Y'know, Awful's Opinion can be very civil on a good day. I like it! Also, I love how much more expressive and dynamic the sprite animations are. Kudos!
@@FawfulsMinionCountdowns Dude, you're nailing it with the character expression, both through the way you express your voice and the way the animation is done. Keep it up, pal!
Thought I would add one more to the Messed counter: The amount of species, or rather lack thereof, you can play as. I didn’t know Sega leaked Splatoon’s Rise of the Mammalians early, because that’s what we got for the Avatar. Barring bird, every single one of the Avatars are mammals. I wanted to play as a reptile/lizard. But no. Where’s my lizards? Where’s my fish? Where’s my bugs? My Bugs! *My Bugs!* And on top of that. They give us the choice to play as a Wolf or Dog. Dogs are domesticated wolves. Forces gave us the same animal twice.
I’ll go ahead and add my own complaint to the pile: The Wispon weapons, while a great idea conceptually, don’t look or feel particularly well-thought-out in terms of actual gameplay; Oftentimes ending up as little more than an equippable one-note gimmick. Take, for example, the Lightning Wispon…not only could it have easily replaced the Grappling Hook as your main means of level traversal, but it also could’ve been used grab onto smaller enemies and toss em around lasso-style. But instead, all it does is a basic sweeping attack, and *sometimes* act as a poor man’s Light Dash. Now granted, not *all* of the blame can be laid on the Wispons themselves; The overly-constricted, hallway design of most of the levels rarely permits exploration or experimentation with the Wispons as is - and a large chunk of the associated Wisps they’re attached to have always suffered from being one-note gimmicks since Colors - but it’s hard not to feel like SEGA and Sonic Team didn’t really try very hard to make the Wispons particularly fun to use.
I knew from the start that this was going to be Red's first victory. But it was a lot closer than I expected. You can really find the best in every game.
For me, I feel like the main connecting through line for all of these games is Sonic. I just find him so endearing as a character and so charming that I can’t help but love him. It’s like, sure, the company he’s a part of can be a bit shady at times and ingenuine but… he isn’t. Even when this franchise was at its lowest I just think Sonic himself is such a fun and loveable character that sticks with you. I think that’s why we stick with him even at his worst. And why it’s so satisfying to see him succeed in Frontiers. The story is amazing in Frontiers but just seeing Sonic be praised and loved and cheered for in the public eye is just so satisfying because, he deserves it. When he slips he doesn’t sit there in embarrassment. He keeps on going. It’s like One Way Dream said. “They said we’d break. They said we’d lose. But here we are! What else is new?”
Honestly I really like the characterization of Lawful and Awful here, fleshes them both out as characters a good bit honestly, plus the video in general is just really entertaining. May be my new favorite Blessed or Messed, props
Talking of Infinite, personally, you wanna see this cast in a light that doesn't make you wanna play tag with an oncoming rhino, watch Ask the Sonic Heroes, they recently added Infinite and he's WAY more dignified there than he ever was in the game.
Luckily after this game came out, we would eventually get the IDW comics which starts not long after the events of Forces and does the incredible, by having solid writing for every iconic character we know and love, a gripping story that's got twists and turns, new characters the fans are already loving, making the Zeti NOT SUCK AS VILLAINS, and the action scenes, it's no secret why Sega hired Ian Flynn to write the story for Frontiers
Honestly Sonic Forces could’ve been a great Sonic Game if Big Red Button wasn’t actually involved with and Sega didn’t lie about who’s in charge of production.
Definitely one of the more mixed bags in the sonic series. It's not that it's bad. Its just pretty clear that there was only 3 developers in level design, and the fact the physics designer was new blood, that honestly should have been watched over rather than mania
If I can give the mishandling of tails in Forces one thing, its definitely that Frontiers actually made it semi work into Tail's character arc in Frontiers. They could have easily just retconned it, but nope they actually managed to spin it into part of his development
I can’t remember why I dropped off of watching your content for so long. You still hold up with hilarious brain-blasting dialogue, the energy of a coked-up Dr. Nefarious sprinkled with a jester-zested Zim, and a heart of Super Sonic gold. I look forward to your future content, as well as checking out all the videos I’ve missed!
So glad to finally have another Blessed or Messed! This is by a long shot the best review style ever conceived. And it’s nice to see Lawful’s Winion and Awful’s Opinion getting along for once. (And that Megamind reference was great 😂)
BLESSED OR MESSED LETS GO these are always incredible to watch and someone's already said this but MAN the expressions just keeps getting better with every video
On that argument of the characters… Yeah, for the most part the ball was dropped. But I think Silver got spared somewhat. He actually had the balls to do something and fight Infinite himself, which snowballed into making him an unknowing MVP in the war.
