All the tories have done is lie. Blame the poor. Blame the councils who they have witheld money from. Blame the junior doctors who they are unwilling to give a fair pay increase rise to. Blame migrants they let in.Blame labour who have not been in power for fourteen years. Blame the sick who are to poorly to work. Blame the war in Ukraine while big business made whopping prots from peoples financial despair.
@@sonofsomerset1695 "It's like remainers that blame Brexit Brexit for every problem" Only in your imagination. Remainers are very realistic, that's why we are remainers. We recognise that not all problems are due to Brexit, the pandemic, the Ukraine war & etc. But we can see that Brexit has made bad situations a lot worse than they would be otherwise.
Which is why its best for Labour voters to consider Reform as they would be a good opposition unlike the Tories and the alternative is keeping the Tories around like a bad stink and them returning at the next election 2029.
@@JohnTaylor-b5z Best bet is voting Reform then you get a decent opposition party to keep labour in check and guarantee that the Tories wont be coming back in future elections because at some point people will want to get rid of Labour.
@@royboy565 Lets see, North Sea windfall tax: Labour-Tory both agree. Unnecessary lockdowns that ruined the economy: Lab-Tory both agreed. The Net zero scam that will send energy and fuel bills through the roof for no effect on climate: Labour and tories both agree. Ignoring vaccine harms: Labour and Tory both agree. Both allowed mass immigration. So what exactly do Reform have more in common with the Tories than Labour do?
His lack of decency is best evidenced by his throwing, what, 250 of his colleagues under the electoral bus to save himself from a leadership challenge. That is truly sociopathic behaviour.
@@Hydraargyrum Someone should asked how many contracts info systems have gained since he was Chancellor and Prime minister. Tech services biz Infosys enjoyed a 49 per cent increase in its invoices from the UK government for 2023, according to research figures. The Indian company, founded by the father-in-law of British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak, has come under scrutiny as research from Tussell showed it billed £7 million ($8.87 million) in 2023, up from £4.7 million ($5.96 million) the previous year. The figure was higher in 2020 (£6.1 million / $7.73 million) and then dropped off.
Just think of the love-in at PMQs - Sir Ed Starmer asks Sir Kier Davies a question about how a policy doing good for the country could be better implemented, rather than a confrontation about why on earth the incompetant LizRishiBoris SunakJohnsonTruss is wasting public money on some divisive dogwhistling far-right anti-wokism culture-war policy that brings no benefits to anyone - except perhaps those in the far-right hierarchy or the Kremlin.
Lib-Dems support totally open borders. How well will that go down with the rest of the country? To be a 'liberal' and a 'democrat' is a contradiction in terms. Don't we already live in a 'liberal-democracy'? Democracy has been reduced to meaninglessness, because of the 'tyranny of the majority' argument. Freedom of speech has been reduced to 'correct speech' or else you'll lose your job or be imprisoned. Liberals support absolute control of our economy by the neoliberals. So, economic democracy is non-existent. Want loads more of the same, do you? Tyrannical liberalism? I asked a liberal about this and he said 'Oh well, sometimes it's necessary'. Yeah, who for? Sorry about the bold text.
To all those people who complain about a lack of "charisma" in our leaders: perhaps you need to reflect on what "charisma" actually is, and all those people who have had it and nothing else. A lot of people thought, and some still do, that Johnson - God help us - had "charisma".
He did but of a narcissistic kind, and he was always dodgy and any Tory clinging onto his political resurrection as one that may cause the same to happen at the ballot box is a wotsit.
Demagogues have unlimited charisma, however, I am more interested in actions and results. The say judge people by their actions, so if I am to judge on the past years then the conservatives are a steaming pile of horse manure
raising VAT overnight crushed any chance of economic recovery. quote GEORGE Osborne's decision to hike VAT will shave 0.3 per cent off GDP in 2011-12, the official independent forecaster said yesterday. Quote George Osborne's VAT rise illustrates an unbending truth of politics: it's easier to raise £13bn from the poor than upset VIPs
What do the tories expect? Whenever the UK is in trouble the first lever the tories pull is make the poor and vulnerable pay the price. Cut benefits, cut public spending, demonise the unemployed, demonise the asylum seekers, demonise the disabled. It worked for a long time but at last people are now seeing the light.
@@RRR4847-o9g what a complete crock of ****. If you want economic growth a vibrant economy you give money to poor people because the spend it. Give it to millionaires and it ends up locked in assets and savings doing zero for the economy. Example low corporation tax nearly all of the additional money was spent on share buy backs a complete and utter waste of tax.
Shouty rude and forked tongued.........thats Sunak...............and that bloke who asked are you two the best we have.........typical Farage question....Reform Party ..Plant.
Electoral Calculus have a very interesting prediction: Labour 450, Lib Dem 71, Conservative 60, SNP 23. Reform 19, Plaid 4, Green 4 It also has Rishi Sunak losing his seat in Richmond & Northallerton by 0.1%!
Interesting. It was also conducted before Farage dropped his Putin-fanboy bombshell, and is completely out of step with all the other MRP polls, and with more recent snapshot polls, which have all been showing a noticable drop in Reform support since that incident. But a poll conducted on behalf of GB News should be treated just the same as every other poll, with caution - and as giving a view of trends not of absolutes.
