Right, I've put like 30 different distros on my drive, and mint with cinnamon has never failed me. They're all the same if you know what you are doing, just different types and versions of packages.
3:08 actually, from what I've read, mintupgrade isn't installed by default because it's a new tool the mint team developed a short while ago. This is the first time we've used it. They're planning to use it for all future updates and it will be included in new releases
Boy am I happy to hear that it's an in-place upgrade! I used to use PCLinuxOS (My very first Linux Distro), and while it was good for my needs, I had to update Libre Office to a current "Community Release", or something like that, but what really irked me was this one upgrade that forced me to totally uninstall the OS, install the new version and then "restore it". What a hemorrhoid that was!!! Linux Mint is so superior in so many ways, like its' stability, updating packages, "Spices", ease of use, and the fact that it recognizes my HP printer and prints easily (albeit with a slight delay). The optional HPLIP software icon in the taskbar is a cool thing to have too. Last, but not least!--Thank you for putting this absolutely excellent video together! Really nice job. Now I can proceed confidently.
It would be nice IF it worked. But the process always stalls because of unacceptable packages on my system, that the "remove" button can't remove. I am not a guru or a sorcerer supreme, and there are no instructions about removing these packages. I posted my problems on the Linux Mint forums with no response yet (could it be that the forums are swamped with these unsolvable road blocks?).
Linux Mint devs really made the OS upgrade easy and straightforward, well done. It would be good to compare that to the other major LTS distros. Thx for sharing this step by step guide, its quite helpful!
I'm currently using Linux Mint 19.3 Cinnamon 64bit. Will there be extenuating circumstances that I need to address before following this guide? I am very new to LInux, as I began my journey about June of 2020. I did a fresh install at that time, and have added numerous apps along the way, mostly around video and Plex. Your reply is greatly appreciated. TIA Nick
@Jugoslavija Linux Mint works! You don't have to fix things, it just works. It works for most people, including me and those who need to have their computer resurrectd!
@Jugoslavija I know, it's a great distro! High five!
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Yeah! It was a bit rougher for me. I had pyhton 3.11 and must be to reinstall it. I also reinstalled Chrome. Delete PPAs and reinstall repositories. The upgrade chance the postgres default port. I don't know why. Other issue was that because I have matte, I had to make several adjustments to the appearance. However all custom settings were left intact dor all other apps. And that's is it. 😉. Happy new year to you and thanks you for your amazing contents.
Funny Mint story. I had one last windows 10 laptop left on my farm. It's sole purpose was to let me play RuneScape. A while ago the game stopped working correctly. I also noticed that when the screen refreshed, it would hesitate and jiggle just a tiny bit and would reset my file manager back to the top of the list. So I got frustrated and finally decided to try RuneScape on Mint. What do you know! RuneScape works really well on Mint. That day my last reason to exist on windows died.
@linyos torovoltosI mean if you're doing serious gaming you're prob gonna have a separate dedicated GPU anyway.. but people without it might as well stick to windows tbh if you're really serious
Linux Mint is awesome!!!! I still dual boot only when I need Windoze........ Thanks for the vid.... Just upgraded 1 PC and now the second. Great work from the Linux Mint team... I donated some $$$$$ to those guys for such a awesome job..... Keep up the great work guys
I was expecting a simple `sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade && sudo apt dist-upgrade` but nope, you go and use timeshift and back things up for safety. Nice.
I have mint 19 and have a warning end of life less than 80 days, I wish to upgrade to 21.1 without losing any file or config, whats the best way to do this? ps it is backed up so dw about braking it i need some good advice tho it has a web server and samba and node js etc, i even wish to preserv sudoiers and cronjobs too any ideas?
As far as I know, orphaned packages are still in the repo, but were old dependencies for other packages that were not explicitely Installed by the user. At least, that's what it means on Arch Linux.
I think you are correct, the same is true for apt. IIRC it normally says something like "the following packages are no longer needed and will be removed" when you do "apt upgrade" on any *buntu I have used..
I love Mint, it was my second distro from Ubuntu when I was getting started. I have hopped around to see, but I always come back to Mint. I am using LMDE5 right now love it, just wish I could do better gaming on it.
I guess I was the lucky few for whom the upgrade completely bungled up their system. It would restart in emergency mode and just loop there. What's funny is that even the Timeshift failed somehow. Thankfully I had imaged the whole drive a week ago. So let this be a cautionary tale and back up and then back up some more.
Great video clearly explained with all steps defined in ann easy way. The video made the process of going from Linux Mint 20.3 to 21 look simple and easy, unfortunately for me it failed. Once the tool created the Snapshot it was not able to be checked and the update stuck at that point. I haven't found a solution as yet so if anyone has a suggestion I would appreciate your help.
I take this a step further and use Clonezilla to image my entire system and store it for a rainy day. I've heard too many horror stories of timeshft rollbacks being unsuccessful.
@@RK-kn1ud that is interesting. Do you recon any specific details? Because timeshift is just a fancy wrapper around rsync, I can imagine whatever can go wrong with it, means that the usual strategy of backing up your system as set of files will also fail. One case I can think of myself is when you might get a fs corruption or MBR corruption - there's no way just returning back your files from a backup will help here. But what else?
@@alx8439 Nothing specific, but if you search the linuxmint subreddit you will probably find lots of people saying that using timeshft caused a bunch of issues. I'm not informed enough to determine if they were right or wrong, but a simple clone is probably better than whatever timeshift does.
