IMPORTANT UPDATE THE 200% Z BUFF WAS CHANGED ON 24th of May 2024 to: 50AP -> 55AP 40% Attack Speed -> 25% Attack Speed Now gives additionally 2000 HP and 50% Crit Rate.
So this buff to 100% as well, might also help awk maegu, right? Since the addition also of the 30% crit for the 100% and even having 3 set tungrad that up's the cap so much and has pretty much perma Z like nova on some spots
how is it that bad, did u even watch the video. u lose 7 ap but have ur bsrbuff perma up. who cares abotu sheet stats when in combat u have 20 ap more compared to tet debos and you literaly pay 10s of billions less. the only point where debos are better is if you go for pens
Im gonna go debo neck two ears and tun belt two rings for my highest ap build. then two bs artifacts with mind focus, or bs with beat down if i feel like building ir.
@@razmote38yup, at least in PvE in spots where you kill a lot of mobs to refill the 200% in 1 minute tungrad 5 set would be a bit better than 5 debo set but it's a very niche use scenario. Debo set is better but tungrad set might be a strong Swap for some spots for min max freaks.
Tungrad set will be awesome for those of us that aren’t crazy geared and mainly pve. Adding Debo rings will be big for PvP players though, now they can run 2 Debo rings, Debo belt, and run lunar neck and dawns for accuracy to keep 3 set. 5 set tungrad for PvP kind of locks you into having low accuracy and you also won’t have the HP accessories as options for PvP. All in all stellar addition but I’m guessing Debo is still the play for pvp
I've already been using a full tungrad set with 200% BSR for the longest time, glad to see it buffed. Being Woosa awake main she kinda relies on her Z-buff to become amazing. Most importantly, it's just what I enjoy more than going after debos.
I feel same on wiz. Also, unless youre fighting someone with hellu high dr, straight ap seems kinda underwhelming. And even then it doesnt do much for my class, awake wiz, against a high dr guardian for example. I feel like accuracy, crit, special attack, bsr, and getting both my dr an evasion as high as possible are better. My game plan against a shield classes is always tp away/kite, slow, and wait for a cc or opportunity to blow up their backside. No amount AP will let me hit them head on and trade. Now Pve is different, but isnt that why god made pen distos lol? Also we have weapons coming that will give us more AP. I'll eventually get a pen debo neck to grind with but not worried about it now. This would be different if I was evasion build though.
Kaia earings still probably better. So I would go for double tungrad rings and tungrad neck+belt. That's 160% cap. +30 set bonus, +10 rage cap from 2 rage artifacts each, and than ez 210cap
I'm using evasion gear atm for my mystic, should I be worried and should I consider switching over to dr? Thank you again for making such an informative video.
i think 3+3 debo and tungar would be the best answer here, but 5 debo making you reach 340ap cap with nouver +1k accuracy. that is the only reason i can think about build full debo set@@VerdictLovesYou
So tungrad set will be kiiiiind of worth it for pre-Debo users IF you can afford x2 PEN tungrad rings, but even then at that point... just buy TET Debos really... pointless update for tungrad. Good bonus for mid-game players but too expensive to actually buy and make use of. There are way better and often cheaper alternatives.
HI WHAT IS BETTER FOR "PVP" 5 TET DEBO SET OR 5 PEN TUNGRAD SET?? =5 set pen tungrad +10 ap + 12 more accuracy +1 more sheet ap VS =5 set TET DEBOREKA +20 AP -12 less accuracy -1 less sheet ap HMM... anyone ?
+8ap for 5set, sheesh. Not worth it. As if 5set is that easy to make, 3set debo is hard enough, and now you can get a much inferior bonus stat(than tungrads) for a much hard route? what are they thinking.
@@chadlife5573 my guy youre missing on 30+ ap going the tungrad route. that 1 200% every 30 minutes isnt worth it. Id rather have 30+ ap consistently rather than that 1 200% buff i would have every 30 minutes for 1 minute. it is cheaper , but def not better. Now imagine getting fed 200% while having so much more ap :) .
