Just because it's "unfathomable" to her doesn't mean it didn't happen. The fact that her kids were doing drugs at age 10 speaks to how unsupervised they were.
@@nippyvocals928 it's not only Cissy's fault. John Houston was the one who stood at home with the kids while Cissy was on tour. He should have known that something was happening to their kids!
BeachMiguel sobe I'm sorry to hear that I hope you stay in peace and happy for the monster he did this to you life will not gonna be easy he or she will be miserable!
BeachMiguel sobe I was molested when I was going to primary school by my step father and my mom didn’t believe me .....and I’m now 17 .....I never really get over it....
If you watched the film you’ll realize this whole family is a big pile of dysfunction. Whitney was extremely talented and just so happened to become super successful...doesn’t change the fact that she came from a terrible background with terrible people surrounding her.
@kaitlyn Calcote, of course they were dysfunctional. Most of us knew that before this documentary. I will guarantee you Whitney isn’t the only successful person who came from a dysfunctional background. Look at Bobby Brown. He isn’t innocent by know means. You seem very judgmental. I hope I’m wrong because if you look around you, there are many of us who have come from dysfunctional families.
My heart goes out to Whitney!! I honestly feel like Whitney's mother is in denial. Like what reason would her brother have to lie. I was Sexually molested by my neighbor at age 10 An it never ever leaves you!! Now I understand why Whitney turned to drugs it breaks my heart because nobody should have to go through this!!! I'm a Survivor thank God!!!
tbh I don't think you can blame the drug abuse on the sexual abuse. There are are millions of sexual abuse survivors that don't turn to drugs. And there are millions of drug abusers that haven't been sexually abused. Drug addiction is a disease in itself and is hereditary. Obviously the two things intersect for her and I'm certain it played a role in escaping. But had Whitney Houston never been sexually abused, its still likely she would have tried drugs and become addicted.
King Leno Right, that is so what true. It depends on how that person chose to deal with it. My older cousins was molested by their father all 3 of them but 1( because she was a baby)and on top of that my dumb ass auntie don't believe them or leave his ass. but out all the 3 of them that we're molested.... Only one of them got hooked on drugs BAD she sold her body for drugs, she wasn't the best mom they was raise by their grandma. And to this day it's an issue and a on going thing in her life. But the other 2 have no drug issue like her and living happy lives. With that being said your comment is so what true that depends on that person strong will or if they got help/therapy to talk about it.
If Gary is admitting it was DeeDee, Cissy has to believe it. That's why people who are molested never speak out because people doubt the truth. It's sad.
Cissy knows it happened but can't admit she failed as a mother. It's always about Cissy whenever she talks about Whitney, and how do I know? Because I know what a good mother is. The folk complimenting Cissy don't know her, but we all saw the demons Whitney and then her daughter BK had to face before they were both murdered for Whitney's Estate and Music Catalogue with royalties rolling in for ever more.
coz his wife looks so evil, she's like manipulating all the post death documentaries and movies... she's like the Bank, she has the money bag! not Cissy... she's adding spices to everything to make it more marketable with exciting twists and turns... her whole face is money
Rose davison well rose this was a year ago when I said this and my feelings have DEFINITELY changed since then and now I don’t love cissy like how I said before now have a nice day and keep it pushin😂
My family bears many of the same toxic traits shown in the film. I bleed for Whitney. So sorry that she didn't get the peace and the help that she needed to survive.
And THAT is the reason she started doing drugs in the 80's ... That secret must have haunted her for so many years that she felt she had no other way to turn except the drug route 😫
My heart goes out to . Whitney's mother this is something that happens in a lot of families so please don't feel alone in this kind of situations, much love to the family and have an awesome rest of the day.
Nhan Nguyen first of all thank you for your reply, and I am old school as well and you know how you try to trust people and they go and do something like this thats awful so this family is not the only one, so try to have a good one.
chris thompson first of all thank you for your reply, and you are right because when it comes to money this is how people react ,and then they put on and off at times so as soon as something happens this is a result of what else can take place also people have to answer to . God almighty for what they do . God does not play so enough said for now and love to you and your family.
I cannot believe that Gary did not even speak to his own mother about this in private first before sharing such a devastating and private trauma with the rest of the world ?! Any parent would be shocked and distraught. It confirms that this is just a very dysfunctional family. Patricia and Gary did Whitney and the family wrong. Using private pain to make profits publicly is sick. Michael and Gary simply never knew how to be brothers and protect her and her legacy or her daughter. Kudos to Robyn Crawford for staying out of this movie. Now i know why she didnt want any part of it..
@Caz, well said and oh so right! Robyn truly loved her and has never betrayed her while she was alive and even after her death. Robyn is going to take their secrets to the grave. She is a true friend!
@Tay, you are right. However, I think they told their mom years ago, but she is devastated that he publicly revealed it. I just can't believe that neither one of the kids NEVER said anything to anyone in the family. Also, Dioanne is angry that it is out, too, because she is embarrassed. Black families don't like secrets being told. My mother used to say "don't tell my business." Cissy just doesn't want to be judged as a bad mom, and she doesn't want to feel like she had any part of the reason Whitney used drugs. I do feel bad for Cissy in this situation, it wasn't her fault this happened to her children.
@Iyabinghi, so right. Her mother seems unapproachable. Look at the way she is basically calling her son a liar in the media. Why would he lie about that? It would serve no purpose, people are already going to go see the documentary because they can't get enough of Whitney. You are right she knew about this beforehand. Just like they knew she was in love with Robyn and they were lovers. Her mother couldn't accept the lesbian relationship. So sad...
I believe pat is no good but regarding Gary not telling his mother, I think if he had she would not have believed him. That movie didn’t show the full side of Whitney’s mother. It is well known that she is mean and was mean to her kids. She has 3 kids at young ages strung out in dope and she saw nothing wrong or does she thinks she did anything wrong. That’s odd to me.
If the sexual abuse occurred, it was something that was probably too embarrassing for her children to talk about then. Children trust family members to do the right thing while they are in their care. They probably did not understand what or why this even happened to them. The #me too movement has allowed men and women to find their voices and begin to heal from these sexual acts of abuse that have lingered for years. It takes strength and courage to come forward to face and speak about these acts. So much hurt and pain. I believe this film will cause many people to face the past where hidden deeds happened and hopefully get the help they need and seek out the resources to help them in the healing process. Whitney Houston was so much more than "the voice." We are learning more about the person who had the voice. We all have our trials and tribulations. She was in the public and the public feels it is owed every detail about your life. She gave her all and throughout her life she still knew that Jesus loved her. She will forever be a treasure God blessed the world with. My prayers are with her family, friends, and all those who cared about her. ❤🌹❤
david mcmannis I don't know his reasons or his timing for his revelation of what he claimed happened to him. I am hoping someone who may be hurt or devastated from abuse will seek the help they need so their healing may begin.
