Our human brains don't (can't) always pick up on aural warnings when busy with other tasks. It is not uncommon and the study of how to improve warning interfaces with humans in complex settings is ongoing.
@@usr747 Ah, OK, that could make more sense, but the video said "sounding". In any case, an alert that important should have some sort of sound or something like that, like the "master caution" on planes...
@@javiTests According to the report, the system gave many false alarms and the controllers did not use it much. Of course, they will consider improving it to sound an alarm. But if the system continues to give many false alarms, it will only irritate the controllers.
As indicated in this report, there were so many factors contributing directly and indirectly to this collision, including the crew of the Japan Coast Guard Dash-8 plane being preoccupied with the Noto Peninsula 7.6-magnitude earthquake, heavy fog & poor visibility at the airport, non-functioning alarm system in the ATC. Despite all of these factors, it is a miracle that all the passengers & crew of JAL A350 flight escaped unharmed, and the only fatalities were the crew of the JCG Dash-8 plane! This miracle was due mainly to the professionalism of the JAL crew, as well as the discipline unselfishness of the passengers!
In Japan, training in safely escaping from school buildings in the event of an earthquake begins as soon as students enter elementary school. And continues monthly until they graduate from high school. Hence, most Japanese are trained not to panic in the event of a disaster.
According to the actual preliminary report, the alarm does not make a sound... It just visually indicate by turning runway yellow in the screen. The report also states, that there were constant false alarms, and the ATC operators were never briefed to make any action based on that alarm.
1:57 just one of many factors but this is a good reminder for the cockpit to be sterile during taxi, takeoff and landing even if it's very understandable under those circumstances
Yeah, and I'm glad that shitty year is gone now. I hate 2024 (Bad things have happened to me in my personal life so I had a beef with the year) and have hated it more since the start. Hopefully there's no more idiots entering runways without clearance and ignorant ATCs.
Still very very long. Maybe you are counting from the crash time?? I know that the crew hesitated for a while before deciding which doors were safe from the fire and deploy the evacuation exits.
Otherwise, 11 minutes would be extremely long time to evacuate all passengers. It is supposed to be 90 seconds with half of the emergency exits available.
@@joso5554 Yes, from the time of the crash, not the time after it landed and stopped so not that long. Checking which door is safe is an important thing and they always do that. "90 seconds" is once the emergency doors are opened, which I believe they managed in this case. In fact the 11 minutes was when the captain got out of the aircraft after checking there was no one left, so passengers were evacuated well before that.
- At many Airports the taxi ways are messy, poorly signed, and confusing - Air Traffic Controllers culture vary a lot, from one country to another - Ground radars, and updated sensors are not available at all Airports - Many Airports don't have high-definition cameras recording all take-offs and landings
Agree with taxiway markings, signage. Each airport seems to have its very own colliquism too. Meaning those who provide instructions and service, can get into a “clique” per se. visiting crew, who infrequently arrive there are at the mercy of this colliquism. As an international Gulfstream G650 Captain I can attest to this phenomenon. Think KJFK. It works, but………
Thank you very much for the Update! Nothing of this Preliminary Report is surprising and in fact we had known the very most information of it. The only interesting additional information is that the Dash-8-Crew was heavily involved in a discussion about the earthquake and therefore lost their situational awareness. Nevertheless: Thank you very much!👍
transponders are used from taxi out to gate arrival. tcas has altitude restrictions for takeoff and landing. human controller error was major breakdown in causing this accident
Yeah, this sounds somewhat similar to the 1991 LA runway collision. From what I remember, one of the contributing factors was that the smaller plane on the runway was lined up perfectly straight in the middle of the runway, which made the lights on the plane blend in with the runway lights. Of course if the Japanese Coast Guard crew was off to the side a little bit then maybe this isn't a factor.
Routinely - pilots only switch the aircraft transponders ON when cleared for takeoff. Maybe this procedure should change. Why not activate the transponder to ON when entering the runway?. If the transponder on the Dash 8 was active - the Airbus would have received a Traffic-Collision Avoidance warning message - probably in good time to allow for a go around.
