In my opinion, Grovyle is the only middle evolution that genuinely looks better than its final evolution, which is saying something because Sceptile still looks sick. Glad to see it was your #1 as well
I actually think Dewott is one of the best middle stage starters. And glad to see Johto starters getting some love. Always thought Quilava was so clean lol
Ok I've gotta pipe up a bit for my boy Dewott cause this line is getting a lot of shade so far! Dewott really starts to bring in the samurai aesthetic with the top knot, the whiskers, and the shell blades strapped to the hips ready to go full Vergil JUDGEMENT CUT on anyone who tries to jump him! Of course all in good fun, love the videos and excited for the final stage rankings!
I love this editing plus the script, it's truly incredible. BUT if anyone else tells me that Drizzile is a better mid-evolution than Dewott we about to throw hands
I think Monferno deserves more credit for looking like a natural evolution to Chimchar and pre evolution to Infernape whilst having an awesome design of its own
@@yaboyj3428 I agree, I think it’s a crime that Drizzile and Ivysaur are above Monferno and its line. Monferno is a great upgrade from Chimchar, and I’m a Grotle fan
@@luckymango1963 thank u and the turtwig Evolution line is slept on too turtwing was actual the first one I had before I traded it 😭but definitely a good line up tho toterra definitely looks like a badass
Ivysaur to me is the clear number one. Nobody rates it yet it is the perfect middle evolution between bulbasaur and venusaur, which is what the middle forms were supposed to be. Also, even in a vaccuum, it has a clean ass design. Edit: side note I love how on bulbasaur the back flower is just a bulb, then on ivysaur the bulb opens to reveal the closed flower, and then on venusaur the flower finally blooms into a large beautiful plant. Really exemplifies the excellent job gamefreak did with transitioning one member of the line to the next.
I think servine also works well between snivy and serperior, but I don't like it because it looks like someone used a pokemon fusion on snivy and serperior, which feels like lazy design
Braxien isn't perfect, but if it were Fennekin's final evolution I think everyone would like it more than Delphox. The tail broom fire friction wand thing was actually really cool, and I'm sad it went away when it evolved. If its real middle evolution was just a bigger quadraped that would have been way better
I am honestly really surprised to see Dewott this low. It has imo one of the greatest middle stage starter Pokemon design. Anyways it's your opinion and I've to respect it
Grovyle is literally the only middle evolution (not even just among starters) that i really didn't want to evolve since it looks sooo cool. I prefer it's sleek design to the more bulky Sceptile (which is still a great design, but just not on the same level). Mystery Dungeon bias could be partly responsible for this. Time/Darkness/Sky are THE best pokemon spin off games.
The treecko line has always been the best starter line from beginning to end. It’s just so consistently good that it took me a long time to pick my favorite stage
thanks for the laughs recently man been going through it a bit and when im not busy these vids help even if they are jus u rambling about pokemon designs and putting them in a list i rate this content
Torracat would be my number one, it’s the only starter I’ve genuinely not wanted to evolve because I like it’s middle stage so much better than it’s final one
Idk Quilladin has such a derpy look that gives it, it's charm. Plus it fits the idea of a kid having an awkward chubby phase as a preteen and then growing up to be a buff Chad in college
Brionne was actually one of my favorites, that line being one of the only two that made me go water. The other being Totodile of course, that's just an A+ gen starter wise, hardest of the lot to choose.
