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Our favorite Vittoria Tires Combo!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ส.ค. 2024
- We've been rocking Vittoria tires for the last 6+ seasons and think we have found our favorite tire combo! Keep watching to learn why we think the Vittoria Mazza/Agarro combo is well suited for MA riding and beyond!
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Riding here in Colorado, the conditions from sandy to large stone and in between. I switched to Mazza front and back and have done some stiff climbing and the traction is incredible and never let me down.
Sorry, just seeing this comment now! Big fan of the Mazza front/rear which is where I ended up switching to since its a longer travel bike now!
I just installed the Mazza on the Rear of my V1 Ripmo and am running an Assaggi in the Front. Right away I noticed that it rolls faster. I live in the SF Bay Area so I'll see how it holds up!
Btw, I wish I saw this video sooner to get 20% off!...LOL. I paid $82 with tax. It was more than I wanted to spend but they seem like quality tires and I'm just an 'Average Joe' rider and usually replace tires once a year - if that. Another one I was considering was Continental Trail King but watched some negative videos about them. I just wanted to try something other than Maxxis, although they are great as well!
LOVE how fast rolling the Mazza is for how much tread it brings! Sadly, our code currently doesn't work but trying to get it reinstated so next time you can save $$ when you need tires! :)
Nice to see a new video out from you! I will say when I had my Specialized Status I did swap out the rear Butcher, garbage tire that got a pinch flat on the second ride, to an Enduro TNT Mazza and loved the grip! Other than that my favorite tires currently are the Michelin Wild Enduro's those have lasted me almost two seasons with zero issues and great tread life!
Thank you!! And awesome to hear about the Michelins too, they were a big player back in the day and awesome to see them back in the mix!
By far my favorite combo. Its untouchable. And they roll fast.
So good!!
I have the Mazza 2.6 up front and 2.35 on the back. This is my first experience with them and have been amazing so far. Think I will stick with them from now on. Will have to try some different combos for the back tire
I just put a vittoria barzo 2.6 on front and back of my new to me 2019 specialized stumpjumper 27.5 short travel. Also just put on Canfield 155mm crankset . Today was my first ride on the tires and have to say these are the best rolling tires I have ever used. My trail system has a lot of sandy areas roots and rocks and tires hooked up well. I have the grey trail version. Very happy with my purchase. Running 22psi in front and 25 psi rear. I’m in northeast also.
That's awesome to hear! I ran a set of Barzos on my Evil Following for three days up at Kingdom Trails and loved how fast they are!
I appreciate the review and the candor about your relationships. I bought into the Vittoria hype and bought 2 Barzos in Graphene for my XC bike. First ride was both impressive and unimpressive at the same time. I think the tread pattern and compound is good for everything except for roots, especially wet. Maybe I need to run even lower pressure with these tires than with others in other brands, but I noticed more deflection, bounce, and root sliding than with most of my other tires in the same category. Granted New England conditions are basically rainforest right now, but I’ll be pulling these off and going back to Maxxis and Bontrager until I can better figure out how to run these tires for my trails and conditions.
Appreciate the feedback! I’m currently running Barzo/Mezcal on my Signal Peak and haven’t any issues. I DO run them a bit lower on pressure for more grip vs rolling speed, with an Airliner Light in the rear.
@@MTBMA I think that’s probably the key! The sidewalls definitely have more reinforcement than I’m used to with XC and I was probably just running too high of pressure for this tire. Didn’t have too much time to experiment at the time. I do have to say that the Barzo’s felt like they were glued to berms, in a good way, so that was super fun.
I completely agree the tires are great and I’m running Barzo’s here in SoFla and also agree the grey sidewall looks great new but fades rather quickly. Been looking for a replacement just because of the discoloration. Tell the Product Developer to fix it or maybe just make them black and I would not need to look for a replacement 😉
He knows how we feel about the sidewall colors, but I’ll pass that along (again) to him! 😆
Pretty disappointing but thanks for your review and for passing on the info 👍🏻
Back again, new bike build and trying out your combo! I'll let you know the outcome soon.
Nice!! Now to get our discount code back up and working again!
Great review. I recently switched from a DHF/DISSECTOR combo because the dissector side knobs started to tear in the first week. So far I’m very impressed. The Mazza grips like crazy and rolls at least as good as the DHF. Martello seems great so on the rear up steep and technical climbs and rolls fast and grips very well on hard pack descents. It seems fine on steep loamy descents as well but it is aided in braking by the tenacious MAZZA.. so far I. Very happy but wonder if the agarro is a better rear tire.. ?
