All Things New - Fiona and Terryl Givens

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In this episode, we spoke with Fiona and Terryl Givens about their new book, "All Things New: Rethinking Sin, Salvation, and Everything in Between."
This book has the potential to really change lives. In it, Fiona and Terryl trace the roots of our religious vocabulary and show how many of these words have been unmoored from their original foundation - and how so many traditions that have been carried forward from hundreds, or thousands of years ago are still damaging us today. They then dive into specific ideas for how we might reformulate our language in healthy and inspiring ways.
This book is healing and hopeful, even paradigm shifting and we believe you won’t be able to put it down. You can pick up a copy for yourself, or for family and friends at Deseret Book, or on Amazon, Audible, and Apple Books. We’re so grateful for Terryl and Fiona and the amazing work they’ve done here.
Our conversation with them was really inspiring for us as well, and we loved hearing more about how the idea for the book originated and what Fiona and Terryl hope people get out of it. We hope you enjoy this conversation!

[@RaeannPeck]

Six years plus years ago when our son died suddenly and tragically, he had fallen from his temple covenants. He had served a faithful mission and had extended twice. He married in the temple and had a family. I was devastated, wondering where he was; wondering if he was in a place of darkness. That tormented me more than his death. But God was good to me and in time revealed the desperate yearnings of my heart to be assured that there is still hope eternally for my son's eternal happiness. Indeed, God allowed me to see that he is happy.
Soon after his passing I read THE GOD WHO WEEPS and found the stirrings of hope; so much hope that I sought with all my heart, the knowledge and comfort God has given. God is far more loving, and gracious that we can comprehend.
PS. Kindly Fiona even responded to my messages on Facebook. I have been so blessed by the Givens.

[@Kodyunscripted]

Just ordered so I can learn more!

[@lampim4]

Thank you Terryl and Fiona ! You have opened my eyes and heart to see and feel love that our heavenly parents teach to us trough Christ and what we should show to our sisters and brothers.

[@fivekidsand1]

Thank you for this wonderful podcast. I just finished All Things New and wanted to dive in and learn more from these inspired authors. It was soul warming to see both the authors and host interact as loving couples who share light and love.

[@deannavavrinec8259]

Faith Matters does such wonderful work! I love this conversation and the vistas that it opens up. Thanks for providing a platform for learning and contemplation.

[@michaelwilwand8036]

Wow you guys this is so good! I love these two. The Christ that Heals is such an important theological exposition. I especially loved chapter 11 of that book, and you guys discussed some of those things here. Thanks for having the Givens on for this discussion

[@mrplur]

First off that introduction with all that info was done in under 1 minute! Respect. Reading the book as a believing exmormon (believing in that the restored gospel is not what the church is teaching today, or at least my heart has been telling me that for over a decade).

[@32cmenow]

Such a fantastic conversation!

[@oliviajohnson9772]

I was just searching for an interview about this book yesterday, and was literally just expressing to my husband my frustration that I hadn't been able to find one when I opened TH-cam and saw this. I love the Givens, but I need these interviews so I can put their book in it's proper priority order with the others in my to-read stack. Thank you!

[@queenoftiming]

This is so beautiful thank you so much. 💛 What was that talk that was referenced again about do we even need theology? I'd love to look it up!

[@PedroAOlavarria]

24:50 Mormon was also a man who, out of nessecity, lived his entire adult life involved in warfare. That had to have affected his worldview.

[@rondawilliams995]

Restoration

[@murrayhamilton6485]

Really enjoyed this, inspiring discussion and book!
I thought about the idea of if God could be surprised? (51:00)
I don’t think the question is about God’s Omniscience but rather about God’s agency. “When we repent… confess and forsake our sins, the Lord says He remembers them no more (D&C 58:42). It is not that He forgets; rather, in a remarkable way, it seems He chooses not to remember them…” (Elder G. W. Gong, Oct 2021). If that is true of the past surely God could also choose what he remembers in the future. If so the “eternities can unfold before [Him]… in ways that can delight and surprise [Him] (Givens, All Things New, p87).

[@nextooperfect]

In considering the omniscience of God in balance with human agency, I have subscribed to the notion that while we are not puppets, God's foreknowledge facilitates celestial orchestrations of our anticipated choices far in advance....to the good of all involved in any given piece of the eternal puzzle. Even in my acknowledged limited view, it is not inconceivable to me as I consider the gross unfairnesses and disparities between and perpetrated by mortals in this earthly sojourn, that there were many advanced spirits who humbly stepped up and chose and declared, as did our Savior, "Here am I; send me!" to a given place in the eternal plan....to suffer for the sakes of others and facilitate their opportunities to learn, grow, and develop. The omniscience of God does not preclude or violate or preempt agency. Rather it facilitates it. And may I add my confidence that the way a passionate God can witness and endure the atrocities we perpetrate on one another in our ignorance and selfishness is because of His confidence in being able to wholly and correctly fix all that is shattered. Also.. agency and our OWN PERSONAL experience of our choices is so germaine and critical to us as children of God being able to become like our Heavenly Parents that there simply is no other way. We need opportunity to reveal ourselves not to our omniscient Parentage but rather to ourselves.

[@redhotsnow14]

I love all of this, but one thing strikes a discordant chord: the idea that we can surprise God. I can understand why people aren't comfortable with the idea that God knows everything, including everything we will do. But the Scriptures make it very clear that God does not live in time as we do. Everything is a panorama of present to him. I personally don't find it comforting that God could be surprised, and that at the end of the day he might say to us "oops, I got that one wrong."
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[@LrbinMT]

51:00 can He be surprised NO! You are looking at eternity from a mortal view point. glory of God is intelligence, D&C 93:36. God’s work and glory, to bring to pass immortality and eternal life of man, Moses 1:39. I would think God has better things to do than be surprised. see God, Omniscience of - past, present, and future are continually before the Lord, D&C 130:7. God knows all things, there is not anything except he knows it, 2 Ne. 9:20 (Morm. 8:17). God comprehends all things, Alma 26:35. God knows all things, being from everlasting to everlasting, Moro. 7:22. the Lord knows all things, D&C 38:2 (130:7). -