DO YOU NEED A DIRT JUMPER? | OVER 40 MOUNTAIN BIKE TIPS | Alex says yes but can he convince Lee?
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- In "Do You Need a Dirt Jumper? | Over 40 Mountain Bike tips" I'm joined again from Lee from LeeLikesBikes.com to wrestle with Dirt Jumpers. We both agree mountain biking is always about the human first and gear second. But the Dirt Jumper unlocked something for me and several of my mountain bike riding buddies. So what makes a dirt jump bike different than a traditional mountain bike and do you need a dirt jumper. We put together a decision tree to help you decide if the dirt jumper is worth making room for.
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Stay shreddy,
Alex
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How bloody refreshing, someone who acknowledges personal opinions and encourages experimentation. P.S-I’m 60 and ride my BMX to work everyday👍
Yes!! As a fellow lover of BMX who is excited to turn 60 next year, it tickles me to know you’re commuting on glorious 20 inch wheels!!! Much love from Colorado.
Try a 22.33 top tube frame on your bmx. 20” wheels on a proper sized frame changed the game for us
I use your mathematical formula every time I'm unsure about buying a new bike and it works every time!
At age 50, I picked up a dirt jumper last fall to start racing bmx with my kid. My skills have improved so much even after being on a mountain bike for 25 years. I’m on it more now than any other bike I own ... skatepark, bmx track, Rays, even just around the neighborhood.
So good.
The mathematical formula (3:46) was super helpful. Way to stay in there with the science for the +40 crowd.
LOL
The moment he mentioned a formula I knew where it was going.
I figured out that formula a year ago and when I communicated it to the girlfriend, it was clear she doesn't trust my science.
Started pumping on track at 67... it's a bit hard at the beginning but really worth the effort. I actually upgraded my ride with my Rail 9.7 and my Trial TRS RR 280. You need to be really convinced of what your doing, a bit of talent and understanding to enjoy. Thank's to you guy's each video is a very good moment in life Cheer's
N+1 now if my wife wasn't better at math than me...
Just ordered my #3 (a DJ). Wife was surprisingly OK with it. At this point I’m really curious how far I can take take this math. Gotta recoup my expenses first tho. 😅
I'm a 61 year old female mountain biker. I tried a DJ at the local park recently and I'm hooked. I want one! haha (big kid at heart). It really helped my riding in the trail berms. Love your channel guys.
I live near a skatepark and pumptrack. This video just reaffirms my decision to get myself a DJ. Ima start airin out at 41 😅🚴♂️🔥
It's 2023....was into the freeride scene 15years ago...had a beefed up hardtail...15 years later ...at 50...bought a Norco ryde 26 (used) for 350 and starting to hit the gnar (jumps) ...my passion for biking is back for good!! Bring on the doubles and sore muscles!!! 😜😜😜
My daily driver is dj and i can go basically anywhere i want. Fast trails in forest no problem. And street is my playground 😊
Do you have a higher seat?
I turn 40 this year and this video is what convinced me to buy a dirt jumper after my city put in a sweet new bike park.
Thank you 🤙🏼
I'm 53 & rode 20" bmx exclusively until a month ago. I can't tell you how good a bit of suspension feels on my DJ bike... I took the Bmx to a pump track yesterday & I felt sketchy. DJ bikes might mean I can jump my bike way past 60 yrs old
Yesbro!!! I have no doubt!!!
I’m in the 50 club too but I got the DJ when they first came out. I’m banging round on it like I think im 10 years old again 😂
@@TheLexiconDevils Just turned 52, stopped racing in my mid 30s, now I can't wait to buy or build a DJ.
The itch has returned.
@@HS-cf4lb how's the itch treating ya? Did you end up getting bitten by the bug again? Haha
@@Later_Nerd Bro!!! , I literally just picked up a Commencal Absolute, it's used , a 2020 but barely used and I phucking love it. It feels like a really big 20" , still feel a little squirly but loving it.