A lot depends on conditions and what you’re willing to compromise in terms of performance. With the Agarro, I’m happy to gain better rolling performance and sacrifice a bit of braking bite. 95% of the time Im riding hard pack so the Agarro is plenty grippy. But recently I’ve been riding my Delano in North Conway instead of my long travel enduro (which has Mazza front/rear) and am tempted to swap out the Agarro for a Martello or Mazza since so much of that riding is steep! Hope this helps!
@@MTBMA That does help, thanks. We have lots of long steep descents here in the PNW and so far the Martello is doing the trick on the rear. I wouldn't want less braking than the Martello offers so I'll stick with what I have and recommend others to give these tires a try. The Mazza is incredible on the front.
I've just recently switched to Agarro front and rear on my 2019 Norco Fluid fs1, I've only done a couple of rides on them so far but they feel pretty good, for sure more grip than the Barzo front and rear combo that I was running, I can't see myself needing anything more aggressive, I was a bit concerned about the extra weight but its not really an issue, I think the extra weight is compensated by how well they roll, I think they may even roll better than the Barzo, or at least no real noticeable difference, I decided to stick with Vittoria because the Barzo rear lasted for 2 years, and it still had some tread left on it when I finally binned it, they seem to last for ages.
Actually looking to switch to an Agarro front/rear on my Signal Peak for the same reason. Want a slightly bit more aggressive tread without going super heavy. 🤘
I have to correct myself, after a few more rides on the agarro I've decided to remove them, the vast majority of my riding is done on lose over hard, and the agarro didn't really seem to be much better on that terrain, it feels like you have more grip but when you push harder the front goes quickly, where the barzo seems to give you more warning, and when it does go it goes slower giving you more time to catch it, also they are quite a lot heavier which makes it slower on xc type peddling tracks, you do notice the extra weight, it feels like you're riding on soft ground, or like I was unfit, I assume the agarro would be better in soft terrain, but I wouldn't recommend it for lose over hard, or hard pack.
So I decided to try the syerra, I wasn't expecting much but I was actually very surprised, once again this is just on loose over hard, but its noticeably faster than the agarro, I would say very close to the barzo, and I think it actually has more grip than the agarro too, the tyre has a more round profile and there's a wider channel between the transition knobs and the cornering knobs so they can dig in better, the center knobs are about 4mm tall on both the agarro and the syerra, but they're smaller and spaced further apart on the syerra, also another cool feature is the firmer 60tpi casing which means you can run them at lower pressures, I'm about 73kg and ran 20psi in the front with the barzo and agarro, but I could run 18psi on the syerra no problem, it could probably handle 17psi no problem too, I think this is my new go to tyre, it kind of feels like a more capable barzo.
@@benjy288 Good insight here, been on the fence between Syerra + Agarro!
@@benjy288 great feedback! I feel like im in the same situation as you In Australia, most of our riding is loose over hard, I've done a LOT of XC riding on mezcal/barzo (got over 4000km on a mezcal rear!!!), and researching more aggressive tyre choices. I'm going to Canada For BCBR this year so looking for a a light, durable and grippy option, considering Syerra, Agarro and Mazza, or just sticking with Barzo and adding an insert.
@@hodgo1981 Personally I wouldn't go anything more than the Syerra, the Agarro made me feel unfit, and they didn't give any more grip on loose over hard, I actually think the Syerra gave me more grip in those conditions, and they roll much better, almost as well as the Barzo, in fact I don't even know if I would be able to tell them apart if I rode them blind back to back, the Syerra is my new favorite.
Very nice combo bro.
I am currently running Mazza out front and the Syerra at the rear. I like the rolling speed of the Syerra, but it gets a little nasty when they get wet they are pretty slippery on the roots and rocks. Mazza that probably is one of my top 3 tires I have ever owned. I would like to try out the Agarro. One of my friends own them (front and back) and he's extremely happy with them on his Canyon Strive. Cheers
Agarro is a killer tire to combo with the Mazza!
i have agarro front and rear, both 2.35"
in my kitty litter gravel, and in more loamy dirt/leaves/pine needles, it's a killer set up on my DC (115 travel) rig.
i've also run the teravail honcho/ehline in light casing, but they're fragile tires.
no liners, carbon 27mm id rims.
Looooove the Agarro, tempted to toss that front/rear on my short travel bike for a bit more bite than my current XC tire setup.
i've even run agarro 2.35 rear on my trail bike. it's very similar tread pattern to a Spec. Ground Control, but the sidewalls and perhaps that graphene adds a little stiffness it feels like, which makes it shine in my area, if i were to compare the 2. @@MTBMA
Good video, and great edit! How much air pressure are you running in the rear with the insert? Also how much is your riding weight?
I’m 170 geared up and typically run 22-24 psi depending on terrain and conditions.
