Awesome job from start to finish I like how u start and wrap yourself around and call it out as you see it not leaving anything unseen . As an electrician you are right we sometimes forget things cuz we juggle a lot no excuses . I would love to see more electrical videos as I am looking into becoming an inspector and putting my tool belt to hang Great job man keep them coming
my shorts are loaded with them another inspector told hr i was filming on site even though i wasn't doing anything but showing the violation up close and showing the code hr scrubbed the channel.. found no wrong doing other than said because i work for a city i cant film/make money at the same time some bs.. anyway i am an inspector but i cant flim city jobs so its not often i can show these this was a treat and i could voice my opinion
In a lot of areas "as in part of the state, not area of the house." They allow the 20 amp circuit for the bathroom to do the lights and fan in the bathroom as well.. but it all depends where you're at.
@@roropepe1848 depends on the region of the country. I've seen it in Oregon they allow to do all bathroom's' on one 20amp circuit was allowed. As long as it did nothing else. It's all about the AHJ and what you want to try and fight about and keep work basically. Less fighting more work.. sad but true. It's just like our political arena..
In my area, you’re allowed to fill the 7/8 hole ass tight as you want. They took away the de rating for nm cable. Also the bathroom outlet can be on with the lights in the bathroom as well. Just needs to be a dedicated circuit.
Yep ropping a hotel in Cali and this is standard. Entire lighting circuit for room,bath and wall plugs on 20amp 12/2. Bath wall plug on it’s own dedicated circuit
My first Inspector was a hard ass and I am glad he was but he would always answer a call and inform me. Everything I do now isn't just code; it's above and beyond and haven't failed one since.
My understanding is that if a 20 amp circuit goes to one bathroom, then the lights and receptacles (you call them plugs) can be on that circuit. If multiple bathrooms share a 20 amp circuit, then the bathroom lights can not be on that circuit. I could not tell from your walk through if the there were multiple bathrooms on one circuit. Thanks for doing this video. I may not agree with all your calls, and I appreciate you putting it out there for all of us to comment on.
I'm on vacation and don't have my code book handy. At minute 2:31 you indicate/imply that it is a violation that they don't have 240V GFCI protection on their temp panel. I'm curious about your interpretation of this. The panel is receiving 240V and has a two pole main disconnect breaker but the only circuits I see run are the two 120V GFCI protected circuits. If a 240V circuit had been run from the panel for higher voltage construction equipment, I would conclude it is that circuit which requires the GFCI protection. I look forward to your insight.
@Sk8n2Enjoi if we look at temporary power, I think five ninety of the top of my head 590. 240 V is present. The breaker might not be installed for it, but it's still available at the panel. Certain trades are scheduled months in advance to be on site example.Elevator guy, if 240 is available, (which it is at this site) or if someone's there to do a slab cut and they're using a two forty volt machine, they're going to go to the panel, remove the dead front and bootleg wire something. The contractor must provide a safe plug and breaker, protected, etc If they want to disassemble the tpole weatherhead, and only run the availability for a hundred and twenty volts down to the panel, that's a different story Then you would only have 120 available Including thedrop all the way from the utility transformer. On the tiplex Would not be connected at the transformer They would not be allowed to have any 240 on the premise If it's present, then it must be provided safely
@@toolsandtactics interesting. What region is this? We’ve never done that and I live in a major city with safety inspectors and osha crawling around. So if the panel is capable of having a 240v branch circuit then you MUST install 240v gfci breaker and receptacle? And how do we determine what amperage to install? We always tell them to bring their generator when the large electrical tools show up.
@@toolsandtacticsMy background is in naval engineering systems maintenance, so I don't claim expertise in landside electrical installations. I'm broadening my knowledge now in order to enter into the field following my current career. I'm referencing the 2023 cycle code, so it may be a difference in the cycle version. I'm seeing that the code specifically indicates that it's receptacle outlets that require protection (590.6). If the electrical contractor did not provide a receptacle outlet for 240V and another trade opens up the panel to bootleg some hookups, that's a different issue altogether. But also, if the EC didn't provide a 240V receptacle outlet when the other trades need it, that indicates an oversight or lack of communication. Anyhow, I know this snippet wasn't a big part of the video. I appreciate you taking the time to give me your insight into the question and I am grateful that you took the time to make this informative video!
at 22:40 you have a note for "only 1 Romex per pancake box, this is good". THIS IS NOTE GOOD. 12-2 Romex is counted at 6.75 cu in, where the box is rated only for 6. 314.16(b) exception is for dome canopies, typically used for ceiling fans. This is a code violation.
Problem with having all bathroom loads on one circuit, is today the amount of loads, i.e. Heaters (Ceiling and Space), Hair dryers, TV's/Radios, can draw many amps. Multiple outlets. Long term better to have ceiling loads on separate circuit.
[4:50] Quote me the code where it says no more than 1, 2, 3,...100 romex thru a hole in a stud. Go ahead I'll wait. I'd be more concerned about the bundling, the pinched stapling and the loose cables. [7:36] Check to make sure the wire nut is listed for that many conductors. [8:45] Since you're calling out more-than-code for hole fills, I'd call out the rooms just barely meeting 6' separation. I want to see at least 3 per wall for typical rooms. [11:20] 6 cables in 3-gang box: (6*2+3*2+1)*2.25=42.75cu-in fill. What did the box say? - you didn't even look. Maybe you know, but if you're calling it out you should tell us. [48:40] On bathroom "Huge Fail": Last I checked you could dedicate one 20A circuit to the bathroom including the lights for the bathroom [2017-210.11C3X]. When did that change? [48:42] On "joints" in general: On the wire nuts I use (Ideal brand) they rate them for no pre-twisting necessary. I agree the twists you showed look a little wonky, but its clear these guys are flying thru this job, so it's expected and unless you give me a code citation, I think they technically need to pass. If you want to fail them lets see the code cite and the marette cite. Not to my standard either, but I can't back up a fail on this. [18:50] On kitchen and living sapce: Good explanations. I wasn't aware of the "future proofing" being written into code. Another reason to double up on those room receptacles. As you said, you're interest is vested in the homeowner. [26:16] "One plug per vehicle space. Now one plug is actually a receptacle" Clarity PLEASE! You just blasted the guys on ground screws and here you are mispeaking. What I think you meant to say is, "When the code refers to a "plug" that means you must provide a "receptacle" for that plug. etc" C'mon man! And on garages, you letting him pass on the receptacles. I'd call the Master in and tell him to stop being cheap and put 2 dedicated 12A circuits with receptavles every 3 ' on every wall space in addition to a circuit for the ceiling with at least 4 receptacles in the ceiling in addition to the two for the garage door openers. If future-proofing is wriiten into code (which I doubt because you failed to give a citiation) I would hold them to that standard for all rooms, not just the kitchen. [28:50] On SE subpanel: Good call on the bonding screw. I'm surprised you didn't recognize 2/0 Cu cable right off. It looks small because you're not used to seeing big COPPER conductors. I'd be concerned it wasn't torqued to spec myself. If they can't remember bonding bushings, they probably don't know what a torque wrench is. [40:00] On "I wouldn't want that in my attic": Ya! I wouldn't want ANY of that wiring in my attic! Meaning I can tell thru the camera that NONE of it meets 320.23n. It's all bad. [42:15] HA!! You just called yourself out on the second pass re bathrooms: "All the bathrooms can be on one circuit". If you meant EACH bathroom can be on one circuit I agree - and not just receptacles, but lights and fan too. Either you need to brush up on that code section or I need to get a 2025 code book. I appreciate you are rushing thru this inspection (just like the electrcians did) but words have meaning and code-words are particularly specific, so clean that up ma-dude. Final thought: Overall I agree this entire job was a big fail and they need stop rushing and do better. But if you were calling me out, I always have my code book so you better have yours.