Granted, he didn't win (I think), but at least he tried to defeat infinite. I remember not liking silver when I was younger, but he grew on me as I got older, knowing he was the only one besides Sonic and the player (and shadow) to actually fight infinite out of all the other characters just makes him that much cooler to me.
@@johnathanford403 Before Sonic showed up to tag in, Silver got slammed into a wall. But honestly, Silver looked like he could have kept going for a little longer. The dude is so underrated. Though I think he’s been on more of an upswing in the fandom ever since that Death Battle with Trunks.
@rodrickgoldberg2324 That's nice to know. I'll admit my first introduction to Silver wasn't in '06 but rather mario and Sonic at the Olympic games for wii, so I didn't understand his significance till recently other than he was a new character to the series, and I still don't fully understand because I never played sonic '06 and then I got confused with the hatred of '06 and just left it be. I didn't even watch trunks vs. silver, so my new appreciation for him wasn't from that he just grew on me after a while, but yeah, I guess he is underrated. I remember liking shadow a lot, and then Sonic and Silver shortly followed. I wasn't very aware of characters like Silver as a child, and as a teenager, I didn't notice or appreciate characters like I do now, so characters like tails, knuckles, and Amy just got pushed to the backseat unintentionally or not it just happened. Shadow and Blaze took a lot of my attention for a while, so while I still like them, I've started to notice and like other characters more as well. While we are talking about silver and how underrated he is, I wanna know what your thoughts on silver were when he was first introduced and when you first saw him. If that's okay, that is.
How's this for one last kick in the teeth: Sega claimed that Sonic Team would be the ones behind Forces, but they were just overseeing the development, which was actually being handled by Big Red Button. AKA the people behind Rise of Lyric. In other words, they lied about the people behind the game while hiring a team that failed the first time only for said team to fail again. For the game meant to be the continuation of the franchise's 25th anniversary celebration. Where's my cyanide?
Actually Tails was letting himself get in danger , to bring Sonic back to rescue him. Which is actually morally wrong to reward bad logic , just like Tails's arch in Lost World. So the deeper you understand this game , the worse it becomes. Characters without character was the tip of the iceberg.
Great job on the win Awful, For me I remember when I first played it I liked it but now it's a ok game literally making your character being the biggest reason why I like it. Great video as always Fawful 🌟
Lawful and Awful's banter won't ever top being entertaining. And man, DrDark7 actually having an evil side is atreat, shows how much he digs the gimmick. And yes, Forces was a mess
Been following the channel for years and, everytime your writing, charisma and humor never fail. I don’t even have to know jack shit about the game to enjoy your content.
This has to be the best episode of blessed or messed I've ever seen. And special shout-out of thanks to DrDark7... It was awesome seeing you adding your own opinions on both sides of Sonic Forces~ You definitely made the video even more enjoyable! Congratulations to the two of you and I hope you all stay safe~
I call Blessed or Messed something different It is related to Undertale AU Dream VS. Nightmare Same rules Dream explains good things about game Nightmare explains bad things about game Whoever gains most points wins
nah. unless sega gives them a reason to show up, all we really need is salky and thats *just* because she's iconic (+ would give us another girl in the cast who could reliably and consistently keep up with sonic)
y'know, Awful and... Nega-Doc's points in this video made me truly realize: this game is *literally* Sonic Fanfic Sim i'd go over the nitty-gritty, but this show's very own Mean Bean and his accompanying guest Dark Star went and laid it out already
wait, Eggman wins? takes over? resistance fighters? sounds like the Sonic archie comics and the Sonic SatAM series, Robotnik won, took over the world with roboticized critters, Sonic and Princess Sally make a resistance fighter team, and we once were gonna get a game based on Sonic SatAM but it got cancelled
I know the game was far from stellar, but nonetheless I will defend it with my dying breath for one reason, one single thing keeping this thing out of infamy with the likes of 06 and Boom... IT IS FUN! The gameplay alone is what saves this game for me! The story I had already heard was a dumpster fire beforehand, so when I encountered it, it was inoffensively underwhelming at best. But the game just feels good to play, and the avatar creator is a fun addition to the modern sonic formula. And I can say with full confidence that I prefer this game's physics to Sonic Generations! Don't get me wrong, I loved Sonic Generations, there were parts of that game that, no joke, made me ACTUALLY THROW MY CONTROLLER (mostly the classic sonic segments). I could only think of one, MAYBE two times I got frustrated playing forces.