@@RK-kn1ud yeah i do agree, there's nothing more solid than a full physical byte-to-byte hardcopy of the whole disk. But that approach is not for everyone, as it takes a lot of storage.
Even though I have used Ubuntu and now Mint for about 13 years, I find that whenever I have to perform upgrades to newer versions, or install anything ... if I follow the directions provided, there seems to be something preventing the process along the way. This was the case with this upgrade. With the idea that doing this upgrade could cause problems with my system ... I almost want to keep the version I already have. I am just a "user" and that is all I am interested in. It should be an easy and safe process for anyone to do.
Hmmm, this makes me less skeptical about using Mint. My biggest concern is getting stuck on a release and then having to do a full reinstall to move to a new release.
I love Mints static releases, I am one who likes to use software updates I know that just work and only update when I need to for security reasons or what ever I am currently doing is not supported by that version of the software, especially Nvidias software I install the version I know works and stick with it till a game demands the newer versions.
I got so annoyed with win10 mysterious behaviors (mostly network) so I tried a few live distros. Been using mint21 for weeks now. Sound was a little confusing at first, some apps want exclusive control. Blender3, renoise, obs28, codeblocks, vscode, arduino2, firefox, media players... all good.
I switched from win7 to mint 20.3 XFCE with Twister UI with win95 theme. I had a hard time getting the audio quality to be currect. It was a lot of editing config files and running commands to see what worked. I ended up changing the audio from 16bit 44khz stereo to 32bit 96khz 5.1 surround with upconvert. I also wish there was a better video player. VLC seems to be the best but it lack a lot of the features of Media Player Classic which is an open source software for windows. It would be nice if DT did a video on configuring audio.
I recently moved from windows to linux and I already have linux mint 21 cinnamon but I'm facing an issue here. Everything works fine when I boot up until I suspend. When I wake my laptop from suspend. the processor fan doesn't run no matter how hot the processor and CPU gets. I don't know if it's because of the OS. May be a Kernel update would fix it, I don't know. There's a Kernel update but I'll do it next week.
Isn't it amazing you can do an 1,800 package update on Mint and it works. Do half of that in arch or Manjaro and it bricks the system 9 times out of 10.
I have had good luck with all the *buntus I have tried. I am on KDE neon and it has been solid. Of course, it is based on LTS so not the best example. I like my KDE bleeding edge because I love to see the new features but I want most other stuff to be new enough but stable. If I feel like the ubuntu repository is too slow for any certain program I just add it's repo or "nightly" or whatever for bleeding edge. As far as I understand flatpaks work similarly. This video did inspire me to look into setting up snapshots somehow... Now I have a weekend project, wish me luck!
@@ArniesTech TY! I thought it was going to be difficult because I am using ext4. I was under the impression I needed something more modern like btrfs. I just read a few forums and reddit posts, found Timeshift in Discover, installed it, configured it and made a snapshot! I think I am going to plug in an old sata ssd so that my snapshot is on another drive. I already backup my /home to a btrfs hdd striped/mirrored array once every few days.
I am about as novice as they come. I switched to Linux Mint about 2 years ago, maybe 3, and I really want to upgrade to Cinnamon (going by what I was told from person that installed Mint, but in another state before moving). My problem is I am not familiar with all the terminology of this OS. Sure i could watch all these videos till I''m blue in the face. But my problem is being uncertain of what I'm doing. I would be open to upgrading to 21. I am still on Mint 19.3. I clearly need to upgrade this based on what you are doing. The person I knew in New Mexico who installed this for me had Cinnamon on his system. I don't live there any more. I liked the look of it and basic operation of functions. He said it was better than Mint. I need a supervisor and cannot find someone (even in a college town) that is nerdy enough to help me with this. I am frustrated.
I tried upgrading to Vanessa. Got up to the system snapshot step. It seemed to be stuck in a loop. No progress was made on the upgrade. Any tips? Also, before I tried mint upgrade, I was getting an apt cache error, so I ran sudo apt install then sudo apt upgrade to get the up to date stuff for my machine.
When I try the command: sudo mintupgrade I get a error. Please dont run this command as root or with elevated privileges. But when I use the MATE desktop I can upgrade to 20. A update to 20 with systemreport wont also not work it opens firefox with a blog and it starts a systemcheck and after that its coming back at the beginning.
I take it that these instructions won't work if you have Linux Mint Cinnamon 20.2 or will they? Evidently my repository is not updated and there are remnants of a VPN I tried unsuccessfully to install that are posing problems after following your instructions typing in [sudo apt install mintupgrade] How can I update the repository and get rid of all traces of the VPN which was never functional?
I have followed your instructions and when I try to run mint upgrade all that happens is that it tells me to please don't run this command as root or with elevated priviliges. I'm trying to upgrade from 19.3
I'm in the middle of doing this exact upgrade 20.3 to 21, and it never asked about snapshots (I had one from initial 20.1 install 2 years ago I guess) and it's been downloading for over an hour even tho I'm running at 50 Mbps 😮
I have tried this method several times, but it never works. I make notes and write every thing down just as he says to do, but it never upgrades. Today I tried again and everything looked like it was going to work, but it didn't. I give up. Probably go back to windows. I've got eight days left before support runs out for 19.3
Thanks for the useful vid, brother. I prefer running LM from a USB with 'Persistence', instead of dual boot with Windows. Do you know if updating to the next version of LM will keep (or affect) that Persistence? Reason I'm asking: about 6 months back, I tried to set up the newest LM on a new USB drive...& Persistence doesn't seem to work with that. (So, I reverted to older LM (21.3?): Persistence does work still, on that.)