Im assuming you are an inspector? 1st time i seen any videos. In the business 25 years, i always try to be on jobs, meet my inspectors, & build relationships with them. I know i know, we typically talk crap about each other. Sometimes its justified on both the inspectors & Contractors, but its not necessary. Again just like i want good relationships with any other Contractors, i feel the same with inspectors. Being at each others throats helps nothing. So i subscribed, even if i don't alway agree i like seeing where the inspectors are at. Their opinions. Because these are the men & women passing my jobs. And i pass most of the time, like 95% most of time. Sometimes some small things someone missed, or code changed, or a specific area wants this or that. But...... this is where that relationship comes into play. I have been passed on my word to handle the small things. Send them pictures the next day or two, hey i did that like I said I would. Your word & reputation means everything. I'll get /pass that rough in, that final, that C.O. & that inspector is taking a chance technically. But i will never embarrass that inspector. And they know i won't so i get some leeway sometimes. Yes this work on this job is just atrocious! But everyone is going to say oh this inspector is being a jerk etc etc etc. This work is terrible. Sloppy. I would be pissed
I get it, This was a courtesy inspection for a buddy 1hr away from where i work, there are no inspections required in the town this home was built in this is not how I handle my day to day role but these guys were expecting an inspection it wasn't a a surprise visit. Anyway I don't know the contractor or anyone associated with the home building nor is it my job to maintain communication correspondence or even return for a reinspection Thx anyway Ill see you around
@@toolsandtactics great response very professional, it’s best to go above and beyond code but some people try and do the bare minimum which is what the code is
@kdubs3 yeah, I think the basics should certainly be taught before you start using one of those, but they're okay in moderation Using a driver with a clutch helps a lot
Two things, I've been wondering on how to deal with this. @1:19 (and other times @24:31, 34:34 for example) there are coiled wires that obviously are going to terminate in a lighting fixture. Per NEC 300.15 "a box or conduit body shall be installed at each conductor splice point, outlet point, switch point, junction point, termination point, or pull point". I've been telling contractor to place at least a "temp box w/ wire nut on the hot" for or like you said, at least the driver installed. do you usually accept "wire loops"??
That’s such a dumb rule they sell boxes with screws that are made to go in the side. Oh my God neutral terminal might hit the screw. Let’s all freak out. It’s the same thing 0:54 as putting a receptacle in the metal box. Smh
I'll be needing some guidance, Def researching electrician videos for a demolition I have coming up at a affordable health clinic in Palm Bay Florida, wish me luck 🙏
@MakeWithMike i've got a few videos on healthcare. If you're going back with healthcare, wiring it would definitely save a lot of people time.If you have any questions, let me know
Great video. All inspectors should really hold these so called electricians accountable. I work at an electrical supply house and a lot of times these so called electricians aka you tube electricians described some dumb stuff that they are doing at someone else’s home and it doesn’t pass the smell test. To all homeowners out there, please hire a real electricians.
I dunno but if your gonna do that many get the right boxes for gods sake😂 I been known to to get away with doing one like that when I have too but that many is pretty bad
What was the problem with more than two romex cables going through a stud hole? It's not bundling unless there together for a certain distance from my understanding.
Az state only allowed 2 romax in a hole, connector, and a staples. Staples within 12" away from the box and first hole which he didn't point out. 1 garage GFI, 2 kitchen Small appliances GFI, 1 laundry GFI and 1 GFI Bathroom is requested and all has to be 20 amp. Since 2018. The wire has to be supported by structure or staples every 4 feet. Some requirements are not NEC code but city and state.
As far as the outside outlets go the box should be nailed to a wall stud or scab on a 2 by four and nail the box flush with the siding. Also service panel needs to be made up for inspection .
Yeah, I was thinking the screws in😊 the outside boxes weren’t too bad but if they’re not hitting any meat and just hit the siding that is bogus that will loosen up for sure
@sku32956 because it's not for a municipality and it's for an individual.( I know the guy that is building the house.) I think he's going to foam the walls, so this will likely be okay But it could potentially push the boxes out of the wall when he foams, l o l That's why I was not too thorough and critical during this inspection. As far as how many romex in each hole. Ect. But yeah, it's not done right
@jaycahow4667 huh??? 10 Amp breakers, 16 gauge wire ? Maybe the fixtures themselves, the transformers , individual units. But not in the walls, to the receptacles, switches &/or to any panel. Minimum 15 Amp breakers with 14 Guage wire.
@ I am all about the wago connectors ( lever nuts. ) I just was wondering why you were knocking on those particular wire nuts ? I’ve found them to be top of the line , never cracked , never stripped, and in some weird odd cases seen them put up with a ridiculous amount of UV.
@@collinsmith9941 I wasn't knocking nuts. The problems with the ones in the video had to many wires with insulation in the connector instead of just the copper.
How is that even acceptable screwing boxes in the side of OSB not the face. There is no meat to hold the screws esp. when it starts to expand and contracts. Could have used metal cut-in-boxes with the F-clip or regular plastic as long as the OSB is under 5/8" instead. I would fail it if I was an inspector.
@@jackstiles458 But who the hell puts a recep in the middle of a stud bay supported by only the OSB? Even if allowed by some fluke, who would do that? Receps get unpredictable forces on them over the years. And exterior OSB is vulnerable to decay by moisture. (But I'm an H/O not an electrician, so waddaIknow).
@@mrcryptozoic817 you make a good point but sometimes it's what the client wants no matter our opinion. Those boxes should of been installed before the OSB was hung. Box brackets would of been the best option.
You DON'T need 240V gfci protection for temporary power main disconnect. Please provide code reference. I believe you're referring to branch circuit wiring.
In Florida We Install Ground Rod Below Meter, Connecting Wire Will Bond Slab Steel, 20' Minimum, and To Meter Can, I Connect To 2 40 Footers. Going From Receptical to Receptical, He Runs Up Necessarily High. A Waste Of Wire, Helper Likely Didn't Have To Buy? Maybe Easier To Drill Holes Without Stooping, Waste Of Wire? Gotta Go Oh Yeah, Will Have To Look Up The 240 Volt GFCI. THE 2 120 Volt Circuits Are Protected, Code Is About Safety, Is Safe, I Need To Look Up, Code Is Always Changing.
You’re not supposed to use old work boxes wherever you have access to the wall cavities. Should’ve done it right and cut it in on a stud or braced it out off of a block
@ I haven’t looked for it, I just don’t do it since I’ve had crews busted on it from IBI (city of Cincinnati / Hamilton county) NIC, and a few other ahj’s around greater cincy. I’m sure it’s in there, I assume that’s why they call them “old work” boxes instead of new work
2/0 CU 175a at 75 degree Column because terminations are rated as such and it’s SE? It would be 135a if it was AL, lemme know if that’s even close to right. 310.15(B).
@@Apache-Helicopter-Life yeah that's correct. We have the eighty three percent rule in effect here as well.Because it's a residence. As far as the copper goes, I'll have to look at the aluminum. When I get a chance Eighty three percent of two hundred is. 166. So any wire capable of delivering over 166 is good to go.
Wire nut should be should have electrical tape also . Did you count how many outlets per breaker and follow the 80 percent rule or did you assume that was just correct. Is the code in you're area 12/2 for 15 amp circuits? ? Or are all of thoose 20 amp outlets?
Please elaborate. Since when is there a rule to tape wire nuts but not devices in box, and what is the citation? And what is this 80% rule for number of outlets? AFAIK 2017 220.18 says load not to exceed 100% of branch circuit. And 210.23A1 210.21B2 address single piece of equipment not exceeding 80% of rated circuit. There is absolutely no code citation I can find limiting the number of receptacles taken off a branch circuit that is not dedicated to a piece of equipment. I agree there should be a limit on what a responsible electrician would install before adding circuits by common sense and clients wishes.
@jay9308 they must provide 1 plug if the panel has the capability for 240 a plug must be provided so no one tries to make it Some companies are scheduled months in advance and are only there for 1 day to do one job, and they must have the power when they need it. So sometimes they take the cove off and try to make it. It's a safety hazard.
@@shadygunshow any, typically i see a 20 or 30 wire rated and receptacle rated accordingly it's a rule i HATE because some times its just a stupid lease space and it will never get used
What about "Electrical equipment and cabling must be installed in a professional and skillful manner", per the 2023 (NEC). It doesn't look like an electrician rough wired that in. It was somebody that knows enough to be dangerous, and thats scary who ever has to trim out / finish work after drywall is put on. Plus who ever lives there. Its not safe.