I can understand Whitney’s mother being in shock when told about the molestation but to deny it ever happened tells me she is more worried about her own self image than the molestation of her two children. I read elsewhere that she no longer has anything to do with her son Gary because of him telling his truth. How sad. What a cold hearted woman she seems to be. I think she knows it’s true. Just like she knows it’s true that she left them with relatives many times when they were growing up. I believe she might be the reason all 3 of her kids turned to drugs to cope with life. Cold hearted and seems to lack motherly love. I wonder if she was jealous of Whitney?
U hit the nail on the head. Whitney literally repeated everything with her daughter. Only diffrence was the fame/money. Everything happened sooner. Even the overdose
In Whitney defense she thought by taking her child with her and not leaving her behind was the right thing to do. Unfortunately, it was not, due to her not dealing with her own issues. I do not believe there is a right or wrong way thing could have been handle, but if it was me. I would have taken time off from my career to raise my child. I believe her music was her way to cope but the fame was overloading easy way to get sucked in 😢 Poor Whitney
Many people leave their kids with relatives but she said Dee Dee wasn't one. She never said she didn't believe. She said it was unfathomable. But it must be hard to hear and she probably feels guilty. Whitney and Dee Dee were into women. Wonder why that happened. Whitney apparently never left her daughter anywhere and took her with her maybe because or what happened to her. Why were all 3 kids on drugs?
Most definitely it's all types of videos out now saying Cissy wasn't even her mother. Can't quite put my finger on it but there is something very strange about her. How could your grade school age kids be on hard drugs and you had no idea GTFOOH.
I can believe that. That explains all of the turmoil in her life. I feel sorry for Whitney and Gary may she rest in peace. A lot of molestation goes on in families. The parents are ashamed to address it, or do anything about it. It's sinful,and the hunter should be punished.
No one, ever, wants to believe that someone in their family would sexually violate a child- especially their own kin. No loving parent wants to learn that they unknowingly or knowingly put their children in danger of such an experience. However, it happens frequently. One of the most hurtful experiences is having your parent(s) doubt your claims. Maybe Gary didn't speak up, then, because he didn't trust that his mother would back him up. Hmmm. Gary, the sister-in-law, and the assistant...why would they all lie? What do they stand to gain? You said, "If you mess with my children, you mess with me." You've dropped the ball on this one, Ms. Houston; but, it's not too late to pick it back up.
If your child, let alone two of your children claim they were Abused. How do you doubt that claim?????? Do you realise how hard it is for A child to muster the courage to speak off such an Abhorrent Act. To be Abused - Disgusting. To be doubted - Inhumane.
Cissy is in denial and now you know why Whitney Houston couldn’t confide in her!! Look how she responds to her son talking about his sexual abuse! How sad!
I cant see Whitney lieing about such a thing especially when her brother has confirmed he too was molested by Dee Dee, pretty sad for Cissy to not accept what her niece has done making her children out to be liars !!!
Perhaps she's known or suspected since their childhood (most mothers of abused know) but they are so steeped in denial. Sometimes the parent's denial is a worse trauma for the abused child than the abuse itself.
Pat and Mary Jones said that Whitney did confide in them about her abuse at Dee Dee’s hand when they were young and innocent little children....so evil to do something like that ....it is sickening.....but we have to forgive or the evil continues in one form or another.
I love Whitney Houston and still til this very day cannot believe she is gone. But one thing I have said from the beginning is there were plenty of kept secrets in this family. For example I own Cissy Houston book and in the part of her book where she states that she didn't know that Whitney used drugs until the day she went to Whitney's house "lies" She wasn't aware of her daughters romance with Robin "lies"... I can keep going...but to say her kids were not molested when one that is alive claiming this happen but still in denial...smh believe it or not situations like this Does lead people to drugs to numb their feelings and past horrors.. poor Whitney it's really starting to make me believe her family might of been her biggest demons. #RIPWhitey&Krissy
What I do not get is that Whitney mentioned Dee Dee a few times over the years in a few different interviews, talking about what a great singer she was & there is even footage of the two of them dancing together at one of Whitney's birthday parties years ago. Why would she dance with her alleged molester?
Why do women take back their abusers after being abused multiple times ...... Same times when people are in those situations it's really hard to understand why they do things and especially since Dee Dee was her mother's sisters/brothers child ...like that is your family that is all you know even if you know it's wrong .
Looks like the mother since whit was divorced should have been allowed to litsen to all the statements about her daughter and been able to determine rather or not it got in the movie.whit would have never allowed this movie.robin was a true friend why she's not speaking.robin was a friend for life.
They may have had all the money but that family was straight low level. Smh Whitney was the classiest thing they had going and they literally destroyed her. If the mother wouldn't have been on the road chasing fame, maybe those kids would have had a chance, but then again the environment they were working with smdh. Those kids didn't come first if they did she would have been at home with them..
Do you say that about working fathers too? Would you say beyonce is a bad mother as an example? Do mothers get all the blame? Very sad if the children were hurt but she probably trusted her family. Maybe she never imagined they'd do something so bad to their own blood
Cissy is in denial.....she is totally ignoring what her son Gary is saying. She says Dee Dee is dead and gone but Gary isn't. So unless he has a history of being a liar why is Cissy refusing to believe him?
A CHOSEN VESSEL Cissy is in complete denial. She's being forced to acknowledge her mistakes and that she wasn't a perfect mother. No one expects her to have been but she's not trying to believe it happened in the care of someone she left the children with.
I agree Gary shared his pain so she is calling him a liar. I know it UGLY. Unfortunately it happens there are dick folks in the world hope they continue to find peace
Denial or nor this should be dealt with privately. Cissy is just making it clear that this film is just a money hungry stunt from a sister in law who has nothing interesting to bring to W's legacy and should take several seats.
How is she in denial? The woman said deedee never babysit her kids, people are quick to accept negativity overv truth! Gary and pat are exploiting Whitney in death for profit
david mcmannis: Chid please.....we're talking the late 60s and 70s she left them with Dionne's mom and Dee Dee lived with her mother.....so just apply some common sense.
when the person is gone she/he is always accused when cannot defend themselves... the brother and his wife making $$$$ out of a story that cannot be confirmed... I don't believe them, it sounds tooooooo opportunistic
It's obvious Sissy (& Dionne) are in denial, or they may have always known all along and are still trying to keep this private and out of the public eye... Yet, the accusations come from her own son Gary, now why would he lie about something like this and blame their deceased aunt?!!!
I'll tell you why! Money and estate! So she molested two and not the other one! Yeah roght! ( sarcasm ) on top of that it's being told where two other people who were a so called party to it are dead. People have itching ears and goid lie Gary just scratched them. Furthermore y'all listening to a known drug addict that lost his career over drugs. Oh and a person that was supposed to be protecting Whitney the day she "died"! C'mon, really!