I'm not quite 30 yet. Started riding BMX in middle school and that continued throughout high school and a few years after. Ended up stopping for one reason or another and went years without riding a bike (minus the occasional rental in a new city for example.)
During the pandemic I got into MTB stuff on TH-cam. The thought of being able to take my former love for BMX (I mostly rode street and park) and mix it with hiking/the outdoors. Decided to pick up a bike about a month ago to really get into it. Landed a like new Marin San Quentin for a great price. I knew I needed something more then most beginner bikes could handle, since with my BMX experience, I knew I would be sending jumps on day 1. The San Quentin is awesome. The geometry of it is really aggressive and the 27.5 wheels feel at least somewhat familiar (29 felt massive to me lol.) I've been absolutely loving it and luckily I live in Seattle where trails are a plenty and work about 10 minutes away from Duthie Hill which is basically a purpose built progression training ground. Riding MTB is amazing (and healthy.) Really glad I took the plunge.
I guess this turned into a bit of a rant lol. But the reason I even started writing this was because I love how many older dudes (and dudettes) you see on the trails. People in their 40s and 50s are a plenty and send stuff that terrifies me on the regular. Having an active hobby that you can do at an extremely high level later in life is amazing. Hell I'm sure you could ride XC in your 60s and even 70s if you took great care of your body There's not many outdoor activities that you can do for so long in life. It's just a great, healthy hobby that really everyone should try at least once. Happy to have a new obsession. Less happy that I know it's only a matter of time before I have to set my wallet on fire to pick up a proper full suspension (though for the time being, the "all mountain" hardtail I'm on is a champ. The bug will come for my bank account eventually haha.
Also happy to have yet another MTB TH-cam channel to checkout. Seems like the type of people this hobby attracts (and similarly disc golf) are just good people trying to help each other share the stoke. It's really cool that you made a whole series targeted at the over 40 crowd. The whole idea of safely progressing and being methodical about how you do it in order to be safe about it is brilliant.
It's not just wheel size. The shorter wheelbase on a DJ allows you to fit into tighter transitions and not get bucked.
My youngest has now taken to ramp jumping which made me blow the dust off my old Dyno BMX bike. So much fun to do with the kids in the neighborhood and of course my son. Love the content you're putting up, it's great to hear some old dogs can learn new tricks.
It’s a thing!!!
I am 46, and literally took an old Schwinn Sidewinder and converted it into a Ghetto Jumper to see if I like it! So far, it's awesome!!
Nice!!!
Im 55 put gears on my fully rigid DJ my Urban leg machine.
4:47, best lines ever
Do you need one....nuh. Should you want one YES!! Such a fun flowy bike!! :D
You must've disregarded the n+1 rule...
Now I know why I love so much my P2! Have it for almost 10 years now.
I actually just bought a second-hand DJ last night. This video just makes me feel less guilty towards my wife. Thanks, guys!!!
We are digital guilt remover!!!
Same feelings here. If there was any guilt left it melted during this video.
I'm 27 and came from a bmx background. Bought my first dirt jumper last year (24" wheels on a NS Suburban Park frame,) and now it is basically the only bike I ride. Super versatile, comfortable, and fun.
Jesucristo te ama muchísimo, arrepiéntete de tus pecados y ten perdón de pecados en Su Nombre
You guys are very entertaining and sneaked in a lot of useful information on the side. amazing. thx.
Love your stuff man! So helpful. Thanks!
Caution as you progress into the steeper get higher more hangtime aspect of dirt jumping, it can get FUN
You are such a legend! This helped me to the moon! I love your enthusiasm throughout your channel and your awesome understanding, thanks heaps. I'm gonna go buy a dirt jumper! Yeww
Love this channel! Lots of things about dirt jumps and dirt jumping! Teaching new stuffs, showing of jumps and sharing the joy of DJs! Tks for the video!
You bet! Stay shreddy!!