@marktrotter8971 the whole Russia thing has been overinflated. If you listen to what he actually said the West gave Putin an excuse to his people to invade, which is true and the same thing Boris said. The difference is that Farage will say what he thinks where other politicians say what will get them the most votes.
@@sonofsomerset1695yes, but the Tory’s have been in power 75% of that time, people forget how little labour have actually been in power over the last 150 years. In reality closer to a one party system!
@@chickenbites8877The Labour party didn't exist 150 years ago they weren't founded until 1900 and didn't form a Labour government until 1924 (and that was a minority government which only lasted from January 1924 to November 1924). Before that the two parties which had taken turns at governing were the Conservative party and Liberal party. It would be quite possible for it to be Labour and the LibDems being the two main parties taking turns at governing in the future with the Conservatives reduced to being the third party just as the Liberals were reduced to being the third party after the 1920s.
"Unprecedented swing - could easily swing back" keeps getting trotted out but largely misses the point. It's not "the swing", it's half the Tory voters abandoning the Tory party because they're too disgusted to carry on voting for them. Until that changes disappointment with Starmer will not be enough to revive them.
Politics isnt rocket science. As a country Our debt has trebled ..at the same time millionaires and billionaires have trebled their wealth....while ordinary people have seen their incomes nosedive comparatively.....this is where things have to change !!
I wonder who the left will blame when Labour sends energy and fuel prices through the roof with their ignorant net zero plans, Brexit or Russia I guess, and the gullible will still swallow it and keep voting Labour.
No. Labours millstone was Corbyn. They could not shake off the incessant barrage of Anti Semitism slurs every day from the TV and print media and Corbyn didn't help by not standing up to them
@@loud-and-proud-patriot No_ the media and the establishment didn't like Corbyn. Remember what Theresa May said to him in Parliament? "WE will ensure you do not win". Plain as day
It's been over a century since the Liberal Party was replaced by Labour as one of the two main parties. Not entirely impossible for the Conservatives to lose entirely and be replaced.
Starmer had no option but to join in the shouting due to an undisciplined PM and a totally ineffective adjudicator or was she as right wing as they could manage!!??
@glynsmith4590 Sunak's answer to everything is repeating utter lies and when challenged, raising his voice and shouting the same lies. It's breath taking this man is anywhere near government.
@@pip1723 Labour manifesto will be ignored, all you will get is high taxes. They had to have an ED Stone in order to stick to their manifesto as they are know for ignoring it. The green taxes will particularly bite, forget having a future.
@@graemeyetts3465 So truth's a constant. Don't expect constant innovation from me, please, I try to find a path forwards, but in this case, DNR is on the top page of the case notes. Something must follow, but with a strict bar on anyone mixed up in this crash. They cannot be trusted, have no judgment, and the first step is to get this election done. Once we know where we are, then we can find a path forwards.
That isn't really the problem what we've seen along with Liz Truss is the complete failure of Thatcherism, the current bunch are so welded to that ideology they cannot comprehend why deregulation and trickle down tax cuts has turned our economy into a stagnant cesspool yet their answer is to double down on the very thing that has failed for 14 years.
Improvements in life expectancy have slowed in the UK since the early 2010s. A recent study argued there have been over 300,000 excess deaths during this period, when comparing trends in life expectancy with those from before 2011. The authors of the study argue this is a result of austerity policies pursued by the government
The elderly man who asked are you two the best your parties have got was interviewed in the spin room. His two major concerns were inheritance tax and fuel duty. Obviously concerned about the state of the country and his fellow citizens NOT. Tories still have further to fall. Shy tories yes because they cannot look themselves in the mirror.
This time, it's Alzheimers. Their thinkers have deserted them, and if the only argument is duty, they're unelectable. Many don't consider Sunak decent, after crashing the economy for a quick cash raid in 2008, and then presuming we identify with them. In a way, this call to loyalty is a form of patriotism, defined in the first dictionary as the last refuge of a scoundrel.
Who is the male presenter, he sits there with a self satisfied smug look on his face all the time, I take it he's the most intelligent person in the country and knows everything
Spare a thought for journalists who must be running out of ways to say that the Tories are heading for a wallop the scale of which keeps looking worse and worse for them.
A super manority is an amercican thing. You only need a majority of 1 to have all the power in the UK. More MPs give you some protection against rebels, up to a point. Wish supposed experts would stop talking about a supermajority as if its a thing in the UK. It isnt.
One, I would define it as any majority of 100 or more seats. Two, I support Labour having a very large majority. However, If a party has that amount it would take more than 80 rebel members of that party to disrupt any legislation that the party wished to pass. Since the usual number of rebels in any party -left or right - is about 30-40 members the ruling party not only does not have to worry about the opposition but it also does not have to worry about upsetting its own somewhat more ideological MPs. That can lead to some unusual legislation.
Won't another election loss for the Tories be Tony Gallagher as editor of The Times? He is so out of step with the readership; post election map Times times sales to constituency colour and it overlay red and yellow. Bet there aren't many sales in Clacton. Something has to be done as the paper is currently heading down the path of the Telegraph, which will not exist come the next election.
If only Screaming Lord Such was still around to stand against the PM - there is a fighting chance he'd have got in. Not Sunak's fault though, he was always the sacrificial lamb - handed a poison chalice in the run up to the election, pre-determined by Johnson and Truss to be a monster disaster for the Tories.