That Mystery Dungeon comment... I felt that But despite that, Bayleef is my favorite middle stage, I just like the Chikorita line that much. Grovyle's still top 5 at the very least
Now as a guy who likes every Starter Pokemon [Yes, I'm serious] as far as Middle Evolutions go its hard to rank all of them in one as of now, but these are the ones that i love dearly as far as top6~ Quilava [Favorite Johto mon] Torracat [Favorite Alola mon] Braixen Servine [Favorite Unova mon] Dewott Raboot.
not very often I see one of these lists/rankings where Drizzile isn't in the bottom 5, and not only that, it's not very often I see others giving Drizzile any semblance of respect, this list makes me happy
I'm upset that dewott didn't take no.1, really makes up for the oshawott line (and the only time I actually preferred the middle evolution than the final/first)
I can’t even be mad about Grovyle being #1. I chose Mudkip so Grovyle was the one who’s been living in my head rent free from the route 110 battle as well😅Plus the mystery dungeon hype really escalated it into stand-alone status so I fully understand it. But glad you can agree Quilava is a solid #2 since it’s my favorite Pokémon:) (Yes even over Typhlosion)
The one thing that I find off-putting about Thwackey is the legs. They just look like they shouldn’t be the same colour as the rest of his body to me and I don’t know why.
Personally, I love Ivysaur. Top 5 for me. I think this is one of the rare example of me liking every evolution. Cool colors, cool plant on head, and overall really cool design. I think I would switch him with Bayleef
@@Amelia4111 first of all, why is every comment of yours has a capslock on, it makes it seem like you are screaming. Pikachu is a starter. Bulbapedia can say whatever the fuck it wants but pikachu is the starter in yellow and let's go pikachu.
@@---oq5kb *#1, YOU ARE NOT INVOLVED IN THIS CONVERSATION! #2, YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO SWEAR AT ME, EVER! #3, I AM NOT SCRAMING! I AM ONLY TYPING LIKE THIS BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE ON HERE WHO CANNOT SEE SMALL LETTERS!*
@@Amelia4111 this is a youtube comment section, literally nobody is part of any conversation before they comment. You yourself swore in another video in this channel, so I don't think you should be commenting on other people swearing.
As of recent, Braixen has managed to quickly climb the ranks to my Top 5 of all Pokémon. Such a great design, and probably the best looking of its line (and this is coming from someone who likes Delphox too). Shoutouts to the anime and Pokken for helping me come to love this fox
14:39 Bro how did you know exactly what my Christmas was like in 2011?! Even got the XRocker! I’ll never forget hooking up my DSI to the chair’s speakers and just blaring the Sprout Tower as I played Heart Gold for the first time.
That rabbot explanation takes me back man, to the days when before our midday class p and after break where people would be selling £1.15 lucozades for 80p and thinking they are making a hussle. I remember buying a packet of maoams for 40p when. The are a pound each at. The corner shop.
This video gives me mixed feelings. On one hand you put some of my favorites way lower than I expect like Dewott, Braixen, and Brionne, but you also had good points on why some of the other mid evos I don't really like have good designs like Frogadier, Raboot, and Servine.
My favorite is Ivysaur, but I also love Grotle, Grovyle, and Torracat. I don't like Prinplup or Combusken. Also, I think Servine is lame because it seems like someone used a pokemon fusion on serperior and snivy
I usually agree with most of your takes but your not telling me you rate Dartrix. If Quilladin was drawn by a 2 year old, Dartrix was born by the grown up game freak employee who drew Quilladin. That man got even worse at drawing
I think grotle is fucking beautiful. it looks like a stealth tank walking around camouflaging itself with bushes. also I will never except brione not being the worst mid stage. least controversial my ass haha