Wouldn't be surprised if the charges are true, it was clear Whitney suffered from trauma but I can't watch this documentary as it doesn't seem to come from an authentic or healthy place. Don't trust the way Gary and his wife are always seeking attention so not interested. I love Whitney, recognize her journey was difficult. Rest in peace mama.
First of all was it Gary or Michael who claimed the abuse? I watched an interview where I thought Pat said it was Michael.I agree with those who say this is unfair as neither women are here to confirm or deny this. At the very least don't name the abuser. Trying to understand this from Cissy's point of view, I read her book Remembering Whitney. She's lost all her siblings, her parents at a young age, a daughter, a granddaughter, two nieces that I know of and who knows all else. She loves her daughter and her niece and doesn't want to believe such a horrible thing. This is also Dionne's sister and the cousin she loved like a daughter. its not unlike most families when this is revealed. I can't imagine her son not telling her.
Why would Gary lie about something like that? I think Ms Sissy May be in denial and embarrassed that the media knows and is questioning her about it. Y’all leave it alone. RIP Whitney!!!!
Why did Kevin (the movie director) say 'Gary Garland Houston told him he had been molested by a woman in the family & he thought Whitney may have been too ... when I hear Whitney never spoke to Gary personally about it, only to Mary Jones)??? And why is thia latest horrific discovery something the family would want to make into a movie off Whitney's personal sscrets??? Are they that broke & desparate that they have sell Whitney's personal tragedies to make a dollar now??? Why don't you all get a job, or utilize your music gifts ,& talents???
No wonder Whitney didn't tell her own family, her mother would not have believed her and her own blood betrayed her by abusing her. In light of this information, her addiction is not only understandable but statistically likely. She should be remembered for the formidable talent that she was and her faults and flaws only add to her humanity and I empathize with her.
Let Whitney and Dee Dee's memories rest in peace with pleasant thoughts of their mutual successes as opposed to salacious gossip Ms Cissy need not bother to defend nor comment.
Bro lot of people saying it's not true in the comments because Whitney didn't mention it,but put ur self in her place,I u a man or woman was molested by the same sex would u talk or keep it too ur self
@@TTUploads yeah that's true, but it's hard for someone who is molested by the same sex, because the shame is much more intense and some people question if their something about them which attach the same sex
And why is this anyone's business? Seriously? Even if it is true? What are you going to do about it? How is broadcasting this story helping any of these people?
So why was Whitney saying she loved her "Auntie Dee Dee" even though they were cousins that's what she called her. There's public videos of Whitney talking about Dee Dee.
I haven’t seen the film yet, so I can’t really say what was discussed in the film. So far though, from what I’ve heard, it seems like they’re both (the director of the film and Garry) said it was a woman who supposedly molested them. It seems like it is almost speculation as to whether it was DD or not to? That’s what I’m guessing, but then again, I didn’t see the film, so I can’t say for sure if they actually said it was DD. I know in Whitney‘s interview with Oprah in 2009, she made it seem like she and DD. were very close. As far as Whitney’s mother goes, I do find it a little suspicious that they told her just a few days before the movie was to be released. Had they told her before that, she probably would have advocated for shelving this movie. At least until they sorted things out, or she may have wanted that part edit it out. You have to admit, that does look a little sketchy. Like she said, Whitney is not here to confirm or deny these allegations, and if she never knew about it before, and she knows who she placed in the care of her children, if she interest of those people in her children’s care, she may not have known if they may have put the care in someone else’s Else while they went out and did whatever. I think something happened, yes, but I also think part of the drugs was because they were being teenage kids, and as she writes in her book, whatever Whitney‘s brothers did, Whitney wanted to do. Director of the film also guess that Whitney may have been sexually abused because and one interview when asked what made her angry she said that child abuse makes her angry. To most people, child-abuse would make anyone angry. I guess, that’s what lead him on the path to finding out that she was supposedly molested. And if she’s just finding out now, I can’t imagine the horror, chalk, and devastation she must feel. She’s already lost her daughter and her granddaughter, now she has to deal with this new revelation? And where is Mikal fit into all of this?
I don't care for bobby whatsoever as I believe Whitney marrying him triggered her downfall but it's crazy how her family was always quick to throw all of the blame on him for how she turned out when they were obviously no better. I feel like her mother failed her as a parent
While Cissy was singing on tour with Aretha Franklin, Elvis Presley & others...who did she leave her children with, the dad? (He could have been doing his own thing and paid Dee Dee, the older cousin to watch the kids! Or Dee Dee could have been around the same people, or in the same place), where her Whitney & Gary were being babysitted, especially if it was with a family! member)!!! This is one of the prices you pay for stardom, not being there to see your childtem growing up with other family members you think you know & trust!!!
Virginia Coleman Dee Dee was just as booked and busy as Cissy if not more booked and busier than than Cissy - that’s why Dee Dee could have never baby sat the kids.
Thats the thing with the black community, our elders are so often trying to sweep traumatic experiences that happened to us under the rug to protect the family image🤦🏾and im sick of it.
I’m not gonna say it’s not true, but Pat and Gary are not the type people I wouldn’t put using this as a hooker to get people to watch either. It’s really the only “new” piece of information. Otherwise there’s no need to see the doc. I went and I literally have heard everything else already right here on TH-cam. Pat and Gary GARLAND are doing whatever they can to financially benefit from Whitney’s legacy smh. First in life, now in death.
TreeABaby1 We don't know the real truth, but I agree with you completely about those 2. Since Whitney's funeral, I have been looking at them like wth. Pat's "eulogy" sounded like an alibi and was hardly respectful to Whitney. Her jealousy towards her is overwhelming; therefore, I try to avoid anything with her in it. All about the money with her and him. Disgusting.
TreeABaby1 Listen to Pat Garland and Ray, her overpaid security guard of a brother. I cried throughout the entire funeral EXCEPT for when those 2 were talking. And I had no opinion about them prior to the funeral. Both of them jokers were giving alibis and had no intentions of honoring her. And have been very consistent with that every since. With a manager and a bodyguard like those 2, her back was not covered at all.
I never want to refute or accuse anyone that is saying they were abused sexually of lying. But Pat Houston is not an honest woman. She is definitely capitalizing off of Whitney's death and did not mean her any good when she was alive. There's no way that you can convince me otherwise. As for her brother Gary he is one of those men who lets his woman run him and tell him what to do and tell him how to think in other words he's been brainwashed by his own wife! Who knows if she didn't put that shit in his head about being abused! And did anyone catch what they said that Gary "believes" that Whitney MAY have been abused. He didn't say that she had or that she had confided in him that she had been so what's that about? If this were anybody else I would not have any doubt but given the source and this money hungry woman who claimed to love Whitney, I think anyone would be wise to take what she says with a grain of salt. I will not be seeing this movie because I do not want to give Pat and Gary a freaking penny!