19:29 Sorry for leaving so many comments, but kind of watching in real time. Our island does have NM-B underground in PVC conduit into the island. They wedged 2x 12-2WG in a 1/2" conduit another 2x 12-2WG in another and then to top it off they wedged a 10-2WG NMB into a 3rd 1/2" conduit as well. There is no way you can pull those wires, I have tried, they are so wedged in there. Why they didn't use a larger conduit I have no idea, again or how that was missed during inspections. 🤷♂🤦♂ I could tell that there were at least two people wiring the house as half the outlets / switches were wired different than the other half of them. They installed almost 197 outlets in the house and 108 switches, so it wasn't a little job. I had to replace all of them as in 2007 they used almond, it kept me busy doing all them for a while before we moved in. I hope your buddy holds the contractors responsible for sure, and fight the battle for sure to fix things.
It's possible they're just sleeved, and they poured concrete right over the n.M, it might not even be a continuous pvc. The amount of shortcuts that I see, just to save a couple of minutes is mind boggling
@jamesmanyadventures they intend to install some type of recessed light that has a driver with a cord hanging off of it, and then the light itself plugs into that It's fairly common. I don't like it, but having the drivers on-site. Separate from the lights at rough .Isn't that common
@ChadingTon84 that's probably fair.It could have made the video that much better Again that's what the comments are for. I do like seeing other people's perspectives and not just forcing mine Some codes aren't common sense, so it's good to see what you guys think so.I can adjust how I inspect Just like they know more than two romex per stud, you're actually allowed three percent code with the right conditions for me to show you the code of where it says two , there's basically an exception that allows three. Romex in one hole
I thought code is wires must by stapled or supported within 12 inches of entering a box including the the main or sub panels. They should of used stack ems above those 3 and 4 gang boxes to support those wires. The factory puts more knock outs in boxes for a reason not to put 4 wires in one hole. My inspector would never allow those wires to be just traveling across the attic joist like that the wires would have to be drilled into the joist or put on a running board on top of the joist or truss so the romex can be stapled on top of it. Probably because we have to put in lots of blown in insulation and you would be tripping over loose wires. And Thats probably a square D sub panel it comes with the bonding screw already in that spot when you get it. It doesn't bond the case until you screw it in all the way. I guess square d is doing that because we always lost that little plastic bag with the bonding screw in it when we made up the panel. But Maybe they shouldn't do it to the sub panel box and only the main panel.
15:03 Well that is much better than what I have in my house. Here they wired all 5 bathrooms back to a single GFCI in one of the bathrooms. Its absolutely horrible, and I have no idea how it passed inspection. Only one hair dryer at a time for all the bathrooms. Heck we have 400A (320A) with split 40 space load centers as well, and over 5K SQ FT, and still have crap like this, and it was built in 2007. I can't imagine building something new now. 🤦♂🤷♂
Yeah, I really don't like that rule. They can wire every bathroom to one common circuit. It's really bad.I'll go to a final 3 story house 4 bathrooms and what I'll do is I have to plug in to verify powers on in all the bathrooms, then I'll trip it. Verify it tripped and then go.Make sure all the bathroom plugs are off
@@toolsandtactics Yeah its silly for sure. I have been thinking about breaking them apart as well and at least having 2 or 3 separate circuits. Just a pain in the rear for sure. They are so strict in kitchens about circuit loads, but could care less in the bathrooms that are much worse. We have anywhere from 4 to 8 outlets (2 gang (4 outlets) on each side of each sink) in each of the 5 bathrooms and have that single 20A circuit. Just from the device count its way over. Its a small town and you wonder how much they actually look when a large builder comes into town that they know. Not to pick on the inspectors 😁👍, but you know what I mean, do they actually get out of the car or rubber stamp things out of laziness just like the electricians. I would hope that most all inspectors do a thorough job like you, but I am sure there are some bad apples out there too, just like in all professions.
@vincentcarrozza2334 it was six quick footsteps, but I put on the screen six foot seven inches because I measured it after. Because this was for a friend. And a custom house, I told my buddy he should add another
Sometimes you just need a junction box....lot of reasons i can think of for one. Need to branch off....or a big one, cost. All tradesman love to charge absolute top dollar and as many hours they can squeeze the customer for....
4 wires per hole is NEC code. But a lot of cities do 2-3. Which just makes it weird. Be nice if inspectors had to cite the code they violate you on, then we'd all be on the same page more. BTW the electrician for this job is downright horrible.... So many outside receptacles just right on the vertical trim, all will have to be cut to fit a cover later(like you said for the wall light). Bathroom light switch and receptacle box at different heights. Receptacle off switch box is fine and is indeed wired correctly. The switches are pigtailed, they aren't breaking the circuit to receptacle. No staple within 12-inches of box, so many times. Some line for marking boxes thats in the middle of them? be hard pressed to get those kitchen receptacles lined up together. The wire in attic for lights is fine, its for canless disc lights(you pop the hole exactly where you want it at trim out/after drywall. You get much better final results, for kitchen tops and everything else isn't always perfect). These just need to be where you can access it, not where it may go. I'm sure I can see plenty more. I'd 100% fire these guys, they're not licensed electricians. One the first signs was wasting money on 12/2 for light fixtures, that they're not electricians. Probably all inclusive contractor.
12 gauge for lighting circuits in a home totally unnecessary especially today with LED lighting, 14 gauge is fine. It takes more time and space to terminate 12 gauge and set devices especially dimmers that take up more space so you need maximum size boxes
A Couple Things, The Outdoor Boxes Could Have A Cat Going Across The Back of Box, New Construction I ALWAYS Use 4 X 4, Code Says 4 X 4 or Equivalent. See Some Use 2 2X4's To Me, NOT Equivalent. Needs To Strip Insulation Where It Enters Box, I Wire Boxes So When Drywall and Paint is On, You Just Hook Up To Wiring, No Need To Add Pigtails. In The Kitchen Island, Cabinets Will Likely Be Where Plumbing Pipe is Directed. I See Pendants Overhead, Would Have A Receptical at Each End Of Island Under Counter Top, For Cell Chargers, Whatever, When Sitting At Likely Bar Stools. Have To Go To Go To Work, Will Miss End Of Video. The Bathroom Missing Receptical Might Be In The Switch Box Due To Room.
According to the National Electrical Code (NEC), when securing a PVC electrical box, screws used should be "machine type with blunt ends" and should not extend more than 1/4 inch into the wiring space of the box, meaning they should only penetrate a limited distance into the box wall; if screws need to pass through the box, they must have protected threads to avoid damaging the wire insulation: The NEC and Mike Holt says you are wrong on the screws in those exterior boxes, It's not a code requirement to pre twist solid wires wrong again "3rd party courtesy insp" is trespassing on a construction site, a mind especially like yours has no business there. Removing the flimsy romex lock - hello breaking and entering- felony counter top spacing of recepts you assumed what the countertop layout was, the old saying it makes an a.s out of who? What's most amazing is how you fit your ego inflated head through that double door Dude who gave you permission to trespass and start taking apart somebody elses work? taking your inflated sense of self, spouting your non code opinions, I only watched 7.5 min, my advice to you is go find a shovel and dig a big hole, now backfill it and dig it again!
Where does it say that? Nobody seems to be able to cite it. Personally I think it is confused with bundling and conduit fill and what constitutes such.
@carrangil i did move the pex, but never did I. Mention that it was a violation or anything wrong with it. I was more or less checking for to see if they had penetrated it
@@nateburns5933 Regardless, if it was that easy to pop then the water movement would have made it pop the first time water ran thru it. It looks like a plumbing inspection would fail too.
Technically you can, but then you have to derate the ampacity of all the circuits that go through the same hole: so it's better to just bore another hole (without compromising any framing structural integrity).
Do you have to be an electrician to do rough in??? It's easy as he'll and hard to fail inspection...I ain't no electrician and roughed in many high end houses and passed inspection eveytime...
Good old ignorant racist shows his head. Every construction video. It's been 2010 since illegal started getting paid more than white guys. So if they're paid more, can you imagine how bad it would have been if it was bud light cans on site and white guys doing the work?
The NO BONDING SCREW call at th-cam.com/video/Q7MkXAPzG7U/w-d-xo.html , he just said he was worried about a screw piercing the plumbing, the neutral is there, where is the electrician going? Relocate the box. Some receptacle boxes do need corrected fasting/ mounting
27:00 No Bushings or connectors protecting the wires from the thin, VERY sharp sheet metal of the Breaker panel Box...if I was an Inspector, not only would that be an INSTANT FAIL, you would get screamed at and issued both a FIX THIS RIGHT FREAKING NOW Order as well as 1 VERY nasty Fine PER MISSING BUSHING/CONNECTOR!!! Merely forgetting to bond (Earth/Ground) a Device Box will get you Failed and FIRMLY spoken to as if you were a particularly slow Village Idiot, but unless you 'forgot' to bond more than 40% of the boxes, it won't get you Fined...