At a major airline here in canada we turn on our transponders when we push back from the gate to mode a and turn on to mode c ( the anti collision position ) when entering the runway no idea what they do in Japan and note the dash 8 was a Japanese coast guard airplane ( again may have different procedures/ requirements
Standard procedure is to switch transponder to TA/RA when entering the runway isn’t it? Also I doubt you can rely on TCAS coming into land at an airport… and actually you cannot use it at all because when TCAS determined that the conflict aircraft is on the ground, it will inhibits advisories for that aircraft. You don’t want TCAS to spam your MFD on short final when countless of planes are lining up on the taxi way waiting for takeoff on a busy morning… There are also numerous other issues such as ground and ATC radar interference and your plane flying right in the middle of radio signals from the localiser and glide slope antennas might not be ideal…
And a non standard ambiguous ATC wording to tell the Dash to hold short of the runway. And ATC didn’t object to not receiving a callback from the Dash to repeat the message for check…
So disappointing. The elephant in the room, something we all need to know, but which is apparently not in the report, is how well did the carbon composite airframe of this A350 hold up in the fire. Rumour has it that aircrew were still checking for passengers 20 minutes after everyone had actually got out. The fact that it eventually burned to cinder, is because the fire department made very little effort to put the fire out afterwards, and that was a shame. Every potential passenger needs to know whether this cabin construction proved to be better than aluminium......
In terms of fire it is. But we knew that before the crash. Carbon fiber is much more fire resistant. When it eventually burns it is very hard to extinguish. But in aviation the first few minutes are crucial. And in those first few minutes it is far superior.
A serious accident always combined with multiple factors. Yet it is one of the safest way to travel compared to driving, the chances of having accident while driving is far higher than flying anyway.
2️⃣0️⃣2️⃣4️⃣ plane started with JAL @Tokyo Airtport with 5️⃣ persons on the Dash-8 losing their lives while all the 367 on the jumbo Jet saved. The last crash of the year was in S.Korea involving a Jeju Airline which killed 176 people in the aircraft leaving just 2️⃣ persons alive....What a year in Asia 🎑
Every death is one too much of course, but when you look at the amount of flights in Asia, and passengers who fly in a year's time, it's not bad at all. And it's human error not a technical failure! And I don't want to know how many lives are destroyed by human failure non aviation related!
Despite everything, it seems to me that the primary cause was that the Coast Guard Dash-8 should not have been on the runway. It was only ever instructed to "Hold Short" and never received further instruction to "Line up and wait" on the active runway. That is the human error that caused the accident. Perhaps the reason the preliminary report was so slow was that the Japanese Government slowed things down, not being in a hurry to admit that it was responsible?!
I believe the wording from the ATC was non standard (definitely not « hold short »), and the ATC didn’t object to the crew not repeating their message for verification. The crew understood they were cleared to align on the runway and wait. And they didn’t even bother to listen to the radio for other traffic, nor most importantly to visually check the approach path themselves. Many unprofessional and negligent actions on both sides.
the Dash-8 is a De Havilland Canada aircraft, not a Bombardier aircraft. Longview bought the aircraft type and the "de havilland" brand during Bombardier's liquidation. De Havilland Canada would have been the one consulted by JTSB as aircraft builder since Bombardier Commercial Aviation no longer exists, and what is left of Bombardier after the corporate liquidation is only the business jets which Bombardier Corp couldn't liquidate due to no interested buyers. Business jets is saddled with much of the debt left by commercial aviation, transportation and aerostructures.
These accidents are irrefutable proof controlers are lazy or overwhelmed. They never suffer from a stupid lack of situational awareness. The pathetic excuse for see and avoid responsibility is always on the flight crew and these cases prove overwhelming the level of carelessness by pilots and controlers. When I fly any airplane it is on me to question controlers and doubt if other pilots are looking out for traffic. The passengers suffers with terrible in injuries and add to the mayhem with their loads of carry on crap. Luggage belongs anywhere except the passenger cabin!!
Oh calm down. The ATC were most definitely overwhelmed as it clearly mentions in the report. It was a natural disaster response timeline. And situational awareness is definitely a thing. Most crashes are a combination of factors, not just one. Hence crash reports are pages and pages long, takes a long time to investigate, compile and recommend. Dumbest comment I have read in a while.