For my Choice here it is Lower class 24:Quilladin too ugly 23:Brionne not As bad as quilladin but not good 22:Prinplup kinda ugly 21:Pignite wouldve been 23 But after using it more i started to like it 20:Grotle same reason as prinplup but i just like it a bit more than pignite and prinplup Meh class 19:Croconaw I love totodile and feraligatr but croconaw… its meh 18:Servine I dont like the Ash’s snivy but servine is okay just outclassed 17:Dartrix Emo overlord 16:Combusken its Not Horrible but i prefer others 15:Marshtomp Derpy but in an okay way ig 14:Thwackey its alright 13:Raboot gen 8 starters are honestly around the same middle stage wise 12:Drizzile as i said with raboot High class 11:Dewott i like it more than i thought but its not AMAZING 10:Braixen probably the most underrated middle stage 9:Torracat Its good but i thought 8 were better 8:Wartortle All of gen 1 are Good 7:Ivysaur near the same with wartortle 6:Bayleef HUGE UPGRADE from chikorita 5:Charmeleon Better than Ivysaur and wartortle but barely cracks top 5 4:Monferno Pretty good infernape is my favorite pokemon of all time BUT i will say its not the absolute best 3:Frogadier Solid and No downgrades just Not as good as the other teo 2:Quilava Honestly great BUT number 1 is the best 1:Grovyle Honestly very cool and Ash’s was very memorable as a grovyle so overall the Generation averages 8: Unova dewott made it high class But its pretty downgraded 7: Galar all are solid just none of them made it high class 6: Alola Torracat is solid but the other two are…Bad especially brionne 5: Sinnoh Honestly couldve been swapped with 4 But I just think grotle and prinplup are Bad 4:Kalos Quilladin just brings it down TOO MUCH 3:Johto not bad croconaw is Meh but bayleef and quilava are good just cant beat 2 and 1 2:Hoenn even though grovyle Made it number 1 I have a reason for gen 3 being number 2 1:Kanto even though grovyle got number 1 All of Kanto made it High class so Kanto Wins
as always, the funniest thing to me about these videos is how he talks about ranking things, down to putting the tier list image in the thumbnail, and then he comes is with a numbered list. amazing. I don't know if anyone notices it, or if he's even doing it on purpose, but I'm pretty sure this is an active choice. and it's funny. but also this guy kills it with the writing and summing up what's good or not about pokemon. I can't even be mad if he disses a pokemon I like. and mad respect to the johto middle starters! bayleef croconaw and quilava are not only great progression on their previous forms, they're fantastic steps on the way to their final evolutions (which I see I like more than he does). I think johto might have the most consistently good starter pokemon across all their evolutions, of any generation.
Grovyle isn’t just the goat, it’s a straight up absolute heaven tier gift from God. Grovyle Quillava Frogadier Charmeleon Bayleef These are the 5 goats for me (Croconaw is left out for me because it reminds me of marshtomp a lot, which I’m indifferent about.)
@@Amelia4111 nah nah, because it’s one of the rare cases where they rate the mid stage better than the final stage. I actually have the same list but quilava is at 4th and charmeleon and frogadier go ip
I just noticed the Kanto starters all get a very noticable attitude shift when they evolve to the mid-stage, very much a pet that grew into themselves and you have to regain their trust for that final evolution.
Grovyle’s design is so clean that everyone agrees it’s the best out of the hoenn trio even if they picked the others
Grovyle could be his own final evolution that's how clean his design is
As a diehard Swampert fan, I will happily rate Grovyle the best 2nd stage starter. Cleaner than a lake after Suicune touches it.
I can agree wit this
AND THE PMD NOSTALGIA
@@kappaprimus he just wanted to save the world
The amount of Charisma this man brings to the table is f****** ridiculous this dude is on the list of channels I watch religiously
I know right? So surprising
Watched 8 mins and subbed, he’s really enjoyable to listen to. He called Marshtomp the bouncer of route 110 😂
In my opinion, Grovyle is the only middle evolution that genuinely looks better than its final evolution, which is saying something because Sceptile still looks sick. Glad to see it was your #1 as well
I like Grovyle but I do think Sceptils looks better. It’s just so cool
Sceptile looks cooler to me
Agreed, Grovyle looks cooler than Sceptile
ivysaur???
I think Quilava looks better than Typhlosion
I actually think Dewott is one of the best middle stage starters. And glad to see Johto starters getting some love. Always thought Quilava was so clean lol
Dewott is THE best middle stage starter , judging by design
mans put dartrix and primplup over monferno and dewott smh
@@augusto5196 Fact!