Nicely done, again, fellas.🙌🏼 Nodding my head heavily at the "you see a DJ on the car, you know they can ride" comment. Nothing may ring more true every time I roll onto VBP. 🎸
Thanks for your formula. It really works! Got a P3 and am loving the DJ life. It's like its own sport!
At 51, I love the "that guy probably shreds" looks I get with the dj on my rack. I don't yet, but I like the vote of confidence. Working on earning the looks every day.
I find myself re-watching these vids a bunch of times as bike season approaches for us snow hermits.
Gotta love the "n+1" need decision formula ....very little to argue about there!
Hahahaha. Yeah. Hard to argue with math. I’m gonna try ski bikes tomorrow! Desperate times...
quickly becoming my favorite channel. 45 and can relate to pretty much everything. Bought one after borrowing my buddies. So fun
Thanks and congrats on the purchase!!
so good thanks so much for your thoughtful and inspiring videos
AWESOMENESS!!! 😎
Thank you for sharing this with us!!!
I’m 50 with an early background in BMX racing (1980’s-90’s), MTB Trail riding (1990’s-present) and (by applying the N+1 formula) I’ve just purchased my first DJ bike thanks to this video.
My Marin San Q, Wethepeople Audio 22” and now my NS Movement 3 have completed my quiver of off-road fun. I can’t wait to learn the intricacies and nuances of the DJ bike. Thanks man 🙏🏼
My wife is gonna be so mad when the box gets here…
Oh my god how much I enjoyed this video and how good it was! Too much info! (In a good way). I’m a MTBer just for the features and jumps. Love the trails though. Wasn’t sure if I need a DJ but now I got a problem in my hands!! Thank you for a good video and always love the edits and the vibe!
Thanks to this video, I got a dirt jumper! Never had one before (never had a BMX either). Finished building it 2 weeks ago. I had no choice but to buy a good steel frame (evil faction 2) and a nice fork (pike DJ), because everything else was sold out. With a good set of wheels, the build easily cost north of $2k. Sooo worth it though!
A few seshs on the DJ and the skills/confidence transferred right over to the local MTB black diamond trail, which I had struggled to ride on my 29” hardtail. The other day, I rode it more than half a minute faster than I ever have, no joke!
I’m so thankful that you started this channel, Alex! I attended Lee’s clinic a couple months ago, who told me about this channel. I’ve watched so many of your videos ever since. Seriously the best bike channel on TH-cam. Hope all is well with you 🙏
Former bmx here, thanks for the insight on this ive been looking at trail bikes for weeks and just couldn’t pull the trigger now i know i need a DJ bike. Ive been looking at canyon, dont have a giant budget.
I recently got myself a Kona Shonky and a MTB Hopper ramp. I absolutely LOVE it! Loving the videos as well!!!
That's a fun combo. Those ramps are rad!!
It’s like having a pair of wings! I’m totally hooked.
N+1 LOL. Love it. I bought one several years ago and has been building rust in my garage for some time. I just recently brought it back lo life and I'm loving every minute I spend at the dirt jumps.
Like a Phoenix from the dust pile!!
🤣 the mathematical equation for needing another bike. I was like "yes, and there's science to prove it"
Guys. I love your videos. Even I won't get a dirt jumper, I still enjoy your videos. A lot of good information and inspiration for 50+ guy with a mind of a teenager.
Hahaha. No pressure. Just sharing a fun option. Keep shredding!
Last year our town built a paved pump track!! My husband just bought me my first dirt jumper for my birthday... so far so good! Already railing the berms, hopefully it will cross over to the trails! Loving hanging with the 10 year olds!
I just bought a commencal RS and I love that bike I have progressed more in the DJ in one month that a whole year in my mountain bike, if you really want to learn and gain tons of confidence DJ is the best 👌👍👍
It is an excellent teacher!
