I am an older swimmer (73). I do lap swim, also some open water swimming. I am not going for speed, but better efficiency, and a freestyle stroke that is more gentle on old shoulder joints (like lots of older swimmers, I have some arthritis in my shoulders). Would you consider doing a video for us oldsters who swim more for the joy of swimming, but are looking for sustainability vs. speed? Many thanks. Enjoy your videos immensely!!
Hi Judy, Thank you for reaching out! I’m glad you’re enjoying the videos. Your focus on improving efficiency and gentleness in your freestyle stroke aligns perfectly with my coaching philosophy. My entire coaching approach is centered around swimming from your core and stabilizing from your center. This technique helps keep your shoulders light, fluid, and healthy. I’ve experienced an overuse shoulder injury myself from my competitive days, which was partly due to poor technique and the mindset of powering through the water. This has deeply influenced my coaching philosophy to ensure that others don’t face similar issues. The demo you see is an example of how keeping the shoulders light and relaxed can improve efficiency and comfort. All of this is detailed in my content and program. Additionally, I have an older video on the scapular plane that can also benefit your swimming. th-cam.com/video/aETk2PJ-l1s/w-d-xo.html While swimming is indeed low impact, improper movements can still aggravate pre-existing shoulder issues. My goal is to guide you through techniques that help you swim comfortably and sustainably for as long as you desire. I appreciate your feedback and will certainly consider creating content specifically for swimmers who prioritize joy and sustainability over speed. Thanks again for your support and for sharing your swimming journey! Best regards, Coach Mandy
. @SWIMVICE Great advice, and encouragement. Will definitely check out the other video you referenced. I so appreciate the time you took to respond. I'm guilty of "powering through", especially when younger, and have been working with a trainer to strengthen my core, and trying to practice better habits when in the water. Thank you again!
Hi Mandy, I am Slow in Swimming - avg. 2:20/100m when swimming 1-2 km total. I would like to improve my time to under 2 min per 100m when swimming 2000m in a row. How often per week would You recommend to go swimming in Order to See an improvement? And After how many weeks an improvement is visible?
Hi 65 yr old male just getting back into the pool after years off i swam in highschool swam freestyle and backstroke. My 1st day in today figuring I'll start slow only going 500 yards and working up to a mile. I swam my 500 in 10 minutes I was a bit winded but it felt great I feel my form is nice and I don't kick much. I'm a new subscriber Thanks Jesse
Interesting. Could you tell me how to calculate stroke lenght? Why your stroke length is 1.29 yards? the pool is 25 m. and your stroke per length is 15.5, so it should be 25/15.5, or 1.6129. is that right?
I find if I just swim smooth and easy I'll go a bit faster, this was shocking to me. Almost no kick and a really smooth arm entry and I'm moving fairly fast. I'm swimming 1:50 without working too hard.
Thank you for sharing the tips. What about breathing? I usually do 1 breath every 2 stokes. I found that even I try to slow down, I still get that chest pain, your body signal telling you to breath. I can't do laps because of this, as I would be too out of breath, some how. I've been swimming for 3months now. Do I need to practice holding my breath to build endurance with the lungs?
You look so relaxed and smooth, plus you're getting good distance per strokes. When you set up the catch, are you pulling forcefully or just at half force?
When I pull it's light until the pull is like halfway down the bodyline... Thats were it's like a push off into a high elbow back to streamline, repeat on the opposite arm.
What should my breathing pattern be? I am currently breathing every 2 strokes. I do go to the other side every 8 or 10 strokes but I have to breath every two or I feel like I get exhausted. What should be my breathing cadence ?
Your pace is equivalent of 1:18-:1:20 in 100mts, that is quite fast for a very advanced swimmer too and even sprinting with intervals of 20 or 30 secs. Keeping that speed is for an elite swimmer. Amazing!
Yes, thank you! 🙏🏼 I’m grateful that my job allows me to consistently study the craft, which has helped tremendously in my own practice. I swam club year-round starting at 9 years old. However, even when I was burnt out around 17, I swam slower than I do now. My pace before, as a competitive swimmer, was 1:25 for distance, and I dealt with pain in my right shoulder and tendinitis in my right elbow. I can’t swim the way I used to, even if I tried. Thanks to dedicating my education to kinesiology, swim technique, and coaching over the years, I’ve been able to rebuild my stroke from the ground up-injury-free, faster, and, most importantly, more efficiently! This, compounded with consistent weight training five days a week, has made me stronger. Thank you for watching and for your feedback! Best, Coach Mandy
@@SWIMVICE Thank you for your story, it is very inspiring and interesting. I'm almost 62, my best pace in 500mts is about 1:35 per 100 mts when I'm very very very inspired, still not in the pace of an elite swimmer at my age. I try to improve my swimming strength and I'm swimming about 25km a week. I think I have to shorten my training and be focused more on technique, and especially kicking. I think I'm stressing my body too much and even though I feel very strong, sometimes I'm tired, and I believe that if I do less I can improve my speed. My body tells me sometimes to do less.