I appreciate this video but you didn't address the BIG question - what about existing files on a real not a virtual machine? Are they intact or wiped out? I know you should back up but what if someone didn't. Could you please address this, thank you.
I tried to upgrade 19.3 Mint to 21.1, but it had to go to 20.00 first. Was a disaster, with hours of package installs and then broken packages. I worked for a day to fix it all only to end up with a corrupted 20.0 updated system. Threw it away and installed 21.1 with guest additions and extensions in less than an hour. This was a VM.
Hopefully this saves someone some time... The mintupgrade can only be installed to the immediate previous version. If you are a couple versions behind back, like I was (20.1 trying to go to 21, you'll need to use the update manager to get the version immediately prior to the "current" version you are trying to install. In my case I had to install 20.3 first.
Long story short. I bought a used pc with w10. My old pc was w7. I also installed mint 20.3. Since I am learning both systems, and I don't trust w10 I want to get rid of w10. Do I need to do the iso route in order to eliminate w10 and just install 21.1. I made the mistake of a dual boot and found out I really do not like w10.
This video convinced me to upgrade from 20.3 but it went tragically/comically wrong. The installer went well, though it asked to remove some orphaned packages, etc. It then said I was safe to reboot. On reboot it says "Error out of memory...Press any key to continue", it then ends with a Kernel panic. I don't see any way to boot into a previous installation. I was using Timeshift before but I'm not sure if that can help me now. I get the same error when I try to boot into recovery mode.
i used linux mint, but not for too long to upgrade the distro to the next version...can't the user upgrade the distro from the update tool? it should be a voice that says that you can upgrade from there...right?
it doesn't matter because the upgrade process deals with /boot and /root. your separate /home partition should be affected BUT if you're using any metacity based themes...know they probably will no longer work. Smurphos's bigger buttons metacity theme dealing with bigger min, max, and close buttons won't work as of this comment in LM21.
I did the upgrade last month and it totally destroyed my configuration at work. First I didn't like to be obliged to run Timeshift. Then after the upgrade was install, I rebooted and impossible to launch X server. So I got back to the previous version made with the snapshot and it was impossible to make eth0 working. In the end, I was obliged to make a fresh install, losing cool programs like Wxmp3gain I spent a lot of time to install. I still have the previous version on my personal laptop and I don't dare to upgrade it for the same reasons
always make a system image back up before doing any major Linux distro upgrade...there is never a guarantee that all things will just work after rrh upgrade finishes and you reboot
Oh. I read the title as "Upgrade Linux Mint From Version One To The Next" and thought you would try to to upgrade from earliest available version to latest
Hey DT, I recently upgraded my hard drive from a 500 GB nvme to a 2 TB nvme. I cloned the disk (which has Win10 & Mint in a dual boot config) & to my surprise it just worked. However... I expanded the drive for Mint to 500 GBs in gparted, however in disk usage analyzer, it shows my / directory is only 33.9 GBs w/ 5.6 GBs available. Nemo also shows the little bar that indicates my Home is nearly full. Any suggestions? Both my swap & the Linux drive are encrypted. Edit: The lack of free space means no snapshot for the upgrade. 😖
You move your face around so much, as a fellow TH-camr, how do you keep your voice audio at the same level? When I move my face sideways while speaking, it loses like 50% of its volume, so when I speak, I need to face the same way the whole time... Is it your mic that makes sure that doesn't happen, or is it maybe some script you run to enhance it?
I move a bit but I'm never turning my head more than probably 45 degrees each each way. And the mic isn't that far from me...maybe 4-5 inches. The camera makes it seem like there's more distance than there is. ;) Also, if your volume drops when moving around, turn up the gain a bit...and make sure you speak loudly (not shouting, but speak with some authority).
@@DistroTube Thank you! I tried what you said, I think I had my mike too close to my mouth, I moved it away a bit and turned up the volume and it seems to be much better now :)
I personally hate the nagging of using timeshift. I have my own solid backup systems in place. The 19 -> 20 upgrade required timeshift to be enabled. wtf?
LM mentions Timeshift only ONCE during the Welcome Screen deal and you can ignore it in the System Reports application to where it does r bother you reminding you to use it. oooh wow...big game dookie lol
@@motoryzen No. I could not progress in the mintupgrade app without timeshift active and having backup. BTW, I use timeshift... it's just that I use it with custom configs and not hour-cron.d based like the Mint defaults.
@@SB-qm5wg It let me just fine without having had any timeshift prior backups done ( meaning my timeshift drive was completely disconnected when I did my upgrade on my older 4790k machine). I'm curious if there is an accidental misunderstanding here
Mintupgrade is a mainline edition Tool. Since LMDE isn't even planning on upgrading. But I am pretty sure this Tool will be made available for LMDE too 💪
@@angelborislavov9192 I guess so. Would be absolutely nice. As I stated in my video I am all for LMDE becoming THE only Mint anyway. Along with getting 100% of the dev power and dedication. Not just a fraction of it 💪
New Linux user, here. I see DT doing the Update command then after using the Upgrade command. I thought I read that they do the same thing, but that Upgrade is the proper one. Is that not the case? Should I be doing Update and then after doing Upgrade?