@@trctta shameful
Grovyl, Charmeleon, Dewott is the top 3
Ok I've gotta pipe up a bit for my boy Dewott cause this line is getting a lot of shade so far! Dewott really starts to bring in the samurai aesthetic with the top knot, the whiskers, and the shell blades strapped to the hips ready to go full Vergil JUDGEMENT CUT on anyone who tries to jump him!
Of course all in good fun, love the videos and excited for the final stage rankings!
Dewott is just good in general
I love this editing plus the script, it's truly incredible.
BUT if anyone else tells me that Drizzile is a better mid-evolution than Dewott we about to throw hands
Damn. Guess you gotta get ready to throw hands with the big meaty claws of the absolute unit itself, crabrawler.
Fr
Dewott is better than drizzile
Tbh I was suprised placing dewott so low, i preffer dewott than his other evolutions, especially samurrot, i don't like him for some reason
Yeah Dewott is a top tier mid evo
I think Monferno deserves more credit for looking like a natural evolution to Chimchar and pre evolution to Infernape whilst having an awesome design of its own
This comment under rated I think the whole lineup is heat and underrated
I agree 100%
Better looking monkey than Thwackey over there. At least he has a neck and other clear segmentations in his body instead
@@yaboyj3428 I agree, I think it’s a crime that Drizzile and Ivysaur are above Monferno and its line. Monferno is a great upgrade from Chimchar, and I’m a Grotle fan
@@luckymango1963 thank u and the turtwig Evolution line is slept on too turtwing was actual the first one I had before I traded it 😭but definitely a good line up tho toterra definitely looks like a badass
man the banter and the editing this guy has, big up man love it
I could listen to this guy talk about Pokémon forever. Literally top-notch entertainment.
Ivysaur to me is the clear number one. Nobody rates it yet it is the perfect middle evolution between bulbasaur and venusaur, which is what the middle forms were supposed to be. Also, even in a vaccuum, it has a clean ass design.
Edit: side note I love how on bulbasaur the back flower is just a bulb, then on ivysaur the bulb opens to reveal the closed flower, and then on venusaur the flower finally blooms into a large beautiful plant. Really exemplifies the excellent job gamefreak did with transitioning one member of the line to the next.
Finally someone I can relate with
Definitely one of the few that doesn't look awkward😂
Good for you, you're wrong.
FINALLY SOMEONE AGREES!
I think servine also works well between snivy and serperior, but I don't like it because it looks like someone used a pokemon fusion on snivy and serperior, which feels like lazy design
Braxien isn't perfect, but if it were Fennekin's final evolution I think everyone would like it more than Delphox. The tail broom fire friction wand thing was actually really cool, and I'm sad it went away when it evolved. If its real middle evolution was just a bigger quadraped that would have been way better
delphox still has the wand, it just isnt used in its model at all which is so stupid
Delphox 2d fan sprites are cool but it's 3d model is absolutely cheeks
I agree and say that braixen is the best gen 6 middle evolution and frogadier is only rated so highly by everyone because of greninja
What's a Braxien?
Ivysaur feels like a nice dog, like a frog husky that tries to look scary but acts goofy
I'm so hyped for the final evolutions ranked. This guy is amazing.
I am honestly really surprised to see Dewott this low. It has imo one of the greatest middle stage starter Pokemon design. Anyways it's your opinion and I've to respect it
Grovyle is literally the only middle evolution (not even just among starters) that i really didn't want to evolve since it looks sooo cool.
I prefer it's sleek design to the more bulky Sceptile (which is still a great design, but just not on the same level).
Mystery Dungeon bias could be partly responsible for this. Time/Darkness/Sky are THE best pokemon spin off games.
I hate grovyle
Gotta remember that the mascot of the Pokémon Company is a middle evolution.
