SMACKWATER On SCARFACE & WILLIE D Beef.. "The End Of The GETTO BOYS" [PART 4]
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Episode 8 (PART 4)
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He forgot 8ball and MJG
Good way to use the word friction 4:00. It shows you got some education. I haven't heard the word friction used so intelligently in a long time.
@@reggaefan2700 thank you
@@GreenroomTV Your interviewee was very smart too. He brought up the bell curve 12:35. You guys were dropping knowledge on here.
@@reggaefan2700 absolutely
The Geto Boys with Big Mike was 🔥🔥. Niggaz get sensitive on that. But that whole album with The Peterman was 🔥🔥
Ppl forget the reason why willie left the group n wha he did afterwards
He heard cube name drop em on no Vaseline n he started feeling someway bout money
I’m goin out like a soldier he doin his country cube impression dissin face n face had nothin to do with financing
He thought the group was done without him
Mike came n didn’t lose a step .. had more outside work n notoriety than willie ever had n got nominated for best lyricist
Got hip hop quotable
Willie n face felt some type of way about mike then
Willie always been a opportunist n hypocrite
Why ask face wha he doin that weekend n he tell u some Grammy shit .. u brush it off
Then ya grandkids see face on tv u feel some type of way for 10seconds 😂
Agreed, if they would have kept it to him and face they’d be #1 overall
@@BS-hx5rj CHUUUUUUURCH
PITA man. Like pita roll.
@@EastsideCdale Fam I'm from the turf..3rd ward Tx.. It's Peter rolled.....we Triple cross em then Peter roll em
FINALLY someone addressed and confirmed Face was no longer on the pod!! Thanks
I was wondering if somebody was going to talk on it
Geto Boys Resurrection hands down 1 of the most heart felt albums for me it still is my go to when I want to hear the real
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When you find out how your friends really feel about you it's hard to pretend that relationship is going to be the same
Unless you fake
All of Scarfac albums are Classics 💯 💯 💯
Consistent ❤
When I hear people talk about the history of Southern hip-hop and don't mention 8-Ball & MJG it's hard for me to respect their opinion. However, this guy does seem like he knows what he's talking about regarding Scarface and Willie D. I knew once that episode dropped where Face didn't disclose to Willie he was performing at the Grammys it was the beginning of the end.
Charge it to his head and not his heart. He from da city and dat one slipped his mind. We grew up on them as they have a piece in Houston’s history as well
Don’t forget about the Dungeon Family!
Ghetto Boyz put the south on the map. Years before any other group hit the scene. Remember the GB came out in 1988. They paved the way for groups like 8Ball & MJG.
#OrangeMoundNigga!!!!
I think it just slipped bruh mind, he know what's up.
I knew this was gonna happen after the situation they had 😢
What situation?
What happened ?
@@anotherroute100I think Face did a huge Geto Boys performance & didn’t invite or mention it to Willie
Award show…50th Anniversary
@@TheDON914face performed mind playing tricks minus willie pretty much played the narc role when willie approached him on it with comments like : they ain’t call you willie , it had a lot to die with lack of loyalty
I’m not surprised at face, he did flip wrong in the T.I. Beef… I love face to death but he be on some shady shit tho 💯
Flip sucked
Y’all get shit confused for ONE NONE OF THEM NIGGAS KNEW EACHOTHER THEY WAS MADE A GROUP face don’t fuck with everybody from Houston once again j prince make them dudes get together 3 dude fuck with rock music wrote a lot of versus for the crew dude was into rock music niggas was cold DONT get it twisted face just a different dude you not even friends with everybody where you from and even with those around you BUSINESS IS BUSINESS
Willie did speak on him having funny ways when the Grammy situation happened. 😂😂
Face be on some "selfish ish" sometimes
Bout time someone recognize the shade,Face is 2 faced
Willie D has a point
I remember that beef, face could've at least called him so he and the family could've tuned in to watch. Shidd even call them afterwards to look up clips at least
@@demikpreWillie knew Face was going to perform at the event, he chose not to go.
Man that man ain't have to tell him nothing to be real
Big Mike +Scarface + Willie D + Bun B should do an album together.