@@arvfrr I think you understood everything. Now, what exactly do you mean Upgrade won't be upgrading anything? I've been running that command (without Update) for a few weeks now and it lists things it is apparent upgrading. Perhaps it will simply upgrade more things if I don't update? Like the "repositories" aren't synced or something (Pardon my un-tech-savviness)? I was curious, so I hopped on my computer and typed in "sudo dnf upgrade" and it listed a bunch of things. Apparently it is installing things like "kernel-core" and "kernel-modules", upgrading things poor "pipewire-alsa" and "pipewire-gstreamer", and removing things like (another version of?) "kernel-core" and "kernel-modules." Also, it's worth nothing that I "upgraded" yesterday so perhaps there isn't much for it to upgrade, and perhaps more things would have been upgraded had I not upgraded so recently. So after I upgraded and everything was "complete!", I tried "sudo dnf update" and it came back with "Dependencies resolved. Nothing to do. Complete!" And just for good measure, in case "dependencies resolved" meant something like "respiratory updated" I went ahead and did the "sudo dnf upgrade" command again and it, too, came back with "Dependencies resolved. Nothing to do. Complete!" Is it because I'm on Fedora that these two commands seem to do the same thing? Or is there something I'm misunderstanding?
That's what i did with my 10 year old laptop (I put Linux kde neon plasma on my USB stick) completely removed windows since it no longer supports my system in the coming years, i jumped a head of time to future proof my machine with Linux, because Linux supports older hardware way better than windows does and for the long term too.
Currently running 20.3. Let's do this! Edit: Crash & burn. Not enough free space for a snapshot. nvme0n1p6 luks 537 GB ↪dm-0 lvm2 537 GB ↪dm-2 ext4 34 GB (6 GB free) Anyone know how to expand the ext4 partition from 34 GB to the 537 GB? Off to flex my Google Fu.
I think I fixed it but when I tried the upgrade again it squawked about the free space, but I was able to pick the location & it's doing a timeshift backup now. 🤷🏽♂️
From the time I joined the Linux community 8 years ago, up til now, Linux Mint has always been the best introductory distro to Linux. It’s fantastic.
Especially now there is a Debian version
Right, I've put like 30 different distros on my drive, and mint with cinnamon has never failed me. They're all the same if you know what you are doing, just different types and versions of packages.
But somehow mint 21 cinnamon feels a little buggy
Lmao you can't say that when you have to enter a command to upgrade
@@cempack you don't have to use terminal. This is his way of doing that.
3:08 actually, from what I've read, mintupgrade isn't installed by default because it's a new tool the mint team developed a short while ago. This is the first time we've used it.
They're planning to use it for all future updates and it will be included in new releases
Yepp, gotta install mintupgrade first 💪
Thanks for the guide, I need to update my cousin's laptop. He's using Mint 20.3. Truly appreciated.
Boy am I happy to hear that it's an in-place upgrade! I used to use PCLinuxOS (My very first Linux Distro), and while it was good for my needs, I had to update Libre Office to a current "Community Release", or something like that, but what really irked me was this one upgrade that forced me to totally uninstall the OS, install the new version and then "restore it". What a hemorrhoid that was!!! Linux Mint is so superior in so many ways, like its' stability, updating packages, "Spices", ease of use, and the fact that it recognizes my HP printer and prints easily (albeit with a slight delay). The optional HPLIP software icon in the taskbar is a cool thing to have too. Last, but not least!--Thank you for putting this absolutely excellent video together! Really nice job. Now I can proceed confidently.
It would be nice IF it worked. But the process always stalls because of unacceptable packages on my system, that the "remove" button can't remove. I am not a guru or a sorcerer supreme, and there are no instructions about removing these packages. I posted my problems on the Linux Mint forums with no response yet (could it be that the forums are swamped with these unsolvable road blocks?).
Linux Mint devs really made the OS upgrade easy and straightforward, well done. It would be good to compare that to the other major LTS distros. Thx for sharing this step by step guide, its quite helpful!
I'm currently using Linux Mint 19.3 Cinnamon 64bit. Will there be extenuating circumstances that I need to address before following this guide?
I am very new to LInux, as I began my journey about June of 2020. I did a fresh install at that time, and have added numerous apps along the way, mostly around video and Plex.
Your reply is greatly appreciated.
TIA
Nick
This actually reminded me to upgrade my girlfriend's laptop to 21. Thanks DT!
Your girlfriend is thinkpad?
@@darukutsu Try again.
@@utubepunk nah he was right
girlfriend? you are not a true linux user
You gave a laptop to your right hand?
I gave up upgrading mint and just do fresh installs and migrations for them around v14, took way less time and actually worked.
I know how to use most distros, but I find Mint to be a very comfortable choice. I like it!
Comfortable. That's a good description.
Mint and ZorinOS are the benchmarks of ease of access and friendliness to new users.
Comfort and ease of use are the main selling points of Mint 💪
@Jugoslavija Linux Mint works! You don't have to fix things, it just works. It works for most people, including me and those who need to have their computer resurrectd!
@Jugoslavija I know, it's a great distro! High five!
Yeah! It was a bit rougher for me. I had pyhton 3.11 and must be to reinstall it. I also reinstalled Chrome. Delete PPAs and reinstall repositories. The upgrade chance the postgres default port. I don't know why. Other issue was that because I have matte, I had to make several adjustments to the appearance. However all custom settings were left intact dor all other apps. And that's is it. 😉.
Happy new year to you and thanks you for your amazing contents.
Thanks! Still useful as am upgrading to Linux Mint 22
Funny Mint story. I had one last windows 10 laptop left on my farm. It's sole purpose was to let me play RuneScape. A while ago the game stopped working correctly. I also noticed that when the screen refreshed, it would hesitate and jiggle just a tiny bit and would reset my file manager back to the top of the list. So I got frustrated and finally decided to try RuneScape on Mint. What do you know! RuneScape works really well on Mint. That day my last reason to exist on windows died.