I’m looking forward to contributing to the Tories having their worst ever defeat. They need to be taught a lesson they won’t forget that a torrent of lies, venal cruelty and off the charts corruption won’t go unpunished in an election.
This supermajority thing is a load of guff. It’s just a majority. Supermajorities aren’t a thing in British politics. However if we get a Tory superminority I’ll be pleased to see that exist…..
@adblocker276 It's a very good question, we have millions of intelligent able bodied adults in this country and like he said these two are the best we can come up with. Doesn't say a lot about the people of this country, when anyone is looking at either of these two to lead us!!!
@@johnburniston6525 I don't understand the first six words of your comment, I am the last person to use the term gammon and I'm not a Reform supporter...
In the US we have 2 unelectable candidates, the first an old old man, the second an old dishonest man. In the UK we have a 2 unelectable candidates, the first an political coward who had the power to fix problems and chose not to, and the second an pathetic lefty. What has the world come to......?
Populations of voters that are the mother lode of low awareness, low education, & high xenophobic public. That is when they began to use the same tactics on both sides of the pond. Drum-up anger at immigrants, cultural wars, “others” keeping “you” in fly-over country or the Red Wall down, etc. Why do you think a significant part of the Tories are now fervent far-right wingers just like our Repubs? Even your media is following the same “socialism is evil” mantra.
..... I hate that they won't answer a question with a straight answer!!!!! I accept sometimes it will be bad news { on the economy, for instance }, but, just tell us straight, fer goodness sake!!!!! We hate the waffle & BS more than anything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Rishi's performance" was one of a petulant, spoilt prep school child. "It wasn't me Right, look at him right, he's worse ,right. "He'll eat your Labrador's sack your servants and burn your stables, Right".
You broadcasters and interviewers should have been asking Sir K whether he believes in trickle-down. His whole schtick being wealth creation contingent on growth is little more than prettily repackaged trickle-down.
Tories do not want to vote for Sunak as his agenda is way off line. Labour are deeply unhappy with Starmer as the old Corbanista now is a pale shadow of what he really once was & is aimless. Farage is mainly Immigration focused & Davey acts like a clown. Greens take in Islamist & have lost the plot. So voting is not obvious is it?
im voting labour this time because labour have a plan, that seems like it could work. we need growth and the labour party are the only ones talking about it. refuk immigration and privatising the NHS and the tories are tax tax and tax, oh did i mention tax, tax tax and tax, then tax tax tax tax tax,
@@shaun906 Labour have a plan alright, the same as the tories, to push net zero for their global masters, making everyone poorer to transfer money to the rich.
To expand on the point about why the two major parties have a lower vote share these days, I think it was borne out of the Brexit referendum, as we all realised, that politics was no longer just a battle of Left-versus-Right, but that other parties may also have specific policies, which appealed to us, so the broad-church parties became less appealing. What should a Tory Remainer or a Labour Leaver do, and what about social values, be they liberal or conservative? Voters are asking which party understands their demographic in terms of age, social class, educational level, etc. All those factors have driven people to look beyond the battle between the two big parties, and that was much less the case before the Brexit referendum, as we all knew then that we were either right-of-centre or left-of-centre, and that was largely as far as it went!
None on me, I'd already decided to vote tactically against the Conservative in my area. I like Starmer though no one is perfect, but I detest Sunak and the current Conservative party. I don't think Sunak is decent or doing what he thinks is best for the country at all I keep hearing that particularly on your channel, I just don't see it that way.
Neither are decent men, Starmer refuses to publish the report into racism within Labour or distance himself from the genocidal friends of Israel group instead removing anti genocide candidates and replacing them with ethno nationalists..Sunak is the inheritor and part architect of 14 years of misery and austerity
These so called debate are a waste of time. With one week to go, if you have not already decided, then tis debate will not alter that fact. From now until the election, the poles are not going to move that much. But the whole format of the debate as unbelievable and a to total embarrassment. You have Sunak repeat prevent lies like they are facts, shout over the chair and opposition, he looked like he was reading from notes provide. He look petulant and weasel like, “don’t Surrender” the new plea mantra, begging for people to like him, a school boy in a playground that no one wants to play with. The audience seemed a one sided demographic asking what looked like planted questions. The chair was weak and had no control. I found the whole debate to be unprofessional and an insult to the British people who wanted a clear discussion on the merits of both parties and policies, and not a p!ssing match. Both candidates and the BBC did not come over at all well.
@@redlightmax Already have, Reform rebels arent dumb tirbal voters propping up the corrupt establishment of tory-labour, expecting a different result form all their past failures and lies.
All the tories have done is lie. Blame the poor. Blame the councils who they have witheld money from. Blame the junior doctors who they are unwilling to give a fair pay increase rise to. Blame migrants they let in.Blame labour who have not been in power for fourteen years. Blame the sick who are to poorly to work. Blame the war in Ukraine while big business made whopping prots from peoples financial despair.
The Tories have gone down with a really bad case of BSE_____ Blame Someone Else
Shouting "But Labour! But Labour!" as they hurtle downwards. Unrepentant, corrupt, cruel bullies to the bitter end.
It's like remainers that blame Brexit Brexit for every problem.
It will get worse under Labour before it gets better.
Surreal tho' that may sound to some that's how I read it.
60 months.