Sad state of affairs. No sitting on the fence with this one. Basic protocols were broken and there's no place for 'I'm sorry.' I feel it for Willie D.
Agreed..But man I would hope adults, especially those who have been through so much throughout the years could work it out. Something tells me this isn't only about the Grammys, this seems just like the last straw on top of other issues.
When Face was on his deathbed as he called it he said Will came to see him everyday so when you at your lowest Will was there but when you get that Grammy call da man who you broke bread with for over 30 years you said you didn’t even thank about him! Like Will said Face a selfish MOFO!!!
To add to that: Scarface a dope rapper but him as a man is spineless. Remember when TI and Flip had beef? Face on the phone with TI talking bout "you the king of the South. I aint rven want that shit". Yo Houston compadres crowned you nigga.
Nigga no one is perfect.
They DIDN’T invite him. It WASN’T Brad’s call. What don’t you all get? It’s very simple. They didn’t call Willie because he’s always running his mouth about the Grammy’s and everybody else, so why tf does he care so much all of a sudden. Willie is a rotten shid stirring VICTIM.
@@darylstewart4536 nobody said he was negro
@@Mooney_Da_Mayor Damn u emotional
Man Willie keeps it real 100 % and most of the time he ends up lookin like the bad guy for it. He held his tongue for the most wit the Bill situation… so let me get this straight Scarface goes on the Grammys gets his shine get called out for it in an honest way after telling Willie to vent then he leaves him hangin’ on the Geto Boyz podcast. It looks like Willie wasn’t wrong when he said he was selfish, not selfish for doin his verse @ the Grammys necessarily but just give Willie a heads up as friends who go bk… I think them ppl knew who to get at to pull them apart bc Willie D be sayin some real stuff on his own Podcast. If the shoe was on the other foot Willie wouldn’t have let it ride that way prob would’ve even declined
Willie is a woman.
Face didn't leave Willie D hanging. Willie is crying like a baby and calling Face a lie..No man should do business with another man when there's no trust. Face had 5 seconds like everyone else and they wanted Face not Willie. That song belongs to Scarface.. Lil J asked if Willie and Bill could be on the song.
@@willcollins1108 👏 that’s ur opinion I got mines. Peace
Facts
Hw u going to call face a lie because u feel a certain way.. my opinion he would’ve been mad regardless,that song just was a reason for him to bring it up!! Period!!
The Ghetto Boys is the first group from the South that made the industry and the Nation take the South serious in Hip Hop 👀
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These people are human, but it hurt Will , when Face said telling him never crossed his mind…………I wish he wouldn’t have said that because it did damage
He clearly could care less how Willie feels
Not only that, face completely blew the shit off like it was nothing
People still FAIL to understand that my mind playin tricks,was a SCARFACE song at first!!He did the beat and wrote it.j prince wanted that song on a geto boys album.Thats how willie and bushwick got on that song!!MR.MR.SCARFACE is the greatest of all time!!
All that is true. Initially it was Scarface's song, but as we know now it is a Geto Boys song. Bushwick Bill and DJ Ready Red have passed on. The only people that can hold the title for that group is Willie D and Scarface. In this instance Scarface was wrong
@@freestateofgrizzy1937 To me,he was never wrong.That was SCARFACE song.
@@freestateofgrizzy1937Big Mike was a Geto Boy too
@@joevic4674 Yes he was
Geto Boys group with Scarface, Willie D, & Big Mike would be dope
It didn’t cross his mind. His mind was playing tricks on him 😂
Man I thought Will and Face squashed that!!!!!
Willie is a bisch that can’t let shid go.
They did .. they jus stop Fuckin with each other
Me too
Me to
Finally someone talking sense. I'm loving this interview.
The cautionary tales were our reality they were to me the most important rap group ever at keeping it real with its listeners.🙏💯
Whoever smackwater is this ninja on point.💯
Social media influencer and commentator from Houston, TX
Ice T said on big court that he new what song he was gone do.. So how Scarface didn’t know?!? 👀 Somebody business camp not right are somebody bullshitting !
Yeah, but Ice T is a solo artist only. The ghetto boys git hits just the same as Face got hits. It could've been 1 of a pleather of hits.