@@chadlife5573 ok then go tet debos and an acc of your choice on top of that will give you better stats than 6 tungrads. 200% is not worth it. Capped pvp having more hp and being fed 200% while having the capped pvp accessories will yield so much more. Uncapped again, having an optimised build is more valuable than ap bsr monkey. Also unless you're a zerker every other 200%is just shit and ypu can only use it once every 30m. Unless they reduce the cooldown timer or significantly buff other 200% just thinking about going the tungrad route is inting.
@@mlwlan its even more fun in capped pvp. Just imagine this-x2 olucas gives you +2% atk spd with 300m each more or less, and very important in pvp. Now, just imagine +40% atk speed effect.
6 DEVO PEN = 3 Trillions minimum, do u have 3T? anyway with full devo acc u can still die :p i will change to devo set after achieve full TET God Armor
that's fine, I wonder why you felt the need to express it tho? Is it because you yourself could not understand it, or you wonder how and why are people around understanding it?
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IMPORTANT UPDATE THE 200% Z BUFF WAS CHANGED ON 24th of May 2024 to:
50AP -> 55AP
40% Attack Speed -> 25% Attack Speed
Now gives additionally 2000 HP and 50% Crit Rate.
Havel 200 bsr cooldown ? And Its fór one min ?
So this buff to 100% as well, might also help awk maegu, right? Since the addition also of the 30% crit for the 100% and even having 3 set tungrad that up's the cap so much and has pretty much perma Z like nova on some spots
Pls.. the tungrad would be acceptable if it was 4 item set, not 5. Tungrad earrings are rly, rly bad.
tungrad earing is not bad, debo earing is bad compare to price and ap.
how is it that bad, did u even watch the video. u lose 7 ap but have ur bsrbuff perma up. who cares abotu sheet stats when in combat u have 20 ap more compared to tet debos and you literaly pay 10s of billions less. the only point where debos are better is if you go for pens
Why would i want ro compare tet debos with pen tungrad.......
Can you get both set effects if you have 3 tungrads and 3 Debos?
You still need the 10% or 20% passive bonus from the tungrad accessories itself to hit 200% BSR.
Yes, you can.. u need tung belt, neck, earring and debo earring, ring, ring +2* BSR artifacts
Im gonna go debo neck two ears and tun belt two rings for my highest ap build. then two bs artifacts with mind focus, or bs with beat down if i feel like building ir.
But doesn’t the 200% have a 30 min cooldown or something like that?
a single moment can change a lot in a close fight.
U can absorb but ye imo its better going debo. Even at tet
200% skills have 30min cd but you can absorb the 200% with z without cd
@@SmileyBDO but have to wait to feel it up to 200%
@@razmote38yup, at least in PvE in spots where you kill a lot of mobs to refill the 200% in 1 minute tungrad 5 set would be a bit better than 5 debo set but it's a very niche use scenario. Debo set is better but tungrad set might be a strong Swap for some spots for min max freaks.
The bear on the wall is simply gorgeous!
Looks good, builds are gonna go a bit crazy with the Debo Rings and ultimately Slumbering Origin Weapons
They are changing the cool down for Black S. Rage to 10 mins or lowering it. ....
I'm wondering if they'll buff BSR generation to go with it.
Glad my current set was already pen tungrad. Lucky :D
Tungrad set will be awesome for those of us that aren’t crazy geared and mainly pve. Adding Debo rings will be big for PvP players though, now they can run 2 Debo rings, Debo belt, and run lunar neck and dawns for accuracy to keep 3 set. 5 set tungrad for PvP kind of locks you into having low accuracy and you also won’t have the HP accessories as options for PvP. All in all stellar addition but I’m guessing Debo is still the play for pvp
I've already been using a full tungrad set with 200% BSR for the longest time, glad to see it buffed. Being Woosa awake main she kinda relies on her Z-buff to become amazing. Most importantly, it's just what I enjoy more than going after debos.
I feel same on wiz. Also, unless youre fighting someone with hellu high dr, straight ap seems kinda underwhelming. And even then it doesnt do much for my class, awake wiz, against a high dr guardian for example. I feel like accuracy, crit, special attack, bsr, and getting both my dr an evasion as high as possible are better. My game plan against a shield classes is always tp away/kite, slow, and wait for a cc or opportunity to blow up their backside. No amount AP will let me hit them head on and trade.
