2010 Volkswagen Tiguan 2.0T- MIL/EPC P1545 Throttle Valve Controller Malf. (no throttle response)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ส.ค. 2024
- working on a 2010 vw tiguan with a 2.0t engine, customer complaint is check engine light and epc light, veh will stall and there is no throttle response when hitting the pedal. there is 1 trouble code stored it is a p1545 throttle valve controller malfunction. I hope you guys enjoy this video and thanks for watching
You reminded me of a guy that did all kinds of hight tech testings and finally he notice there was mouse nest blocking the air flow.
Some time we need to go to the basics.
Tom great diagnosis scanner Danner taught you well
OMG ! Just understanding the diagnostics is like a Masters Engineering degree, before you even get started on any parts replacement/repair. Respect Bro! 👍
Waaaaaay back when... I once forgot about a rag in the intake (used it to keep dirt from getting in). Car would idle, but didn't have power. This was on an old CIS car that has the 2 throttle plates (primary & secondary). No way that the rag could get sucked past either... so I was a bit lucky. Took me a bit of time to find the issue. =)
simple mistakes happen...to everyone. at least you found it, those have only a closed throttle switch not an actual throttle position sensor right?
This one just had a WOT switch... CIS-Lambda. In my case, I knew that the car had no issues when It came into the shop, so I simply had to retrace my steps (which still took a while, apprentice at the time, so it was ok). Getting a car like this come into the shop as a no-start... I would never have thought of checking for throttle obstruction, until... like you, determined that it is throttle related. Great videos you've been putting up!
Just started watching you after scannerdanners shout out ,you've got some great videos well done !!great to see ,I look forward to watching more thanks ChrisG
Fantastic job tom,well done.
Thats bonkers
Good case study you always find the problem
Really enjoy your vids,cannot comment for my wife she thinks I'm sad!!! Keep them coming ..
Well, the upside is that the TB has been wiped clean! lol Very informative Tom. Thanks!
ha yes it was
Unbelievable! Who were the technicians, the Marx Brothers? Thanks for sharing both the diagnostic process and the comedy revue.
Sick video buddy :) thanks for the info on the channels :)
I'm like you Tom; never in my wildest dreams would I have thought of seeing that. Great find and nice work with the diagnostics and getting her fixed :)
unexpected find, I was ready to call it for a throttle body, if I didn't pull the charge tube the customer is going to buy a TB that isn't needed
Nice job Tom. Just when you think you have seen everything something else comes a long.
lol yeah this field is an ongoing mystery
I had a Buick 3.8 one time that wouldn't accelerate. The air filter housing was full of dry dog food under the filter..(i guess rodents had put it there). The car had already been to two other shops. Since it appeared to have a new filter in it nobody thought to look underneath it.
VW throttle housing was like a prize fighter, it would take dive. I worked at the dealership you don't know how many we replace. Also how many intake manifolds we replaced.
Thanks man good job Greetings from mexico
excellent diag Tommy thanks
My friend ,
What's the best affordable scan tools that you would reccomend ? And great videos straight to the point and no guessing . And an honest man .most shops out there , here or where ever you may be , would have sold the customer the part with out saying anything.
Thanks Joe. I really appreciate your comments. Scan tool costs are all over the board. Depends on your budget. I would suggest a snap on verus based on the scope and scantool built into one unit. The autel also is a good scantool. It has a lot of functionality on a lot of makes and models. But it all depends on your budget
No need for expert mode when using Ross-tech just sayin😉. Nice video as always thanks for sharing
Oh and that must be a Bounty cause Viva would've shredded for sure
definitely bounty, the quilted quicker picker upper
no need for vcds with expert mode :P
Great vid , but just wondering , why you use safety goggles when using scope
Crank those are actually fault finding spectacles and double as safety goggles. They enable him to find the problem and keep his peepers where they belong.
Great video my friend!
Merry Christmas and happy New Year May the Lord bless you all with happiness and joy
Merry Christmas!!!!
Would it not have been quicker and easier to take the unit off first and check the functioning after cleaning it?