Tawana Cooper I have no desire to see it either because of them, but I do want to see some of the exclusive footage. But I can go without hearing Pat's voice. Especially her saying Kris hated her mom. Whatever. They went through things like a lot of mothers and daughters and maybe those, but she sure didn't act like she hated her when she was older. The exact opposite. Gary definitely seems like he allows his wife to do whatever. Including slander the Houston name. Terrible
Cissy, your son confirmed that she did it to him, and Mary Jones (Whitney’s confidante) confirmed that Whitney told her. This is why black children, most children do not tell anyone because it’s hardly believed. I know it’s hard to accept, but be en route to dealing with it.
Why wouldn't Pat and Gary speak with the family especially the mother, about what to expect as far as these allegations before letting the world know first.Their gonna drive this woman (cissy) to her grave.🤔
If Whitney didn't tell her, there was a reason. It doesn't mean it didn't happen. There is always a reason that drives people into addiction. Until you resolve that, you can't kick the habit.
@Debra, we will never know if they told their mom about the abuse beforehand. She might just be embarrassed and trying to save face and not be judged as a bad mom. Also, Dionne is upset about it, too.
It's all about the money people. Wake up. A documentary depicting a normal upbringing just wouldn't attract as much attention. Can't really blame the producers or family members, It's our society that's to blame. RIP Whitney and thank you for sharing your gift with the world!
shit it happen to me! I didn't tell my mom till I was grown & she was dying of cancer at the time! so I know why Whitney didn't tell - & y'all cant say shit if it has never happen to you. so all these comments is bullshit. until that shit storm lands on yo doorstep you don't know what you would do.
People have to realize how was Cissy going to know if at the time her children didn’t tell her and now it comes up 40 years later and two of them gone.How protective they say Cissy was over her family ,don’t y’all think she would’ve whoop some @$$ over her kids
Pat Watson (her real last name) - as stated by her stepson in his open letter - indeed, needs to be investigated. She tries to bestow this soft spoken, clean image on any fool who'd buy her 'inviting-like-charm' persona. There is an entire not-so-great back story on Pat Watson that anyone who supports her manipulated character she smoothly displays, would be shocked to learn. It isn't as easy for Jonathan Houston (Whitney's nephew, a REAL Houston at that ), to come out and boldly say certain things abt why Pat should be investigated because of defamation, or slander claims (without solid proof). So he is smart and clever in how he worded his letter. Please take that into consideration. Bobbi Kristina and Nick Gordon once stated that they had to rescue Pat from an overdose, a story that seems to have been swept under a rug. After what happened to Krissi, Pat rushed to the courts to put that gag order against Nick because she knows he knows the real true tea on her and it's sad that he can't speak and tell his story. Pat was busted and convicted many years ago for distributing illegal drugs, so whose to say she wasn't a supplier who kept Whitney and her family doped up, to manipulate them? Before whitney's cousin died, (Michelle Drinkard, she had said some years ago that Whitney's father (the late John Houston), warned Whitney about Pat in the early 00s, that he found checks written out to Pat from tabloids. This came out of the mouth of Whitney's own cousin and I believed her. As far as that audio goes; Pat can be heard speaking negatively about Whitney and her daughter. Her tone of voice in that revealing audio didn't come from a woman who has compassion and love for Whitney and Bobbi, it came from a vile speaking tone of greed, jealousy, emotionless, remorseless, and anger towards the woman's estate she runs and her deceased daughter. If you can't detect that, then your deaf and delusional. The partial truth has been revealed about Pat and her conniving, bitter ways,. It's only a matter of time when she will meet her faith.
The brother also say that they stayed in many different households not just one. The mother would prefer to deny and lie then believe her own grown adult child. That’s where the sickness stems from and really explains why she struggled so much. It’s not just the molestation is the having to keep a secret that kills people. Just terrible.
They got abused although it's hard to accept it. I still struggle with accepting I wasnt abused by a family member yet there are stories of abuse of a family member abusing others. If it sound like it is!
Whitney Houston's mother should be ashamed of herself. Her son admitted to the abuse, yet she still says it didn't happen. This is so typical. No wonder Whitney turned to drugs. She certainly couldn't have turned to her mother
I believe that it did happen. But why go on about it now when they arent here?? I don’t Believe that Gary would lie about it. But it’s of no consequence now. Moving on
SUGARBEAR911 LOL! Struck a nerve?! Cissy is just like everyone else. Once that church hat comes of Sunday at 4pm, she’s down in the gutter like the rest of us. Having an affair with the pastor, jealous & ugly over Whitney’s success. She allowed so much of what happened. Now we finally understand. That family was too concerned with their ATM being cut off than getting Whitney help.
Whitney mom going to hell when she die.and still deny in her statement says it all she a fake ass Christian.just like Bobby brown sister, Whitney long time friend Robyn said it Whitney mom the devil
As close as Whitney and Robyn were at one point, I can see Robyn and Cissy probably would deny something personal as this. Robyn to this day uses discretion when speaking on Whitney so even if she did tell her this, she would deny it if ever asked. A true friend❤
If they said she did it...she did it damn...it aint rocket science Cissy...stop trying to save face...the idea she molested them is unfathomable...thats like saying that your children are lying...no juat bc they did not come to you and tell you doesn't mean it didn't happen. She had access to them somehow and we all know when you're in the entertainment business with children multiple ppl are asked to help and assist with the children...they for damn sure just didnt stay with 1 person while she traveled. That picture perfect family smoke screen been left the building. Cissy just stop already with the denials...this lady denies every got damn thing that interferes with her image. Everything that those close to her says happened or she told happened are not lying. I wish they'd stop asking her bc she's gonna do this song and dance every time.
Tracy Lands Um your whole comment is irrelevant. You're talking about the drug use. That's not what we're talking about. Secondly, were you there??? Molestation is no joke.... and you act as if it couldn't happen. You're being ignorant if you think that its not possible for it to happen. Everything isn't a story for 💰. Clearly they didn't want to talk about it or it would been came out. My point was if you're children say it happened, it happened and there would be no fathoming about it. Your point was totally irrelevant to that.
Tracy Lands You seem like the type of sucker who wouldn't believe a child if they said they were molested. Get it together bro. You weren't there to say it didn't.
Mrs. Cissy has been through so much. Anytime I hear anything about the late GREAT WHITNEY HOUSTON, I fear that her heart is breaking over and over more so because her life is still under scrutiny. Mrs. Cissy, I 🙏 that you can find peace and solace for your self. God bless you even through these hard times.
Her mother was very controlling and religious, harsh. I personally believe Whitney was lesbian, but her mother have stated that she would never approve of that on oprah.