All around, a lazy, sh*tty job! Missing lots of nail plates. Outside boxes should be stubs to later add cut-in boxes or put on nail on boxes at rough, Ideal twister wire nuts instead of junk wirenuts. Why so much 12-2, where 14-2 would be more than adequate? Box make up is very messy! Too many romex cables through holes in studs and Top plates! Should have Cable Stackers(not code of course, but good practice) above multi-gang boxes,IMO. Forgetting to remove main bonding jumper screws in sub panels(Take them with you folks and put them in your van with subs), for getting to install them in service panels! Bushing instead of proper SER connector! Strap missing on Liqiud-tite! Bushings instead of proper NM Connectors on top of panel! Missing Receptacle Boxes? Missing mud ring for U-Fer Ground connection. J-box in attic is accessible, just not readily accessable.(IMO). Homeowner or Builder might be a real tight-wad too! Might be unsupervised apprentice too! Neither are an excuse! Thanks, Russ, 29 years in Electrical Trade.
Saving money on the proper exterior boxes but spending it on unecessary 12-2 and the additional labor it brings. Ever heard the expression "penny-wise and pound-foolish"? I can tell you this outfit would have been dismissed long before it got close to this inspection.
First let me say. I agree with so much here. But also, Some of these codes are just....dumb... The 6ft outlet, the gfci on the panel and cant be inline....some of it is just comical. Some of it makes you wonder who did what for them to write on paper (like requiring a wire nut on a connection, seems obvious to me). Whats it matter how many wores go through a hole? As long as it isnt overfilled shouldnt matter, better than a swiss cheese stud in some instances.
Didnt watch past your foyer inspection because your were already incorrect on outlet spacing. Foyer larger than 60sq ft require an outlet on every wall that is 3 feet or larger. Less than 60sq ft no outlets required. As for lights in soffit there is no code requiring that boxes or fixtures to be installed on rough. You could literally leave a whip for every light. Not the smartest decision but not code violation. Reason for leaving whips for wafers for me at least is so they dont get damaged while drywall and insulation is being done
@nickpomaro122 foyers open to interpretation It had a long wall that went left and a short wall that went right into the living room If you're standing in a space, it wasn't defined as a specific room, you could call it a foyer But you clearly walk straight into the living room
@nickpomaro122 what about the code?Every box must be fan rated The reason why we call things more strict is because of incompetence I literally just left the job site where the guy didn't extend the cold water ground to the main service.And then he told me he knew we needed to do it.He was hoping I wouldn't find it
I don’t get why they used 12 every where that makes it a lot harder to do all the work with led now a days using 14 and doing circuit at 80% is so much easier to ruff in obvious use 12 where required but right when you see 12-2 everywhere that’s a red flag right away they did a terrible job just imagine the same guy doing the finish work I would not sleep at night doing electrical work like that
Don't understand the reasoning why inspection allows all the extra outer casing on Romex going into the box and why they allow more than one wire into a single box entry..makes no sense. These plastic boxes are designed for one wire into one hole for the plastic clamp to work ..There is twelve entry points in a three gang plastic box ..Use them ..Never pass in Canada.
There is a code rule in the NEC limiting the amount of exposed sheathing in the box. As of 2017 it was 1/2". I'm told current code is 1/4", but nobody has given me a 2025 code book or a citation. lol.
After watching this video as an electrician i give you a C+ as an inspector. You're claiming code violations that actually aren't violations. I've seen code violations that you completely are unaware they are violations. Then you're touching anothers work and so it's your responsibility to put things back as you found them as much as possible. What you like is not what is required. And I get tired of inspectors giving what they like rather than giving what is correct.
As a client or clients representative I will most certainly pull stuff apart and put a big red tag or use my big red marker to call shit out. As this guy said, the contractors are not my friend. They are to be held to account. That is not being intentionally adversarial, it is a professional evaluation.
Awesome job from start to finish I like how u start and wrap yourself around and call it out as you see it not leaving anything unseen . As an electrician you are right we sometimes forget things cuz we juggle a lot no excuses . I would love to see more electrical videos as I am looking into becoming an inspector and putting my tool belt to hang Great job man keep them coming
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my shorts are loaded with them another inspector told hr i was filming on site even though i wasn't doing anything but showing the violation up close and showing the code hr scrubbed the channel.. found no wrong doing other than said because i work for a city i cant film/make money at the same time some bs.. anyway i am an inspector but i cant flim city jobs so its not often i can show these this was a treat and i could voice my opinion
@ Damn that sucks brother, I was looking forward to more Hour long inspection videos.
@yessir640 hah. That bee sweet! I'll see what I can do.
@ Appreciate ya keep up the great content!!
you definitely got the comment section worked up😂. keep up with videos even if there shorts. We all enjoy them. Thanks
In a lot of areas "as in part of the state, not area of the house." They allow the 20 amp circuit for the bathroom to do the lights and fan in the bathroom as well.. but it all depends where you're at.
Doing a hotel in Cali, whole room lighting, including bath and fan, and wall plugs run off 20amp breaker on 12/2
you can do either one 20 amp for plugs and lights for each bath or one 20 amp for all bath outlets and one 15-20 amp for all bath lights
@@roropepe1848 depends on the region of the country. I've seen it in Oregon they allow to do all bathroom's' on one 20amp circuit was allowed. As long as it did nothing else. It's all about the AHJ and what you want to try and fight about and keep work basically. Less fighting more work.. sad but true. It's just like our political arena..
In my area, you’re allowed to fill the 7/8 hole ass tight as you want. They took away the de rating for nm cable. Also the bathroom outlet can be on with the lights in the bathroom as well. Just needs to be a dedicated circuit.
Yep ropping a hotel in Cali and this is standard. Entire lighting circuit for room,bath and wall plugs on 20amp 12/2. Bath wall plug on it’s own dedicated circuit
correct about the bath i misspoke ''derating'' starts after 2 in wood
@@toolsandtactics in my area it does not. Check on that i believe your mistaken.
Unless it's fire stopped
My first Inspector was a hard ass and I am glad he was but he would always answer a call and inform me. Everything I do now isn't just code; it's above and beyond and haven't failed one since.
My understanding is that if a 20 amp circuit goes to one bathroom, then the lights and receptacles (you call them plugs) can be on that circuit. If multiple bathrooms share a 20 amp circuit, then the bathroom lights can not be on that circuit. I could not tell from your walk through if the there were multiple bathrooms on one circuit. Thanks for doing this video. I may not agree with all your calls, and I appreciate you putting it out there for all of us to comment on.
I'm on vacation and don't have my code book handy. At minute 2:31 you indicate/imply that it is a violation that they don't have 240V GFCI protection on their temp panel. I'm curious about your interpretation of this. The panel is receiving 240V and has a two pole main disconnect breaker but the only circuits I see run are the two 120V GFCI protected circuits. If a 240V circuit had been run from the panel for higher voltage construction equipment, I would conclude it is that circuit which requires the GFCI protection. I look forward to your insight.
Your correct, he’s mistaken on that one
@Sk8n2Enjoi if we look at temporary power, I think five ninety of the top of my head 590.
240 V is present. The breaker might not be installed for it, but it's still available at the panel. Certain trades are scheduled months in advance to be on site example.Elevator guy, if 240 is available, (which it is at this site) or if someone's there to do a slab cut and they're using a two forty volt machine, they're going to go to the panel, remove the dead front and bootleg wire something.
The contractor must provide a safe plug and breaker, protected, etc
If they want to disassemble the tpole weatherhead, and only run the availability for a hundred and twenty volts down to the panel, that's a different story
Then you would only have 120 available
Including thedrop all the way from the utility transformer. On the tiplex
Would not be connected at the transformer
They would not be allowed to have any 240 on the premise
If it's present, then it must be provided safely
@@toolsandtactics interesting. What region is this? We’ve never done that and I live in a major city with safety inspectors and osha crawling around. So if the panel is capable of having a 240v branch circuit then you MUST install 240v gfci breaker and receptacle? And how do we determine what amperage to install?
We always tell them to bring their generator when the large electrical tools show up.