Face didn’t kno what he was gone perform til he got there
But willie d the same one sayin fuck the Grammys n the gate keepers
Face has performed his verse at shows for yrs
They had a show in houston ice cube e40 dj quik all was there
Willie d boppin with ice cube bein a hype man
But when chuck n face needed him for the song willie sucking cube dick
Face said then he would never do shit geto boys with the group
Willie always been jealous of face
Ask Dj premier about the show they had at the Apollo where big mello had to replace willie because he got big headed around his peers n him n face had a fight
The only reason the podcast was made between him and face
Willie is a opportunist he missed the ball with bushwick on his death bed
Face was close to dyin willie hopped on that to be able to have the last say and to capitalize off the situation if it came
It never came
@@josephbutler7189 right... Face was invited...
Who cares though, Detective?
Just goes to show......EVERYTHING on this Earth shall pass away ⏳️
Not sure I can agree. I think Goodie Mob said more that related to our community than any other group.
Facts but I think he was talking about in their era
Point of no return is better than any song Goodie Mob ever did...n peepin in my window was classic but point of no return hits on major levels
@@Spaceage713 🤣🤣🤣
The Truth hurts....u need to listen fam...don't kno how old u are but point of no return is deep.....plus I left out the Secret.....Goodie Mob ain't in geto boys class G....and I liked Goodie Mob a lot....but yall trippin or from the A lol
@@Spaceage713 I'm from Miami and I'm 48 years old! I loved GB and i know the song but GM was ahead of their time with the information they were giving! They were like civil rights activist rapping! In Cell Therapy they were talking talking about the chip in your hand that will replace money,the mark of the beast! This is now coming up when they were talking about it in 1993/1994! GB was more gangsta rap but GM was more knowledge, wisdom and understanding! Even in Cell Therapy when they said Pow, they didn't mean pow as in a gun but P.O.W as in Prisoners Of War,which that's what we are! It's just my opinion but whatever resignate with you the most, is the right answer so we are both right but Cell Therapy went world-wide and it sold more than Point of no return. I didn't Google it but I'm sure if I did GM sold more! They even had their video played in heavy rotation and Point of no return didn't. I don't even remember a video for Point of no return but that sht hit SUPER HARD!!!!!!They were also spitting that fire from the lyrics to the beat! One of my favorite songs!!!
Willie D is hurt. He has a song called “Trophy” on the Geto Boys’ second album talking about how he hates being snubbed by the Grammys. Face was focusing on his own legacy. They probably told him specifically, “We only want YOU”, and he didn’t know how to tell Willie. 😑
That's the reason they're done.
Willie D had enough of the bs from Face.
On that first Geto Boys album Willie D was that 🔥 🔥 🔥
I think scarface should start his own podcast
Face always been selfish look had he did flip
Ain’t nobody coming to see you Otis….
@@ahopkins1978 willie D was originally GB . Face came later
@@terrellgaither8699 oh yeah I was referring to Face. I enjoy listening to Willie D talk on the podcast. Don’t think I can sit through an hour of Face talking
@@ahopkins1978if Face ain't rapping, he's not saying much.
Boy he hit the nail on the head with them two face songs !!! Never seen a man cry is my number one and Jessie James is most definitely the second!!
Geto Boys made the world RESPECT the South 💯 💯 💯
Willie D was totally WRONG. Toxic People always acting like you Owe them something. Face had NO control over the performances that day. Ice T spoke on the situation. Ridiculously JEALOUSLY is all it is. They wanted Scarface Not Willie D 🙄
Ok..then why do a get boys song and not a solo song?
I had to double back & re-watch this interview just because of Smackwater. Smackwater kept that shit 💯. I Respect Smackwater.
I thought on the song, 'Trophy', Willie D said, "F*** Oscar, Grammy, Emmy, and Tony!..." 😂
I listen to We Can’t Be Stopped every day
They had a good podcast
Goodie Mob had the strongest message
Without a doubt.
#Facts
Nobody can replace the ghetto boys! Z Ro would fit cause he raps real music but the ghetto boys are the NWA of the South!!!
On that beef Scarface sounded like a republican, who refuses to acknowledge reality. It was difficult to watch a Black man act like that.