Honestly, Infinite is my absolute favorite character design in the franchise. Could his actual character itself have been better? Well, duh, of course. But, I still adore him. Hopefully, he can get another chance in the future. He can still fight.
Nice episode, once again. Though I was a tiny bit surprised by the result, seeing how this game ended up in your last top ten. Do you still put it there or would you change it if you could? Just curious. I personally enjoyed the game and I remember liking some of bosses and level designs. Still I understand the final score you gave the game. Good work. MAY WE MEET AGAIN!
Making us wait a whole damn year for another Blessed or Messed? I wanted Chortles and finally got it again. I hope it doesn't take as long for the next one.
Tbh. It was about time to see Awfuls Opinion win it. Congrats! Hopefully y’all have a great day and Good luck on the next game you two. I hope you don’t find something worse than Sticker Star. ; )
Well now, Sonic Forces.....honsestly this game is blessed for me. While the story and Classic Sonic gameplay aren't nothing to write home about(even though I don't play theses games for the story), I still enjoy the gameplay of Modern Sonic and the Avatar, jam to soundtrack, and appreciate the visuals that even look good on Switch. I would gladly give a fist bump for this game.
And now a preview of the Blessed or Messed on Scarlet and Violet: Lawful’s Winion: Say the line, Awful. 😀 Awful’s Opinion: The Dex cut’s still around. And I hate not having the Pokémon I like in it. 😒 Lawful & the featured Patron: YAA-😄 Awful’s Opinion: Finish that cheer and I’ll show you team Rocket splitting again! 😡 *5 points gets added to Awful’s Headgear*
Unfortunately that’s not gonna happen for a good while. There’s an insurmountable amount of patreon requested topics and his own projects he wants to go through + Logan’s set sort of a limit in terms of talking about ScoVi until both the DLCs drop.
There are some games that I consider to be "guilty pleasures"; some examples are Donkey Kong Barrel Blast, Kirby Star Allies, and Mario Sports Superstars. After playing it last summer, Sonic Forces is the next game to add to that pile. Don't get me wrong; the game has a lot of holes in quality. Infinite was laughably easy to fight and poorly executed as a character, Tails and the supporting cast were unfairly helpless, and the game is ridiculously quick to finish. Still...I enjoy the easier difficulty despite the war-torn aesthetic of the story. Speaking of the story, while it's definitely a more serious tone than most of the Boost Era games...it still stays mostly on the funny side, particularly with Sonic and his wit. As for anything else...I like that Shadow is playable in some of the main stages and fighting Zavok and Metal Sonic is kinda enjoyable. Anyway...I think that I can agree on this ranking. Forces is a fun time, but it's not something that I would recommend to any veteran Sonic fan. Even as one who proclaims Colors as my favorite Sonic game, Forces is just okay at best. Nice job!
Intro was hysterical. Could always do top 5 best AND worst sonic games... Think about it. You could just do... this, but as a review, game by game. Complicated? Sure, but we'd all watch the SHIT out of that.
IMO, this game is hella messed, though I can commend it for a couple things, mostly in that I really liked the Avatar customization. It's not much at the end of the day, but the personalization is nice, and Sonic treating your Avatar like they are a part of the family is really sweet. Still, there's so many mind-boggling issues that the game really should've not had,: Why did Sega force (heh) Classic Sonic into this shit and tie Christain Whitehead's hands to make Mania fit into the canon? Why were the levels so poorly designed and linear? Though nothing, and I mean NOTHING is as insulting as seeing all the characters get flandarized to high hell. Sonic Boom Rise of Lyric also had this issue on a very similar degree, but that game's a whole mess in of itself. And Infinite is one of the WORST fictional villains I've ever had the displeasure of facing against. SO much wasted potential, and it's disgusting I'm really glad Frontiers came around and cleaned up so much of where Forces went wrong, even if the game itself is not perfect.
The video was great. I'm happy Awful finally got a win. But can you please go back to the old title card? The one where Lawful and Awful were a part of the cover art? I liked that image and wish to see more like it.
I mean, the proportion of good to bad in Scarlet and Violet would be kinda tough to made a video on I think, I doubt Awful would have much more to say than "it's buggy" and "Geeta's fight was painfully easy" BDSP on the other hand...