@@toolsandtacticsMy background is in naval engineering systems maintenance, so I don't claim expertise in landside electrical installations. I'm broadening my knowledge now in order to enter into the field following my current career.
I'm referencing the 2023 cycle code, so it may be a difference in the cycle version. I'm seeing that the code specifically indicates that it's receptacle outlets that require protection (590.6). If the electrical contractor did not provide a receptacle outlet for 240V and another trade opens up the panel to bootleg some hookups, that's a different issue altogether. But also, if the EC didn't provide a 240V receptacle outlet when the other trades need it, that indicates an oversight or lack of communication.
Anyhow, I know this snippet wasn't a big part of the video. I appreciate you taking the time to give me your insight into the question and I am grateful that you took the time to make this informative video!
@@Sk8n2Enjoi thanks! 👍👍
at 22:40 you have a note for "only 1 Romex per pancake box, this is good". THIS IS NOTE GOOD. 12-2 Romex is counted at 6.75 cu in, where the box is rated only for 6. 314.16(b) exception is for dome canopies, typically used for ceiling fans. This is a code violation.
Problem with having all bathroom loads on one circuit, is today the amount of loads, i.e. Heaters (Ceiling and Space), Hair dryers, TV's/Radios, can draw many amps. Multiple outlets. Long term better to have ceiling loads on separate circuit.
All you have to do is use a front mount box and put a piece of 2x in the back
[4:50] Quote me the code where it says no more than 1, 2, 3,...100 romex thru a hole in a stud. Go ahead I'll wait. I'd be more concerned about the bundling, the pinched stapling and the loose cables. [7:36] Check to make sure the wire nut is listed for that many conductors. [8:45] Since you're calling out more-than-code for hole fills, I'd call out the rooms just barely meeting 6' separation. I want to see at least 3 per wall for typical rooms. [11:20] 6 cables in 3-gang box: (6*2+3*2+1)*2.25=42.75cu-in fill. What did the box say? - you didn't even look. Maybe you know, but if you're calling it out you should tell us. [48:40] On bathroom "Huge Fail": Last I checked you could dedicate one 20A circuit to the bathroom including the lights for the bathroom [2017-210.11C3X]. When did that change? [48:42] On "joints" in general: On the wire nuts I use (Ideal brand) they rate them for no pre-twisting necessary. I agree the twists you showed look a little wonky, but its clear these guys are flying thru this job, so it's expected and unless you give me a code citation, I think they technically need to pass. If you want to fail them lets see the code cite and the marette cite. Not to my standard either, but I can't back up a fail on this. [18:50] On kitchen and living sapce: Good explanations. I wasn't aware of the "future proofing" being written into code. Another reason to double up on those room receptacles. As you said, you're interest is vested in the homeowner. [26:16] "One plug per vehicle space. Now one plug is actually a receptacle" Clarity PLEASE! You just blasted the guys on ground screws and here you are mispeaking. What I think you meant to say is, "When the code refers to a "plug" that means you must provide a "receptacle" for that plug. etc" C'mon man! And on garages, you letting him pass on the receptacles. I'd call the Master in and tell him to stop being cheap and put 2 dedicated 12A circuits with receptavles every 3 ' on every wall space in addition to a circuit for the ceiling with at least 4 receptacles in the ceiling in addition to the two for the garage door openers. If future-proofing is wriiten into code (which I doubt because you failed to give a citiation) I would hold them to that standard for all rooms, not just the kitchen. [28:50] On SE subpanel: Good call on the bonding screw. I'm surprised you didn't recognize 2/0 Cu cable right off. It looks small because you're not used to seeing big COPPER conductors. I'd be concerned it wasn't torqued to spec myself. If they can't remember bonding bushings, they probably don't know what a torque wrench is. [40:00] On "I wouldn't want that in my attic": Ya! I wouldn't want ANY of that wiring in my attic! Meaning I can tell thru the camera that NONE of it meets 320.23n. It's all bad. [42:15] HA!! You just called yourself out on the second pass re bathrooms: "All the bathrooms can be on one circuit". If you meant EACH bathroom can be on one circuit I agree - and not just receptacles, but lights and fan too. Either you need to brush up on that code section or I need to get a 2025 code book.
I appreciate you are rushing thru this inspection (just like the electrcians did) but words have meaning and code-words are particularly specific, so clean that up ma-dude. Final thought: Overall I agree this entire job was a big fail and they need stop rushing and do better. But if you were calling me out, I always have my code book so you better have yours.
Quick search says its table 310. Xxxx something. You have to debate over 2 in a hole
@@sparksmcgee6641 only if it's bundled for 24" or above?
Very informative. Thank you for the video.
Half in half out bonding screw on a panel usually means it was put there from factory and needs to be tighten or removed on install.
Fire caulk / fire stop anywhere?
@gabequeiroga4471 no, the builder is going to do that himself
But you're right.It should be there before they close the wall
Im assuming you are an inspector? 1st time i seen any videos. In the business 25 years, i always try to be on jobs, meet my inspectors, & build relationships with them. I know i know, we typically talk crap about each other. Sometimes its justified on both the inspectors & Contractors, but its not necessary. Again just like i want good relationships with any other Contractors, i feel the same with inspectors. Being at each others throats helps nothing.
So i subscribed, even if i don't alway agree i like seeing where the inspectors are at. Their opinions. Because these are the men & women passing my jobs. And i pass most of the time, like 95% most of time. Sometimes some small things someone missed, or code changed, or a specific area wants this or that. But...... this is where that relationship comes into play. I have been passed on my word to handle the small things. Send them pictures the next day or two, hey i did that like I said I would. Your word & reputation means everything. I'll get /pass that rough in, that final, that C.O. & that inspector is taking a chance technically. But i will never embarrass that inspector. And they know i won't so i get some leeway sometimes.
Yes this work on this job is just atrocious! But everyone is going to say oh this inspector is being a jerk etc etc etc. This work is terrible. Sloppy. I would be pissed
I get it, This was a courtesy inspection for a buddy 1hr away from where i work, there are no inspections required in the town this home was built in this is not how I handle my day to day role but these guys were expecting an inspection it wasn't a a surprise visit. Anyway I don't know the contractor or anyone associated with the home building nor is it my job to maintain communication correspondence or even return for a reinspection
Thx anyway Ill see you around
@@toolsandtactics oh OK, that's actually cool of you to look out for your friends. I do agree with alot of what you pointed out. So I'm following
As I understand it the 20amp GFCI bathroom receptacle can serve the entire bathroom (lights, fan) as long as it only serves that bathroom
@johnmichael642 you know now that you mention it, I might be wrong about that. Let me check thanks
@@toolsandtactics great response very professional, it’s best to go above and beyond code but some people try and do the bare minimum which is what the code is
Think it changed in 2020
1 garage GFI, 2 kitchen Small appliances GFI, 1 laundry GFI and 1 GFI Bathroom is requested and all has to be 20 amp. Since 2018.
Can I do, 1 circuit for the receptacles and another separate circuit for the lighting? Is that how it's supposed to be done or what's recommended?
At 3:37 I use wago 221 levernuts. They are great for that many neutrals.
those automatic wire twist tools are all fun and games until you have to rewire something.
@kdubs3 yeah, I think the basics should certainly be taught before you start using one of those, but they're okay in moderation
Using a driver with a clutch helps a lot
Good thing the company i work at uses wagos for all make ups. Those 6 and 8 wire connection wagos are a time saver.
@@jltaco85 wagos suck. They remind me of the cheap ass mobile home receptacle and switch. Not enough surface area making contact.
Two things, I've been wondering on how to deal with this. @1:19 (and other times @24:31, 34:34 for example) there are coiled wires that obviously are going to terminate in a lighting fixture. Per NEC 300.15 "a box or conduit body shall be installed at each conductor splice point, outlet point, switch point, junction point, termination point, or pull point". I've been telling contractor to place at least a "temp box w/ wire nut on the hot" for or like you said, at least the driver installed. do you usually accept "wire loops"??
Thanks for this. I wasn't aware of it. Now I know.
That’s such a dumb rule they sell boxes with screws that are made to go in the side. Oh my God neutral terminal might hit the screw. Let’s all freak out. It’s the same thing 0:54 as putting a receptacle in the metal box. Smh
7:25 Isn't that box way over filled with wire, as those are all 12AWG? How would one fit switches outlets into a box that full?
Where are the support blocks on the three gang and four gang boxes ?