Loved this vid , I am in the middle of building my dirt bike got a octaine one Zurcus frame & a set of manitou circus expert forks 100mm I nearl give up as here in the uk some parts are harde to get I was struggling with single speed wheels to fit my frame & forke believe it or not but have found a shop in Europe (think germany) that stock a decent selection so i am back on track , I am also 43 & used to BMX, I thought I was crazy or having a mid life crisis till i watched your vid & read all the grate comments 👍😊 I really love jumping on my trail bike but there is nothing like riding proper dirt jumps , I cant wait to get this finished & get jumping again. Keep brining the great content .
Great humor! I like the mathematical equation you gave!
Just built up a DK cruiser to race for the first time ever at 46 years, loving the extra twitchiness and feedback on the pump track compared to my Mach 6. Can't wait to hit the BMX track on it to progress my MTB skills. Loving the vids by the way guys, I have 2 of Lee's books and it is great to see the concepts in the books put in motion on video.
Loving this!
There always has to be 1 party pooper who gives a thumbs down. Probably a rollerblader...
I even bought a new helmet for this video. It’s an outrage!! : )
First rule of the internet, never read the comments. LOL
Took the words right out of my mouth!
Must haves.. Ebike, Full Suspension bike and got to have a Dirt Jumper! My DJ is the bike that makes me smile the most!
Most smiles per mile for sure
Great video!
I love that video. I'm 47 and it's actually how I feel! I have a BMX and wish I could ride it the way I want to!
So much good content- so much keepin it reaaaaal
Good stuff as always! I would love to see a video about riding steep technical terrain... body positioning for rolling steep terrain... Thanks for all you're doing! Truly the best instructional videos I have seen...
Thanks!!! When the snow thaws was can do some of this too. Looking forward to it.
Great job guys! I've just built one and it's gonna prepare me for another XC racing season with so much fun. Thanks!
stay away from xc
XC is great when done right!
I love the n+1 formula! Another great video!
I use that one at least once a year. : )
N+1. Made me laugh so hard. I just had stomach surgery yesterday. Hurts so bad to laugh. This will be a laugh I’ll never forget. Looking at my 4 bikes I currently own
If I liked? Oh man! I truly enjoyed this amazing video. Do I need a Giant STP 2021? Mmmm food for thought I must say hahah. Many thanks mate! Stay safe and healthy!
I like your attitude and tone. Channel wouldn't be the same if it was done by someone else. Love it. Thanks for the education.
my back hurts just watching this lol. Great video guys!
Iam buying a DJ. Thats it. So good to see your videos, gives me hope of life.
Heck yes!!! Do it!!
Yes, DJ on the car is the ultimate :) btw, love my Pivot Point, so much fun at pumptrack, dirt jumps and skateparks!
That looks sweet. I had a pivot firebird. Love it but it was stolen. : (
It‘s so funny, the topics you bring up, somehow totally correlating... I bought a Dirtjumper two weeks ago :D
We’re all on the same journey of shred!!
I got a dirt jumper a few months ago after riding big bikes for most my career, and holy crap. Its amazing! I find myself gravitating towards my dirt jumper for every single ride, even in hilly Seattle. But I've learned so much on my dirt jumper and met lots more people as well. So if your on the fence, BUY ONE IF YOU CAN!!!
Love this!! There's something special about a hardtail bike, the feedback & responsiveness become addictive quickly & in my opinion make the big bikes even more fun when you hop back on! Enjoy the ride my friend!
I already have six bikes just for my other one is too much and I need more time to use them, and space to keep it's. I also lack truck to go to the mountains. The place in the video is cool. I wish I had a place like that here. Nice video, thanks for sharing.
I used the formula and determined I needed a DJ! I just bought a LEAF CYCLES RULER PRO DIRT JUMPER .
Yep.... your formula is absolutely correct!!! 3 + 1 equals the number of bikes i need. Now i have 4 with a project bike in mind so that means i need 5!
Yes I do. I need to get back on a bike ASAP and I think a DJ is the coolest thing for a Freeride enthusiast like me who doesn’t have trails and jumps in the woods nearby.