I’m happy for awful getting the W though I had a feeling it would happen… as much as I love Sonic even I have to admit that forces was a sad miss for me… it’s ok at best if I play just sonic and my oc and ignore everything else. On paper it had a lot of potential just didn’t really fly
to me, the game is a blessed the custom character does a lot for me i always prefered the world and characters more than the games (heck, i like the Deadly 6) and the parts people are bothered with the most, i have reasons for Q: why doesn't Sonic look tortured? A: Eggman didn't do physical torture, he did mental torture (fits him more) + Sonic's cool head, and trust in his friends makes him kinda immune Q: why is Classic Sonic from an alternate dimension, not from the past? A: 1 word, Mania, that game isn't in Modern Sonic's past, Mania is in a split-timeline, aka an alternate dimension Q: why was Tails scared of Chaos 0?! A: he simply wasn't in the right mindset, keep in mind that he is 8 years old, and when an 8 year old sees his hero/big brother get destroyed, yeah that is gonna mess with their mind, he was able to stay cool, by doing what he likes, fixing machines (aka Omega), but 1 moment out of it, and he is back to being mentally scarred
Some extra criticism at forces the game can be beat in 3 hours and some level design is so automated that for example the first level can be done in almost all boost and a singular jump
I've never been more excited to hear a man argue with himself.
It's one of the best parts of this series! I also like it when the fans end up being part of the conversation. Makes it feel inclusive, y'know?
double the fun
Eyo I did not expect the pin LOL
well there ya go
Agreed
Props to Awful for finally getting a W
Awful had some Ws before. The Star Wars Episode 1 video and the Sticker Star Video.
@@blizzardforonline1954 That was before the character was created proper, though.
@@FawfulsMinionCountdowns I meant in spirit, but still.
He almost had one with the Let’s Go games as well
@@Shantae1188 Until it all came to a tie.
I love the part where they say Sonic has been tortured for months and then we get to him and he's 100% fine.
yea that was kinda dumb on sega's part
Too be fair, that was an unnecessary addition in the english version, but I'm still holding it against the game for allowing that to be put in.
Y'know, Awful's Opinion can be very civil on a good day. I like it! Also, I love how much more expressive and dynamic the sprite animations are. Kudos!
I am trying to push for more expression, thank you for noticing!
@@FawfulsMinionCountdownsY'all did a Triple S-Tier job, expressing yourself Logan. CLAPS. 👏👏👏👏
@@FawfulsMinionCountdowns Dude, you're nailing it with the character expression, both through the way you express your voice and the way the animation is done. Keep it up, pal!
That ending was really nice. Awful looked so happy to finally win, glad he did.
heh yea finally
It was kinda obvious he would.
@@jameslawrenson1208 Yeah, but he never wins regardless.
Thought I would add one more to the Messed counter: The amount of species, or rather lack thereof, you can play as.
I didn’t know Sega leaked Splatoon’s Rise of the Mammalians early, because that’s what we got for the Avatar. Barring bird, every single one of the Avatars are mammals.
I wanted to play as a reptile/lizard. But no. Where’s my lizards? Where’s my fish? Where’s my bugs? My Bugs! *My Bugs!*
And on top of that. They give us the choice to play as a Wolf or Dog. Dogs are domesticated wolves. Forces gave us the same animal twice.
I’ll go ahead and add my own complaint to the pile:
The Wispon weapons, while a great idea conceptually, don’t look or feel particularly well-thought-out in terms of actual gameplay; Oftentimes ending up as little more than an equippable one-note gimmick.
Take, for example, the Lightning Wispon…not only could it have easily replaced the Grappling Hook as your main means of level traversal, but it also could’ve been used grab onto smaller enemies and toss em around lasso-style.
But instead, all it does is a basic sweeping attack, and *sometimes* act as a poor man’s Light Dash.
Now granted, not *all* of the blame can be laid on the Wispons themselves; The overly-constricted, hallway design of most of the levels rarely permits exploration or experimentation with the Wispons as is - and a large chunk of the associated Wisps they’re attached to have always suffered from being one-note gimmicks since Colors - but it’s hard not to feel like SEGA and Sonic Team didn’t really try very hard to make the Wispons particularly fun to use.
I knew from the start that this was going to be Red's first victory. But it was a lot closer than I expected. You can really find the best in every game.
For me, I feel like the main connecting through line for all of these games is Sonic. I just find him so endearing as a character and so charming that I can’t help but love him. It’s like, sure, the company he’s a part of can be a bit shady at times and ingenuine but… he isn’t. Even when this franchise was at its lowest I just think Sonic himself is such a fun and loveable character that sticks with you. I think that’s why we stick with him even at his worst. And why it’s so satisfying to see him succeed in Frontiers. The story is amazing in Frontiers but just seeing Sonic be praised and loved and cheered for in the public eye is just so satisfying because, he deserves it. When he slips he doesn’t sit there in embarrassment. He keeps on going. It’s like One Way Dream said. “They said we’d break. They said we’d lose. But here we are! What else is new?”