Gary and Pat seem self serving. Gary had the right to speak for himself not Whitney and none of that should been included from a last minute revelation of an assistant with no time to investigate and with both Dee Dee and whitney dead and unable to corroborate. Pat and Gary keep drama going for money. IMO
Whitney's brother Gary and his wife created that story to make the documentary have a shock factor. I don't believe it happened. Gary is a known drug user (admitted) and Pat strikes me as an opportunist. Whitney never had a chance to get well being surrounded by so many vultures.
Cissy lived vicariously through Whitney, and was a stage mother. The kids were doing drugs in their early teens. Dad was stealing money from Whitney. This family keeps secrets and it’s sick. But yet, Robyn Crawford was the bad influence…
I’m not sure what Gary could gain from this if he was lying. But I also don’t know why he waited until the documentary to divulge this secret. Not shaming him for waiting this long, the timing is interesting. I honestly don’t know what to think about this situation. I just pray that Whitney and Bobbi Kristina’s souls are at peace.
Yes Gary should be ashamed of himself for not speaking with his mother before including that in the film and why are they telling this now when whitney nor dede is here to defend thier self..it’s nothing but a money thing and if the own mom cissy is against it and don’t belive then that says alot
Just because it's "unfathomable" to her doesn't mean it didn't happen. The fact that her kids were doing drugs at age 10 speaks to how unsupervised they were.
So true... she just doesn't want to admit that she failed as a mother to her children.
Nippy Vocals although she can’t change the past the least she could do is be there for her son now and believe him
@@britney2093 true that
@@nippyvocals928 it's not only Cissy's fault. John Houston was the one who stood at home with the kids while Cissy was on tour. He should have known that something was happening to their kids!
Doesn't Gary speak about being offered heroin at the age of 10???
i was molested as a child and nobody knew; and when i tried to tell no one believed me.
BeachMiguel sobe I'm sorry to hear that I hope you stay in peace and happy for the monster he did this to you life will not gonna be easy he or she will be miserable!
I believe you and I’m sorry that happened to you.
Me too!!!
BeachMiguel sobe I was molested when I was going to primary school by my step father and my mom didn’t believe me .....and I’m now 17 .....I never really get over it....
I'm So Sorry no-one believed you. GOD sees everything and GOD will comfort you and erase your pain one day. GODBLESS You 😢🙏❤️
If you watched the film you’ll realize this whole family is a big pile of dysfunction. Whitney was extremely talented and just so happened to become super successful...doesn’t change the fact that she came from a terrible background with terrible people surrounding her.
@kaitlyn Calcote, of course they were dysfunctional. Most of us knew that before this documentary. I will guarantee you Whitney isn’t the only successful person who came from a dysfunctional background. Look at Bobby Brown. He isn’t innocent by know means. You seem very judgmental. I hope I’m wrong because if you look around you, there are many of us who have come from dysfunctional families.
Well said.
I fully believe Whitney came from a abusive /dysfunctional family
My heart goes out to Whitney!! I honestly feel like Whitney's mother is in denial. Like what reason would her brother have to lie. I was Sexually molested by my neighbor at age 10 An it never ever leaves you!! Now I understand why Whitney turned to drugs it breaks my heart because nobody should have to go through this!!! I'm a Survivor thank God!!!
Stephen Christian money lies and money.
Stephen Christian no need to worry about it now they both are dead!! and not coming back
Carlina Randall who are you talking about ?
tbh I don't think you can blame the drug abuse on the sexual abuse. There are are millions of sexual abuse survivors that don't turn to drugs. And there are millions of drug abusers that haven't been sexually abused. Drug addiction is a disease in itself and is hereditary. Obviously the two things intersect for her and I'm certain it played a role in escaping. But had Whitney Houston never been sexually abused, its still likely she would have tried drugs and become addicted.
King Leno Right, that is so what true. It depends on how that person chose to deal with it. My older cousins was molested by their father all 3 of them but 1( because she was a baby)and on top of that my dumb ass auntie don't believe them or leave his ass. but out all the 3 of them that we're molested.... Only one of them got hooked on drugs BAD she sold her body for drugs, she wasn't the best mom they was raise by their grandma. And to this day it's an issue and a on going thing in her life. But the other 2 have no drug issue like her and living happy lives. With that being said your comment is so what true that depends on that person strong will or if they got help/therapy to talk about it.
I wish they'll let Whitney Rest in Peace.
Me too but its much money to be made for that Pat Garland.
Lisette Garvin ,
Right !
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Dana Ccloud Whitney Rest In Peace ! We are happy that movie celebrates her legend
Driss Abderrhamane yes but how many stories are there going to be.
If Gary is admitting it was DeeDee, Cissy has to believe it. That's why people who are molested never speak out because people doubt the truth. It's sad.
Cissy knows it happened but can't admit she failed as a mother. It's always about Cissy whenever she talks about Whitney, and how do I know? Because I know what a good mother is. The folk complimenting Cissy don't know her, but we all saw the demons Whitney and then her daughter BK had to face before they were both murdered for Whitney's Estate and Music Catalogue with royalties rolling in for ever more.
@@mrsmuggins8167 ding ding ding! You nailed it!!
coz his wife looks so evil, she's like manipulating all the post death documentaries and movies... she's like the Bank, she has the money bag! not Cissy... she's adding spices to everything to make it more marketable with exciting twists and turns... her whole face is money
I love Cissy but there’s ALWAYS a reasoning behind someone doing drugs the way nippy did
Why love a woman that left her kids in the hands of an abuser.
Rose davison well rose this was a year ago when I said this and my feelings have DEFINITELY changed since then and now I don’t love cissy like how I said before now have a nice day and keep it pushin😂
My family bears many of the same toxic traits shown in the film. I bleed for Whitney. So sorry that she didn't get the peace and the help that she needed to survive.
Ms Just, don't bleed for her she is free and happy with God. I feel for her momma who has to keep living this situation over and over again.
Truthseeker59 ,
Agree
Whitney deserved a much better family. That includes her brothers, father, and mother.
She has a LOT to answer to. She doesn't appear to take any responsibility for failing to protect her children hiding behind working.
This has to be embarrassing for a grown man to admit this and never mind just now coming forth. I think it's true.
Sissy you are here and you know that it happened God have mercy on your soul
The mother has been covering up for years
And THAT is the reason she started doing drugs in the 80's ... That secret must have haunted her for so many years that she felt she had no other way to turn except the drug route 😫
Let Whitney Houston and Bobbi Kristina rest in peace
Don't you want justice for Whitney and Bobby Kristina.
My heart goes out to . Whitney's mother this is something that happens in a lot of families so please don't feel alone in this kind of situations, much love to the family and have an awesome rest of the day.
Nhan Nguyen first of all thank you for your reply, and I am old school as well and you know how you try to trust people and they go and do something like this thats awful so this family is not the only one, so try to have a good one.
chris thompson first of all thank you for your reply, and you are right because when it comes to money this is how people react ,and then they put on and off at times so as soon as something happens this is a result of what else can take place also people have to answer to . God almighty for what they do . God does not play so enough said for now and love to you and your family.