Q: Why didn't you call on the fire block foam or Caulking in the holes it's the code look it up.
I'll be needing some guidance, Def researching electrician videos for a demolition I have coming up at a affordable health clinic in Palm Bay Florida, wish me luck 🙏
@MakeWithMike i've got a few videos on healthcare. If you're going back with healthcare, wiring it would definitely save a lot of people time.If you have any questions, let me know
Great video. All inspectors should really hold these so called electricians accountable. I work at an electrical supply house and a lot of times these so called electricians aka you tube electricians described some dumb stuff that they are doing at someone else’s home and it doesn’t pass the smell test. To all homeowners out there, please hire a real electricians.
Why are they using 12-2 for lighting circuits? Waste of money and harder to work with compared to 14-2.
Jesus, what’s with all the outdoor outlets?
Lol I was thinking the same thing. Are they planning on putting up 16 miles of christmas lights?
@Devin-_- if it is my house, I'd probably do the same thing though. You never know. cheap to add now
I dunno but if your gonna do that many get the right boxes for gods sake😂 I been known to to get away with doing one like that when I have too but that many is pretty bad
Is there code for too many?
@@Sammy44111 No, it just looks odd. Typically you’ll just have one at the front door and one at the back.
What was the problem with more than two romex cables going through a stud hole? It's not bundling unless there together for a certain distance from my understanding.
You missed the boxes have to be flush. for combustible material. Non combustible You are allowed up 1/4"
Az state only allowed 2 romax in a hole, connector, and a staples. Staples within 12" away from the box and first hole which he didn't point out. 1 garage GFI, 2 kitchen Small appliances GFI, 1 laundry GFI and 1 GFI Bathroom is requested and all has to be 20 amp. Since 2018. The wire has to be supported by structure or staples every 4 feet.
Some requirements are not NEC code but city and state.
As far as the outside outlets go the box should be nailed to a wall stud or scab on a 2 by four and nail the box flush with the siding. Also service panel needs to be made up for inspection .
5:45 That exterior receptacle in the background... Who needs cables secured near boxes?
Yeah, I was thinking the screws in😊 the outside boxes weren’t too bad but if they’re not hitting any meat and just hit the siding that is bogus that will loosen up for sure
@sku32956 because it's not for a municipality and it's for an individual.( I know the guy that is building the house.) I think he's going to foam the walls, so this will likely be okay
But it could potentially push the boxes out of the wall when he foams, l o l
That's why I was not too thorough and critical during this inspection. As far as how many romex in each hole. Ect.
But yeah, it's not done right
Ufer acorn may not be rated for rebar use/connections.. it looks like it's the type for a ground rod. Not a big deal but?
Well they aren't using proper boxes or bonding bushings, so I think you are asking too much here. At least they bonded it.
Why is it all 12 to Romex what about some 14/2 everyone's a 20 amp circuit
Agreed. If you can afford to have your entire house wired with #12, you should be able to afford a better electrician lol
@jay9308 that's a good point, if I was building my own house.Though, for the total cost, I would just use number twelve on every circuit myself
With most lighting circuits 14 g is fine, especially with modern Lights,
L.ED's etc. In most places I deal with, any outlets/receptacles are 12 g
@@corvettefever360 These days with all LED lights they are using 10A breakers with 16 g wire as that is more than enough and saves cost......
@jaycahow4667 huh??? 10 Amp breakers, 16 gauge wire ? Maybe the fixtures themselves, the transformers , individual units. But not in the walls, to the receptacles, switches &/or to any panel.
Minimum 15 Amp breakers with 14 Guage wire.
What wire nuts do you recommend?
From my experience those rubber coated red and yellow Ideal brand are top of the line.
WAGO if you have to ask. Pros can debate wire nuts or wago but for amateurs wago only. Visual and tug confirmation
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I am all about the wago connectors ( lever nuts. )
I just was wondering why you were knocking on those particular wire nuts ?
I’ve found them to be top of the line , never cracked , never stripped, and in some weird odd cases seen them put up with a ridiculous amount of UV.
@@collinsmith9941 I wasn't knocking nuts.
The problems with the ones in the video had to many wires with insulation in the connector instead of just the copper.
Screws inside the box is perfectly fine! Its done all the time. Ive NEVER seen a inspector fail this ever.
@@willschultz5452 i'll show you the code when I get a chance
Also in general, you've always got the installation instructions against you. If you are, you didn't follow them
How is that even acceptable screwing boxes in the side of OSB not the face. There is no meat to hold the screws esp. when it starts to expand and contracts. Could have used metal cut-in-boxes with the F-clip or regular plastic as long as the OSB is under 5/8" instead. I would fail it if I was an inspector.
@@jackstiles458 But who the hell puts a recep in the middle of a stud bay supported by only the OSB? Even if allowed by some fluke, who would do that? Receps get unpredictable forces on them over the years. And exterior OSB is vulnerable to decay by moisture. (But I'm an H/O not an electrician, so waddaIknow).
@@mrcryptozoic817 you make a good point but sometimes it's what the client wants no matter our opinion. Those boxes should of been installed before the OSB was hung. Box brackets would of been the best option.
AV compressor looks to close to the wall.
24" is a minimum but insall would dictate the spacing directions
I’ve never seen so many exterior receptacles on a house! Are they planning to vacuum the lawn or something?
You DON'T need 240V gfci protection for temporary power main disconnect. Please provide code reference. I believe you're referring to branch circuit wiring.
That's a local requirement. Every AHJ has requirements.
In Florida We Install Ground Rod Below Meter, Connecting Wire Will Bond Slab Steel, 20' Minimum, and To Meter Can, I Connect To 2 40 Footers.
Going From Receptical to Receptical, He Runs Up Necessarily High. A Waste Of Wire, Helper Likely Didn't Have To Buy?
Maybe Easier To Drill Holes Without Stooping, Waste Of Wire?
Gotta Go
Oh Yeah, Will Have To Look Up The 240 Volt GFCI. THE 2 120 Volt Circuits Are Protected, Code Is About Safety, Is Safe, I Need To Look Up, Code Is Always Changing.
Screws in box's I've seen it pass inspection....usually should cover with tape
The electrician should have used old work boxes for the outside receptacles, the ones with the fold out tabs This job was obviously done on the cheap.
You’re not supposed to use old work boxes wherever you have access to the wall cavities. Should’ve done it right and cut it in on a stud or braced it out off of a block
Where in the NEC does it say you can't use old work boxes in accessible walls? I suppose one could use boxes with adjustable brackets.
@ I haven’t looked for it, I just don’t do it since I’ve had crews busted on it from IBI (city of Cincinnati / Hamilton county) NIC, and a few other ahj’s around greater cincy. I’m sure it’s in there, I assume that’s why they call them “old work” boxes instead of new work
2/0 CU 175a at 75 degree Column because terminations are rated as such and it’s SE? It would be 135a if it was AL, lemme know if that’s even close to right. 310.15(B).
@@Apache-Helicopter-Life yeah that's correct.
We have the eighty three percent rule in effect here as well.Because it's a residence.
As far as the copper goes, I'll have to look at the aluminum. When I get a chance
Eighty three percent of two hundred is. 166.
So any wire capable of delivering over 166 is good to go.
Wire nut should be should have electrical tape also . Did you count how many outlets per breaker and follow the 80 percent rule or did you assume that was just correct. Is the code in you're area 12/2 for 15 amp circuits? ? Or are all of thoose 20 amp outlets?
Please elaborate. Since when is there a rule to tape wire nuts but not devices in box, and what is the citation? And what is this 80% rule for number of outlets? AFAIK 2017 220.18 says load not to exceed 100% of branch circuit. And 210.23A1 210.21B2 address single piece of equipment not exceeding 80% of rated circuit. There is absolutely no code citation I can find limiting the number of receptacles taken off a branch circuit that is not dedicated to a piece of equipment. I agree there should be a limit on what a responsible electrician would install before adding circuits by common sense and clients wishes.
@blackmanops3749 its not code but still done and outlets and switches should have tape wrapped around them also.
How would you go about 240volt GFCI protection at the temp panel if they don't have any 240volt loads?
@jay9308 they must provide 1 plug if the panel has the capability for 240 a plug must be provided so no one tries to make it
Some companies are scheduled months in advance and are only there for 1 day to do one job, and they must have the power when they need it. So sometimes they take the cove off and try to make it. It's a safety hazard.