I honestly like grovyle’s design more than sceptile
Pretty sure thats the general consensus
I was looking forward to hearing you roast Pignite and Quilladin, and you Sir did not disappoint 😂💀
So glad Bayleef gets some love. I've always been enamored with its design
I actually liked Grotle's Design. Among my top 3 in mid stage evos, My worse is that Prinplup and Quilladin.
Please stop lying man
Mate, your banter keeps getting sharper and sharper, I snort laughed multiple times during this.
Now rank the move evolutions next:
-Mr. Mime (Mimic)
-Sudowoodo (Mimic)
-Ambipom (Double Hit)
-Lickilicky (Rollout)
-Tangrowth (Ancient Power)
-Yanmega (Ancient Power)
-Mamoswine (Ancient Power)
-Sylveon (any Fairy move)
-Tsareena (Stomp)
-Naganadel (Dragon Pulse)
-Grapploct (Taunt)
You already know Grapploct is gonna be number 1
Actually, that's a pretty good order you put them in, starting from Mr Mime as worst to Grapploct as best.
Swap Licki with Sylveon, and Sylveon with Mamoswine.
Grapploct and Licki in S.
@@rowanalexandriabennett i think it’s just pokédex order lol
I actually love Grotle. A beefy friend. But to me, Ivysaur is #1
same! agree with both points
Same
The middle evolution stage really is the awkward teenage stage of every teen
Which is why I like Quilladin. He's like a powerlifter waiting to hit puberty.
2:19 This had me laughing for a good 10 minutes🤣🤣
Same I love Max that was amazing especially the Lil Fella reference
The most underrated PokeTuber. It's absolutely criminal that this guy doesn't have more subs. Another class video, mate!
The treecko line has always been the best starter line from beginning to end. It’s just so consistently good that it took me a long time to pick my favorite stage
Grovyle and PMD go hand in hand for me, it made me love Grovyle so much more, just because of that game. Glad you mentioned it.
thanks for the laughs recently man been going through it a bit and when im not busy these vids help even if they are jus u rambling about pokemon designs and putting them in a list i rate this content
Why you gotta put my Dewott below below the trainwreck that is Combusken, leave my Samurai otter alone!
Nice take on Drizzile. I’ve been thinking he’s pretty over-hated so it’s nice seeing some minor praise tossed his way
Torracat would be my number one, it’s the only starter I’ve genuinely not wanted to evolve because I like it’s middle stage so much better than it’s final one
Its* (no apostrophe if used as a pronoun)
Putting Prinplup, Monferno and Servine higher than Dewott should be a crime
Man cutting better promos on fictional characters in a children's game than half the WWE roster
Grovyle is always king. If Sceptile didn’t exist, it might just be my favourite Pokemon ever.
Idk Quilladin has such a derpy look that gives it, it's charm. Plus it fits the idea of a kid having an awkward chubby phase as a preteen and then growing up to be a buff Chad in college
Its* (no apostrophe if used as a pronoun)
Seeing Dewott below Combusken really hurt ma feelins
We all know these middle stages are worse than cradily
Torchic and Blaziken are too good for Combusken to look like that
To be fair, the middle of the road between a full chicken and a very humanoid chicken creature is inevitably going to look pretty weird.
Been waiting for this, big ups
Charmeleon, Croconaw, Grovyle, Monferno, Pignite, Braixen, Dartrix and Thwackey are my favourite mid evolution starters.
The Oshawott slander will not be tolerated >:(
Brionne was actually one of my favorites, that line being one of the only two that made me go water. The other being Totodile of course, that's just an A+ gen starter wise, hardest of the lot to choose.
That Mystery Dungeon comment... I felt that
But despite that, Bayleef is my favorite middle stage, I just like the Chikorita line that much. Grovyle's still top 5 at the very least
As someone who loves turtwig and Torterra, yeah grotle’s design is bad, it’s a good showcase of what it’ll become but bad overall
While I love Grotle. More than Torterra. It's great.
What? Grotle is good; it even has the best shiny among the line. Y'all really got to explain yourselves on this one.