This is a knowledgeable dude... I liked listening to him👍🏾
I been rocking with GB so long I have these boi's albums on cassette tape. So I am a fan of both of them. I love Will for his raw in your face no holds barred rap flo and Scarface for his lyrical skills. Even though Face was my favorite I believe he was wrong. Not because he performed by himself at this once in a lifetime event. Hell the Grammy's probably only wanted who they wanted. It is what it is, but there is no way I'm going to sit across from my potna, my homeboy, my nigga, my group member every week and not one time mention, inform, or simply give heads-up that hey bro...Grammy's call me to perform. I personally don't think Will is shocked or bothered that the Grammy's didn't reach out to him. I think he is just hurt and disappointed that his homeboy didn't mention it and in the interview sat right across from him and said to Will...It never crossed my mind. To me it don't matter if Face knew or didn't no what song they wanted, I still would have mentioned it. Love you Face, but you were wrong fam. I pray that you and Will can get passed this though. 🤘🏾💯
Willie says F them then expects to be invited? He says a lot of insulting things about people. So Scarface is suppose to miss out because of Willie?
Big Facts 💯🥃🍾
@@5000G-x2z No Face definitely shouldn't have missed out on that opportunity in no shape, form, or fashion. He just should have at least mentioned it to Will is all I'm saying. I think that would have been keeping it 💯.
@@nycegraphix302 Willie wanted Face not to attend. He said it All he would have done was guilt trip Face into not going. Willie said F the Grammys. Some groups get life time achievement awards. Do you think they would give it to the Geto Boys after what Willie said on the show ? Nope. If they offer it to Face should he tell Willie first ? Willie should not expect to be invited to anything that is given by people insulted. And what he does has a negative effect on Face but he doesn't care. By the way he could have done what most people who have success as a solo artist does never go back to the group.
I agree, just him mentioning it, would have mafe all the difference in the eorld @ least to Willie....
Scarface didnt tell WillyD he was going to the Grammys let alone perform a Ghetto Boys song. Even if he only got invited he should of told them he only will perform Scarface songs.
So in my opinion Scarface was wrong by all accounts.
Scarface is The Geto Boys.He’s is the only member to not leave the group.
@@jasonhurley2396 and scarface had the song first wrote bushwick verse and produced the beat
@@johnnysimpkins1655 yup he gets 80% of all song royalties on the song. While the song is a Geto Boys song Face created it. Imagine if that was Faces first single with “A Second to Die” followed up….we probably would not be having any conversations about Willie D.
Damn you niccas act like females....wow.
@@jasonhurley2396You dumb, lol. EVEN FACE wouldn't say that .. and the grounp was none of their idea .. they were put together by J .. yet the song was the GROUP song .. not one members
Face is exactly how his music describes him.
Damn ... "It Shouldn't Be A War"
This Is SO UNFORTUNATE. 😔
Man, just say Big Mike & Z-Ro as additional Geto Boys members with Scarface & Willie D, if the Geto Boys ever did another album lol.
Actually, I was surprised Face and Willie had a podcast together. I didn’t see their personalities meshing well. Face should start his own joint! ✊🏾
Yeah im surprised at face. Not taking sides. Wish they work that bs out. My all time favorite rap games. Brothers, partners, homies, kinfolk fallout sometimes. Think they will be str8
Brother broke it down perfectly from a fan standpoint
Smackwater my Nigga!!!! He like family. Our dad's knew each other. I subscribed cuz of this interview
"Mr. Mr. Scarface Went Walkin Down The Block..... Out Jumps The Feans And Steals All His Rocks. Pulls Out A Gun And Shoots Down All The Feans, And Mr. Mr. Scarface Went Down The Block Again!!!!!" #ClassicSkit #RealRap✊🏾
It's "Fiends" bama'....not Feans or Beans.... Damn if you remedial mufuggas don't highlight the public school system..lol
@@billydanzz 🤣🤣🤣
Willie D is a very emotional man
I chuckled when Smackwater said "Mr. Scarface Is Back" is Face's best album, but his favorite songs were from "The Diary" (which most fans say is his best album). Nothing wrong with that, it was just funny.