I cannot believe that Gary did not even speak to his own mother about this in private first before sharing such a devastating and private trauma with the rest of the world ?! Any parent would be shocked and distraught. It confirms that this is just a very dysfunctional family. Patricia and Gary did Whitney and the family wrong. Using private pain to make profits publicly is sick. Michael and Gary simply never knew how to be brothers and protect her and her legacy or her daughter. Kudos to Robyn Crawford for staying out of this movie. Now i know why she didnt want any part of it..
@Caz, well said and oh so right! Robyn truly loved her and has never betrayed her while she was alive and even after her death. Robyn is going to take their secrets to the grave. She is a true friend!
@Tay, you are right. However, I think they told their mom years ago, but she is devastated that he publicly revealed it. I just can't believe that neither one of the kids NEVER said anything to anyone in the family. Also, Dioanne is angry that it is out, too, because she is embarrassed. Black families don't like secrets being told. My mother used to say "don't tell my business." Cissy just doesn't want to be judged as a bad mom, and she doesn't want to feel like she had any part of the reason Whitney used drugs. I do feel bad for Cissy in this situation, it wasn't her fault this happened to her children.
@Iyabinghi, so right. Her mother seems unapproachable. Look at the way she is basically calling her son a liar in the media. Why would he lie about that? It would serve no purpose, people are already going to go see the documentary because they can't get enough of Whitney. You are right she knew about this beforehand. Just like they knew she was in love with Robyn and they were lovers. Her mother couldn't accept the lesbian relationship. So sad...
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I believe pat is no good but regarding Gary not telling his mother, I think if he had she would not have believed him. That movie didn’t show the full side of Whitney’s mother. It is well known that she is mean and was mean to her kids. She has 3 kids at young ages strung out in dope and she saw nothing wrong or does she thinks she did anything wrong. That’s odd to me.
If the sexual abuse occurred, it was something that was probably too embarrassing for her children to talk about then. Children trust family members to do the right thing while they are in their care. They probably did not understand what or why this even happened to them. The #me too movement has allowed men and women to find their voices and begin to heal from these sexual acts of abuse that have lingered for years. It takes strength and courage to come forward to face and speak about these acts. So much hurt and pain. I believe this film will cause many people to face the past where hidden deeds happened and hopefully get the help they need and seek out the resources to help them in the healing process. Whitney Houston was so much more than "the voice." We are learning more about the person who had the voice. We all have our trials and tribulations. She was in the public and the public feels it is owed every detail about your life. She gave her all and throughout her life she still knew that Jesus loved her. She will forever be a treasure God blessed the world with. My prayers are with her family, friends, and all those who cared about her. ❤🌹❤
Bernetta Morton so he was more comfortable telling it on film? Because controversy sales and people believe anything negative?
david mcmannis I don't know his reasons or his timing for his revelation of what he claimed happened to him. I am hoping someone who may be hurt or devastated from abuse will seek the help they need so their healing may begin.
I can understand Whitney’s mother being in shock when told about the molestation but to deny it ever happened tells me she is more worried about her own self image than the molestation of her two children. I read elsewhere that she no longer has anything to do with her son Gary because of him telling his truth. How sad. What a cold hearted woman she seems to be. I think she knows it’s true. Just like she knows it’s true that she left them with relatives many times when they were growing up. I believe she might be the reason all 3 of her kids turned to drugs to cope with life. Cold hearted and seems to lack motherly love. I wonder if she was jealous of Whitney?
U hit the nail on the head. Whitney literally repeated everything with her daughter. Only diffrence was the fame/money. Everything happened sooner. Even the overdose
In Whitney defense she thought by taking her child with her and not leaving her behind was the right thing to do. Unfortunately, it was not, due to her not dealing with her own issues. I do not believe there is a right or wrong way thing could have been handle, but if it was me. I would have taken time off from my career to raise my child. I believe her music was her way to cope but the fame was overloading easy way to get sucked in 😢 Poor Whitney
I agree with the lady. What is the need to speak about it when like she said "they are not here to defend themselves"
Many people leave their kids with relatives but she said Dee Dee wasn't one. She never said she didn't believe. She said it was unfathomable. But it must be hard to hear and she probably feels guilty. Whitney and Dee Dee were into women. Wonder why that happened. Whitney apparently never left her daughter anywhere and took her with her maybe because or what happened to her. Why were all 3 kids on drugs?
Most definitely it's all types of videos out now saying Cissy wasn't even her mother. Can't quite put my finger on it but there is something very strange about her. How could your grade school age kids be on hard drugs and you had no idea GTFOOH.
Is it me or does it seem that Cissy is going out of her way to protect Dee Dee's Memory
She is doing just that?!
I can believe that. That explains all of the turmoil in her life. I feel sorry for Whitney and Gary may she rest in peace. A lot of molestation goes on in families. The parents are ashamed to address it, or do anything about it. It's sinful,and the hunter should be punished.
No one, ever, wants to believe that someone in their family would sexually violate a child- especially their own kin. No loving parent wants to learn that they unknowingly or knowingly put their children in danger of such an experience. However, it happens frequently. One of the most hurtful experiences is having your parent(s) doubt your claims. Maybe Gary didn't speak up, then, because he didn't trust that his mother would back him up. Hmmm. Gary, the sister-in-law, and the assistant...why would they all lie? What do they stand to gain? You said, "If you mess with my children, you mess with me." You've dropped the ball on this one, Ms. Houston; but, it's not too late to pick it back up.
Homophobia from within her own family was Whitney's biggest battle...ask Cissy.
If your child, let alone two of your children claim they were Abused. How do you doubt that claim?????? Do you realise how hard it is for A child to muster the courage to speak off such an Abhorrent Act. To be Abused - Disgusting. To be doubted - Inhumane.
Cissy is in denial and now you know why Whitney Houston couldn’t confide in her!! Look how she responds to her son talking about his sexual abuse! How sad!
More than denial she is properly a sexual predater herself
Just because she didn't know, Doesn't make it any less true.
I cant see Whitney lieing about such a thing especially when her brother has confirmed he too was molested by Dee Dee, pretty sad for Cissy to not accept what her niece has done making her children out to be liars !!!
Perhaps she's known or suspected since their childhood (most mothers of abused know) but they are so steeped in denial. Sometimes the parent's denial is a worse trauma for the abused child than the abuse itself.
Thats why whitney took bobbi on tour with her
Pat and Mary Jones said that Whitney did confide in them about her abuse at Dee Dee’s hand when they were young and innocent little children....so evil to do something like that ....it is sickening.....but we have to forgive or the evil continues in one form or another.