Hey man, follower from Brazil here, great content! Just bought a Trek Top Fuel 8 and I'm searching for a good trail combo, since i'll basically dedicate this bike for trails only now (ocasionally some offroad longer pedals with my friends, but for that I can also go for my HT). I have a Crossking 2.3 front and Barzo 2.25 rear, i got those from my previous mtb (Scott Spark RC 2020) as they are practically as new. I was running marathon and technical XC competition with these tires and also did trail riding, i do like the combo, but i keep wondering how much improvement I would get with a slightly agressive combo. On my researches i got to the Rekon/Forekaster config, but I did like a lot this Agressor/Mazza config man.
Thanks for watching!! Love this combo for sure, only thing I would do different is maybe go Agarro front/rear if you want event faster rolling speed. But tough to beat this combo for every day trail rides!
I’ve been riding vittoria Mazza/Martello and sometimes a morsa for two years. But I just got a new bike that came stock with maxxis assegai front and rear. I don’t understand all the hype tho. I honestly feel like my vittoria setup had more grip that those.
You know how we feel, Vittoria has it dialed! :)
Yes I agree!
Can you do a review on the vittoria syerra?
I just got a short travel bike so hopefully I can get on a set of Syerra tires soon! 🙌
Great review! I'm in Colorado, ride lots of dry loose kitty litter trails with some rocks and roots. Current set up is a Trek Fuel EX7 w Dissector front/Aggressor rear. Looking for a comparable setup with Vittoria. Would you suggest the Mazza/Agarro or Agarro/Agarro, or another combo? Thanks for any feedback
I would go Mazza/Agarro for sure!!
@@MTBMA Would the Mazza bring too much bulk, like an enduro tire? Looking for good grip up front without being clunky like a DHF or Assegai. On that note, how does the Mazza compare to the Martello? Thanks for the input
Also in CO. Currently running Martello front and rear. A touch heavy. I’ve also run Agarro front and rear too. I liked the pedaling efficiency of the Agarro but was a touch loose on the sand over hard. Great on rocks but impact was a bit blunt compared to the Martello too. So, I may switch to Martello front, Agarro rear.
Also CO - Mazza / Agarro (both 2.6) is so good. The Mazza up front rolls well and has remarkable grip and composure. The Agarro rolls well but what surprised me and sold me was how much more aggressive it is relative to what you’d expect looking at it. You can break loose when you want but it’s very controlled and desirable in fast tight switchbacks. This combo has been great for dropping anchor when you need too as well - huge plus as I am an aggressive rider. 10/10 combo
I'm surprised at how fast rolling and how much traction my Spur has with this Mazza / Agarro combo. I feel like it rolls similar or better than the Dissector Rekon combo that came on the bike, but has more traction. I was going to swap to more XC style tires, but I really don't think I'm giving much up with this combo. I also don't feel the need to run Cushcore with this combo. It is also really quiet on pavement.
Agreed! Killer combo of grip and rolling efficiency!
Agarro rear and Martello front would work well too if you want even faster rolling and still plenty of front traction especially paired with the Agarro rear.
I would like to do the same combination on my bike, but I have an E-MTB and Vittoria has an E-MTB version of the two tires. The problem is that the Agarro only comes with the gray side panel in the E version and the Mazza only comes with the black side panel in the E version. I don't even know where the explicit difference to the e-bike version is and you won't find anything explicit on the internet either. Is the rubber compound harder or softer? Is the carcass thicker or thinner? Does it last longer but has less grip than the regular version? I'm assuming that the e-bike version will be more stable or durable in some way, so it would probably make sense to use the rear tire (Agarro) as the e-bike version. However, it has gray side walls, so I would have to take a normal Mazza with gray side walls, which is very difficult and expensive to find in Germany. Or I take the normal black version of both tires, but I don't know the difference to the e-bike version. This is pretty stupid done by Vittoria as not everyone uses the same tire front and rear. I'm now thinking about just taking the e-bike version of both. Then only the rear tire has a gray sidewall and the Mazza has a black sidewall, but that's really too stupid for me to stress about the color of the sidewall. That's really quite stupid made by Vittoria, but I'm very interested in the tires, especially the Mazza, which I really want as a front tire. I would prefer to use a Schwalbe with Super Trail carcass and Speedgrip rubber compound or a Maxxis Highroller as the rear tire, but it looks even more stupid if there are two completely different sidewalls on it. Vittoria definitely needs to work on the rear tires and it would also be good if the Agarro had the 2PLY TLR casing for more rear protection. However, at Schwalbe it is also the case that there are no tires with a Super Gravity carcass + Addix Speedgrip, although that would be the best version as a rear tire. A Hans Dampf or Nobby Nic Super Gravity Speedgrip as a rear tire, but no manufacturer offers something like that, although the carcass is much more important at the rear than at the front and you should still have a harder rubber compound at the rear than at the front.