@@JorgeRzezak Yes, I completely agree-you’re on the right path. Rest is essential. While many believe that more volume in swimming leads to better results, the truth is that focusing on form, compartmentalizing your training, and prioritizing recovery will yield greater benefits. Overtraining is indeed common in swimming, so proper rest is key. ✅
@@JorgeRzezak Hey! I never thought my training would go this way, but last year I got into training by heart rate. Now, I do an hour straight in Zone 2 after warmup on M-T-W. Then, I take Thursday off. Friday, I do a Zone 5 session followed by the gym. Saturday and Sunday are off. It’s working pretty good. I never thought!
@@KansaiBoxer Hey too!, my English is not my mother tongue, and I do not know some terms you use. What is M-T-W? And regarding the zones, could be what the Garmin shows in the heart rate? BTW thanks for your feedback amigo!
If you’re training for open water or a triathlon, I wouldn’t recommend it, as it can skew your numbers. I demonstrated an open turn after the flip turn to eliminate any biased speeds. Doing an open turn keeps the swim more realistic since I start my stroke right at the flags for accurate calculations. Whether or not you do a long underwater depends on your goals for distance sets. If you only swim or compete in pool events, then yes, absolutely, it’s important. But if you’re training for open water or triathlons with no walls, then no, you don’t need to. It’s really a matter of preference-as long as you know your exact distance per length, it doesn’t matter. -Coach Mandy
that first scene was 1:12 for 100 yards? damn thats fast and i swear, thats what i see myself when swimming. but im far fom that. funnily i dont do any of these major mistakes. hopefully i can soon find out what my mistakes are. when i look at my swim times, sometimes i can average 1:40 for 100m but mostly its around 2:00. only training for a couple weeks tho, its still early.
Thank you for your video, I have been getting conflicting advice on high and low cadence. I tend you agree with you. Do you use this lower cadence strategy in open water too?
I have a sweet spot tempo that I use for distance-it’s not too slow or too fast for my skill level. This pace allows me to sustain my swim over long periods without getting winded or breaking down. It’s also dependent on height, as my tempo is different from someone who is taller or shorter. All of this is outlined in my speed program. - Coach Mandy
For long distance sustainability work on better balance, being more relaxed in your body and focus on power generation from the core over arm pull and kick.
I would imagine that takes a huge amount of core strength, flexibility and balance to hold that position and pace? I used to swim 1:50 by pulling very hard and letting my legs sink. However, I can now swim 1:50 by gently pulling through the water but focussing more in engaging my core and trying to balance better. I am also stronger and more flexible after 2 years of Power Yoga. However, I find it very hard to hold the position.
I use height because, for most people, it’s roughly equivalent to their wingspan, making the margin of error low. However, you can definitely measure your wingspan if you prefer.
This pool is in yards, but you can apply the same approach to a long course meter pool, which I’ve demonstrated before, where it’s 50 meters per length with only one 5-meter push-off. The equivalent pace is 1:18-1:19 per 100m.
Nice form! I think this has to be 25yards pool so this is pace for 77,25meters and it looks like that. 1.12 /100m would be very competitive pace for that.
No worries all good in video it looks nowhere near that I'm not saying it isn't but I agree with the message of the video either way...I swim faster when relaxed and loose
I completely understand how it can look that way. However, I time these videos so viewers can clearly see how long it actually takes. My body and movements are relaxed, which might make it seem like I’m swimming slower, but in reality, I’m moving at a solid pace. This video is particularly important because it addresses the misconception that powering through the water is the only path to speed. In reality, you can move at a very fast pace while minimizing movement. I appreciate the dialogue and thank you for the support! -Coach Mandy
When i was competing with the swimmer in the next lane (she didn’t know i was pacing her), sometimes i felt tense from wanting to go faster. I had to remind myself that swimming is more efficient when done slower in more measured pace. I still rest a bit after each lap but i managed to cut down 15 minutes swimming the same distance (1600 meters) from each lap session. It meant I swam faster (more efficient) and took shorter rest break.