I love Whitney Houston and still til this very day cannot believe she is gone. But one thing I have said from the beginning is there were plenty of kept secrets in this family. For example I own Cissy Houston book and in the part of her book where she states that she didn't know that Whitney used drugs until the day she went to Whitney's house "lies" She wasn't aware of her daughters romance with Robin "lies"... I can keep going...but to say her kids were not molested when one that is alive claiming this happen but still in denial...smh believe it or not situations like this Does lead people to drugs to numb their feelings and past horrors.. poor Whitney it's really starting to make me believe her family might of been her biggest demons. #RIPWhitey&Krissy
So true
What I do not get is that Whitney mentioned Dee Dee a few times over the years in a few different interviews, talking about what a great singer she was & there is even footage of the two of them dancing together at one of Whitney's birthday parties years ago. Why would she dance with her alleged molester?
Stockholm syndrome
Why do women take back their abusers after being abused multiple times ...... Same times when people are in those situations it's really hard to understand why they do things and especially since Dee Dee was her mother's sisters/brothers child ...like that is your family that is all you know even if you know it's wrong .
Always believe the children.
Looks like the mother since whit was divorced should have been allowed to litsen to all the statements about her daughter and been able to determine rather or not it got in the movie.whit would have never allowed this movie.robin was a true friend why she's not speaking.robin was a friend for life.
They may have had all the money but that family was straight low level. Smh Whitney was the classiest thing they had going and they literally destroyed her. If the mother wouldn't have been on the road chasing fame, maybe those kids would have had a chance, but then again the environment they were working with smdh. Those kids didn't come first if they did she would have been at home with them..
Do you say that about working fathers too? Would you say beyonce is a bad mother as an example? Do mothers get all the blame? Very sad if the children were hurt but she probably trusted her family. Maybe she never imagined they'd do something so bad to their own blood
Cissy is in denial.....she is totally ignoring what her son Gary is saying. She says Dee Dee is dead and gone but Gary isn't. So unless he has a history of being a liar why is Cissy refusing to believe him?
A CHOSEN VESSEL Cissy is in complete denial. She's being forced to acknowledge her mistakes and that she wasn't a perfect mother. No one expects her to have been but she's not trying to believe it happened in the care of someone she left the children with.
I agree Gary shared his pain so she is calling him a liar. I know it UGLY. Unfortunately it happens there are dick folks in the world hope they continue to find peace
Denial or nor this should be dealt with privately. Cissy is just making it clear that this film is just a money hungry stunt from a sister in law who has nothing interesting to bring to W's legacy and should take several seats.
How is she in denial? The woman said deedee never babysit her kids, people are quick to accept negativity overv truth! Gary and pat are exploiting Whitney in death for profit
david mcmannis: Chid please.....we're talking the late 60s and 70s she left them with Dionne's mom and Dee Dee lived with her mother.....so just apply some common sense.
when the person is gone she/he is always accused when cannot defend themselves... the brother and his wife making $$$$ out of a story that cannot be confirmed... I don't believe them, it sounds tooooooo opportunistic
It's obvious Sissy (& Dionne) are in denial, or they may have always known all along and are still trying to keep this private and out of the public eye... Yet, the accusations come from her own son Gary, now why would he lie about something like this and blame their deceased aunt?!!!
I'll tell you why! Money and estate!
So she molested two and not the other one! Yeah roght! ( sarcasm ) on top of that it's being told where two other people who were a so called party to it are dead. People have itching ears and goid lie Gary just scratched them.
Furthermore y'all listening to a known drug addict that lost his career over drugs. Oh and a person that was supposed to be protecting Whitney the day she "died"!
C'mon, really!
Wouldn't be surprised if the charges are true, it was clear Whitney suffered from trauma but I can't watch this documentary as it doesn't seem to come from an authentic or healthy place. Don't trust the way Gary and his wife are always seeking attention so not interested. I love Whitney, recognize her journey was difficult. Rest in peace mama.
First of all was it Gary or Michael who claimed the abuse? I watched an interview where I thought Pat said it was Michael.I agree with those who say this is unfair as neither women are here to confirm or deny this. At the very least don't name the abuser. Trying to understand this from Cissy's point of view, I read her book Remembering Whitney. She's lost all her siblings, her parents at a young age, a daughter, a granddaughter, two nieces that I know of and who knows all else. She loves her daughter and her niece and doesn't want to believe such a horrible thing. This is also Dionne's sister and the cousin she loved like a daughter. its not unlike most families when this is revealed. I can't imagine her son not telling her.
She should at least believe Gary he’s still alive, families always try to protect the predator
Why would Gary lie about something like that? I think Ms Sissy May be in denial and embarrassed that the media knows and is questioning her about it. Y’all leave it alone. RIP Whitney!!!!
Pip Smith What does what mean?
Pip Smith I don’t know! This got me puzzled!!
Why did Kevin (the movie director) say 'Gary Garland Houston told him he had been molested by a woman in the family & he thought Whitney may have been too ... when I hear Whitney never spoke to Gary personally about it, only to Mary Jones)???
And why is thia latest horrific discovery something the family would want to make into a movie off Whitney's personal sscrets??? Are they that broke & desparate that they have sell Whitney's personal tragedies to make a dollar now??? Why don't you all get a job, or utilize your music gifts ,& talents???
No wonder Whitney didn't tell her own family, her mother would not have believed her and her own blood betrayed her by abusing her. In light of this information, her addiction is not only understandable but statistically likely. She should be remembered for the formidable talent that she was and her faults and flaws only add to her humanity and I empathize with her.
Why do people never believe the abused? The children are always liars first. What is that about?
❤️ R.I.P❤️ Whitney Housten❤️❤️❤️❤️
Let her be in peace dam
Tanya Rucker we need to know the truth !
Its something about the mother that just does noy sit right with me and idk what it is but something is not right.
Let Whitney and Dee Dee's memories rest in peace with pleasant thoughts of their mutual successes as opposed to salacious gossip Ms Cissy need not bother to defend nor comment.
Bro lot of people saying it's not true in the comments because Whitney didn't mention it,but put ur self in her place,I u a man or woman was molested by the same sex would u talk or keep it too ur self
Molestation is molestation. Don’t see why the gender is relevant? There should be no shame in coming forward in any case.
@@TTUploads yeah that's true, but it's hard for someone who is molested by the same sex, because the shame is much more intense and some people question if their something about them which attach the same sex
And why is this anyone's business? Seriously? Even if it is true? What are you going to do about it? How is broadcasting this story helping any of these people?
So why was Whitney saying she loved her "Auntie Dee Dee" even though they were cousins that's what she called her. There's public videos of Whitney talking about Dee Dee.