What are you doing here leaving comments? That's EXP waste.
@linyos torovoltosI mean if you're doing serious gaming you're prob gonna have a separate dedicated GPU anyway.. but people without it might as well stick to windows tbh if you're really serious
I opted for the upgrade and it has taken a hours😮. Maybe by next year it will be ready. It did help when moved my laptop nearer the router.
I enjoy your channel very much. I followed your video and successfully upgraded to Mint 21. Keep up your great work.
Very helpful thank you DT
Thanks for the guide! ❤️
Linux Mint is awesome!!!! I still dual boot only when I need Windoze........ Thanks for the vid.... Just upgraded 1 PC and now the second. Great work from the Linux Mint team... I donated some $$$$$ to those guys for such a awesome job..... Keep up the great work guys
On my old laptop mine had me do the snapshot. I took a little bit of time but over all mine updated really well :)
I remember you saying you're from Louisiana in 1 video. Pretty neat be ause I'm from Louisiana too. Glad to know there's more Linux fans in our state.
There are plenty of Linux fans all around the world. Rainy Greetings from Germany 💪🇩🇪
I was expecting a simple `sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade && sudo apt dist-upgrade` but nope, you go and use timeshift and back things up for safety. Nice.
Many people want a all GUI solution and thats where mintupgrade shines 💪😁
One of my machines is running Vanessa. This was something I had been wondering about, but had not explored as yet. Now I know. Thanks!!!
Good stuff!
I'm wondering about recovery, using that snapshot. Would you use a live USB and restore from that?
Very good video only ran into one problem and that was an outdated version of Chrome, nice job.
I have mint 19 and have a warning end of life less than 80 days, I wish to upgrade to 21.1 without losing any file or config, whats the best way to do this? ps it is backed up so dw about braking it i need some good advice tho it has a web server and samba and node js etc, i even wish to preserv sudoiers and cronjobs too any ideas?
As far as I know, orphaned packages are still in the repo, but were old dependencies for other packages that were not explicitely Installed by the user.
At least, that's what it means on Arch Linux.
I think you are correct, the same is true for apt. IIRC it normally says something like "the following packages are no longer needed and will be removed" when you do "apt upgrade" on any *buntu I have used..
I love Mint, it was my second distro from Ubuntu when I was getting started. I have hopped around to see, but I always come back to Mint. I am using LMDE5 right now love it, just wish I could do better gaming on it.
I guess I was the lucky few for whom the upgrade completely bungled up their system. It would restart in emergency mode and just loop there. What's funny is that even the Timeshift failed somehow. Thankfully I had imaged the whole drive a week ago. So let this be a cautionary tale and back up and then back up some more.
Great video clearly explained with all steps defined in ann easy way. The video made the process of going from Linux Mint 20.3 to 21 look simple and easy, unfortunately for me it failed. Once the tool created the Snapshot it was not able to be checked and the update stuck at that point. I haven't found a solution as yet so if anyone has a suggestion I would appreciate your help.
The upgrade from 20.xx to 21.xx was less painful than 19.xx to 20.xx IMO.
Yepp, mintupgrade is a fantastic tool which makes the upgrade a breeze. 🙏
I was almost about to post a comment like "do the backup first!" when you started to apt install mintupgrade, but then it offered you the same :)
It not only offers, it forces you to create a snapshot 💪😅
I take this a step further and use Clonezilla to image my entire system and store it for a rainy day.
I've heard too many horror stories of timeshft rollbacks being unsuccessful.
@@RK-kn1ud that is interesting. Do you recon any specific details? Because timeshift is just a fancy wrapper around rsync, I can imagine whatever can go wrong with it, means that the usual strategy of backing up your system as set of files will also fail. One case I can think of myself is when you might get a fs corruption or MBR corruption - there's no way just returning back your files from a backup will help here. But what else?
@@alx8439 Nothing specific, but if you search the linuxmint subreddit you will probably find lots of people saying that using timeshft caused a bunch of issues.
I'm not informed enough to determine if they were right or wrong, but a simple clone is probably better than whatever timeshift does.
@@RK-kn1ud yeah i do agree, there's nothing more solid than a full physical byte-to-byte hardcopy of the whole disk. But that approach is not for everyone, as it takes a lot of storage.
*Zoom in on terminal for the video*. It's the little things. Thank you for that and for a helpful walkthrough.
Even though I have used Ubuntu and now Mint for about 13 years, I find that whenever I have to perform upgrades to newer versions, or install anything ... if I follow the directions provided, there seems to be something preventing the process along the way. This was the case with this upgrade. With the idea that doing this upgrade could cause problems with my system ... I almost want to keep the version I already have. I am just a "user" and that is all I am interested in. It should be an easy and safe process for anyone to do.
Hmmm, this makes me less skeptical about using Mint. My biggest concern is getting stuck on a release and then having to do a full reinstall to move to a new release.
Yup. They keep making it better & better.
The Mint Team has got you covered. Mintupgrade is a fantastic tool that makes the upgrade a breeze 💪
And that's why point releases are archaic as hell. Rolling will always reign supreme PERIOD
It's actually possible if you'll skip not one but many releases. At least it's true with Ubuntu.
@@Perry.... seems like i must do a Video on Point vs Rolling releases 💪😁
I love Mints static releases, I am one who likes to use software updates I know that just work and only update when I need to for security reasons or what ever I am currently doing is not supported by that version of the software, especially Nvidias software I install the version I know works and stick with it till a game demands the newer versions.
