Multi Maneuvering is the best one hands down, I'm able to grapple 4x in a row then I have to wait a little which is like a 90% uptime to have the grapple ready which is crazy.
Farming the long range one on Fortress took me 49 tries, and I nearly gave up on the game. 37 tries to get Blair’s blueprint and still nothing. 20% chance my @$$.
The case if you need three grapples, I mean you lose you have a longer cool down so when you use all three you got longer cool down less range seems like it we just more effective to use one of the other ones
I gave up temporarily trying to get mid air maneuvering and went to try and get a legendary weapon I had my eye on. First recon mission I did gave me long distance. I was like wait a second is that.... Not the one I wanted, but will gladly use it for now. Edit: And I got mid air maneuvering... I don't even know when I got it, was just farming kuiper shards to max the other one and saw that the tracking of it showed 1/1.
incase you didnt know if you put the matching symbol of the hook on the sub skill slot you double the mod capacity gain. Instead of getting +10 mod capacity with a maxed out mod you get 20 (or so the hints say). I put the matching mod socket on with the +5 mid air hook and i get +8 to mod capacity. Think this increases exponentially just like other mods so you get more for higher lvl upto +20 at level 10
@@eliasruiz686 i know that now. Didnt have it maxed at the time but the ingame hints (during loading screens) did state that at max rank your sub mod would double your capacity gains from said mod if you polarize it. Not sure if the hint has been changed in recent patches but thats what it said and as we know that is not true, it only gives an extra 5 points not 10.
Took me 3 days to get freynas enhanced cells 20% chance drop i did it like Atleast 60 fucking times i love this game but i can tell its still in development while ppl are playing it which is okay but for ppl like me who still have ps4 the fps bassically cries in hells tortue bc you lag so bad
Matt vastly different. The only one that’s vastly different is the mid air maneuvering one that doesn’t require an anchor. It just goes out to max range anchors in the air and then you grapple to that spot but the first the one that gives you three just gives you an extra gravel, the other one just gives you more gravel there’s nothing fastly different about them and are they really ultimates? I really hadn’t looked at them, but are they really ultimates?
Multi is deceptive because you need to use it differently. It works best with repeatedly stringing floor grapples which resets the jumps and double jumps between em. Gives you 4 in a row and you can basically fly/hover just over head for a long while. Hard to do at first but after a while it just clicks. My screen actually blacks out about every 45 seconds (dont ask) and i can still do it in most cases just off the timing.
You can use lepic for the fire void fragments as well..his nade one shots the fragment..and I’ve done the sterile one over 100x now with 80x on normal…needless to say..no luck
Know what would be nice? If the grapple just had infinite "stacks" and no cooldown and didn't need farmed mods to make it better. I'll give you one guess what other looter shooter had a stamina system for movement tech long long ago, and players complained about it, so the devs removed that. Yet this game which mimics it heavily...decided to not do that. Interesting. 🤔
I get what youre saying but doing this would invalidate all movement skills, and even Bunny if we could infinite grapple everywhere. Although as a separate game mode, this could be a fun idea to have. I personally like the grapple hook a ton. Tho if anything i would ask that they lower the base cooldown just slightly to make speed running dungeons more comfy
As I was watching this vid one dropped from mobs while grinding for another nimble fingers mid in sterile lands normal, so it has a pretty wide drop table.
I’ve tried getting it straight for two days and no luck, and 6 days on and off. Managed to randomly get long distance and multi maneuvering though so for now i’m sticking with the former.
pointless to do. it only increases the infiltration timer. With a single modded Sharen you can deactive all the power units in 15 seconds. Then the boss has its own timer
defense has diminishing returns, it's max hp that's the real tank stat as it's a multiplier. Simple math every DOUBLING of defense is about 10% more actual defense....but every doubling of hp is actually doubling tankiness. Also when someone revives you or a heal it's 100% hp. So more hp the more valuable the revive. Elem resist is flat. So getting about 5k elec resist is about 20% of a hardmode bosses atk. and you would need about 8k to block 25%...in other words, this sucks more than defense stat. Also there's mods that are insane like recover 9% hp ever 2s on kill. If you have double the hp then you recover double the hp, ect.