@@sonofsomerset1695
"It's like remainers that blame Brexit Brexit for every problem"
Only in your imagination. Remainers are very realistic, that's why we are remainers. We recognise that not all problems are due to Brexit, the pandemic, the Ukraine war & etc. But we can see that Brexit has made bad situations a lot worse than they would be otherwise.
... that's Labour for you.😅
If tories are the opposition then they will come back in some form. If they don't come second, then their funding will collapse and they may be gone.
Probably. But it could also happen that a third party impresses the voters instead, and the Tories are relegated to the margins at the next election.
Which is why its best for Labour voters to consider Reform as they would be a good opposition unlike the Tories and the alternative is keeping the Tories around like a bad stink and them returning at the next election 2029.
Lets consign the tories to the history books, enough corruption for one life time
Stop the Tories dot Vote
@@mikesmith5139 vote labour to make sure we rid ourselves from these corrupt conservatives
@@JohnTaylor-b5z Vote Reform not Labour or Conservative
@@JohnTaylor-b5z Corrupt socialists instead?
@@JohnTaylor-b5z Best bet is voting Reform then you get a decent opposition party to keep labour in check and guarantee that the Tories wont be coming back in future elections because at some point people will want to get rid of Labour.
"Do your duty" - vote the Tories out in record numbers.
@@BrokenHill56 as long as its a vote for reform, voting in Labour is like voting in Tories x2
@@2strokesmoke783Reform are tories in different clothes.
@@2strokesmoke783 You're talking out your backside
@@royboy565 Lets see, North Sea windfall tax: Labour-Tory both agree. Unnecessary lockdowns that ruined the economy: Lab-Tory both agreed. The Net zero scam that will send energy and fuel bills through the roof for no effect on climate: Labour and tories both agree. Ignoring vaccine harms: Labour and Tory both agree. Both allowed mass immigration.
So what exactly do Reform have more in common with the Tories than Labour do?
@@2strokesmoke783 the Tory`s.Even after you kick them out you're still have to pay for them....!
Sunak isn't decent, nor does he care about the country.
Him and his ilk seem more interested in lining their own pockets than in the betterment of the country.
His lack of decency is best evidenced by his throwing, what, 250 of his colleagues under the electoral bus to save himself from a leadership challenge. That is truly sociopathic behaviour.
@@Hydraargyrum Someone should asked how many contracts info systems have gained since he was Chancellor and Prime minister.
Tech services biz Infosys enjoyed a 49 per cent increase in its invoices from the UK government for 2023, according to research figures.
The Indian company, founded by the father-in-law of British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak, has come under scrutiny as research from Tussell showed it billed £7 million ($8.87 million) in 2023, up from £4.7 million ($5.96 million) the previous year. The figure was higher in 2020 (£6.1 million / $7.73 million) and then dropped off.
14 years of them helping themselves to our money. Baroness Moan PPE conservative laughing her head off in the Caribbean
Why is white collar crime so under reported.?
Because it's so prevalent.@BusstterNutt
Agree 100%, peretty sure she's been made the designated skapegoat and was really just the tip of a massive embezzlement iceberg.
You know, I feel like I've been hearing "14 years" for the last 14 years at this point. This record is almost as broken as the Tories.
Wait till Labour get in, they will do more damage 'financially'.
Anyone who demonises disabled people has not a shred of decency
he's on about taking us out of the European commission for human rights to . sunak isn't uses to not getting is own way
both the tories and reform are doing that its what the right does
“The Tories will ‘smash through the floor with lowest ever vote’ “ - that’s bad news how?
Bad news for the Tory party spokespeople at The Times, good news for the country!
That would make my day! the next 5 years without hearing the self entitled Tories poisoning the airwaves.
@@LeonChattington If only we could say the same about Farage.
@@JohnHollyoak-vx6pn If you disrespect other voters, you've lost your argument.
You don't want to hurt a man who wears glasses do you (no matter how many british lives he has cost)?
One Tory minster asked a journalist yesterday - 'Why aren't our lies working?' Says it all.
Link to audio or....
Campbell mentioned the “normalisation of lies in politics” in a sound bite the independent media jumped on yesterday.
Because you been caught out this time
The Times jumping through hoops here to spin the tory narrative here.
Only because they're trying to stop Reform's massive surge.
I have my popcorn ready for election night.
LOL me too :) We are going to see many high profile Tories toppled.
I'm like a kid counting down the days to Christmas.
There will be dancing in the streets.🥳
Good luck 🤞 Reform UK hated by all the right people
@@tolremme too!
80 seats is 80 seats, too many!
agreed
I would not be surprised to see the Lib-Dems as the opposition party....
It would be very positive. I would like a Labour-Liberal government, as a Labour supporter.
Just think of the love-in at PMQs - Sir Ed Starmer asks Sir Kier Davies a question about how a policy doing good for the country could be better implemented, rather than a confrontation about why on earth the incompetant LizRishiBoris SunakJohnsonTruss is wasting public money on some divisive dogwhistling far-right anti-wokism culture-war policy that brings no benefits to anyone - except perhaps those in the far-right hierarchy or the Kremlin.