Fantastic job tom
exelente amigo.God bless you
Good job
Wow your thought process and how u find the problem great video thanks boss 🫡
Pls how can I get your kinda scanner
It seems you are an expert. can you please advise? I have a Passat 2 L Diesel 2013, while downhill with engine break engine fault signal came on. mechanic read error codes: P219600, O2 sensor (bank 1, sensor 1), System too rich, status [237] and P012100, Throttle-valve position sensor, signal improbable, status [096].
he then cleared and let me go to see if it comes back. It did about 500 miles later downhill tempomat / cruise control on. some suggest it is the throttle valve started dying and needs to be replaced. car runs nicely smoothly same powerful as before. What do you think what should I do. Throttle house £ 250-350, position sensor (good for a lot of makes) £20, throttle repair kit ~£50, The car also has got a major service a month before. can it be a dirt from the filter/engine. Would a valve cleaning solve the issue?
Thank you for any advice.
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Is the block measure mode, where you got four values at a time, a standard for VW cars? I have a 2000 Skoda (VW took over this brand back then, so basically it's just a VW with Skoda tag on it) with EODB implemented, but it's not OBDII compatible (no check engine light at all and it will not work in OBDII mode with any scanner). I use a VAG-COM program on my laptop and a VAG KKL cable to connect to it. I noticed I can't read single PIDs, the only way is the "block measure" mode when it gives me four at a time.
Good job man but why did you not first try to erase the fault code and then do a throttle body basic in basic in 04 setting Chanel 060 the engine ECM would of try to command the throttle body but I don't know if it would've work with the throttle plate not in a rest position like it was with the paper in there.
tried off camera, the fault would not clear and basis settings said error
V10PDTDI How would you erase the fault with out a scan tool
Would Ross Tecks system be of more use to you working on audi/vw engines just wondering, like the videos good work.
I honestly don't think so, but some people may have their own opinions
nice find my friend
thanks Chad
You had a bad connection on the control line as that was way too noisy. But I've never seen that before maybe someone left it in there after cleaning
I really like the section "guided componentes test" , what type of diagnoatic Are you using ?
How many miles on it? I suspect a possible engine change with a used engine from a wrecking yard. They often put paper towels in the throttle bodies to prevent dust/dirt from getting in when they sit in the warehouse.
Edit: I see at the end you found it came from a body shop. That's even less excusable, in my opinion. I had an 07 Honda Odyssey that came to me with a check engine light. Scan showed bank 1 and 2 upstream LAF (O2) sensor heater circuit codes and some other unrelated circuit code. The owner told me the MIL had been on for about 15K miles after it had been in an accident. They took it back to the body shop shortly after it was repaired and the body shop just told them it was "some emissions thing." They even had a timing belt done by another shop later. Nobody fixed it. When it came to me I scanned it and suspected a blown fuse right away, most likely caused by a short across the heater circuit on the front LAF sensor during the accident. Replaced a 30A radiator fan fuse and the LAF fuse under the dash, cleared the codes and out the door with a happy customer who thinks I'm better than most shops (I'm just a DIY'er who does some work on the side for others.) Body shops seem to be notoriously bad. Fortunately, the non-functioning LAF's didn't take out the converters.
timing belt suggested for an o2 heater fault, crazy. yeah sometimes bodyshops are good for these types of things
Seemed like the signals before and after the paper towel where very close is there any way it is measuring current ?
What if it’s running like this but chugging and has some what of a rpm change when you push on the gas?
lol what the hell . better check for the banana in tail pipe
Hi Tommy, by any chance, do you have a know good form for a 2008 passat 2.0t cam/crank?
I will check. Tsi or fsi?
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Il will check tomorrow and get back to you
I found one you can use for reference. But can't post it on here
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7.40-8 min you talk about angel sensor 1 and 2 my car has half throttle response stops at 3k rpm i need to know how to go about it same set up as the suv in the video same engine its a 2009 vw passat cc 2.0t 6 speed manual i put a ebay throttle body on it and 5 days later epc light comes on and im only getting 3k of rpms and im getting codes p2106 p2101 please help me if you get a chance
HAHA you never know what you'll find. They probably had the duct off and put a paper towel in it to keep out debris. Nice diagnosis & fix Tom...removed paper towel :D
cleaned throttle body with paper towel that was jamming the throttle body, lol
Do you have any videos of the throttle body being cleaned even if you don't remove it?