Now as a guy who likes every Starter Pokemon [Yes, I'm serious] as far as Middle Evolutions go its hard to rank all of them in one as of now, but these are the ones that i love dearly as far as top6~
Quilava [Favorite Johto mon]
Torracat [Favorite Alola mon]
Braixen
Servine [Favorite Unova mon]
Dewott
Raboot.
Fair Enough
My favorites from each gen are: Charmeleon, Bayleef, Grovyle, Monferno, Dewott, Frogadier, Torrecat and Raboot!
aw man, i like combusken. the eyes and the 3 streaks of hair look really cool imo. its cry is amazing as well
probably one of my fav mid evos
5:30 🤣 I almost dropped my weights while doing incline press.
not very often I see one of these lists/rankings where Drizzile isn't in the bottom 5, and not only that, it's not very often I see others giving Drizzile any semblance of respect, this list makes me happy
I'm upset that dewott didn't take no.1, really makes up for the oshawott line (and the only time I actually preferred the middle evolution than the final/first)
I can’t even be mad about Grovyle being #1. I chose Mudkip so Grovyle was the one who’s been living in my head rent free from the route 110 battle as well😅Plus the mystery dungeon hype really escalated it into stand-alone status so I fully understand it. But glad you can agree Quilava is a solid #2 since it’s my favorite Pokémon:) (Yes even over Typhlosion)
I don’t like a lot of the mid evolutions. Though these Pokémon I really like. My favourites are in order:
Raboot
Grovyle
Braxien
Dewott
Dewott is underrated fr
@@pigskin1287 imo it’s like Raboot when it’s better than it’s final evolution
@@pigskin1287 True
I've been sitting in my safe space for 72 hours straight, no bathroom breaks, because I'm salty about you doing my boi turtwig dirty
The one thing that I find off-putting about Thwackey is the legs. They just look like they shouldn’t be the same colour as the rest of his body to me and I don’t know why.
I can't believe this. I genuinely agree with every single ranking on this list. I guess your man's just got taste.
Personally, I love Ivysaur. Top 5 for me. I think this is one of the rare example of me liking every evolution. Cool colors, cool plant on head, and overall really cool design. I think I would switch him with Bayleef
You forgot Pikachu on the technicality of it being the middle stage of a starter line. 🤣
PIKACHU IS NOT A STARTER! IT SAID SO IN ITS BULBAPEDIA PAGE!
@@Amelia4111 first of all, why is every comment of yours has a capslock on, it makes it seem like you are screaming.
Pikachu is a starter. Bulbapedia can say whatever the fuck it wants but pikachu is the starter in yellow and let's go pikachu.
@@---oq5kb *#1, YOU ARE NOT INVOLVED IN THIS CONVERSATION! #2, YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO SWEAR AT ME, EVER! #3, I AM NOT SCRAMING! I AM ONLY TYPING LIKE THIS BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE ON HERE WHO CANNOT SEE SMALL LETTERS!*
@@Amelia4111 this is a youtube comment section, literally nobody is part of any conversation before they comment.
You yourself swore in another video in this channel, so I don't think you should be commenting on other people swearing.
@@---oq5kb *THEN GET OVER IT, AND STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT IT, BECAUSE I AM NOT GONNA STOP UNTIL EVERYONE ELSE DOES!*
"That's him Daddy! He's the one who called me Oshawho!"
Can't wait for the finale to the mini series.
Dartrix wins where it matters.
He is a college scholar. He's here to make sure you don't skip your lessons.
As of recent, Braixen has managed to quickly climb the ranks to my Top 5 of all Pokémon. Such a great design, and probably the best looking of its line (and this is coming from someone who likes Delphox too). Shoutouts to the anime and Pokken for helping me come to love this fox
cold ones reference was definitely unexpected but welcomed
Wasnt expecting the cameo of the funny little character, did you guys saw the little funny character, he seems cool
what a cool little character he's got sunglasses
This man killed me with the way he clapped Grotle and Quilladin
2:25 I respect the reference.