That's what I am deeply hoping for - it will be transformational
Lib-Dems support totally open borders. How well will that go down with the rest of the country? To be a 'liberal' and a 'democrat' is a contradiction in terms. Don't we already live in a 'liberal-democracy'? Democracy has been reduced to meaninglessness, because of the 'tyranny of the majority' argument. Freedom of speech has been reduced to 'correct speech' or else you'll lose your job or be imprisoned. Liberals support absolute control of our economy by the neoliberals. So, economic democracy is non-existent. Want loads more of the same, do you? Tyrannical liberalism? I asked a liberal about this and he said 'Oh well, sometimes it's necessary'. Yeah, who for?
Sorry about the bold text.
The wealth flight would be unprecedented. Well Done.
Well everything the Tories do is always "world beating" to quote their favorite gaslighting phrase, so why should this be any different 🤔 😂
Sunak constantly gaslights everyone during debates. Gaslighting voters too.
Seem to be politically "oven ready", too, metaphorically speaking...... They are cooked....
@@Hydraargyrum 🤣😂
To all those people who complain about a lack of "charisma" in our leaders: perhaps you need to reflect on what "charisma" actually is, and all those people who have had it and nothing else. A lot of people thought, and some still do, that Johnson - God help us - had "charisma".
@tommymorrison6478 Johnson was installed to sell the 'pandemic' and oh how the masses fell for it!
He did but of a narcissistic kind, and he was always dodgy and any Tory clinging onto his political resurrection as one that may cause the same to happen at the ballot box is a wotsit.
Demagogues have unlimited charisma, however, I am more interested in actions and results. The say judge people by their actions, so if I am to judge on the past years then the conservatives are a steaming pile of horse manure
14 years Osborne rinsed us and people still think the Tories are amazing..🤪
raising VAT overnight crushed any chance of economic recovery.
quote
GEORGE Osborne's decision to hike VAT will shave 0.3 per cent off GDP in 2011-12, the official independent forecaster said yesterday.
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George Osborne's VAT rise illustrates an unbending truth of politics: it's easier to raise £13bn from the poor than upset VIPs
not many though
What do the tories expect? Whenever the UK is in trouble the first lever the tories pull is make the poor and vulnerable pay the price. Cut benefits, cut public spending, demonise the unemployed, demonise the asylum seekers, demonise the disabled. It worked for a long time but at last people are now seeing the light.
@@SlowhandGregraising VAT is a fair way to invest in our public services. The "poor" use them more so should pay for them.
@@RRR4847-o9g what a complete crock of ****.
If you want economic growth a vibrant economy you give money to poor people because the spend it.
Give it to millionaires and it ends up locked in assets and savings doing zero for the economy.
Example low corporation tax nearly all of the additional money was spent on share buy backs a complete and utter waste of tax.
Shouty rude and forked tongued.........thats Sunak...............and that bloke who asked are you two the best we have.........typical Farage question....Reform Party ..Plant.
Only one of them was shouting and talking over the other… Hacks!
Electoral Calculus have a very interesting prediction: Labour 450, Lib Dem 71, Conservative 60, SNP 23. Reform 19, Plaid 4, Green 4
It also has Rishi Sunak losing his seat in Richmond & Northallerton by 0.1%!
Interesting.
It was also conducted before Farage dropped his Putin-fanboy bombshell, and is completely out of step with all the other MRP polls, and with more recent snapshot polls, which have all been showing a noticable drop in Reform support since that incident.
But a poll conducted on behalf of GB News should be treated just the same as every other poll, with caution - and as giving a view of trends not of absolutes.
@marktrotter8971 the whole Russia thing has been overinflated.
If you listen to what he actually said the West gave Putin an excuse to his people to invade, which is true and the same thing Boris said.
The difference is that Farage will say what he thinks where other politicians say what will get them the most votes.
I expect Reform to get under 10 - Nigel Farage gets the publicity, but their candidates are fruitcakes.
“Only a week to go” thank goodness for that 🤦🏻♂️
If we all work together, we can make sure they don’t exist after 4th July
If Labour exist so will the tories, they take it in turns.
@@sonofsomerset1695yes, but the Tory’s have been in power 75% of that time, people forget how little labour have actually been in power over the last 150 years. In reality closer to a one party system!
@@chickenbites8877The Labour party didn't exist 150 years ago they weren't founded until 1900 and didn't form a Labour government until 1924 (and that was a minority government which only lasted from January 1924 to November 1924). Before that the two parties which had taken turns at governing were the Conservative party and Liberal party.
It would be quite possible for it to be Labour and the LibDems being the two main parties taking turns at governing in the future with the Conservatives reduced to being the third party just as the Liberals were reduced to being the third party after the 1920s.
@@davidwebb4451 ok 100 years then, regardless the Tory’s have been in power he longest
Lets not be complacent folks, go out and vote.
Dont worry, we're voting Reform!
@@sonofsomerset1695 Have you bought your black boots, brown shirt, and tiki torch yet?
@@gregorybiestek3431 Why, so I can march in London every week against the Jews with the left?
after 14 years they've reached the bottom of the barrel.we need to elect better people than these.
" they've reached the bottom of the barrel"
Err, they still have a week to find new barrel bottoms to be scraped
Tory and Labour are both useless, closely followed by Lib Dems and Green, all useless.
The Tories, no longer Stop the Boats, more like desperately trying to Stop the Votes
The Tories aren't even get to be the opposition. Personally I love this.
*THE DESPERATION* on this channel is astonishing
Times Radio is owned by Rupert Murdoch.