Excellent professional video thank you much appreciated normally you don’t find out the results of airline accident investigations. As a retired highly experienced senior professional from the electricity power generation industry with extensive operational and safety experience I am totally appalled at what happened how bad can things get I don’t feel safe flying anymore. Also to take 1 year to produce only the preliminary report is not acceptable far too long.
When we look closely, an aircraft isn't very 'substantial,' really - is it? It's like a thin, aluminum 'balloon' (mms thick skin) containing very fragile people.
@@AnetaMihaylova-d6fbut the fault would fall on the JCG crew, not so much on the JAL crew... and since the pilot of that JCG Dash-8 survived the accident, he'll have to bear the guilt of his mistake for the rest of his days... same with the ATC team that day.
A full year to just release a preliminary report is kind of a joke. Japan’s civil aviation accident investigative agency must up its game and rapidly issue conclusions and mostly recommendations. This accident shows a total lack of professionalism from both the coast guard pilots and the airport ATC. This could have resulted in way more fatal casualties.
Time for thermal cameras for night time flying.... Also that time should've been 10 years before the first cars came with one over 20 years ago. I guess even night vision would work. Radar would work through weather too.
Yes, but visibility actually is hindered by too many lights. It’s very hard to spot a few position lights of an aircraft against the hundreds of runway lights.
I have a question NOT related to this report, but also to do with safety, I suppose. With (for example) a flight number including 9, why do they pronounce it as a niner instead of nine?
It's radio speaks under common guidance to avoid confusion or mishearing. 1 is pronounced won, 3- tree, and 9 niner. Check the NATO alphabet for a similar reason.
There are plenty of commercial airports where the Coast Guard, Air Force or even an Air Ambulance service is based out of for a region, simply because there isn't the space/money to have a separate facility. I was surprised myself to learn that the Japan Cost Guard has a facility and hangar at Haneda, but if you consider that it's the closest major airport to Tokyo Bay, a very busy shipping and fishing area, then it makes a lot of sense.
There is really no reason that they should not be allowed to use an international airport. This crew was quite unprofessional and not focused, which is dangerous in any airport.
Extremely tragic, particularly when the airport has a parallel runway on the other side of the airport that could have been used for departures instead of trying to 'squeeze' this (and no doubt other) departures in between arrivals. One runway for arrivals and one for departures and this wouldn't have happened.
The intercom system on the Airbus was essentially destroyed in the immediate aftermath of the crash, thus the use of megaphones, which is part of the emergency equipment used by many airlines in such an event.
I wouldn’t blame the a350 crew, because at night it’s near impossible to see the aircraft from behind against the runway lights, this was proven when a south west plane hit by a USair plane in LAX
how the hell is the A350 10% to blame?? The parked plane was invisible and the pilots coming into land trusted that ATC knew what the hell they were doing!!
With fuel fire raging on both sides, I think they did just fine taking time to assess the situation before deciding which doors were safe to evacuate from. Besides the cabin interphone had been disabled by the crash damage so the cabin crew had trouble communicating with each other.
That comparison is nonsense. That‘s like crashtesting two cars, one into a motorbike, one into a truck and then deriving conclusions which one is safer
Sigh... Doesn't matter which aircraft manufacturer it is, have any aircraft hit what that Jeju 737-800 hit and you're going to have a high number of fatalities.
@CactusBravo42 yes, the final one took many years. Maybe they wanted to be sure of the things they communicate. It was clear from the beginning it was human error not hardware issue.
Think you're getting hung up on the term preliminary report, given the size and depth of the report I think it can be better described as an interim report. Everybody else doesn't have to follow the NTSB descriptors or usual timelines.
Cannot believe it's been a WHOLE YEAR since that incident occurred. 2024 flew by faster than the Concorde!
And now it happened again
Not that fast
Am surprised too😅😅😅
2024 flew for airbus fans because the airbus fans have been having fun watching boeing suffer bias.
For us boeing fans,it is a different story
@@hoshimaruhajime7933 What
An alert sounding for a minute and the ATCs don't notice it? How?
Our human brains don't (can't) always pick up on aural warnings when busy with other tasks. It is not uncommon and the study of how to improve warning interfaces with humans in complex settings is ongoing.
The runway occupancy alert does not make any sound, it just appears on the display.
@@usr747 Ah, OK, that could make more sense, but the video said "sounding". In any case, an alert that important should have some sort of sound or something like that, like the "master caution" on planes...