14:39 Bro how did you know exactly what my Christmas was like in 2011?! Even got the XRocker! I’ll never forget hooking up my DSI to the chair’s speakers and just blaring the Sprout Tower as I played Heart Gold for the first time.
Middle stage starters work better for the grass types because plants have a more gradual growing.
Middle stage starters are so popular that when a Pokémon has a bad middle stage they call it starter fever
If not for Servine I think the Unova starters would be all bottom tier but Quilidon man truly one of the most rom bootleg evolutions to be conceived.
That rabbot explanation takes me back man, to the days when before our midday class p and after break where people would be selling £1.15 lucozades for 80p and thinking they are making a hussle. I remember buying a packet of maoams for 40p when. The are a pound each at. The corner shop.
This video gives me mixed feelings. On one hand you put some of my favorites way lower than I expect like Dewott, Braixen, and Brionne, but you also had good points on why some of the other mid evos I don't really like have good designs like Frogadier, Raboot, and Servine.
tfw Grotle is #24 when I love every member of the Turtwig line.
I’m so scared to see where he rates Samurott
Samurrott is such a good Pokémon. I really hope it’s not low
he likes it.
Most the middle stages, are basically teens in puberty 😂
Makes me sad that Brionne gets so much hate. I think it's adorable and is one of my fave middle stages alongside Braixen, Quilava and Bayleef.
I have never laughed harder than hearing“I’m not off the johto pill”
I actually really like Drizzile as a middle stage (I find it a lot better than Inteleon) so I'm glad to see some others that appreciate it.
There should be only one L in Inteleon!
@@Amelia4111 oh thanks
Timestamps:
#24: 0:55 Grotel
#23: 1:43 Quilladin
#22: 2:45 Pignite
#21: 2:36 Breon
#20: 4:33 Dewott
#19: 5:10 Combusken
#18: 5:41 Monferno
#17: 6:08 Prinplup
#16: 6:52 Braixen
#15: 7:25 Dartrix
#14: 7:56 Marshtomp
#13: 8:17 Drizzile
#12 & #11: 8:51 Wartortle and Ivysaur
#10: 9:38 Servine
#9: 10:24 Raboot
#8: 11:24 Toracat
#7: 12:08 Frogadier
#6: 12:50 Charmeleon
#5: 13:38 Thwackey
#4-2: 14:30 Johto Trio
#1: 16:08 Grovyle
My favorite is Ivysaur, but I also love Grotle, Grovyle, and Torracat. I don't like Prinplup or Combusken. Also, I think Servine is lame because it seems like someone used a pokemon fusion on serperior and snivy
Sobble's evo, who's name escapes me, is at the bottom for me along with the rest of its cursed bloodline
Finally! Someone appreciates Charmeleon!
Big up the cold ones reference my man knows TH-cam
you seen that funny little character ?
I usually agree with most of your takes but your not telling me you rate Dartrix. If Quilladin was drawn by a 2 year old, Dartrix was born by the grown up game freak employee who drew Quilladin. That man got even worse at drawing
These videos are banging good. Happy I found this dude
Grovyle is my favorite second stage, followed by dewott.
A cold ones reference in the chespin entry, a man of culture I see
I think grotle is fucking beautiful. it looks like a stealth tank walking around camouflaging itself with bushes. also I will never except brione not being the worst mid stage. least controversial my ass haha
I’m with ya man. The turtwig line is very close to my heart, and for him to rank grotle last made me all kinds of sad
I gotta respect that Joe Swanson impression my man. Absolute class
Lol Dewott is a top 5 contender, He is the beast part of his line.
2:25 Oh hey, have you seen this little fella? This funny little egg character?