Well to be fair you put an extremely horrendous comparison for a high stroke rate. 1 thing in common that all top 3 places in OWS in most categories have is high stroke rate.. I think the key point here is to find your perfect stroke rate and build it upwards. Unless you are swimming for hobby and don’t care going first place or winning. I am a master swimmer and the top in my country in my category all have stroke rate of around 75 per minute and a pace of 1:10-1:15. I am a master D btw. There are even some studies that confirm that too much glide and slower stroke rate is more energy inefficient that a faster stroke rate considering that with a higher stroke rate comes more oxigen. Now if this video is just for beginners and hobbyist then yeah swim as comfortable as you can and finish your races but to win you need a decent stroke rate.
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I am an older swimmer (73). I do lap swim, also some open water swimming. I am not going for speed, but better efficiency, and a freestyle stroke that is more gentle on old shoulder joints (like lots of older swimmers, I have some arthritis in my shoulders). Would you consider doing a video for us oldsters who swim more for the joy of swimming, but are looking for sustainability vs. speed? Many thanks. Enjoy your videos immensely!!
Hi Judy,
Thank you for reaching out! I’m glad you’re enjoying the videos. Your focus on improving efficiency and gentleness in your freestyle stroke aligns perfectly with my coaching philosophy.
My entire coaching approach is centered around swimming from your core and stabilizing from your center. This technique helps keep your shoulders light, fluid, and healthy. I’ve experienced an overuse shoulder injury myself from my competitive days, which was partly due to poor technique and the mindset of powering through the water. This has deeply influenced my coaching philosophy to ensure that others don’t face similar issues.
The demo you see is an example of how keeping the shoulders light and relaxed can improve efficiency and comfort. All of this is detailed in my content and program. Additionally, I have an older video on the scapular plane that can also benefit your swimming. th-cam.com/video/aETk2PJ-l1s/w-d-xo.html
While swimming is indeed low impact, improper movements can still aggravate pre-existing shoulder issues. My goal is to guide you through techniques that help you swim comfortably and sustainably for as long as you desire.
I appreciate your feedback and will certainly consider creating content specifically for swimmers who prioritize joy and sustainability over speed.
Thanks again for your support and for sharing your swimming journey!
Best regards,
Coach Mandy
. @SWIMVICE
Great advice, and encouragement. Will definitely check out the other video you referenced. I so appreciate the time you took to respond. I'm guilty of "powering through", especially when younger, and have been working with a trainer to strengthen my core, and trying to practice better habits when in the water. Thank you again!
80 yards or 100 ?
Hi Mandy, I am Slow in Swimming - avg. 2:20/100m when swimming 1-2 km total. I would like to improve my time to under 2 min per 100m when swimming 2000m in a row. How often per week would You recommend to go swimming in Order to See an improvement? And After how many weeks an improvement is visible?
Greatly appreciate this informative video. I’m 79. It’s a big help.
Thank you for this! Loved the explanation and the angled shots of the swim, It made me see the possible things that I might be doing wrong!
Hi
65 yr old male just getting back into the pool after years off i swam in highschool swam freestyle and backstroke. My 1st day in today figuring I'll start slow only going 500 yards and working up to a mile. I swam my 500 in 10 minutes I was a bit winded but it felt great I feel my form is nice and I don't kick much. I'm a new subscriber
Thanks
Jesse
Thank you for this! Really helpful especially the side angle shots.
You have the smoothest, most effortless (looking) mechanics. Super jelly over here
Interesting. Could you tell me how to calculate stroke lenght? Why your stroke length is 1.29 yards? the pool is 25 m. and your stroke per length is 15.5, so it should be 25/15.5, or 1.6129. is that right?
I find if I just swim smooth and easy I'll go a bit faster, this was shocking to me. Almost no kick and a really smooth arm entry and I'm moving fairly fast. I'm swimming 1:50 without working too hard.
Thank you for sharing the tips. What about breathing? I usually do 1 breath every 2 stokes. I found that even I try to slow down, I still get that chest pain, your body signal telling you to breath. I can't do laps because of this, as I would be too out of breath, some how. I've been swimming for 3months now. Do I need to practice holding my breath to build endurance with the lungs?
Great video! Thankyou..esp the side VIDEO shots...really helps me see that I'm DRAGGING my legs like there's no tomorrow.