@@californiadreamin8423 Yes, and it's so clear, even when they try hard to cover up.
The Tories have a new motto. "It wouldn't be appropriate to comment while the police are investigating".
Nice one. Can it be compressed into a three word slogan?
ZERO Seats!
As the Tories keep saying, "it's what the British people want", we have had enough of the corrupt charlatans
Labour are the sister party to the Tories, both the same policies.
@@billkingston4402 your so right
"Unprecedented swing - could easily swing back" keeps getting trotted out but largely misses the point. It's not "the swing", it's half the Tory voters abandoning the Tory party because they're too disgusted to carry on voting for them. Until that changes disappointment with Starmer will not be enough to revive them.
Politics isnt rocket science. As a country Our debt has trebled ..at the same time millionaires and billionaires have trebled their wealth....while ordinary people have seen their incomes nosedive comparatively.....this is where things have to change !!
But how does that happen with an endless supply of Labour? You will be voting to get poorer under Labour.
If not for Brexit labour wouldn't have lost in 2019...
I wonder who the left will blame when Labour sends energy and fuel prices through the roof with their ignorant net zero plans, Brexit or Russia I guess, and the gullible will still swallow it and keep voting Labour.
No. Labours millstone was Corbyn. They could not shake off the incessant barrage of Anti Semitism slurs every day from the TV and print media and Corbyn didn't help by not standing up to them
No chance. The country didn't like Corbyn
@@loud-and-proud-patriot No_ the media and the establishment didn't like Corbyn. Remember what Theresa May said to him in Parliament? "WE will ensure you do not win". Plain as day
It's been over a century since the Liberal Party was replaced by Labour as one of the two main parties. Not entirely impossible for the Conservatives to lose entirely and be replaced.
Sorry but for the Tories it is all over, what nonsense is this that the Tories are not finished!
I beg to differ but the future will prove whoever is right. right....
I totally disagree iam related to williams who did the bet rishi told him to he's a disgrace
You muppet
... the Tories have just started😅
@@carolewaller3613 The torys are finished ya 🙌
Starmer had no option but to join in the shouting due to an undisciplined PM and a totally ineffective adjudicator or was she as right wing as they could manage!!??
The moderator was obviously bias
@glynsmith4590 Sunak's answer to everything is repeating utter lies and when challenged, raising his voice and shouting the same lies. It's breath taking this man is anywhere near government.
@@Dude-etiquette biased
@@stoobydootoo4098 Biased, you are right
@@Dude-etiquette The BBC is pro Tory and Fiona is pro Tory, her husband works for the Tories!
The Tories have scored more own goals than a blind centre back .. what did they expect
Why do they always show that guy smirking and chewing his pen when he's not party to the discussion?
was wondering that too
Tories out now 😡😡😡😡
Vote Reform or you're just as bad.
Labour government next Friday 👍reform manifesto has more holes in it than my old string vest big on promises little on detail .
@@sonofsomerset1695 Have you bought your black boots, brown shirt, and tiki torch yet?
@@pip1723 Labour manifesto will be ignored, all you will get is high taxes. They had to have an ED Stone in order to stick to their manifesto as they are know for ignoring it. The green taxes will particularly bite, forget having a future.
Tories in... Labour in the bin😊
If you can't argue a case, blame the polls. What a superb way to defend the indefensible.
Clever but not an original idea.😂
@@graemeyetts3465 So truth's a constant. Don't expect constant innovation from me, please, I try to find a path forwards, but in this case, DNR is on the top page of the case notes. Something must follow, but with a strict bar on anyone mixed up in this crash. They cannot be trusted, have no judgment, and the first step is to get this election done. Once we know where we are, then we can find a path forwards.
Who would have thought installing a leader no one wanted, not even the members, would lead to problems.
As opposed to what? A leader that a majority of the country wanted and who was a liar and an incompetent, corrupt, clown? That leader?
That isn't really the problem what we've seen along with Liz Truss is the complete failure of Thatcherism, the current bunch are so welded to that ideology they cannot comprehend why deregulation and trickle down tax cuts has turned our economy into a stagnant cesspool yet their answer is to double down on the very thing that has failed for 14 years.
@@tommymorrison6478 Maybe they are refering to the leader that tanked the economy and got outlasted by a lettuce.
@@superhumantrueman Truss was the darling of the City of London, job done.
THE MOST ANNOYING THING IS THAT BORIS WON'T BE BLAMED FOR IT.
WHEN HE IS TOTALLY RESPONSIBLE.
Improvements in life expectancy have slowed in the UK since the early 2010s. A recent study argued there have been over 300,000 excess deaths during this period, when comparing trends in life expectancy with those from before 2011. The authors of the study argue this is a result of austerity policies pursued by the government
This needs to get more publicity.
The elderly man who asked are you two the best your parties have got was interviewed in the spin room. His two major concerns were inheritance tax and fuel duty. Obviously concerned about the state of the country and his fellow citizens NOT. Tories still have further to fall. Shy tories yes because they cannot look themselves in the mirror.
Why this constant focus on two individuals? It's not a presidential election, we are voting for parties & platforms.
The Tories are the great survivors of UK politics. They are this time running close to the edge.