Honestly I really like the characterization of Lawful and Awful here, fleshes them both out as characters a good bit honestly, plus the video in general is just really entertaining.
May be my new favorite Blessed or Messed, props
thanks
I think this video could benefit greatly from subtitles. DrDark's voice was pretty hard to understand at times, especially with the evil filter.
sorry about that
Talking of Infinite, personally, you wanna see this cast in a light that doesn't make you wanna play tag with an oncoming rhino, watch Ask the Sonic Heroes, they recently added Infinite and he's WAY more dignified there than he ever was in the game.
That a fan game?
@@ManiacX1999a fan series of q@a asked by comments
sonic forced me to like the video
EVIL
Luckily after this game came out, we would eventually get the IDW comics which starts not long after the events of Forces and does the incredible, by having solid writing for every iconic character we know and love, a gripping story that's got twists and turns, new characters the fans are already loving, making the Zeti NOT SUCK AS VILLAINS, and the action scenes, it's no secret why Sega hired Ian Flynn to write the story for Frontiers
Honestly Sonic Forces could’ve been a great Sonic Game if Big Red Button wasn’t actually involved with and Sega didn’t lie about who’s in charge of production.
Definitely one of the more mixed bags in the sonic series.
It's not that it's bad.
Its just pretty clear that there was only 3 developers in level design, and the fact the physics designer was new blood, that honestly should have been watched over rather than mania
Missed this series! Glad to see you back.
Sonic Forces me to watch Fawful's Minions videos until my eyeballs melt and eardrums explode.
Do you not want to?
Sonic forces everyone to play the game
If I can give the mishandling of tails in Forces one thing, its definitely that Frontiers actually made it semi work into Tail's character arc in Frontiers. They could have easily just retconned it, but nope they actually managed to spin it into part of his development
I’ve missed this series!
I can’t remember why I dropped off of watching your content for so long.
You still hold up with hilarious brain-blasting dialogue, the energy of a coked-up Dr. Nefarious sprinkled with a jester-zested Zim, and a heart of Super Sonic gold.
I look forward to your future content, as well as checking out all the videos I’ve missed!
So glad to finally have another Blessed or Messed! This is by a long shot the best review style ever conceived. And it’s nice to see Lawful’s Winion and Awful’s Opinion getting along for once. (And that Megamind reference was great 😂)
That ending was surprisingly sweet, good work guys. 👍
BLESSED OR MESSED LETS GO these are always incredible to watch and someone's already said this but MAN the expressions just keeps getting better with every video
Well done, a classic return to form for the Fawfuls of Red and Blue. Looking forward to more!
On that argument of the characters… Yeah, for the most part the ball was dropped. But I think Silver got spared somewhat. He actually had the balls to do something and fight Infinite himself, which snowballed into making him an unknowing MVP in the war.
Granted, he didn't win (I think), but at least he tried to defeat infinite. I remember not liking silver when I was younger, but he grew on me as I got older, knowing he was the only one besides Sonic and the player (and shadow) to actually fight infinite out of all the other characters just makes him that much cooler to me.
@@johnathanford403
Before Sonic showed up to tag in, Silver got slammed into a wall. But honestly, Silver looked like he could have kept going for a little longer.
The dude is so underrated. Though I think he’s been on more of an upswing in the fandom ever since that Death Battle with Trunks.
@rodrickgoldberg2324 That's nice to know. I'll admit my first introduction to Silver wasn't in '06 but rather mario and Sonic at the Olympic games for wii, so I didn't understand his significance till recently other than he was a new character to the series, and I still don't fully understand because I never played sonic '06 and then I got confused with the hatred of '06 and just left it be. I didn't even watch trunks vs. silver, so my new appreciation for him wasn't from that he just grew on me after a while, but yeah, I guess he is underrated. I remember liking shadow a lot, and then Sonic and Silver shortly followed. I wasn't very aware of characters like Silver as a child, and as a teenager, I didn't notice or appreciate characters like I do now, so characters like tails, knuckles, and Amy just got pushed to the backseat unintentionally or not it just happened. Shadow and Blaze took a lot of my attention for a while, so while I still like them, I've started to notice and like other characters more as well. While we are talking about silver and how underrated he is, I wanna know what your thoughts on silver were when he was first introduced and when you first saw him. If that's okay, that is.
How's this for one last kick in the teeth: Sega claimed that Sonic Team would be the ones behind Forces, but they were just overseeing the development, which was actually being handled by Big Red Button. AKA the people behind Rise of Lyric. In other words, they lied about the people behind the game while hiring a team that failed the first time only for said team to fail again.