Absolutely, body alignment is key above all else!
Amaizing techniques. thnk you so much. 🙏🙏
You look so relaxed and smooth, plus you're getting good distance per strokes. When you set up the catch, are you pulling forcefully or just at half force?
When I pull it's light until the pull is like halfway down the bodyline... Thats were it's like a push off into a high elbow back to streamline, repeat on the opposite arm.
Really good swimming, just I need turns at wall also. Turning at wall is taking more energy as well
most pools are either 25m or 50m and having to convert to mile, it's rather confusing. Having said that, thank you! your swimming is amazing!
What should my breathing pattern be? I am currently breathing every 2 strokes. I do go to the other side every 8 or 10 strokes but I have to breath every two or I feel like I get exhausted. What should be my breathing cadence ?
2 beat kick every two strokes breathing on same side every time
Your pace is equivalent of 1:18-:1:20 in 100mts, that is quite fast for a very advanced swimmer too and even sprinting with intervals of 20 or 30 secs. Keeping that speed is for an elite swimmer. Amazing!
Yes, thank you! 🙏🏼 I’m grateful that my job allows me to consistently study the craft, which has helped tremendously in my own practice. I swam club year-round starting at 9 years old. However, even when I was burnt out around 17, I swam slower than I do now. My pace before, as a competitive swimmer, was 1:25 for distance, and I dealt with pain in my right shoulder and tendinitis in my right elbow. I can’t swim the way I used to, even if I tried. Thanks to dedicating my education to kinesiology, swim technique, and coaching over the years, I’ve been able to rebuild my stroke from the ground up-injury-free, faster, and, most importantly, more efficiently! This, compounded with consistent weight training five days a week, has made me stronger.
Thank you for watching and for your feedback! Best, Coach Mandy
@@SWIMVICE Thank you for your story, it is very inspiring and interesting.
I'm almost 62, my best pace in 500mts is about 1:35 per 100 mts when I'm very very very inspired, still not in the
pace of an elite swimmer at my age. I try to improve my swimming strength and I'm swimming about 25km a week. I think I have to shorten my training and be focused more on technique, and especially kicking. I think I'm stressing my body too much and even though I feel very strong, sometimes I'm tired, and I believe that if I do less I can improve my speed. My body tells me sometimes to do less.
@@JorgeRzezak Yes, I completely agree-you’re on the right path. Rest is essential. While many believe that more volume in swimming leads to better results, the truth is that focusing on form, compartmentalizing your training, and prioritizing recovery will yield greater benefits. Overtraining is indeed common in swimming, so proper rest is key. ✅
@@JorgeRzezak Hey! I never thought my training would go this way, but last year I got into training by heart rate. Now, I do an hour straight in Zone 2 after warmup on M-T-W. Then, I take Thursday off. Friday, I do a Zone 5 session followed by the gym. Saturday and Sunday are off. It’s working pretty good. I never thought!
@@KansaiBoxer Hey too!, my English is not my mother tongue, and I do not know some terms you use. What is M-T-W?
And regarding the zones, could be what the Garmin shows in the heart rate?
BTW thanks for your feedback amigo!
Should i do flip turns on my distance sets? Thanks for your great videos.
If you’re training for open water or a triathlon, I wouldn’t recommend it, as it can skew your numbers. I demonstrated an open turn after the flip turn to eliminate any biased speeds. Doing an open turn keeps the swim more realistic since I start my stroke right at the flags for accurate calculations. Whether or not you do a long underwater depends on your goals for distance sets. If you only swim or compete in pool events, then yes, absolutely, it’s important. But if you’re training for open water or triathlons with no walls, then no, you don’t need to. It’s really a matter of preference-as long as you know your exact distance per length, it doesn’t matter. -Coach Mandy
@@SWIMVICEthanks!
that first scene was 1:12 for 100 yards? damn thats fast and i swear, thats what i see myself when swimming. but im far fom that. funnily i dont do any of these major mistakes. hopefully i can soon find out what my mistakes are. when i look at my swim times, sometimes i can average 1:40 for 100m but mostly its around 2:00. only training for a couple weeks tho, its still early.
I’m 65 and my go to stroke for swimming on my belly is the head above water breast stroke, it’s a super slow stroke
Thank you for your video, I have been getting conflicting advice on high and low cadence. I tend you agree with you. Do you use this lower cadence strategy in open water too?