@@javiTests According to the report, the system gave many false alarms and the controllers did not use it much. Of course, they will consider improving it to sound an alarm. But if the system continues to give many false alarms, it will only irritate the controllers.
I still wait for Mr AI to enter!
As indicated in this report, there were so many factors contributing directly and indirectly to this collision, including the crew of the Japan Coast Guard Dash-8 plane being preoccupied with the Noto Peninsula 7.6-magnitude earthquake, heavy fog & poor visibility at the airport, non-functioning alarm system in the ATC. Despite all of these factors, it is a miracle that all the passengers & crew of JAL A350 flight escaped unharmed, and the only fatalities were the crew of the JCG Dash-8 plane! This miracle was due mainly to the professionalism of the JAL crew, as well as the discipline unselfishness of the passengers!
In Japan, training in safely escaping from school buildings in the event of an earthquake begins as soon as students enter elementary school. And continues monthly until they graduate from high school. Hence, most Japanese are trained not to panic in the event of a disaster.
I'm sure Japanese passengers leave their luggage behind in an evacuation, as opposed to other cultures...
1:49 The runway occupancy alert does not make any sound, it just appears on the display.
Correct. And after the crash they modified to make an alert sound.
@@TrFusion Not yet.
I remember it so clear. That crash was so scary I thought I was seeing people burn alive
People WERE burnt alive. Those on the Japan Coast Guard plane.
One year already. Hope the loved ones to those lost have begun to heal.
Indeed.
I'd love to know what that alarm sounded like against the normal background noise in an ATC tower.
According to the actual preliminary report, the alarm does not make a sound...
It just visually indicate by turning runway yellow in the screen.
The report also states, that there were constant false alarms, and the ATC operators were never briefed to make any action based on that alarm.
@ ah, heard that one before many times. So many false alerts you start ignoring real one
1:57 just one of many factors but this is a good reminder for the cockpit to be sterile during taxi, takeoff and landing even if it's very understandable under those circumstances
It's been a year since this accident, man. I'm glad that shitty year is gone now.
2:25 imagine pushing back and seeing a fireball barreling down the runway and being like yeah let me keep pushing this plane back.
2024 had been a crazy year around here. First the earthquake, then this, it also ended with another tragedy. Hope 2025 would be a better year.
Wow, 2024 has really gone by quickly. Can't believe it's already been a year since this accident. It still feels like it happened yesterday.
Yeah, and I'm glad that shitty year is gone now. I hate 2024 (Bad things have happened to me in my personal life so I had a beef with the year) and have hated it more since the start. Hopefully there's no more idiots entering runways without clearance and ignorant ATCs.
They also found out that the evacuation took 11 minutes after the crash, rather than 18 minutes that was originally reported.
Still very very long. Maybe you are counting from the crash time?? I know that the crew hesitated for a while before deciding which doors were safe from the fire and deploy the evacuation exits.
Otherwise, 11 minutes would be extremely long time to evacuate all passengers. It is supposed to be 90 seconds with half of the emergency exits available.
@@joso5554 Yes, from the time of the crash, not the time after it landed and stopped so not that long. Checking which door is safe is an important thing and they always do that. "90 seconds" is once the emergency doors are opened, which I believe they managed in this case. In fact the 11 minutes was when the captain got out of the aircraft after checking there was no one left, so passengers were evacuated well before that.
- At many Airports the taxi ways are messy, poorly signed, and confusing
- Air Traffic Controllers culture vary a lot, from one country to another
- Ground radars, and updated sensors are not available at all Airports
- Many Airports don't have high-definition cameras recording all take-offs and landings
Agree with taxiway markings, signage. Each airport seems to have its very own colliquism too. Meaning those who provide instructions and service, can get into a “clique” per se. visiting crew, who infrequently arrive there are at the mercy of this colliquism. As an international Gulfstream G650 Captain I can attest to this phenomenon. Think KJFK. It works, but………
Thank you very much for the Update! Nothing of this Preliminary Report is surprising and in fact we had known the very most information of it. The only interesting additional information is that the Dash-8-Crew was heavily involved in a discussion about the earthquake and therefore lost their situational awareness.