For the game meant to be the continuation of the franchise's 25th anniversary celebration.
Where's my cyanide?
Awful's first Animated W.
Surprisingly wholesome. Good on ya, Awful. And thanks for another good video.
And finally Awful gets a dub, the part with the Megamind clip was genius
Actually Tails was letting himself get in danger , to bring Sonic back to rescue him.
Which is actually morally wrong to reward bad logic , just like Tails's arch in Lost World.
So the deeper you understand this game , the worse it becomes.
Characters without character was the tip of the iceberg.
I never expected Awful's first win since his conception to come with so much character development 😅
Great job on the win Awful,
For me I remember when I first played it I liked it but now it's a ok game literally making your character being the biggest reason why I like it.
Great video as always Fawful 🌟
Lawful and Awful's banter won't ever top being entertaining. And man, DrDark7 actually having an evil side is atreat, shows how much he digs the gimmick.
And yes, Forces was a mess
Heh thanks
Been following the channel for years and, everytime your writing, charisma and humor never fail. I don’t even have to know jack shit about the game to enjoy your content.
It's so much fun hearing you argue with yourself lmao
don't we all
I can’t wait to start binging all of these.
Hope you enjoyed the video that me and fawful made
I did!
good to hear
W vid, keep up the good work dude!
Been a while since I've seen this series and it talks about the perfect game for it!
Huh. Was honestly surprised by the outcome. Pretty cool video, overall.
This has to be the best episode of blessed or messed I've ever seen.
And special shout-out of thanks to DrDark7...
It was awesome seeing you adding your own opinions on both sides of Sonic Forces~ You definitely made the video even more enjoyable!
Congratulations to the two of you and I hope you all stay safe~
hey thanks man
@@DrDark7 You are very welcome
Wait, was this really the first one that was fully declared as "messed?"
He made a BoM on Sticker Star. Sticker Star got a “messed”.
@@uzumazin5099 Why was there a reaction about him "finally" winning then?
@@Moss_Dude
No. Those “messed” were before Awful was made. Hopefully, we get another BoM video where Awful gets a W.
@@uzumazin5099 Ohhh I forgot the dual-personality thing wasn't in the series from the beginning
I call Blessed or Messed something different
It is related to Undertale AU
Dream VS. Nightmare
Same rules
Dream explains good things about game
Nightmare explains bad things about game
Whoever gains most points wins
Awful’s joyness at the beginning made me crack a smile and got me laughing^^
Great video as always^^
I dont think i was ready to hear Ekas Portal name dropped in a Fawfuls Minion video
The biggest sin this game makes, is that it should’ve included the Freedom Fighters
nah. unless sega gives them a reason to show up, all we really need is salky and thats *just* because she's iconic (+ would give us another girl in the cast who could reliably and consistently keep up with sonic)
Huh so that's what the Messed Victory sounds like.
Noice to see Blessed or Messed again. Love the happiness Awful had during this episode.
Yeah he should win more
0:53 … wow. This took a bit longer to make than he thought huh.
y'know, Awful and... Nega-Doc's points in this video made me truly realize:
this game is *literally* Sonic Fanfic Sim
i'd go over the nitty-gritty, but this show's very own Mean Bean and his accompanying guest Dark Star went and laid it out already
hehe Nega-Doc. Interesting name
Awful finally got the Dub. Let’s goooooo
Thank you, youtube, for not fuckin recommending this video to me in my subscriber feed
wait, Eggman wins? takes over? resistance fighters? sounds like the Sonic archie comics and the Sonic SatAM series, Robotnik won, took over the world with roboticized critters, Sonic and Princess Sally make a resistance fighter team, and we once were gonna get a game based on Sonic SatAM but it got cancelled
Teddy Rossevelt in Yugioh drip. Great cant unsee THAT now
I know the game was far from stellar, but nonetheless I will defend it with my dying breath for one reason, one single thing keeping this thing out of infamy with the likes of 06 and Boom...
IT
IS
FUN!
The gameplay alone is what saves this game for me! The story I had already heard was a dumpster fire beforehand, so when I encountered it, it was inoffensively underwhelming at best. But the game just feels good to play, and the avatar creator is a fun addition to the modern sonic formula. And I can say with full confidence that I prefer this game's physics to Sonic Generations! Don't get me wrong, I loved Sonic Generations, there were parts of that game that, no joke, made me ACTUALLY THROW MY CONTROLLER (mostly the classic sonic segments). I could only think of one, MAYBE two times I got frustrated playing forces.