I have a sweet spot tempo that I use for distance-it’s not too slow or too fast for my skill level. This pace allows me to sustain my swim over long periods without getting winded or breaking down. It’s also dependent on height, as my tempo is different from someone who is taller or shorter. All of this is outlined in my speed program.
- Coach Mandy
Thanks Mandy, I’m going to stick with my lower cadence & try & keep reducing my stroke rate per distance
Solid plan! 😎👍🏼
For long distance sustainability work on better balance, being more relaxed in your body and focus on power generation from the core over arm pull and kick.
That makes sense. It's just like running, you have to run slow to get faster.
I would imagine that takes a huge amount of core strength, flexibility and balance to hold that position and pace?
I used to swim 1:50 by pulling very hard and letting my legs sink.
However, I can now swim 1:50 by gently pulling through the water but focussing more in engaging my core and trying to balance better. I am also stronger and more flexible after 2 years of Power Yoga.
However, I find it very hard to hold the position.
Yes doesn’t mention how you must learn to engage the core to get the legs up which takes ages to learn.
thx for this!
Thanks for the tip
Should that chart include your wingspan, not height?
I use height because, for most people, it’s roughly equivalent to their wingspan, making the margin of error low. However, you can definitely measure your wingspan if you prefer.
Basically, look at Katie Ledecky's slow motion underwater videos. Don't forget the early vertical forearm. It all works.
I need this desperately
Is the pool yards or meters?
This pool is in yards, but you can apply the same approach to a long course meter pool, which I’ve demonstrated before, where it’s 50 meters per length with only one 5-meter push-off. The equivalent pace is 1:18-1:19 per 100m.
Yds vs Meters🤯 pools in UK are meters
So your 1m:12 pace for 100yds is about 1m:18 pace for 100mtrs
Thanks for video
Wow one min for 100 m . What a dream for me .
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Mam how is your health
Great!
Nice form! I think this has to be 25yards pool so this is pace for 77,25meters and it looks like that. 1.12 /100m would be very competitive pace for that.
Correct it’s 25 yards. This is my pace for distance not sprint 👍🏼
Very confusing I was like no way your swimmimb 1.12 per 100m
...so what is your 100m pace about 1.35 ?
@paulc9848 No, my 100m time would be around 1:18-1:19 because I swim with a stroke count of 37-38 SPL factoring a 5m push off.
No worries all good in video it looks nowhere near that I'm not saying it isn't but I agree with the message of the video either way...I swim faster when relaxed and loose
I completely understand how it can look that way. However, I time these videos so viewers can clearly see how long it actually takes. My body and movements are relaxed, which might make it seem like I’m swimming slower, but in reality, I’m moving at a solid pace. This video is particularly important because it addresses the misconception that powering through the water is the only path to speed. In reality, you can move at a very fast pace while minimizing movement. I appreciate the dialogue and thank you for the support! -Coach Mandy
You said 20 yards
The theory is very simple..
My shoulders are shot from swimming
When i was competing with the swimmer in the next lane (she didn’t know i was pacing her), sometimes i felt tense from wanting to go faster. I had to remind myself that swimming is more efficient when done slower in more measured pace. I still rest a bit after each lap but i managed to cut down 15 minutes swimming the same distance (1600 meters) from each lap session. It meant I swam faster (more efficient) and took shorter rest break.
Yes, a slower tempo doesn’t mean swimming slowly-it simply means being more efficient at your current skill level. Well done!
If you use a clip on mic, the audio will be better
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Didn’t explain much at all.
Is it just me or does this not live up to its title?
Well to be fair you put an extremely horrendous comparison for a high stroke rate. 1 thing in common that all top 3 places in OWS in most categories have is high stroke rate.. I think the key point here is to find your perfect stroke rate and build it upwards. Unless you are swimming for hobby and don’t care going first place or winning. I am a master swimmer and the top in my country in my category all have stroke rate of around 75 per minute and a pace of 1:10-1:15. I am a master D btw. There are even some studies that confirm that too much glide and slower stroke rate is more energy inefficient that a faster stroke rate considering that with a higher stroke rate comes more oxigen. Now if this video is just for beginners and hobbyist then yeah swim as comfortable as you can and finish your races but to win you need a decent stroke rate.
Also 64 strokes per minute is by no means a slow stroke rate most masters swimmers won’t even be able to hold or sustain 55 for a 3k or 5k swim.
the more I try to swim faster, the slower I got
This is what’s happening 😬👀☝🏽