I got so annoyed with win10 mysterious behaviors (mostly network) so I tried a few live distros. Been using mint21 for weeks now. Sound was a little confusing at first, some apps want exclusive control. Blender3, renoise, obs28, codeblocks, vscode, arduino2, firefox, media players... all good.
I switched from win7 to mint 20.3 XFCE with Twister UI with win95 theme. I had a hard time getting the audio quality to be currect. It was a lot of editing config files and running commands to see what worked. I ended up changing the audio from 16bit 44khz stereo to 32bit 96khz 5.1 surround with upconvert. I also wish there was a better video player. VLC seems to be the best but it lack a lot of the features of Media Player Classic which is an open source software for windows. It would be nice if DT did a video on configuring audio.
I recently moved from windows to linux and I already have linux mint 21 cinnamon but I'm facing an issue here. Everything works fine when I boot up until I suspend. When I wake my laptop from suspend. the processor fan doesn't run no matter how hot the processor and CPU gets. I don't know if it's because of the OS.
May be a Kernel update would fix it, I don't know. There's a Kernel update but I'll do it next week.
I hope someone answers. I have Mint on my laptop as well & I wouldn't even notice if the fan never kicked on! 😬
I'm on 21 Cinnamon Mint. After suspension, I don't get this issue. Mint might not be the problem. Hope you can figure it out!
Isn't it amazing you can do an 1,800 package update on Mint and it works. Do half of that in arch or Manjaro and it bricks the system 9 times out of 10.
Thats the strength of Mint 💪
I have had good luck with all the *buntus I have tried. I am on KDE neon and it has been solid. Of course, it is based on LTS so not the best example. I like my KDE bleeding edge because I love to see the new features but I want most other stuff to be new enough but stable. If I feel like the ubuntu repository is too slow for any certain program I just add it's repo or "nightly" or whatever for bleeding edge. As far as I understand flatpaks work similarly. This video did inspire me to look into setting up snapshots somehow... Now I have a weekend project, wish me luck!
@@MaxUgly Good Luck, Sir 💪😎
@@ArniesTech TY! I thought it was going to be difficult because I am using ext4. I was under the impression I needed something more modern like btrfs.
I just read a few forums and reddit posts, found Timeshift in Discover, installed it, configured it and made a snapshot! I think I am going to plug in an old sata ssd so that my snapshot is on another drive. I already backup my /home to a btrfs hdd striped/mirrored array once every few days.
Voids ISO is a year old and doesn't break when updating like 20 kernel versions ahead. G.O.A.T 🐐
I still run cinnamon 17 on my offline laptop. To get current i would have to install 18, 19, 20, etc until I'm current?
I am about as novice as they come. I switched to Linux Mint about 2 years ago, maybe 3, and I really want to upgrade to Cinnamon (going by what I was told from person that installed Mint, but in another state before moving). My problem is I am not familiar with all the terminology of this OS. Sure i could watch all these videos till I''m blue in the face. But my problem is being uncertain of what I'm doing. I would be open to upgrading to 21. I am still on Mint 19.3. I clearly need to upgrade this based on what you are doing. The person I knew in New Mexico who installed this for me had Cinnamon on his system. I don't live there any more. I liked the look of it and basic operation of functions. He said it was better than Mint. I need a supervisor and cannot find someone (even in a college town) that is nerdy enough to help me with this. I am frustrated.
Sometimes it pays to start fresh....
I tried upgrading to Vanessa. Got up to the system snapshot step. It seemed to be stuck in a loop. No progress was made on the upgrade. Any tips? Also, before I tried mint upgrade, I was getting an apt cache error, so I ran sudo apt install then sudo apt upgrade to get the up to date stuff for my machine.
When I try the command: sudo mintupgrade I get a error. Please dont run this command as root or with elevated privileges.
But when I use the MATE desktop I can upgrade to 20.
A update to 20 with systemreport wont also not work it opens firefox with a blog and it starts a systemcheck and after that its coming back at the beginning.
If anyone get error something like 'Cloudsmith' then click on fix , go to additional repositories and remove Cloudsmith
I take it that these instructions won't work if you have Linux Mint Cinnamon 20.2 or will they? Evidently my repository is not updated and there are remnants of a VPN I tried unsuccessfully to install that are posing problems after following your instructions typing in [sudo apt install mintupgrade] How can I update the repository and get rid of all traces of the VPN which was never functional?
Mint is my distro of choice. On it I game, perform big data analysis and programming.
Do you use cinnamon or xfce?
@@elixirmotivation cinnamon!
It says i can't do it because my vision is 'Vera' and not 'Una'
Help....
Isn't sudo apt a ubuntu command? What about if you have DE Mint?
I have followed your instructions and when I try to run mint upgrade all that happens is that it tells me to please don't run this command as root or with elevated priviliges. I'm trying to upgrade from 19.3
I'm in the middle of doing this exact upgrade 20.3 to 21, and it never asked about snapshots (I had one from initial 20.1 install 2 years ago I guess) and it's been downloading for over an hour even tho I'm running at 50 Mbps 😮
I have tried this method several times, but it never works. I make notes and write every thing down just as he says to do, but it never upgrades. Today I tried again and everything looked like it was going to work, but it didn't. I give up. Probably go back to windows. I've got eight days left before support runs out for 19.3
Thanks for the useful vid, brother.
I prefer running LM from a USB with 'Persistence', instead of dual boot with Windows. Do you know if updating to the next version of LM will keep (or affect) that Persistence?