Nevertheless: Thank you very much!👍
transponders are used from taxi out to gate arrival. tcas has altitude restrictions for takeoff and landing. human controller error was major breakdown in causing this accident
A350 is not to blame. Sometimes the planes will blend in with the runway.
Yeah, this sounds somewhat similar to the 1991 LA runway collision.
From what I remember, one of the contributing factors was that the smaller plane on the runway was lined up perfectly straight in the middle of the runway, which made the lights on the plane blend in with the runway lights.
Of course if the Japanese Coast Guard crew was off to the side a little bit then maybe this isn't a factor.
@@re57kcorrect
@DennisMerwood I’m glad you put the sarcasm part in there 😂
if anything this crash displays how efficient the A350’s exit doors are during evacuation
@Boeing_777_Lover lots of planes are efficient. The 777 is the best at it.
Routinely - pilots only switch the aircraft transponders ON when cleared for takeoff. Maybe this procedure should change. Why not activate the transponder to ON when entering the runway?. If the transponder on the Dash 8 was active - the Airbus would have received a Traffic-Collision Avoidance warning message - probably in good time to allow for a go around.
At a major airline here in canada we turn on our transponders when we push back from the gate to mode a and turn on to mode c ( the anti collision position ) when entering the runway no idea what they do in Japan and note the dash 8 was a Japanese coast guard airplane ( again may have different procedures/ requirements
Standard procedure is to switch transponder to TA/RA when entering the runway isn’t it?
Also I doubt you can rely on TCAS coming into land at an airport… and actually you cannot use it at all because when TCAS determined that the conflict aircraft is on the ground, it will inhibits advisories for that aircraft.
You don’t want TCAS to spam your MFD on short final when countless of planes are lining up on the taxi way waiting for takeoff on a busy morning…
There are also numerous other issues such as ground and ATC radar interference and your plane flying right in the middle of radio signals from the localiser and glide slope antennas might not be ideal…
Quite a long time indeed for just a preliminary report.
Just a sad event to highlight how well the A350 performed on both resisting the impact and the fire.
1 year apart that still hits hard 💔
One year everyone got out alive
Except for the JCG Dash 8 crew, obviously.
TOTAL INCOMPETENCE of airport operations
coupled with pilot error.
1 WHOLE minute of alarm going off is casually ignored.
And a non standard ambiguous ATC wording to tell the Dash to hold short of the runway. And ATC didn’t object to not receiving a callback from the Dash to repeat the message for check…
So disappointing. The elephant in the room, something we all need to know, but which is apparently not in the report, is how well did the carbon composite airframe of this A350 hold up in the fire. Rumour has it that aircrew were still checking for passengers 20 minutes after everyone had actually got out. The fact that it eventually burned to cinder, is because the fire department made very little effort to put the fire out afterwards, and that was a shame.
Every potential passenger needs to know whether this cabin construction proved to be better than aluminium......
well....they all survived. Take a look at last week's outcome.
In terms of fire it is. But we knew that before the crash. Carbon fiber is much more fire resistant. When it eventually burns it is very hard to extinguish. But in aviation the first few minutes are crucial. And in those first few minutes it is far superior.
@@MrSchwabentier
Yes, but it needs to be officially confirmed as fact by this report, otherwise its just opinion.......
People praising 350 for carbon fiber and forgetting 787
@ it of course applies to all carbon fibre aircraft
A serious accident always combined with multiple factors. Yet it is one of the safest way to travel compared to driving, the chances of having accident while driving is far higher than flying anyway.
2️⃣0️⃣2️⃣4️⃣ plane started with JAL @Tokyo Airtport with 5️⃣ persons on the Dash-8 losing their lives while all the 367 on the jumbo Jet saved. The last crash of the year was in S.Korea involving a Jeju Airline which killed 176 people in the aircraft leaving just 2️⃣ persons alive....What a year in Asia 🎑
Every death is one too much of course, but when you look at the amount of flights in Asia, and passengers who fly in a year's time, it's not bad at all. And it's human error not a technical failure! And I don't want to know how many lives are destroyed by human failure non aviation related!
Aviation started with an accident ended with an accident.... In 2024
it was actually 179 people died
Despite everything, it seems to me that the primary cause was that the Coast Guard Dash-8 should not have been on the runway. It was only ever instructed to "Hold Short" and never received further instruction to "Line up and wait" on the active runway. That is the human error that caused the accident. Perhaps the reason the preliminary report was so slow was that the Japanese Government slowed things down, not being in a hurry to admit that it was responsible?!