@@shadymilkman443 I mean read the description for it you don't need to grapple to physical objects. How do you not see the inherent movement advantage it provides?
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think we can all agree that every grapple hook mod needs a buff.
Oh hell yeah the distance I can grab with this grapple hook is crap and needs an upgrade. Spider man games have been doing this and so can they lol
I found grappling hook lies about distance x3 time grabbing hook 18m is 16m and 25m is 23m I tested
I got the multi maneuvering early on and thought "oh noice" then after a few missions I was like I'm going back to default 😂
Multi Maneuvering is the best one hands down, I'm able to grapple 4x in a row then I have to wait a little which is like a 90% uptime to have the grapple ready which is crazy.
also if u use the crystallization on the slot where the melee/grapple slots go you get an extra 5 capacity. so 85 total capacity.
Farming the long range one on Fortress took me 49 tries, and I nearly gave up on the game. 37 tries to get Blair’s blueprint and still nothing. 20% chance my @$$.
I been farming the long rage for 3 days I couldn't even get it it's 1% chance for me and it's sucks
I posted my comment earlier and I've done the Fortress Mission around 130 times on normal and still nothing
10th try
First try
Idk man
Sounds like rng
Can it be bought?
If so I can see where this is heading.😮💨😂
@@buffywasright I gave up trying and wound up getting it randy. Go figure.
Quick tip Lepic is a Fire Descendant also
You can use Lepic for the fire void fragment as well.
Bro!!! I got the mid air grapple first try on 1.5% drop rate. You just earned a sub
I have the mid Air one. I like it.
In my experience disabling the surveillance tower actually gave me worst luck
The case if you need three grapples, I mean you lose you have a longer cool down so when you use all three you got longer cool down less range seems like it we just more effective to use one of the other ones
The floor is always close enough to grapple. To best use this one you grapple down, not up.
I gave up temporarily trying to get mid air maneuvering and went to try and get a legendary weapon I had my eye on. First recon mission I did gave me long distance. I was like wait a second is that.... Not the one I wanted, but will gladly use it for now.
Edit: And I got mid air maneuvering... I don't even know when I got it, was just farming kuiper shards to max the other one and saw that the tracking of it showed 1/1.
no one cares
Do they stack?
incase you didnt know if you put the matching symbol of the hook on the sub skill slot you double the mod capacity gain. Instead of getting +10 mod capacity with a maxed out mod you get 20 (or so the hints say). I put the matching mod socket on with the +5 mid air hook and i get +8 to mod capacity. Think this increases exponentially just like other mods so you get more for higher lvl upto +20 at level 10
No, you get 15 with the polarity
@@eliasruiz686 i know that now. Didnt have it maxed at the time but the ingame hints (during loading screens) did state that at max rank your sub mod would double your capacity gains from said mod if you polarize it. Not sure if the hint has been changed in recent patches but thats what it said and as we know that is not true, it only gives an extra 5 points not 10.
Great job again
Took me 3 days to get freynas enhanced cells 20% chance drop i did it like Atleast 60 fucking times i love this game but i can tell its still in development while ppl are playing it which is okay but for ppl like me who still have ps4 the fps bassically cries in hells tortue bc you lag so bad
Matt vastly different. The only one that’s vastly different is the mid air maneuvering one that doesn’t require an anchor. It just goes out to max range anchors in the air and then you grapple to that spot but the first the one that gives you three just gives you an extra gravel, the other one just gives you more gravel there’s nothing fastly different about them and are they really ultimates? I really hadn’t looked at them, but are they really ultimates?
Multi is deceptive because you need to use it differently. It works best with repeatedly stringing floor grapples which resets the jumps and double jumps between em. Gives you 4 in a row and you can basically fly/hover just over head for a long while. Hard to do at first but after a while it just clicks. My screen actually blacks out about every 45 seconds (dont ask) and i can still do it in most cases just off the timing.
Got the mod from doing the mission in Kingston 25 times
I need Blair Lepic uses fire as well. I do void missions fire void missions all the time with epic his grenade for instance
you dont need blair.. lepic + overcharge + grenade = fire damage. tried and tested multiple times.
You can use lepic for the fire void fragments as well..his nade one shots the fragment..and I’ve done the sterile one over 100x now with 80x on normal…needless to say..no luck
I can't wait to get to a higher level
I can try those other grapplings! Great video, DPJ!