But I definitely want the Mazza for the front and preferably another Vittoria tire in the same color for the rear, although the only option for a rear tire is the Agarro, which will certainly do a good job. I just don't know exactly whether it's an e-bike version or not and which color, I hope you can help me.
From my talking with the Vittoria people, the E-mtb versions are the same as the Enduro casing tires.
@@MTBMA But the Agarro is unfortunately not available as an enduro carcass and that's why I couldn't use the Agarro as a rear tire. Now have the E-Martello for the rear and the E-Mazza for the front.
Hi! I do enduro staff with my long travel enduro bike, many rocks in my area, i planed to use mazza front and rear, do you use TNT casing in agresive trails? Enough against punctures and bites in the casing?
Im 75kg
Thanks for the help
Sorry I missed this comment! I run TNT casing on all my bikes, even enduro bikes. TNT had the extra sidewall protection as well 👍
Would you say the grip is more or less than a dhr2 front and back or dhr2 front disecter rear
Thanks
It’s more.
Great review! I been thinking about slapping them on my bike for a while. May I ask, since you are local to me. I ride Lynn- HP- school street and ride my v1 offering downhill as well. Do you feel the tires would hold up well for my kind of riding? I have tr37s and will most likely have some cushcores..
Either would hold up great, but I'd PROB lean towards Mazza/Mazza front and rear if you ride Lynn/HP a lot and do some downhill and bike park on your Offering. I always lean towards a chunkier tire for more technical terrain for a bit more general protection on the rims/wheels and added traction. And there isnt a huge weight difference either between Mazza/Agarro so you wont have a big penalty for going Mazza.
@@MTBMA thank you for the insight and the quick response! I will give it a go, been hearing a lot of great things about them so why not!
I am looking at the Maxxis Dissector2.4/Rekon2.4 combo for a new to me Evil Following MB. Currently has DHF2.5/DHR2.4, but that’s overkill for where I ride. More flowy trails with not a ton of elevation change, so I’m thinking lighter and faster rolling. I was looking at Syerra/Barzo as an alternative to Dissector/Rekon. Have you tried that setup?
In 2019 we rode a V1 Following up at Kingdom Trails in VT for three days with a Barzo front and rear because the trails there arent too rocky (go figure?) and they did amazing for that trail network. That being said, a lot of stuff around us is a bit more rocky and based on our riding style, would prefer something with a bit more protective casing than a full on XC tire. We havent had a chance to test out the Syerra yet (hopefully soon!) but they look like a perfect middle ground between a Barzo and Agarro.
@@MTBMA actually, the Agarro/Syerra combo could be pretty sweet and likely Agarro is more comparable to the Dissector. I did watch the Syerra introduction video and they rode some fairly gnarly stuff so it could be good enough at both ends but one review I watched said double Syerra washed out in the front, which leads me to think it would work better as a rear with the Agarro up front OR perhaps a less grippy rear like the Barzo would balance the Syerra on front. What I find interesting is how similar the Agarro and Syerra tread look other than knob height. If only I could just buy them all.
@@MTBMA a complaint I’ve heard about the Maxxis Dissector is the large gap between center and edge knobs makes it sketchy in between. I think if you’re really aggressive and throw it over then it hooks up amazingly, but if you’re smoother and not so aggressive it can be intimidating to get to turn, so the Agarro/Syerra tread should be easier to grip in turns. Also, it does look like Vittoria is putting more effort into siping (sp?) and steps in the knobs. Could just be marketing but makes it seem like Maxxis is resting on their laurels as the market dominator.
@@kevinclark9176 yeah I think it def comes down to riding style and terrain. If you’re pushing harder and more aggressive then I think Agarro up front is the way to go with a Syerra in back.
The Dissector EXO cuts easy. The knobs also look like they will start to rip off not long from now, and I am using it as a front 29x2.4. Maxxis quality control may have gone downhill, I got one that was very out of round. I am thinking of trying a 29x2.6 with some rim protection EXO+ Rekon or some other brand.
Where are you riding in Vietnam? I live here. I need help.
Have you used the combo in clay rich terrain when wet, or worse, clay turned to mud?
Have you ran a Morsa in the rear? How does that compare to the Agarro?
It's been at least 4-5+ years since we've had time on the Morsa, but it's def a bit chunkier and aggressive than the Agarro and won't roll AS fast.
Any updated 20% off codes? Tried using one in video and isn’t valid
No update on my code, but JEFFLENOSKY will work!
It seems the code no longer works :(
Sadly couldn’t get the code renewed yet 😔
@@MTBMA appreciate the response!