I can easily place a ramp at the top of a descent in urban places and get good air
Haha, nice video, you're very motivating! I just picked up a DJ to get better at jumps after riding an Enduro bike for the last 7 years.
I'm a roadie, and I just got my first Dirt Jumper today. Haro Thread One. Looking forward to getting it out on the jumps...without the lycra of course! 🤣🤣
I've got a dirt jumper and a trail hardtail. Both Steel, both really heavy. The trail hardtail has 120mm travel and my Dirtjumper 100mm. My trail bike has 27.5" wheels and my dirtjumper has 26" wheels. My trail Hardtail isn't even much heavier, but I rode them both in the Bikepark, dirtpark and on a Pumptrack on the same day, and those 27.5" wheels are so much worse on the Pumptrack and so on. So yes, even if you have a short travel Hardtail, you need a Dirtjumper
This is the comment I was looking for! I can safely go out and buy that dj on pink bike, the pull is irresistible now😊
Great stuff Alex! At over 50, I recommend the rare and elusive slopestyle bike for "old man knees". Oh and your math is spot on.
We didn’t crack open the Slopestyle bike can of worms. Not a bad way to go.
I'm 46, park near my house just opened a new paved pump track and I just bought a dirt jumper. Wish me and my old bones luck.
After reading the comments, I'm a young man here. 👍
hahaha, again thanks for your honesty! "Thanks dad!", Love it!
😂 The truth hurts less when I share it!!
@@JoyOfBike so true!
@@JoyOfBike Right!?!?!
Wasn't planning on getting one, but my sister sent me a Dartmoor DJ frame for no reason at all, so I'm building one up now. Stoked since the local trail builders just built a pump track and jumps nearby.
Sounds like the coolest sister on earth!!
Im glad to see guys older than me doing this
Just finished building my DJ- picked up a used Santa Cruz Jackal 2008 for $250 - repainted it... and finished with 2K clear coat... speed tuned hubs on stans, Fox 32 descendent cranks, spank spoon stem,... and only a couple miles from Sapwi park - @56 I'm ready to go!
Recently found your channel. I just moved to Texas and really looking to get back into bmx and mountain biking at 36 years old. This is the perfect channel for me. Anyone around dfw looking to ride?
Get this man a riding wingman!
I have bmx 24" cruiser, best of both worlds :)
I spent a weekend in Miami on a 24. (Sounds like movie) Loved it.
This was great to stumble on! I'm in Colorado and recognized flat irons right away. Good old Valmont! Also I think the Graham in this video is the same Graham I've ridden with. I think I also saw Eric in here! I dig the video and the humor! Thank you ❤ see you guys out there! I still gotta try that new pump track!
Cheers!!
Pump comparison is awesome! 1:50
Wow, throwback at the end of the vid seeing AdamLZ's bmw with his bmx on top!🤘
I'm a roadie and just won a new DJ at my LBS! My son rides BMX and we have a paved pump track near by...oh and Ray's MTB too...I'm pretty pumped to try something new on two wheels. N+1 is real.
40yo just getting back into riding after a 10 year hiatus, i bought a 2nd hand Downhill MTB running oldschool 26inch wheels, a 2014 Kona Entourage. Was a pretty tight budget but the componentry & shocks were mint & then the upgrades i had to make have made a really awesome bike, particularly the Magura MT5 brakes, they are absolutely amazing! So much power & modulation! Anyway I'm looking at getting a DJ bike to improve my skills for DH- pumping, berms & jumping.. This video got me sold! I just wish we had a decent Dirt Jump & pump track! We have lift access trails 10 mins drive from centre of town & lots of free single-track downhill, (Christchurch NZ) but no Dirt Jump facility yet, so I'll mostly be practicing pumping at the skate park, maybe dropping into some bowls (wish me luck) and pumping at a BMX racing track.. We should have a proper DJ park in a couple of years tho, & maybe one day I'll get good enough to hit Gorge Road in Queenstown! That would be a dream!