@@toolsandtactics 1 plug? But of what type and of what amperage?
@@shadygunshow any, typically i see a 20 or 30 wire rated and receptacle rated accordingly it's a rule i HATE because some times its just a stupid lease space and it will never get used
the offset nipple between meter and panel is not rated for outdoors. violation.
What about "Electrical equipment and cabling must be installed in a professional and skillful manner", per the 2023 (NEC). It doesn't look like an electrician rough wired that in. It was somebody that knows enough to be dangerous, and thats scary who ever has to trim out / finish work after drywall is put on. Plus who ever lives there. Its not safe.
19:29 Sorry for leaving so many comments, but kind of watching in real time. Our island does have NM-B underground in PVC conduit into the island. They wedged 2x 12-2WG in a 1/2" conduit another 2x 12-2WG in another and then to top it off they wedged a 10-2WG NMB into a 3rd 1/2" conduit as well. There is no way you can pull those wires, I have tried, they are so wedged in there. Why they didn't use a larger conduit I have no idea, again or how that was missed during inspections. 🤷♂🤦♂ I could tell that there were at least two people wiring the house as half the outlets / switches were wired different than the other half of them. They installed almost 197 outlets in the house and 108 switches, so it wasn't a little job. I had to replace all of them as in 2007 they used almond, it kept me busy doing all them for a while before we moved in. I hope your buddy holds the contractors responsible for sure, and fight the battle for sure to fix things.
It's possible they're just sleeved, and they poured concrete right over the n.M, it might not even be a continuous pvc. The amount of shortcuts that I see, just to save a couple of minutes is mind boggling
What’s with the 10ft of coiled wire sticking out of those porch lights??
@jamesmanyadventures they intend to install some type of recessed light that has a driver with a cord hanging off of it, and then the light itself plugs into that
It's fairly common. I don't like it, but having the drivers on-site. Separate from the lights at rough .Isn't that common
If your going to say it’s a code violation you should state the code section
@ChadingTon84 that's probably fair.It could have made the video that much better
Again that's what the comments are for.
I do like seeing other people's perspectives and not just forcing mine
Some codes aren't common sense, so it's good to see what you guys think
so.I can adjust how I inspect
Just like they know more than two romex per stud, you're actually allowed three percent code with the right conditions
for me to show you the code of where it says two , there's basically an exception that allows three. Romex in one hole
I thought code is wires must by stapled or supported within 12 inches of entering a box including the the main or sub panels. They should of used stack ems above those 3 and 4 gang boxes to support those wires. The factory puts more knock outs in boxes for a reason not to put 4 wires in one hole. My inspector would never allow those wires to be just traveling across the attic joist like that the wires would have to be drilled into the joist or put on a running board on top of the joist or truss so the romex can be stapled on top of it. Probably because we have to put in lots of blown in insulation and you would be tripping over loose wires. And Thats probably a square D sub panel it comes with the bonding screw already in that spot when you get it. It doesn't bond the case until you screw it in all the way. I guess square d is doing that because we always lost that little plastic bag with the bonding screw in it when we made up the panel. But Maybe they shouldn't do it to the sub panel box and only the main panel.
Totally agree re. attic. Are we the only two that has read that section of the code? It seems to be.
I really don’t think a license electrician did this Job. Just too much that’s incorrect
thanks for share the real codes how is has to be done god bless you
15:03 Well that is much better than what I have in my house. Here they wired all 5 bathrooms back to a single GFCI in one of the bathrooms. Its absolutely horrible, and I have no idea how it passed inspection. Only one hair dryer at a time for all the bathrooms. Heck we have 400A (320A) with split 40 space load centers as well, and over 5K SQ FT, and still have crap like this, and it was built in 2007. I can't imagine building something new now. 🤦♂🤷♂
Yeah, I really don't like that rule. They can wire every bathroom to one common circuit. It's really bad.I'll go to a final 3 story house 4 bathrooms and what I'll do is I have to plug in to verify powers on in all the bathrooms, then I'll trip it. Verify it tripped and then go.Make sure all the bathroom plugs are off
@@toolsandtactics Yeah its silly for sure. I have been thinking about breaking them apart as well and at least having 2 or 3 separate circuits. Just a pain in the rear for sure. They are so strict in kitchens about circuit loads, but could care less in the bathrooms that are much worse. We have anywhere from 4 to 8 outlets (2 gang (4 outlets) on each side of each sink) in each of the 5 bathrooms and have that single 20A circuit. Just from the device count its way over. Its a small town and you wonder how much they actually look when a large builder comes into town that they know. Not to pick on the inspectors 😁👍, but you know what I mean, do they actually get out of the car or rubber stamp things out of laziness just like the electricians. I would hope that most all inspectors do a thorough job like you, but I am sure there are some bad apples out there too, just like in all professions.
@Chris_In_Texas you never know! There are quite a few cities around here they are so busy the can't poorly do a good job. Are you more north texas?
@@toolsandtactics Yes in DFW area.
It's one gfi for the bathroom.😊😊😊😊
At about 17:30 youre talking amd crap....but its 6ft
@vincentcarrozza2334 it was six quick footsteps, but I put on the screen six foot seven inches because I measured it after.
Because this was for a friend. And a custom house,
I told my buddy he should add another
Those outside outlet boxes should be adjustable
There is no nec code on how many wires can run through a hole dude. It’s how ever many you can fit without damaging the sheathing.
Fax
Wall fixtures should have a round box and 8/32 screws
alot of guys dont realize theres different box sizes theres only so many wires per box
Sometimes you just need a junction box....lot of reasons i can think of for one. Need to branch off....or a big one, cost. All tradesman love to charge absolute top dollar and as many hours they can squeeze the customer for....
He missed all the Staples that warrant within 8 in of a single gang box with no clamp and 12 in of a box with a clamp, lot of violations there.
The amount of screws in the obscene amount of boxes is shocking ⚡️👀 🤦🏻♀️
4 wires per hole is NEC code. But a lot of cities do 2-3. Which just makes it weird. Be nice if inspectors had to cite the code they violate you on, then we'd all be on the same page more.
BTW the electrician for this job is downright horrible.... So many outside receptacles just right on the vertical trim, all will have to be cut to fit a cover later(like you said for the wall light). Bathroom light switch and receptacle box at different heights. Receptacle off switch box is fine and is indeed wired correctly. The switches are pigtailed, they aren't breaking the circuit to receptacle. No staple within 12-inches of box, so many times. Some line for marking boxes thats in the middle of them? be hard pressed to get those kitchen receptacles lined up together. The wire in attic for lights is fine, its for canless disc lights(you pop the hole exactly where you want it at trim out/after drywall. You get much better final results, for kitchen tops and everything else isn't always perfect). These just need to be where you can access it, not where it may go.
I'm sure I can see plenty more. I'd 100% fire these guys, they're not licensed electricians. One the first signs was wasting money on 12/2 for light fixtures, that they're not electricians. Probably all inclusive contractor.
12 gauge for lighting circuits in a home totally unnecessary especially today with LED lighting, 14 gauge is fine. It takes more time and space to terminate 12 gauge and set devices especially dimmers that take up more space so you need maximum size boxes
Looks to be a unlicensed electrical job. Non permitted/ handyman. U get what you pay for
A whip hanging with out a clamp present for a rough inspection is an issue? Dam not in my jurisdiction
Outside outlets are a good indication of guys being paid for piece work. Blow and go..
A Couple Things, The Outdoor Boxes Could Have A Cat Going Across The Back of Box, New Construction I ALWAYS Use 4 X 4, Code Says 4 X 4 or Equivalent. See Some Use 2 2X4's To Me, NOT Equivalent.
Needs To Strip Insulation Where It Enters Box,
I Wire Boxes So When Drywall and Paint is On, You Just Hook Up To Wiring, No Need To Add Pigtails. In The Kitchen Island, Cabinets Will Likely Be Where Plumbing Pipe is Directed. I See Pendants Overhead, Would Have A Receptical at Each End Of Island Under Counter Top, For Cell Chargers, Whatever, When Sitting At Likely Bar Stools. Have To Go To Go To Work, Will Miss End Of Video.
The Bathroom Missing Receptical Might Be In The Switch Box Due To Room.
Running lights in 12wire😊
U gonna get arrested for tresspassing..lol.. are you saying the 240 feeding the disconnect needs gfi?