Grovyle is a top 3 favorite of mine overall and i like it over sceptile by a bit. Pokemon mystery dungeon helped though
The gen 3 starters really do be different, all the stages are certified bangers
For my Choice here it is
Lower class
24:Quilladin too ugly
23:Brionne not As bad as quilladin but not good
22:Prinplup kinda ugly
21:Pignite wouldve been 23 But after using it more i started to like it
20:Grotle same reason as prinplup but i just like it a bit more than pignite and prinplup
Meh class
19:Croconaw I love totodile and feraligatr but croconaw… its meh
18:Servine I dont like the Ash’s snivy but servine is okay just outclassed
17:Dartrix Emo overlord
16:Combusken its Not Horrible but i prefer others
15:Marshtomp Derpy but in an okay way ig
14:Thwackey its alright
13:Raboot gen 8 starters are honestly around the same middle stage wise
12:Drizzile as i said with raboot
High class
11:Dewott i like it more than i thought but its not AMAZING
10:Braixen probably the most underrated middle stage
9:Torracat Its good but i thought 8 were better
8:Wartortle All of gen 1 are Good
7:Ivysaur near the same with wartortle
6:Bayleef HUGE UPGRADE from chikorita
5:Charmeleon Better than Ivysaur and wartortle but barely cracks top 5
4:Monferno Pretty good infernape is my favorite pokemon of all time BUT i will say its not the absolute best
3:Frogadier Solid and No downgrades just Not as good as the other teo
2:Quilava Honestly great BUT number 1 is the best
1:Grovyle Honestly very cool and Ash’s was very memorable as a grovyle
so overall the Generation averages
8: Unova dewott made it high class But its pretty downgraded
7: Galar all are solid just none of them made it high class
6: Alola Torracat is solid but the other two are…Bad especially brionne
5: Sinnoh Honestly couldve been swapped with 4 But I just think grotle and prinplup are Bad
4:Kalos Quilladin just brings it down TOO MUCH
3:Johto not bad croconaw is Meh but bayleef and quilava are good just cant beat 2 and 1
2:Hoenn even though grovyle Made it number 1 I have a reason for gen 3 being number 2
1:Kanto even though grovyle got number 1 All of Kanto made it High class so Kanto Wins
I like quilladij
The UK jokes about Raboot killed me
did pignite ridiculously dirty
how u rank dewott above :(
Hate how he placed Bayleaf so high up tho, so many better ones below it
as always, the funniest thing to me about these videos is how he talks about ranking things, down to putting the tier list image in the thumbnail, and then he comes is with a numbered list. amazing. I don't know if anyone notices it, or if he's even doing it on purpose, but I'm pretty sure this is an active choice. and it's funny. but also this guy kills it with the writing and summing up what's good or not about pokemon. I can't even be mad if he disses a pokemon I like.
and mad respect to the johto middle starters! bayleef croconaw and quilava are not only great progression on their previous forms, they're fantastic steps on the way to their final evolutions (which I see I like more than he does). I think johto might have the most consistently good starter pokemon across all their evolutions, of any generation.
Grovyle isn’t just the goat, it’s a straight up absolute heaven tier gift from God.
Grovyle
Quillava
Frogadier
Charmeleon
Bayleef
These are the 5 goats for me (Croconaw is left out for me because it reminds me of marshtomp a lot, which I’m indifferent about.)
THERE SHOULD BE ONLY ONE L IN QUILAVA!
@@Amelia4111 nah nah, because it’s one of the rare cases where they rate the mid stage better than the final stage. I actually have the same list but quilava is at 4th and charmeleon and frogadier go ip
@@Amelia4111 i thought you meant that Quilava was the L in the list
“Looks more suspect than Timmy Turner in Retroville” 💀💀💀
U put dewott where? Nah fam come catch these
Yea he about to catch these hands
I just noticed the Kanto starters all get a very noticable attitude shift when they evolve to the mid-stage, very much a pet that grew into themselves and you have to regain their trust for that final evolution.