Saw it coming, but I'm still surprised, cheers to you awful 🥂
Jimmy Timmy Power Hour 💀
hehehe
Honestly, Infinite is my absolute favorite character design in the franchise. Could his actual character itself have been better? Well, duh, of course. But, I still adore him. Hopefully, he can get another chance in the future. He can still fight.
Crazy to think we’ve got 17 of these already
Nice episode, once again.
Though I was a tiny bit surprised by the result, seeing how this game ended up in your last top ten. Do you still put it there or would you change it if you could? Just curious.
I personally enjoyed the game and I remember liking some of bosses and level designs. Still I understand the final score you gave the game. Good work. MAY WE MEET AGAIN!
14:20 Hell yeah! The Red Squad continues to boast it's numbers!
3:20
The WHAT portal roleplay?
I-if its what i think i heard...
Holt shit awful.... you fucking slaughtered 06 in one clean simile.
Edit, took another look around that site... this insult hits even fucking harder.
This fame has some great music in it and some great charicter cameos
And some not so good charicters cough charmey
Making us wait a whole damn year for another Blessed or Messed? I wanted Chortles and finally got it again.
I hope it doesn't take as long for the next one.
It won't.
@@FawfulsMinionCountdowns Love the content, no doubt your daily life does make it harder to do videos, still appreciate it.
Yeah the final boss is just a carbon copy of the nega wisp armor, done twice
Tbh. It was about time to see Awfuls Opinion win it. Congrats! Hopefully y’all have a great day and Good luck on the next game you two. I hope you don’t find something worse than Sticker Star. ; )
Banjo Kazooie Nuts and Bolts
@@Jessica_Schweser that’s a vacation for Awfuls Opinion. Besides, the biggest disappointments list already on how much he dislikes it.
Logan is on a TEAR with these vids! 😎😎
Well now, Sonic Forces.....honsestly this game is blessed for me. While the story and Classic Sonic gameplay aren't nothing to write home about(even though I don't play theses games for the story), I still enjoy the gameplay of Modern Sonic and the Avatar, jam to soundtrack, and appreciate the visuals that even look good on Switch. I would gladly give a fist bump for this game.
Love your videos they bring joy to most of my day so are you going to review favorite Pokemon for scarlet and violet games or legends new evolutions
And now a preview of the Blessed or Messed on Scarlet and Violet:
Lawful’s Winion: Say the line, Awful. 😀
Awful’s Opinion: The Dex cut’s still around. And I hate not having the Pokémon I like in it. 😒
Lawful & the featured Patron: YAA-😄
Awful’s Opinion: Finish that cheer and I’ll show you team Rocket splitting again! 😡
*5 points gets added to Awful’s Headgear*
Unfortunately that’s not gonna happen for a good while.
There’s an insurmountable amount of patreon requested topics and his own projects he wants to go through + Logan’s set sort of a limit in terms of talking about ScoVi until both the DLCs drop.
@@TheMasterShowmanFMYep. Gotta be patient until ALL the juice is poured in the cup after all.
Awful finally won an episode, maybe someday he’ll fight in a blessed or messed on scarlet and violet
hehe yep
Watching Awful go on and on about the glitches and 1,000 steps evolutions will be profoundly satisfying.
FINALY AWFUL'S OPINION WON
There are some games that I consider to be "guilty pleasures"; some examples are Donkey Kong Barrel Blast, Kirby Star Allies, and Mario Sports Superstars. After playing it last summer, Sonic Forces is the next game to add to that pile.
Don't get me wrong; the game has a lot of holes in quality. Infinite was laughably easy to fight and poorly executed as a character, Tails and the supporting cast were unfairly helpless, and the game is ridiculously quick to finish.
Still...I enjoy the easier difficulty despite the war-torn aesthetic of the story. Speaking of the story, while it's definitely a more serious tone than most of the Boost Era games...it still stays mostly on the funny side, particularly with Sonic and his wit. As for anything else...I like that Shadow is playable in some of the main stages and fighting Zavok and Metal Sonic is kinda enjoyable.
Anyway...I think that I can agree on this ranking. Forces is a fun time, but it's not something that I would recommend to any veteran Sonic fan. Even as one who proclaims Colors as my favorite Sonic game, Forces is just okay at best.
Nice job!
Intro was hysterical.
Could always do top 5 best AND worst sonic games...
Think about it. You could just do... this, but as a review, game by game. Complicated? Sure, but we'd all watch the SHIT out of that.