I believe the wording from the ATC was non standard (definitely not « hold short »), and the ATC didn’t object to the crew not repeating their message for verification. The crew understood they were cleared to align on the runway and wait. And they didn’t even bother to listen to the radio for other traffic, nor most importantly to visually check the approach path themselves.
Many unprofessional and negligent actions on both sides.
This is the point or day where aviation starts with a big 💥
the Dash-8 is a De Havilland Canada aircraft, not a Bombardier aircraft. Longview bought the aircraft type and the "de havilland" brand during Bombardier's liquidation. De Havilland Canada would have been the one consulted by JTSB as aircraft builder since Bombardier Commercial Aviation no longer exists, and what is left of Bombardier after the corporate liquidation is only the business jets which Bombardier Corp couldn't liquidate due to no interested buyers. Business jets is saddled with much of the debt left by commercial aviation, transportation and aerostructures.
These accidents are irrefutable proof controlers are lazy or overwhelmed. They never suffer from a stupid lack of situational awareness. The pathetic excuse for see and avoid responsibility is always on the flight crew and these cases prove overwhelming the level of carelessness by pilots and controlers. When I fly any airplane it is on me to question controlers and doubt if other pilots are looking out for traffic.
The passengers suffers with terrible in injuries and add to the mayhem with their loads of carry on crap. Luggage belongs anywhere except the passenger cabin!!
Oh calm down. The ATC were most definitely overwhelmed as it clearly mentions in the report. It was a natural disaster response timeline. And situational awareness is definitely a thing. Most crashes are a combination of factors, not just one. Hence crash reports are pages and pages long, takes a long time to investigate, compile and recommend.
Dumbest comment I have read in a while.
Excellent professional video thank you much appreciated normally you don’t find out the results of airline accident investigations. As a retired highly experienced senior professional from the electricity power generation industry with extensive operational and safety experience I am totally appalled at what happened how bad can things get I don’t feel safe flying anymore. Also to take 1 year to produce only the preliminary report is not acceptable far too long.
I’m still horrified by how quickly the aircraft simply disappeared in the fire
It didn't disappear "quickly", you need to do some research..........
When we look closely, an aircraft isn't very 'substantial,' really - is it? It's like a thin, aluminum 'balloon' (mms thick skin) containing very fragile people.
It actually disappeared very slowly. The captain left the aircraft 18 minutes after the crash. That’s how long it took for the fire to reach the cabin
@MrSchwabentier I thought the pilots might have some fault here
@@AnetaMihaylova-d6fbut the fault would fall on the JCG crew, not so much on the JAL crew... and since the pilot of that JCG Dash-8 survived the accident, he'll have to bear the guilt of his mistake for the rest of his days... same with the ATC team that day.
A full year to just release a preliminary report is kind of a joke. Japan’s civil aviation accident investigative agency must up its game and rapidly issue conclusions and mostly recommendations. This accident shows a total lack of professionalism from both the coast guard pilots and the airport ATC. This could have resulted in way more fatal casualties.
Time for thermal cameras for night time flying.... Also that time should've been 10 years before the first cars came with one over 20 years ago. I guess even night vision would work. Radar would work through weather too.
so the ATC was at fault not the pilots.
What about the China Eastern Flight that crashed nearly 3 years ago?
CCP says, nothing to see here.
IS JAPAN COMEDY USA
Visibility was not limited that day. Even in the video you can see the lights on the far side of Tokyo Bay.
Yes, but visibility actually is hindered by too many lights. It’s very hard to spot a few position lights of an aircraft against the hundreds of runway lights.
Tròn 1 năm luôn
I have a question NOT related to this report, but also to do with safety, I suppose. With (for example) a flight number including 9, why do they pronounce it as a niner instead of nine?
@@arienoordzij3823 in Germany the word ‘nein’ is a similar pronunciation to nine. To avoid confusion they use “niner”
It's radio speaks under common guidance to avoid confusion or mishearing. 1 is pronounced won, 3- tree, and 9 niner. Check the NATO alphabet for a similar reason.