We also need dmg grapplers as well
I've been farming for the multi- for 2 straight days. I've gotten about every other legendary mod in the process. Lol
Thunder cage best weapon
Is the Haven still best tho? 5% for 10 minutes seems low. in Frozen Valley you can do Munition Loading Docks fin 2minutes
Is that how you got yours?
I personally think long-distance is the best.
while farming the long distance maneuvering the multi maneuvering dropped for me
I gotta get that long distance maneuvering
you probably chose the worst mission for the long range grapple. Fighting the boss took 5+ more minutes than going to Command Relay on Fortress.
Keep up, mate❤
I think the surveillance towers can move
Mid air is definitely the best to me.
Need it
If it didn't reduce to one use then sure
I like long because I can speedrun on any character
Know what would be nice? If the grapple just had infinite "stacks" and no cooldown and didn't need farmed mods to make it better.
I'll give you one guess what other looter shooter had a stamina system for movement tech long long ago, and players complained about it, so the devs removed that. Yet this game which mimics it heavily...decided to not do that.
Interesting. 🤔
I get what youre saying but doing this would invalidate all movement skills, and even Bunny if we could infinite grapple everywhere.
Although as a separate game mode, this could be a fun idea to have.
I personally like the grapple hook a ton. Tho if anything i would ask that they lower the base cooldown just slightly to make speed running dungeons more comfy
you can also use lepic and esiemo for that void fragment not just blair
So I have mid air grapple I’ve had it for a while and no idea where I picked it up at, but I haven’t even finished the storyline to get to hard mode
As I was watching this vid one dropped from mobs while grinding for another nimble fingers mid in sterile lands normal, so it has a pretty wide drop table.
Go do one of those stupid orb collection missions and tell me if you wouldn't kill for a mid air maneuvering mod
I been running the Heaven for 6 days straight and 5 hrs a day and still nothing my RNG sucks on this Mod 😒
I feel your pain lol
@@Wildride420same
It took me so long to get Mid air manurvering
I’ve tried getting it straight for two days and no luck, and 6 days on and off. Managed to randomly get long distance and multi maneuvering though so for now i’m sticking with the former.
I’m convinced there lying and the things we want and need have a 0.025 drop rate
Disabling the surveillance towers increases the mission time by 1 minute
pointless to do. it only increases the infiltration timer. With a single modded Sharen you can deactive all the power units in 15 seconds. Then the boss has its own timer
Thanks man .
Been trying for a week and it won’t drop
i like my 3 stack grapple hooks random players even asked me how i got it
5% has become 1,5% - void fragment
1.5 for normal 5 for hard
Nice
Is there a way to grapple while you're in mid air? Mine never connects unless my feet are on the ground.
Yes, it works mid-air, been caught on a cliff many a time and had to be in midair to get back to surface level
none of them drop for me at all 4 days of farming
Thankyou man 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
how do you survive with only 2 k def in hard mode ?
defense has diminishing returns, it's max hp that's the real tank stat as it's a multiplier. Simple math every DOUBLING of defense is about 10% more actual defense....but every doubling of hp is actually doubling tankiness. Also when someone revives you or a heal it's 100% hp. So more hp the more valuable the revive.
Elem resist is flat. So getting about 5k elec resist is about 20% of a hardmode bosses atk. and you would need about 8k to block 25%...in other words, this sucks more than defense stat.
Also there's mods that are insane like recover 9% hp ever 2s on kill. If you have double the hp then you recover double the hp, ect.
Im i the only one who hears the d1 sound track
farmed the mid air on the heaven more than 30 times,didnt drop
Pls update me when it does
@@LaDaLegendi quit this item Farm..spend alot time on dif ways,in the end didnt get
They are not worth the use over the default
mid-air maneuvering absolutely is worth using over the default grapple
@@SJSharkBytewhat so great about it?
@@shadymilkman443 I mean read the description for it you don't need to grapple to physical objects. How do you not see the inherent movement advantage it provides?
Hell yea no point in grinding for it now they sucks
For people who are dumb just use access info to get stuff
Some have better drop chances pal
@Tx.aguirre23 which you can check through the access info dummy