It’s over for them they can never win an election again with reform being there
This time, it's Alzheimers. Their thinkers have deserted them, and if the only argument is duty, they're unelectable. Many don't consider Sunak decent, after crashing the economy for a quick cash raid in 2008, and then presuming we identify with them. In a way, this call to loyalty is a form of patriotism, defined in the first dictionary as the last refuge of a scoundrel.
Time for the voting public to have their revenge!!
Who is the male presenter, he sits there with a self satisfied smug look on his face all the time, I take it he's the most intelligent person in the country and knows everything
Spare a thought for journalists who must be running out of ways to say that the Tories are heading for a wallop the scale of which keeps looking worse and worse for them.
A super manority is an amercican thing. You only need a majority of 1 to have all the power in the UK. More MPs give you some protection against rebels, up to a point. Wish supposed experts would stop talking about a supermajority as if its a thing in the UK. It isnt.
One, I would define it as any majority of 100 or more seats. Two, I support Labour having a very large majority. However, If a party has that amount it would take more than 80 rebel members of that party to disrupt any legislation that the party wished to pass. Since the usual number of rebels in any party -left or right - is about 30-40 members the ruling party not only does not have to worry about the opposition but it also does not have to worry about upsetting its own somewhat more ideological MPs. That can lead to some unusual legislation.
Two Reform MPs? That party will be split in no time at all. It's the Nigel Farage show or no show.
Who is this person?
Lord Cooper of Windrush. Wikipedia says it all.
Excellent news. Lowest ever Tory vote - The only disappointing thing is that it wont be low enough, unless it's fewer than 50 seats.
Its only excellent news if their partners Labour were also going to be the lowest ever.
Stop the Tories dot Vote
Won't another election loss for the Tories be Tony Gallagher as editor of The Times? He is so out of step with the readership; post election map Times times sales to constituency colour and it overlay red and yellow. Bet there aren't many sales in Clacton. Something has to be done as the paper is currently heading down the path of the Telegraph, which will not exist come the next election.
Can the bloke stop chewing his pen and curling his lip. Come on bit of professionalism Times radio.
If only Screaming Lord Such was still around to stand against the PM - there is a fighting chance he'd have got in. Not Sunak's fault though, he was always the sacrificial lamb - handed a poison chalice in the run up to the election, pre-determined by Johnson and Truss to be a monster disaster for the Tories.
All Tories are evil...end of!
I’m looking forward to contributing to the Tories having their worst ever defeat. They need to be taught a lesson they won’t forget that a torrent of lies, venal cruelty and off the charts corruption won’t go unpunished in an election.
This supermajority thing is a load of guff. It’s just a majority. Supermajorities aren’t a thing in British politics. However if we get a Tory superminority I’ll be pleased to see that exist…..
What’s that guy there chewing his pen, is he the clown act for viewer distraction?
Cut to guy with beard chewing pen. FFS
What do they expect?
Tories are toast.
Now, it is merely a matter of the colour of the bread when it pops up.
That Sunak is an utter rotter, is beyond dispute
We finally got rid of Abu Clawhammer and let in 500,000 dont-know-who-they-are's 😮😬 high security risk.
More like the behavour of the Cons / Tory Party over the past 14 year's...not just 4 or 5 years....
27 years between the two main parties has led to the state this country is in and the fools are letting it happen all over again.
That old man who asked if these two are the best we could manage - he appears to have grown older but none the wiser. What a pointless question
He was a prize example of a Gammon.🙃
Or a Reformer who sneaked in
@adblocker276 It's a very good question, we have millions of intelligent able bodied adults in this country and like he said these two are the best we can come up with. Doesn't say a lot about the people of this country, when anyone is looking at either of these two to lead us!!!
@@boota1979 I do like gammon,clever reformer,so it is a very good question AND I am an old man of 90.
@@johnburniston6525 I don't understand the first six words of your comment, I am the last person to use the term gammon and I'm not a Reform supporter...
Tories heading for a 'World Beating' loss... Oh, the irony...
In the US we have 2 unelectable candidates, the first an old old man, the second an old dishonest man. In the UK we have a 2 unelectable candidates, the first an political coward who had the power to fix problems and chose not to, and the second an pathetic lefty. What has the world come to......?
Populations of voters that are the mother lode of low awareness, low education, & high xenophobic public. That is when they began to use the same tactics on both sides of the pond. Drum-up anger at immigrants, cultural wars, “others” keeping “you” in fly-over country or the Red Wall down, etc. Why do you think a significant part of the Tories are now fervent far-right wingers just like our Repubs? Even your media is following the same “socialism is evil” mantra.
Was Cooper in Downing Street when the Brexit referendum decision was made?
They didn't "shout over each other"; one shouted over the other, and we know who that was!
Who is pen chew guy?
Just voted Green in Norwich.❎❎❎❎❎ Never will vote for Tory Starmer!!!!
..... I hate that they won't answer a question with a straight answer!!!!! I accept sometimes it will be bad news { on the economy, for instance }, but, just tell us straight, fer goodness sake!!!!! We hate the waffle & BS more than anything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Rishi's performance" was one of a petulant, spoilt prep school child. "It wasn't me Right, look at him right, he's worse ,right. "He'll eat your Labrador's sack your servants and burn your stables, Right".
I reckon if they get 7 million votes, they'll be doing cartwheels. They got nearly 14 million in 2019.
Politics aside for a moment... the cameraperson's/editor's choice of close-ups was amusing in places. BTW who is the bearded person?