Its like they had the intercooler hose disconnected and block it for any dirt but forgot to take it out
I have 2014 jetta I have intermittent no start cranks no start.after scanning got p1545 code.
now that you took out the paper towel , the paper towel sensor will malfunction !
excellent. Diagnostic. friend. my. respect. for yuo. saludes. de. mi parte. noelmatute
thanks!
Thanks for uploading the video. Any thoughts on how to replace the fuel pump control module? The check engine light just came on in my VW Tiguan 2011 with an error code of P025C - "Fuel Pump Module Control, Signal Too Low". I'm hoping that replacing the fuel pump module control will take care of the problem. Any advice is greatly appreciated!
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I wonder that the throttle didn't open full at ign on?!
With the no throttle response in drive, does the traction squiggly lines light come on the dash?
No only the epc light and check engine light
Can we measre the current flow of the motor to know if it is motor or tps?
Nice Tommy !
good morning man I need your help from where you order yours fuel pressure gauge please if you can give me the part number
Forgot to say I'm watching in the uk ! And ask ..do you know if the block numbers are the same using vcds?
The U.K. Nice! Thanks for watching. The block values should be the same
Very good video brother. I am actually doing one as we speak on a 09 volkswagen eos. Same set up. I did the same thing with the scanner and my app sensors are good with one at 14 and other at 7 and pedal to the floor it's 88 and 44. App are good but the throttle sensors one is 84 and the other is at 6 roughly 7 but very unstable. And when pressed the sensor 1 goes to 99 and the second drops to 12. Clearly a fault as these should hit 100% when both are added. I don't have that 6 pin connector set . Can i use my aeswave connectors and disconnect the connector to the throttle body and do my checks like that or do I really need it to be connected to the throttle body? If so can I just gently pierce the wire and then put electrical liquid tape. Thank u brother. By the way man u really know ur stuff on these euro cars. But if the throttle body needs to be replaced and I don't find paper jammed up in there I know this has to be relearned with the vcds because I checked the verus and it doesn't have that function in it
The throttle sensors should add up to be roughly 100. The app sensors on should read half of the other. Sounds like you have that. When doing these checks the throttle needs to be plugged in. And you can backprobe its just difficult without that harness I used. You can adapt the throttle with the verus. Use expert mode and go into basic settings channel 60
Vc consegue me ajudar? Estou com Passat tsi 2008 , não acelera já conferi todos os chicotes e já fiz testes no pedal acelerador e corpo de borboletas , e faco reset nós parâmetro ,mas mesmo assim ficam gravados os cód P2122, P0699, P0123,P0222,P1579 e U0104 que possa ser ? Obrigado
could you plz post a video on steering assist control module
Mice building in one video then toilet roll in the next!what's going on!!lol. Thanks again for sharing your skills,one question where do you get to know all the measuring block numbers?
you never know what you will find!! I have been at the dealer for 6 years or so, after a while you just know them, I think ross tech has a good number of them listed on their website
awesome, some hacker was in there.
Seriously? Mastertech? Right area but not knowing exactly what should happen at ignition on. Checking signals and supply to throttle should take 5 minutes max. Never even mentioned possibility of bad plug between throttle and ECU or weak power to motor.
v.nice video
you always look stoned at the end of the vids.... good video tommy
haha, no just tired from long days, thanks Phil
WOW WOW WOW!!! THIS IS INCREDIBLE!!! Ignorance is bliss for some so called " technicians ". If that was my car I'd definitely go back to " shake that a-hole's hand "!
just an overlooked simple mistake, luckily it didn't get sucked in, that would have been bad
VERY simple to follow vid...just don't hit the wrong button and bring the international space station back to earth unexpectedly....notify NASA ASAP if you do.
hi frd im replace steering for skoda actavia 1.9 aftar that steering light on...when i switch of key ig steering move self 00573 its fault code thanks
Steering angle sensor fault?
ok thanks so much
I'm asking is that the fault?
yes tahnks 100
Unbelievable root cause 😂, wow
probably find a tampon in the next one lol
Wow
papertowel setup =p
I suggest you get trained to know how VW system works.
How does it work?
I know exactly what you mean Zarik.
looked kinda staged lol good Lil video and good find
lol definitely not staged.. imagine if it got sucked in
Positive Lead Diagnostics this was def not staged. I worked for a Porsche dealer for 10 years and seen this before. Bodyshops do amazing stuff.