Reason I'm asking: about 6 months back, I tried to set up the newest LM on a new USB drive...& Persistence doesn't seem to work with that. (So, I reverted to older LM (21.3?): Persistence does work still, on that.)
Great work thank you
I get
Can 19.3 be upgraded from a thumb drive? I use my phone as my internet. There is no real isp in the woods where I live.
You actually pronounced _Realitätsverlust_ perfectly. Thumbs up!
I was just as impressed 💪🇩🇪
Typical Linux did what you said in the terminal but mine doesn't have an update tool 😱
I appreciate this video but you didn't address the BIG question - what about existing files on a real not a virtual machine? Are they intact or wiped out? I know you should back up but what if someone didn't. Could you please address this, thank you.
I recently posted a vudeo on how to upgrade to Mint 21. I also like your way of presentation very much, Derek 💪🙏
mine says unable to locate package mintupgrade
Can I use this to upgrade from 19.3 Tricia to 21.1 Vera?
Thinking of moving from ubuntu studio to mint. Gotta check all my apps are avaliable. Have mint on my laptop already.
I tried to upgrade 19.3 Mint to 21.1, but it had to go to 20.00 first. Was a disaster, with hours of package installs and then broken packages. I worked for a day to fix it all only to end up with a corrupted 20.0 updated system. Threw it away and installed 21.1 with guest additions and extensions in less than an hour. This was a VM.
Hopefully this saves someone some time... The mintupgrade can only be installed to the immediate previous version. If you are a couple versions behind back, like I was (20.1 trying to go to 21, you'll need to use the update manager to get the version immediately prior to the "current" version you are trying to install. In my case I had to install 20.3 first.
Hello DT!
I want upgrade from 19.3 to 21.1 . I coudn't , Can you tell me what should I do
I have tried Debian and all Ubuntu flavors but I have never had the chance to upgrade them.
Thanks, still using Linux have not switch back, win really does sucks.
Thanks for your advice. If I have not upgraded for a while and am running mint 19.3 can I just run the current upgrade and skip the inbetween ones.
i'm not getting the fix option. i
My version of linux is Virginia now what i do now??
Long story short. I bought a used pc with w10. My old pc was w7. I also installed mint 20.3. Since I am learning both systems, and I don't trust w10 I want to get rid of w10. Do I need to do the iso route in order to eliminate w10 and just install 21.1. I made the mistake of a dual boot and found out I really do not like w10.
Think this only works for 20 to 21. I'm still on 19 so may have to do a complete reinstall?
Does that tool work on LMDE?
How often do you guys sudo update/upgrade ? Thanks
Every week or so. Most distros have a way to turn on automatic updates and to schedule updates, if you don't want to have remember to do it yourself.
I most often use the GUI Update Manager...except the rare occasions to blacklist an item I don't want touched.
I have 170 GB and only used 27% so 3/4 of its free I keep getting need more disk space overflow error 233472
I've had problems a few times when attempting this so I always just do a fresh install instead of upgrade.
What's wrong with apt dist upgrade?
Nothing at all. But many users prefer as much GUI as possible. Thats where mintupgrade comes in handy. 💪
This video convinced me to upgrade from 20.3 but it went tragically/comically wrong. The installer went well, though it asked to remove some orphaned packages, etc. It then said I was safe to reboot. On reboot it says "Error out of memory...Press any key to continue", it then ends with a Kernel panic. I don't see any way to boot into a previous installation. I was using Timeshift before but I'm not sure if that can help me now. I get the same error when I try to boot into recovery mode.
How much RAM do you have?
i used linux mint, but not for too long to upgrade the distro to the next version...can't the user upgrade the distro from the update tool? it should be a voice that says that you can upgrade from there...right?
Is my home directory files are safe ?
Good video.
What if /home is on a different partition? Will it be detected?
it doesn't matter because the upgrade process deals with /boot and /root.
your separate /home partition should be affected
BUT if you're using any metacity based themes...know they probably will no longer work.
Smurphos's bigger buttons metacity theme dealing with bigger min, max, and close buttons won't work as of this comment in LM21.
I did the upgrade last month and it totally destroyed my configuration at work. First I didn't like to be obliged to run Timeshift. Then after the upgrade was install, I rebooted and impossible to launch X server. So I got back to the previous version made with the snapshot and it was impossible to make eth0 working. In the end, I was obliged to make a fresh install, losing cool programs like Wxmp3gain I spent a lot of time to install. I still have the previous version on my personal laptop and I don't dare to upgrade it for the same reasons
always make a system image back up before doing any major Linux distro upgrade...there is never a guarantee that all things will just work after rrh upgrade finishes and you reboot
@@motoryzen I had no choice making a back up with timeshift but next time, I will make one with Clonezilla
Nice
Oh. I read the title as "Upgrade Linux Mint From Version One To The Next" and thought you would try to to upgrade from earliest available version to latest
Lol that would be a respectable feat 💪😅
That sounds like something _MichaelMJD_ would do...
Go suggest it over on his channel.
Thank you!
Hey DT, I recently upgraded my hard drive from a 500 GB nvme to a 2 TB nvme. I cloned the disk (which has Win10 & Mint in a dual boot config) & to my surprise it just worked. However... I expanded the drive for Mint to 500 GBs in gparted, however in disk usage analyzer, it shows my / directory is only 33.9 GBs w/ 5.6 GBs available. Nemo also shows the little bar that indicates my Home is nearly full. Any suggestions? Both my swap & the Linux drive are encrypted.