Now Pve is different, but isnt that why god made pen distos lol? Also we have weapons coming that will give us more AP. I'll eventually get a pen debo neck to grind with but not worried about it now. This would be different if I was evasion build though.
Kaia earings still probably better. So I would go for double tungrad rings and tungrad neck+belt. That's 160% cap. +30 set bonus, +10 rage cap from 2 rage artifacts each, and than ez 210cap
I'm using evasion gear atm for my mystic, should I be worried and should I consider switching over to dr? Thank you again for making such an informative video.
It seems like it... although it's too early to tell.
if ur hardcore pvp then yes you should be worried 😂
they should make debos +ap on 3set, then +attack speed on 5set
Is the tungrad set live yet?
Not yet, we have no eta
they gotta milk the debo grinders first
any update for this?
was 200% buff cooldown 30min?
No, just the ability
i think 3+3 debo and tungar would be the best answer here, but 5 debo making you reach 340ap cap with nouver +1k accuracy. that is the only reason i can think about build full debo set@@VerdictLovesYou
sets shouldve been 2-4-5 set bonuses. for flexability.
so if im awake maegu main should i start saving up tungrad accesories from now?
It does make a lot of sense to, but lets wait for a bit! Perhaps they'll adjust this, it's too strong.
im a meahwa player in my 100 n 200% is half ass so Debo for me
So tungrad set will be kiiiiind of worth it for pre-Debo users IF you can afford x2 PEN tungrad rings, but even then at that point... just buy TET Debos really... pointless update for tungrad. Good bonus for mid-game players but too expensive to actually buy and make use of. There are way better and often cheaper alternatives.
this is a game changer for upcoming players, they can just go 2 tet tungring belt neck, and 2 pen earrings
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HI WHAT IS BETTER FOR "PVP" 5 TET DEBO SET OR 5 PEN TUNGRAD SET??
=5 set pen tungrad +10 ap + 12 more accuracy +1 more sheet ap
VS
=5 set TET DEBOREKA +20 AP -12 less accuracy -1 less sheet ap
HMM... anyone ?
tungrad is cheap and gives you the posibility of 200% sounds fun :p
interesting
+8ap for 5set, sheesh. Not worth it. As if 5set is that easy to make, 3set debo is hard enough, and now you can get a much inferior bonus stat(than tungrads) for a much hard route? what are they thinking.
200% gives you the ability to wipe out an entire guild for a much cheaper and easier cost. with ALMOST similar stats.
@@chadlife5573 my guy youre missing on 30+ ap going the tungrad route. that 1 200% every 30 minutes isnt worth it. Id rather have 30+ ap consistently rather than that 1 200% buff i would have every 30 minutes for 1 minute. it is cheaper , but def not better. Now imagine getting fed 200% while having so much more ap :) .
@@mlwlan If full pen debo, yes you are correct. For normal people like me, pen debo is not that easy to get.
@@chadlife5573 ok then go tet debos and an acc of your choice on top of that will give you better stats than 6 tungrads. 200% is not worth it. Capped pvp having more hp and being fed 200% while having the capped pvp accessories will yield so much more. Uncapped again, having an optimised build is more valuable than ap bsr monkey. Also unless you're a zerker every other 200%is just shit and ypu can only use it once every 30m. Unless they reduce the cooldown timer or significantly buff other 200% just thinking about going the tungrad route is inting.
@@mlwlan its even more fun in capped pvp. Just imagine this-x2 olucas gives you +2% atk spd with 300m each more or less, and very important in pvp. Now, just imagine +40% atk speed effect.
But debo still king to bonk people
6 DEVO PEN = 3 Trillions minimum, do u have 3T? anyway with full devo acc u can still die :p i will change to devo set after achieve full TET God Armor
yeah unsubbing you make no sense as always
that's fine, I wonder why you felt the need to express it tho? Is it because you yourself could not understand it, or you wonder how and why are people around understanding it?
maybe its a you problem, because he made totally sense, wasn't even hard to show his point in the video
If thats the blarix from console eu, dont worry, he always seemed to have comprehension problems