Sonic Forces is a guilty pleasure for me. It may be mediocre at best as a game, but as a Sonic Fanfiction generator, it's SO much fun. 😂
IMO, this game is hella messed, though I can commend it for a couple things, mostly in that I really liked the Avatar customization. It's not much at the end of the day, but the personalization is nice, and Sonic treating your Avatar like they are a part of the family is really sweet.
Still, there's so many mind-boggling issues that the game really should've not had,:
Why did Sega force (heh) Classic Sonic into this shit and tie Christain Whitehead's hands to make Mania fit into the canon?
Why were the levels so poorly designed and linear?
Though nothing, and I mean NOTHING is as insulting as seeing all the characters get flandarized to high hell. Sonic Boom Rise of Lyric also had this issue on a very similar degree, but that game's a whole mess in of itself. And Infinite is one of the WORST fictional villains I've ever had the displeasure of facing against. SO much wasted potential, and it's disgusting
I'm really glad Frontiers came around and cleaned up so much of where Forces went wrong, even if the game itself is not perfect.
I'm the same way. To me, this is absolutely like 12 Blessed, and about 25 Messed
It forces you to hate it
Wonder what positives he managed to come up with
I actually would rather play the original sonic 06 than forces. At least that 06 had substance, and made an awesome fan game with project 06.
At least Sonic Frontiers redeems some inconsistencies with Tails.
Oh lord talk about playing with Fire.
God I remember how much hype they were doing with this game before it came out and then it dropped and just felt like… a wet fart.
I never saw them do the game did all the disappointing for me.
The video was great. I'm happy Awful finally got a win. But can you please go back to the old title card? The one where Lawful and Awful were a part of the cover art? I liked that image and wish to see more like it.
Mephiles > Infinite
What Infinite does have the very least is better theme.
Bit of a shot in the foot for the franchise, but I feel like Frontiers healed that up real quick with a Quick-Fix Ubercharge.
I know this isn’t really a game thing, but hey, at least forces had a good follow up with the IDW comics. Heck, they might even be canon!
Pretty much every modern Pokémon game makes for a Blessed of Messed
I mean, the proportion of good to bad in Scarlet and Violet would be kinda tough to made a video on I think, I doubt Awful would have much more to say than "it's buggy" and "Geeta's fight was painfully easy"
BDSP on the other hand...
So, if I'm counting the score currently, thats 14 wins for Lawful, and 3 for Awful.
15:10 WHEN WILL THE LIES END???
Sonic Forces You To Commit Warcrimes.
I love forces it is my favorite sonic game.(great video though)
I was expecting the score to be much lower
10:56 KID ICARUS UPRISING REFERENCE!!!
The Legend Of Zelda The Wind Waker - Blessed or Messed
I’m happy for awful getting the W though I had a feeling it would happen… as much as I love Sonic even I have to admit that forces was a sad miss for me… it’s ok at best if I play just sonic and my oc and ignore everything else. On paper it had a lot of potential just didn’t really fly
So would Dark's evil counterpart be named, like... NurseLight-7 or something?
heh that be funny
I enjoyed Sonic Forces. My friend did too.
to me, the game is a blessed
the custom character does a lot for me
i always prefered the world and characters more than the games (heck, i like the Deadly 6)
and the parts people are bothered with the most, i have reasons for
Q: why doesn't Sonic look tortured?
A: Eggman didn't do physical torture, he did mental torture (fits him more) + Sonic's cool head, and trust in his friends makes him kinda immune
Q: why is Classic Sonic from an alternate dimension, not from the past?
A: 1 word, Mania, that game isn't in Modern Sonic's past, Mania is in a split-timeline, aka an alternate dimension
Q: why was Tails scared of Chaos 0?!
A: he simply wasn't in the right mindset, keep in mind that he is 8 years old, and when an 8 year old sees his hero/big brother get destroyed, yeah that is gonna mess with their mind, he was able to stay cool, by doing what he likes, fixing machines (aka Omega), but 1 moment out of it, and he is back to being mentally scarred
What you said about Tails is something that pretty much every Forces devender has said already. This isn't new.
Some extra criticism at forces the game can be beat in 3 hours and some level design is so automated that for example the first level can be done in almost all boost and a singular jump
I enjoy the writing and banter. and the criticism and jokes are strong. however the lack of music is absolutely maddening.
Uh, what do you mean? There is music in the background.
Mostly wasn't audible and hard to listen to even with high quality speakers
@@forrestgnome7160 Not...from how I'm hearing it? I don't even know what to tell you.
@@FawfulsMinionCountdowns probably just old ears from listening to extensive breakcore. still a great video though.
Still waiting for that Pokemon games bdsp video or any Pokemon games