If we all vote Reform, we no longer have to be bother with the existing two-party dominance.
If Reform get in there will be one party dominance, just like Russia!!!!
But we will need to bother with Putin as he will rule us!
@@taefravis Yeah because Putin wants the UK to have stronger borders under Reform doesnt he? Get a clue instead of parroting media propaganda.
Hey Michael, have you bought your black boots, brown shirt, and tiki torch yet?
... so it's goodbye to the TripleLock+ pension then.... what a shame for pensioners. May the Tories win, for them.
This is what happens when you do the opposite of what your voters want.
And selling out to the Whisky Echo brigade like Labour. Wait until they realise what they have let in.
No surrender, didn’t realise that Richie’s constituency was in NI, or is he doing a swap, as he is struggling in Richmond and North Allerton
You broadcasters and interviewers should have been asking Sir K whether he believes in trickle-down. His whole schtick being wealth creation contingent on growth is little more than prettily repackaged trickle-down.
Tories do not want to vote for Sunak as his agenda is way off line. Labour are deeply unhappy with Starmer as the old Corbanista now is a pale shadow of what he really once was & is aimless. Farage is mainly Immigration focused & Davey acts like a clown. Greens take in Islamist & have lost the plot. So voting is not obvious is it?
Some people just vote for colour on the ballot box red or blue. Its time for change vote others
im voting labour this time because labour have a plan, that seems like it could work. we need growth and the labour party are the only ones talking about it. refuk immigration and privatising the NHS and the tories are tax tax and tax, oh did i mention tax, tax tax and tax, then tax tax tax tax tax,
@@shaun906 Labour have a plan alright, the same as the tories, to push net zero for their global masters, making everyone poorer to transfer money to the rich.
To expand on the point about why the two major parties have a lower vote share these days, I think it was borne out of the Brexit referendum, as we all realised, that politics was no longer just a battle of Left-versus-Right, but that other parties may also have specific policies, which appealed to us, so the broad-church parties became less appealing. What should a Tory Remainer or a Labour Leaver do, and what about social values, be they liberal or conservative? Voters are asking which party understands their demographic in terms of age, social class, educational level, etc. All those factors have driven people to look beyond the battle between the two big parties, and that was much less the case before the Brexit referendum, as we all knew then that we were either right-of-centre or left-of-centre, and that was largely as far as it went!
None on me, I'd already decided to vote tactically against the Conservative in my area. I like Starmer though no one is perfect, but I detest Sunak and the current Conservative party. I don't think Sunak is decent or doing what he thinks is best for the country at all I keep hearing that particularly on your channel, I just don't see it that way.
Neither are decent men, Starmer refuses to publish the report into racism within Labour or distance himself from the genocidal friends of Israel group instead removing anti genocide candidates and replacing them with ethno nationalists..Sunak is the inheritor and part architect of 14 years of misery and austerity
"Ground-Breaking"
Front-runners to be the biggest losers of all time
These so called debate are a waste of time. With one week to go, if you have not already decided, then tis debate will not alter that fact. From now until the election, the poles are not going to move that much.
But the whole format of the debate as unbelievable and a to total embarrassment. You have Sunak repeat prevent lies like they are facts, shout over the chair and opposition, he looked like he was reading from notes provide. He look petulant and weasel like, “don’t Surrender” the new plea mantra, begging for people to like him, a school boy in a playground that no one wants to play with. The audience seemed a one sided demographic asking what looked like planted questions. The chair was weak and had no control.
I found the whole debate to be unprofessional and an insult to the British people who wanted a clear discussion on the merits of both parties and policies, and not a p!ssing match.
Both candidates and the BBC did not come over at all well.
He never had public backing Rishi was forced on us his own party didn't even want him as leader
I'm voting reform
You are voting for Putin!
Not if Reform's candidates keep dropping out, you're not.
@@redlightmax Already have, Reform rebels arent dumb tirbal voters propping up the corrupt establishment of tory-labour, expecting a different result form all their past failures and lies.
Have you bought your black boots, brown shirt, and tiki torch yet?
Sunak decent .wasn't he fined when party gate was in full swing yet stood up in the HOC stating his innocence before hand .
Good Get rid of the Uni- Party
Vote Nigel Reform
✌️🇬🇧
Err.... voting for a more extreme version of the Tories is not going to fix the problems created by the Tories.
Have you bought your black boots, brown shirt, and tiki torch yet?
@@gregorybiestek3431 Of Course. You must be late to the “ party”
@@JohnSmall314 Give us an idea of what you class as extreme? Bet you cant.
Reform is just BNP (light).
This pollster is deliberately obtuse. The 155 figure was a high, it never has been a low or an average the last week. This guy is a Tory apologist.
Once this is over Sunak will be detested and blamed by his crooked party.
Cant really see them getting 20 seats, just around the normal Tory stockbroker belt but thats it, hated length and breadth of the country
How seriouly should we take these polls? With a massive pinch of saly, me dear.
Why are people talking about "supermajority" that is not a thing in our countries.
Even unintelligent people can see we've all been shafted for 14 years.
According to one poll, "None of the above" lead by a country mile ;-/
The “ interesting question “ asked by a Farage stooge. He stood out a mile.
can anybody tell me one good thing sunak has done in 18 months?. everything is to benefit himself