Awesome video btw, you explained alot and the stoke is real!
Love my DJ. It even lets me ride some street trials.
Did you put on a front brake? I'm doing some (super beginner) trials stuff on my full sus and am thinking about adding a brake to the DJ so I can use it as a trials bike.
@@jonathanstone2754 yes, a reasonably powerful disc. I’ve also messed with the gearing. I have one sprocket at the back, with a trials tensioner (the dropout happened to have a lug for a rear mech) and two chain rings. One chain ring gives me the DJ drive/speed, the other gives me a more trials ratio. Gear change involves “oily hands” (I carry a rag or old glove to avoid touching the chain) to swap from one to the other. I can ride to the trialsy spot using the DJ gearing, so my legs aren’t whirring, then change gear to do some hops & pops. As a compromise it’s working fine. I get to ride up 18” high obstacles but sidehops are a bit sloppy. The front forks are set stiffish. I reckon it’s a good place to start trials. If you can fit a bash ring on the chain set, do it as it can catch a rock. Wear shin pads & helmet too! Have a look for a website “ Trashzen” for brilliant tips on trials riding 😎. Also look for a TH-cam channel for James Barton as he shows a similar conversion to mine in one of his vids
That standard is sick, I got one last year.
Turned 44 a month ago and today I bought my first dirt jumper.. ahh getting old gracefully..lol, f that!!
At 55 years old I got a dirt jumper. Took it to the pump track once and had a ball. I bmxed as a kid and mountain bike now so it was the natural thing to do. Were I am now I is out for the season. Ruptured my left patellar tendon on the mountain bike. I look at the dirt jumper everyday (it's in my living room) and can't wait to get back on it!
Heal fast!!
I had a Free Agent 20 inch solid frame bike- loved it pumping and jumping. But, my wrists were screaming after landing a few times from hard hits! DJ is best for this old man :)
They are so harsh. I swear I can sprain a wrist just pulling my 20 out of my truck!!!
Saw this video... 4 weeks later I now own a dirt jump bike ... n+1 was bang on :)
Yesbro!
@@JoyOfBike I took it to the pump track this week for the first time... was amazing.... the speed you can generate round the berms was so much fun. I'm 44 and my goal is to be able to jump and tail whip... I can see it happening with this bike... love the videos m8..
The formula to get more bikes is fantastic 🤣
Nice Standard. I have 2. One set up as a DJ the other set up as a 26 BMX cruiser
Just got a paved Velosolutions pumptrack at 300m from my house. Came here to confirm bias. First the sub, now going to get a dirt bike.
Show them younglings how dads roll...
Your videos are great! A wonderful mix of fun and informative! Keep it up! Come to NW Arkansas if you get the opportunity. Oh, yes I love my DJ... working on progress as a long time rider but new to jumping is incredible. As a father of 5 my oldest is now starting to boost some serious lines and I want to do my best to safely progress with him. Its inspiring!
It is on the to do list for sure. Have fun with those boys and keep the laughs going.
Great vid and info as always. I got a Commencal Absolut a few weeks ago just for the reasons you gave and also to use when the kids take their BMX's to the skate park.
Yeah we didn't touch on how fun they can be in the park. That was a miss.
@@JoyOfBike Or an opportunity for a follow up video!
You guys are killing it!!! Love these videos!!! Okay looking at DJ’s now. There is a pump track close to me. Rode it with my suspension locked out. does that count? I think I know the answer. Ha!
Hey Mark! It all counts.
It does cause any bike and any terrain is better than not riding. But the DJ is the ultimate pump track machine.
This video was hilarious. 😂
Also, Commencal owes you a commission cheque. Just bought a DJ’er.
YES!!! Now I need another bike!
The N+1 got me lol you got a subscriber
Made my day!
YES!
So good video! 👊🏼
Thanks!!