After that Grammy's situation, I didn't see Face on the pod anymore. I didn't think that was going to ruin their relationship or the podcast, though, because they spoke on it. I was just starting to get into that podcast, too, watching it every day.
100 about substance...hopefully they resolve things.......
6 Platinum Albums, the rest Gold Albums. Scarface the GOAT in the South.
No he is not... Lil Wayne is the goat in the south.... Sorry
@@randywatson6583you must be young, Face is the Godfather of the south dude!
@@GodsSon5000 actually I'm not young I'm just not biased of my generation.... Now you are saying he is the godfather of the south... He can be that.... But u said goat... No... That's Wayne
I’m from New Orleans and in my opinion Scarface is the goat and not just the south. But then again I’m born in 84 so I understand peoples opinions may differ. Geto boys open the door for gangsta rap in the south and made people respect the south cuz we was always labeled country to the east and west
@@GodsChild122 I'm from Cleveland and Geto Boyz love this city, Face the Goat! Like you said younger generation got different taste, I blame social media, too much opps on opps and using drugs instead hustling to get paid and shit. I ain't wit that drill rap, new artists I fuck wit is J Cole, Dolph rip, Kendrick Lamar, Wale, Ross, Jadakiss, Redman, Method Man, Dave East, Nipsey rip, Cube, E-40 you know niggas talking shit I can personally relate to
Diamonds all n yo face. Truth always come to light.
If the Grammy’s told Face he had to perform a GB song, Face could of gladly declined. End of story. Took an L on that one Face.
Yes, the “It didn’t cross my mind” was the key exchange…if that was true…then obviously they looked at their relationship differently…
I'm a fan too and I wish they could keep it going
Damn good interview and yes, I just subscribed..
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I agree with Willie D. If that’s your man. That’s your man. Period. Let nothing come between you and your folks.
Scareface probably d only artist that went platinum from d label
Ain't even gotta finish watching the video. The problem at 5:01 is every conversation you have about an issue with an associate doesn't need to be televised or broadcasted. That was heated from jump street and should have been behind closed doors mono-e-mono IMHO.
Exactly Willie d hating on Scarface on live tv I done seen it all
My boy from Acres Homes. Cake ass Nikka 🤣🤣🤣
Hate to say it but I saw that split coming
Can't nobody duplicate the Geto Boys. And lastly it aint no Geto Boys without Bushwick period.
This man trying to play both sides instead of saying what he really feel about the situation!! Sounds like he's leaning toward Willie but he don't want to say it!
Geto boys put it on the map!
And what y'all keep leaving out of this ignorant conversation is there were other groups there who didn't have their full members as well performing their major group songs and nobody threw a temper tantrum from these other bigger groups... Because everybody understands how those situations go there is never a lot of time
2 Live Crew & Poison Clan pioneered Rap music in the South as a group, just as the Geto Boys.
Eightball & MJG, OutKast, Goodie Mob & Dirty (aka Dirtyboyz) all had substance in their music just as much as the Geto Boys.
Goodie Mob definitely on that level!! Talk to the People & those "others" who need to hear it!!
This dude is playing safe...no real answers. Tapping dancing around the real
The world need more Scarface songs .. and if not he has did enough ..... not even pac can stack up against Brad Jordan.
Willie crying to mum and dad that big brother face wont take him to the party that only face was invited to
I had a feeling that was what happened and when I saw the hiatus and then all of a sudden it started back and it's just Willie D, I figured Face was no longer affiliated with it. That sucks. Willie had mentioned that it was up for renewal and then mentioned how he had done his own podcast for awhile when him and Face had their disagreement so I saw it coming. With that being said, I understand Willie's perspective. Face didn't have to say anything but it's a courtesy especially after knowing someone for so long. Maybe in Face's mind, that's his business and he didn't have to let Willie know, but on the real, it made Face look shady in my eyes. I hope they reconcile though.
All Face gotta do is apologize. He know he was wrong.
He apologized on the show
Willie said he would never go to that Award show perioT! So he gets his panties in a bunch because Face went...I call BS on Willie hating.
@@brentoniverson1020 So if your babe says she doesn't want a birthday gift, you not gonna get her one? Or be a smart man and do the right thing.