Edit: The lack of free space means no snapshot for the upgrade. 😖
nvme0n1p6 luks 537 GB
↪dm-0 lvm2 537 GB
↪dm-2 ext4 34 GB (6 GB free)
Anyone know how to expand the ext4 partition from 34 GB to the 537 GB?
@@utubepunk boot into gparted or live iso, open your crypt with luksOpen, then resize the encrypted partition
@@jacobhanks8420 TH-cam deleted my reply. Did you see it? I was able to get it working with a different method.
There's your problem. Dual booting in 2022 is a joke
You move your face around so much, as a fellow TH-camr, how do you keep your voice audio at the same level? When I move my face sideways while speaking, it loses like 50% of its volume, so when I speak, I need to face the same way the whole time... Is it your mic that makes sure that doesn't happen, or is it maybe some script you run to enhance it?
Depends on the mic. I move a lot too but my mic catches everything within 120° without sound alterations 🙏
@@ArniesTech Hah... Thank you!
@@Stevesteacher You are welcome, Sir 💪
I move a bit but I'm never turning my head more than probably 45 degrees each each way. And the mic isn't that far from me...maybe 4-5 inches. The camera makes it seem like there's more distance than there is. ;) Also, if your volume drops when moving around, turn up the gain a bit...and make sure you speak loudly (not shouting, but speak with some authority).
@@DistroTube Thank you! I tried what you said, I think I had my mike too close to my mouth, I moved it away a bit and turned up the volume and it seems to be much better now :)
I personally hate the nagging of using timeshift. I have my own solid backup systems in place. The 19 -> 20 upgrade required timeshift to be enabled. wtf?
LM mentions Timeshift only ONCE during the Welcome Screen deal and you can ignore it in the System Reports application to where it does r bother you reminding you to use it.
oooh wow...big game dookie lol
@@motoryzen No. I could not progress in the mintupgrade app without timeshift active and having backup. BTW, I use timeshift... it's just that I use it with custom configs and not hour-cron.d based like the Mint defaults.
@@SB-qm5wg It let me just fine without having had any timeshift prior backups done ( meaning my timeshift drive was completely disconnected when I did my upgrade on my older 4790k machine).
I'm curious if there is an accidental misunderstanding here
I’ve been trying to get in touch with you DT regarding installation. How do I get in touch?
Huh? What is it you're trying to do?
You are much better off asking for help in the forums of your distro. 💪
Is this work with LMDE ?
Mintupgrade is a mainline edition Tool. Since LMDE isn't even planning on upgrading. But I am pretty sure this Tool will be made available for LMDE too 💪
@@ArniesTech But probably when LMDE 6 is coming they make this tool usable ?
@@angelborislavov9192 I guess so. Would be absolutely nice. As I stated in my video I am all for LMDE becoming THE only Mint anyway. Along with getting 100% of the dev power and dedication. Not just a fraction of it 💪
None of these commands work for me
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will I lose alll my data
New Linux user, here. I see DT doing the Update command then after using the Upgrade command. I thought I read that they do the same thing, but that Upgrade is the proper one. Is that not the case? Should I be doing Update and then after doing Upgrade?
@@arvfrr I think you understood everything. Now, what exactly do you mean Upgrade won't be upgrading anything? I've been running that command (without Update) for a few weeks now and it lists things it is apparent upgrading.
Perhaps it will simply upgrade more things if I don't update? Like the "repositories" aren't synced or something (Pardon my un-tech-savviness)?
I was curious, so I hopped on my computer and typed in "sudo dnf upgrade" and it listed a bunch of things. Apparently it is installing things like "kernel-core" and "kernel-modules", upgrading things poor "pipewire-alsa" and "pipewire-gstreamer", and removing things like (another version of?) "kernel-core" and "kernel-modules."
Also, it's worth nothing that I "upgraded" yesterday so perhaps there isn't much for it to upgrade, and perhaps more things would have been upgraded had I not upgraded so recently.
So after I upgraded and everything was "complete!", I tried "sudo dnf update" and it came back with "Dependencies resolved. Nothing to do. Complete!" And just for good measure, in case "dependencies resolved" meant something like "respiratory updated" I went ahead and did the "sudo dnf upgrade" command again and it, too, came back with "Dependencies resolved. Nothing to do. Complete!"
Is it because I'm on Fedora that these two commands seem to do the same thing? Or is there something I'm misunderstanding?
@@arvfrr Like, I noticed you're using the Debbian/Ubuntu "apt" thing. So maybe there's a difference in how they work?
@@savior132 Okay, I gotcha. Thank you for the clarification!
That's what i did with my 10 year old laptop (I put Linux kde neon plasma on my USB stick) completely removed windows since it no longer supports my system in the coming years, i jumped a head of time to future proof my machine with Linux, because Linux supports older hardware way better than windows does and for the long term too.
Hey DT
Congrats on hitting 200k!
What happened to your mu4e config i can't find it on your Gitlab?
hey dt!
Yo yo!
@@DistroTube I wonder of there's a Distro made of Tubes (JK JK)
How have you been?
@@DistroTube *if
If you have a dual boot you will have to update Grub
Currently running 20.3. Let's do this!
Edit: Crash & burn. Not enough free space for a snapshot.
nvme0n1p6 luks 537 GB
↪dm-0 lvm2 537 GB
↪dm-2 ext4 34 GB (6 GB free)
Anyone know how to expand the ext4 partition from 34 GB to the 537 GB? Off to flex my Google Fu.
I think I fixed it but when I tried the upgrade again it squawked about the free space, but I was able to pick the location & it's doing a timeshift backup now. 🤷🏽♂️
You can always start with a live iso and change the partition size from gparted