According to the National Electrical Code (NEC), when securing a PVC electrical box, screws used should be "machine type with blunt ends" and should not extend more than 1/4 inch into the wiring space of the box, meaning they should only penetrate a limited distance into the box wall; if screws need to pass through the box, they must have protected threads to avoid damaging the wire insulation: The NEC and Mike Holt says you are wrong on the screws in those exterior boxes,
It's not a code requirement to pre twist solid wires wrong again
"3rd party courtesy insp" is trespassing on a construction site, a mind especially like yours has no business there.
Removing the flimsy romex lock - hello breaking and entering- felony
counter top spacing of recepts you assumed what the countertop layout was, the old saying it makes an a.s out of who?
What's most amazing is how you fit your ego inflated head through that double door
Dude who gave you permission to trespass and start taking apart somebody elses work? taking your inflated sense of self, spouting your non code opinions, I only watched 7.5 min, my advice to you is go find a shovel and dig a big hole, now backfill it and dig it again!
Code says 3 per hole. My state allows 5
Where does it say that? Nobody seems to be able to cite it. Personally I think it is confused with bundling and conduit fill and what constitutes such.
Santa Barbara and Ventura LU952
And no courtesy loops!
Make sure they aren't using 15a duplex receptacles for 240.. can't believe u find that all the time😱😱
23:03 you mention PEX out of bracket…you shoved it out of position when you touched it 22:47! At 22:40 your shot shows it in bracket! 😂
@carrangil i did move the pex, but never did I. Mention that it was a violation or anything wrong with it. I was more or less checking for to see if they had penetrated it
@@toolsandtacticsyou literally said it looks like it came out of the strap at some point. You are the one that pulled it out of the strap!
@@nateburns5933 Regardless, if it was that easy to pop then the water movement would have made it pop the first time water ran thru it. It looks like a plumbing inspection would fail too.
You can have as many wires through a hole in a stud as you want as long as it fits without damaging the romex🤷♂️
Not if it is fire caulked
@@pses1yes you are right
@@pses1 Wait. What? Please elaborate on the fire caulking.
Technically you can, but then you have to derate the ampacity of all the circuits that go through the same hole: so it's better to just bore another hole (without compromising any framing structural integrity).
@@blackmanops3749 If the hole is also filled with fire block then you are limited to the amount of wires that can go through the hole.
Seeing Cocina (kitchen) written on the NM speaks volumes on the caliber of “electricians” they have working there.
One's work speaks volumes about their caliber, not their preferred language.
Do you have to be an electrician to do rough in??? It's easy as he'll and hard to fail inspection...I ain't no electrician and roughed in many high end houses and passed inspection eveytime...
Good old ignorant racist shows his head. Every construction video.
It's been 2010 since illegal started getting paid more than white guys.
So if they're paid more, can you imagine how bad it would have been if it was bud light cans on site and white guys doing the work?
Looks like Arizona...
The NO BONDING SCREW call at th-cam.com/video/Q7MkXAPzG7U/w-d-xo.html , he just said he was worried about a screw piercing the plumbing, the neutral is there, where is the electrician going? Relocate the box. Some receptacle boxes do need corrected fasting/ mounting
Looks like the apprentices first time doing house by himself...
They're going to spend as much money fixing this mess as wiring it in the first place.
27:00 No Bushings or connectors protecting the wires from the thin, VERY sharp sheet metal of the Breaker panel Box...if I was an Inspector, not only would that be an INSTANT FAIL, you would get screamed at and issued both a FIX THIS RIGHT FREAKING NOW Order as well as 1 VERY nasty Fine PER MISSING BUSHING/CONNECTOR!!!
Merely forgetting to bond (Earth/Ground) a Device Box will get you Failed and FIRMLY spoken to as if you were a particularly slow Village Idiot, but unless you 'forgot' to bond more than 40% of the boxes, it won't get you Fined...
Screamed at? What are you a child?
It would not pass in the State of Texas
All around, a lazy, sh*tty job! Missing lots of nail plates. Outside boxes should be stubs to later add cut-in boxes or put on nail on boxes at rough, Ideal twister wire nuts instead of junk wirenuts. Why so much 12-2, where 14-2 would be more than adequate? Box make up is very messy! Too many romex cables through holes in studs and Top plates! Should have Cable Stackers(not code of course, but good practice) above multi-gang boxes,IMO. Forgetting to remove main bonding jumper screws in sub panels(Take them with you folks and put them in your van with subs), for getting to install them in service panels! Bushing instead of proper SER connector! Strap missing on Liqiud-tite! Bushings instead of proper NM Connectors on top of panel! Missing Receptacle Boxes? Missing mud ring for U-Fer Ground connection. J-box in attic is accessible, just not readily accessable.(IMO). Homeowner or Builder might be a real tight-wad too! Might be unsupervised apprentice too! Neither are an excuse! Thanks, Russ, 29 years in Electrical Trade.
It looks like a bang up job by the low bid. I can’t believe the way they butchered those outside boxes are just a box in general.
Saving money on the proper exterior boxes but spending it on unecessary 12-2 and the additional labor it brings. Ever heard the expression "penny-wise and pound-foolish"? I can tell you this outfit would have been dismissed long before it got close to this inspection.
I am a handyman and I do electrical jobs but the job is not acceptable
You don't say why there cannot be screws in the electrical outlet boxes. All you said was that they're not supposed to do it, without saying why.
Nail plates
First let me say. I agree with so much here. But also, Some of these codes are just....dumb...
The 6ft outlet, the gfci on the panel and cant be inline....some of it is just comical. Some of it makes you wonder who did what for them to write on paper (like requiring a wire nut on a connection, seems obvious to me). Whats it matter how many wores go through a hole? As long as it isnt overfilled shouldnt matter, better than a swiss cheese stud in some instances.
Didnt watch past your foyer inspection because your were already incorrect on outlet spacing. Foyer larger than 60sq ft require an outlet on every wall that is 3 feet or larger. Less than 60sq ft no outlets required. As for lights in soffit there is no code requiring that boxes or fixtures to be installed on rough. You could literally leave a whip for every light. Not the smartest decision but not code violation. Reason for leaving whips for wafers for me at least is so they dont get damaged while drywall and insulation is being done
@nickpomaro122 foyers open to interpretation
It had a long wall that went left and a short wall that went right into the living room
If you're standing in a space, it wasn't defined as a specific room, you could call it a foyer
But you clearly walk straight into the living room
@nickpomaro122 what about the code?Every box must be fan rated
The reason why we call things more strict is because of incompetence
I literally just left the job site where the guy didn't extend the cold water ground to the main service.And then he told me he knew we needed to do it.He was hoping I wouldn't find it
Never heard of an old work ceiling fan box?@toolsandtactics
NEC 110-14 (b)
They are using advanced frame(wiring?)... It's pretty bad looking!
I don’t get why they used 12 every where that makes it a lot harder to do all the work with led now a days using 14 and doing circuit at 80% is so much easier to ruff in obvious use 12 where required but right when you see 12-2 everywhere that’s a red flag right away they did a terrible job just imagine the same guy doing the finish work I would not sleep at night doing electrical work like that
Don't understand the reasoning why inspection allows all the extra outer casing on Romex going into the box and why they allow more than one wire into a single box entry..makes no sense. These plastic boxes are designed for one wire into one hole for the plastic clamp to work ..There is twelve entry points in a three gang plastic box ..Use them ..Never pass in Canada.
There is a code rule in the NEC limiting the amount of exposed sheathing in the box. As of 2017 it was 1/2". I'm told current code is 1/4", but nobody has given me a 2025 code book or a citation. lol.
As he said they slipped the sheathing and used it to identify/label.
Great info in this vid. Clear code explanations and reasons why .
I still got not call from the union lol
Bros pointing how many wires are in a hole….
No code violation…
Derated after 2 though, I believe.
After watching this video as an electrician i give you a C+ as an inspector. You're claiming code violations that actually aren't violations. I've seen code violations that you completely are unaware they are violations. Then you're touching anothers work and so it's your responsibility to put things back as you found them as much as possible. What you like is not what is required. And I get tired of inspectors giving what they like rather than giving what is correct.
As a client or clients representative I will most certainly pull stuff apart and put a big red tag or use my big red marker to call shit out. As this guy said, the contractors are not my friend. They are to be held to account. That is not being intentionally adversarial, it is a professional evaluation.