@@Tyleraviator99 I know that, but we speak English in aviation world, don't we? Well, we should, if I'm correct! But thanks for your comment! 👍
@@arienoordzij3823 I mean if they are natives there is a chance they may speak their native language. But to my knowledge that’s why we use niner
@@Tyleraviator99 👍 Thanks!
And what exactly was the reason???
Still investigating.
It begs the question whether such humanitarian / military missions should be carried out from major int'l airports but rather from air force bases .
There are plenty of commercial airports where the Coast Guard, Air Force or even an Air Ambulance service is based out of for a region, simply because there isn't the space/money to have a separate facility.
I was surprised myself to learn that the Japan Cost Guard has a facility and hangar at Haneda, but if you consider that it's the closest major airport to Tokyo Bay, a very busy shipping and fishing area, then it makes a lot of sense.
There is really no reason that they should not be allowed to use an international airport.
This crew was quite unprofessional and not focused, which is dangerous in any airport.
So this video does not make sense?
3:23 minute video which tells me exactly what I could figure out by myself on the day of the accident
Did you receive any adsense revenue? I'm guessing not
Another runway incursion
Extremely tragic, particularly when the airport has a parallel runway on the other side of the airport that could have been used for departures instead of trying to 'squeeze' this (and no doubt other) departures in between arrivals. One runway for arrivals and one for departures and this wouldn't have happened.
BONNÉE ANNÉE 2025 aux familles des vixtimes !
tomorrow we get to hear about the 1 year aniversery about the gayest thing happened with Alaska Airline flight 1282
I still wait for Mr AI to enter.
Megaphones. Really. That sounds cartoonish.
The intercom system on the Airbus was essentially destroyed in the immediate aftermath of the crash, thus the use of megaphones, which is part of the emergency equipment used by many airlines in such an event.
@kristoffermangila emergency equipment?
Life rafts? Check.
Oxygen? Check.
Megaphones? Wait, megaphones? Yeah, do we got em? Uhhh... check I guess.
Boeing at its best to degrade airbus just because the world now knows BOEING is fucked
?????
in terms of blame, i would say coast guard and the ATC is equally to blame. So more like 45% coast guard fault, 45% ATC fault and 10% A350 fault
I wouldn’t blame the a350 crew, because at night it’s near impossible to see the aircraft from behind against the runway lights, this was proven when a south west plane hit by a USair plane in LAX
Its no more the A350s fault than the fault of anything else, like the Graf Zeppelin for instance........
how the hell is the A350 10% to blame?? The parked plane was invisible and the pilots coming into land trusted that ATC knew what the hell they were doing!!
6 minutes to open the doors is negligent.
With fuel fire raging on both sides, I think they did just fine taking time to assess the situation before deciding which doors were safe to evacuate from.
Besides the cabin interphone had been disabled by the crash damage so the cabin crew had trouble communicating with each other.
@@joso5554 Everyone survived, true. However, fuel fed fire has a nasty habit of spreading and spreading fast.
The passengers were lucky that they were flying in an Airbus. Who knows how many would've made it out if it was a flying coffin built by Boeing
probably would have been the same outcome
when I compare this accident with the Jeju one, Airbus is clearly ahead in safety, by 1000 to 1 ratio
That comparison is nonsense. That‘s like crashtesting two cars, one into a motorbike, one into a truck and then deriving conclusions which one is safer
@@MrSchwabentierI finally will agree with you
Sigh...
Doesn't matter which aircraft manufacturer it is, have any aircraft hit what that Jeju 737-800 hit and you're going to have a high number of fatalities.
if that jeju flight was being operated by an a320 it would have turned out the exact same way
@@animegamingdude Maybe even worse, in accidents, the A320 has been proven a eggshell...
First here
Typical Japanese lack of efficiency and bureaucratic bullshit. One year to produce just a preliminary report is not acceptable.
you said the actual truth
😅... It's a normal time for such reports. Some investigations took two to five years.
@@bogdanmihai7106 No you’re thinking of the final report.
@CactusBravo42 yes, the final one took many years. Maybe they wanted to be sure of the things they communicate. It was clear from the beginning it was human error not hardware issue.
Think you're getting hung up on the term preliminary report, given the size and depth of the report I think it can be better described as an interim report. Everybody else doesn't have to follow the NTSB descriptors or usual timelines.