@@EmpathZ313
Don't change the narrative? Again, before Face went on the Grammys, Willie D in a video said, "fucc the Grammys, I would never go". Based on that I would have went and got that bag and continued on with the Legacy. Willie got pissed as he's always pissed about something...
@@EmpathZ313
And then to put yo "partneras Willie would say on blast on a Podcast for the entire world to see, I would move around in a different direction as well as Face has done.
You forgot 8Ball & MJG
I fuck with face tho face told willie it didn’t cross his mind and I’m pretty sure it didn’t cuz he was in the moment…but I hope them OGs can squash that shit
Far as im concerned, the Grammys and the ppl behind it, been wanting to Chris Rock the shit outta Willie D for a long time now and they "USED" Face to do it! And all GB fans know why I say that...
This Questlove fault when u get to the root of it…I believe Face and I understand Willie feeling a way…I think Face didn’t make big of the situation cuz he didn’t have creative control over the situation and I guess he felt once he explained that to Willie it would be understood…
For the Grammys to put Face in that situation was messy
Salute to sMaCk WaTer for keeping it G and not picking a side 💯.. SaLutE SCarFaCe and WiLliE D to me they right IMO when sCarFace basically left wiLliE out OF Performing During a Historic moment tHat will never be able to be recreated again 💯🤷🏿♂️
That’s why they fell out!
Brad told me that Will stopped talking to him!
Shout-Out to my H-Town homie SmackWater
Yesssss Jesse James & Never Seen A Man Cry!! I used to listen to them EVERY DAY MY SR YEAR OF HI SCHOOL 🤞🏾
Those two always had animosity towards each other. They just were able to get past some petty stuff. Sometimes, you just reach your ceiling. Both men had a point. But since both points were valid....where do we go from there? Sometimes, the reason and the season is over.
this is what people fail to realize !!!
miss ghetto boyz being together yall Legends
“As a man” Willie looked like he wanted to slap the taste of his mouth. That was some sucker 💩 how Scarface did that!
Willy D didn’t go to Bushwick funeral 😢
Everybody knew they didn't like each other. What face did was unoriginal... We all we got.
He damn sure looked like it,And no one mentioned Bushwill,or attend his funeral Just pitiful
Smack you right My G 🤘🏿🤘🏿🤘🏿🤘🏿
I love both of em. But real talk Face could have and did have a cold solo career. But i will say some of my favorite verses came on GB albums
6 Solo Platinum Albums, the rest Gold. Scarface the GOAT in the South.
Yea he did but he didn’t get up there and do a Scarface track he did a ghetto boy track……..Willie was
supposed to be there
@@on29st90 Scarface wrote the whole song exept one verse. He produced the beat to. And Willie has openly been anti grammys.
1 luv to the OG Smackwater.
I sincerely hope they squash this.
covid done shown the truth about alot of folks
I knew I wasn’t trippin…I knew the latest releases didn’t have Scarface on there
Face did Willie D wrong with that Grammy situation.
No he didn’t .. face told em .. willie brushed it off
Face didn’t kno tl he got there wha he suppose to do willie come to the Grammys
Willie mad melle Mel got to pose
Willie Dee need to stop whining. The Grammys didn't want him there...
@@gradychristopher8454 he didn’t want the Grammys because face said he was goin to the Grammys he could have said I wanna go
But almost 30yrs willie been screamin about the Grammys gatekeepers
Apparently there was already some static between them; besides, if the Grammys wanted Willie to be there then they would’ve asked him..
When was Scarface supposed to call Willie? At rehearsal? Before he went on stage live?
Great interview but the greatest Scarface song is "Faith" on the Untouchable CD! "How Could We All Sit Suspended in Space, Just Spinning In Place & Ain't Extended in FAITH: MAN WAIT!!! This Nicca Questioned The Whole World About Believing In GOD with the most logical point that destroy all Atheist and Non-Believing Niccas without cursing, preaching, arguing or hating Nobody or No Religion! Salute🖖 That quote is a direct slap to the face all blacks who know the 400 year history but deny the very fact on who we just may be! The Geto Boys gotta let by-gones be by-gones for our sanity: THE FANS
K-Rino would be the only qualified addition to the Geto Boys💯
Wille D was wrong
Can you explain?