I haven’t seen the film yet, so I can’t really say what was discussed in the film. So far though, from what I’ve heard, it seems like they’re both (the director of the film and Garry) said it was a woman who supposedly molested them. It seems like it is almost speculation as to whether it was DD or not to? That’s what I’m guessing, but then again, I didn’t see the film, so I can’t say for sure if they actually said it was DD. I know in Whitney‘s interview with Oprah in 2009, she made it seem like she and DD. were very close. As far as Whitney’s mother goes, I do find it a little suspicious that they told her just a few days before the movie was to be released. Had they told her before that, she probably would have advocated for shelving this movie. At least until they sorted things out, or she may have wanted that part edit it out. You have to admit, that does look a little sketchy. Like she said, Whitney is not here to confirm or deny these allegations, and if she never knew about it before, and she knows who she placed in the care of her children, if she interest of those people in her children’s care, she may not have known if they may have put the care in someone else’s Else while they went out and did whatever. I think something happened, yes, but I also think part of the drugs was because they were being teenage kids, and as she writes in her book, whatever Whitney‘s brothers did, Whitney wanted to do. Director of the film also guess that Whitney may have been sexually abused because and one interview when asked what made her angry she said that child abuse makes her angry. To most people, child-abuse would make anyone angry. I guess, that’s what lead him on the path to finding out that she was supposedly molested. And if she’s just finding out now, I can’t imagine the horror, chalk, and devastation she must feel. She’s already lost her daughter and her granddaughter, now she has to deal with this new revelation? And where is Mikal fit into all of this?
I don't care for bobby whatsoever as I believe Whitney marrying him triggered her downfall but it's crazy how her family was always quick to throw all of the blame on him for how she turned out when they were obviously no better. I feel like her mother failed her as a parent
While Cissy was singing on tour with Aretha Franklin, Elvis Presley & others...who did she leave her children with, the dad? (He could have been doing his own thing and paid Dee Dee, the older cousin to watch the kids! Or Dee Dee could have been around the same people, or in the same place), where her Whitney & Gary were being babysitted, especially if it was with a family! member)!!!
This is one of the prices you pay for stardom, not being there to see your
childtem growing up with other family members you think you know & trust!!!
Virginia Coleman Dee Dee was just as booked and busy as Cissy if not more booked and busier than than Cissy - that’s why Dee Dee could have never baby sat the kids.
I really wish they would let Whitney rest in peace . They’re stilling working her and cashing in smh
Thats the thing with the black community, our elders are so often trying to sweep traumatic experiences that happened to us under the rug to protect the family image🤦🏾and im sick of it.
Why did this man write this without mother permission. He did not check clarity
That's that old school mentality they swept a lot of things that psychology messed with a lot of people head back then
I’m not gonna say it’s not true, but Pat and Gary are not the type people I wouldn’t put using this as a hooker to get people to watch either. It’s really the only “new” piece of information. Otherwise there’s no need to see the doc. I went and I literally have heard everything else already right here on TH-cam. Pat and Gary GARLAND are doing whatever they can to financially benefit from Whitney’s legacy smh. First in life, now in death.
TreeABaby1 We don't know the real truth, but I agree with you completely about those 2. Since Whitney's funeral, I have been looking at them like wth. Pat's "eulogy" sounded like an alibi and was hardly respectful to Whitney. Her jealousy towards her is overwhelming; therefore, I try to avoid anything with her in it. All about the money with her and him. Disgusting.
T Mason now I gotta go listen to the eulogy. But Pat definitely gives me the worst vibes any time I hear her speak on Whitney
TreeABaby1 Listen to Pat Garland and Ray, her overpaid security guard of a brother. I cried throughout the entire funeral EXCEPT for when those 2 were talking. And I had no opinion about them prior to the funeral. Both of them jokers were giving alibis and had no intentions of honoring her. And have been very consistent with that every since. With a manager and a bodyguard like those 2, her back was not covered at all.
I never want to refute or accuse anyone that is saying they were abused sexually of lying. But Pat Houston is not an honest woman. She is definitely capitalizing off of Whitney's death and did not mean her any good when she was alive. There's no way that you can convince me otherwise. As for her brother Gary he is one of those men who lets his woman run him and tell him what to do and tell him how to think in other words he's been brainwashed by his own wife! Who knows if she didn't put that shit in his head about being abused! And did anyone catch what they said that Gary "believes" that Whitney MAY have been abused. He didn't say that she had or that she had confided in him that she had been so what's that about? If this were anybody else I would not have any doubt but given the source and this money hungry woman who claimed to love Whitney, I think anyone would be wise to take what she says with a grain of salt. I will not be seeing this movie because I do not want to give Pat and Gary a freaking penny!
Tawana Cooper I have no desire to see it either because of them, but I do want to see some of the exclusive footage. But I can go without hearing Pat's voice. Especially her saying Kris hated her mom. Whatever. They went through things like a lot of mothers and daughters and maybe those, but she sure didn't act like she hated her when she was older. The exact opposite. Gary definitely seems like he allows his wife to do whatever. Including slander the Houston name. Terrible
Cissy, your son confirmed that she did it to him, and Mary Jones (Whitney’s confidante) confirmed that Whitney told her. This is why black children, most children do not tell anyone because it’s hardly believed. I know it’s hard to accept, but be en route to dealing with it.
Prophets Of Rock TV Now you see why they are all screwed up.
Yes
Why wouldn't Pat and Gary speak with the family especially the mother, about what to expect as far as these allegations before letting the world know first.Their gonna drive this woman (cissy) to her grave.🤔
debra hill Pat said she told Cissy. I think they are all liars
Leslie Boozer yes.. I heard she told her after film was to be premiered 🤔
And that is probably true. Pat was on sway and said she told her before but we all know how that goes.
If Whitney didn't tell her, there was a reason. It doesn't mean it didn't happen. There is always a reason that drives people into addiction. Until you resolve that, you can't kick the habit.
@Debra, we will never know if they told their mom about the abuse beforehand. She might just be embarrassed and trying to save face and not be judged as a bad mom. Also, Dionne is upset about it, too.
It's all about the money people. Wake up. A documentary depicting a normal upbringing just wouldn't attract as much attention. Can't really blame the producers or family members, It's our society that's to blame. RIP Whitney and thank you for sharing your gift with the world!
How about believing your living son?
Gary and Micheal are still alive to confirm smh
shit it happen to me! I didn't tell my mom till I was grown & she was dying of cancer at the time! so I know why Whitney didn't tell - & y'all cant say shit if it has never happen to you. so all these comments is bullshit. until that shit storm lands on yo doorstep you don't know what you would do.
Dee Dee died in 2008 Dionne is still alive GMA
Whitney's mom can't take much more. This is so personal for that old woman.
She's still hanging around years later
People have to realize how was Cissy going to know if at the time her children didn’t tell her and now it comes up 40 years later and two of them gone.How protective they say Cissy was over her family ,don’t y’all think she would’ve whoop some @$$ over her kids
how is Cissy and Dionne denying it if Gary out of his own mouth is saying it happened to him 🤔
Pat Watson (her real last name) - as stated by her stepson in his open letter - indeed, needs to be investigated. She tries to bestow this soft spoken, clean image on any fool who'd buy her 'inviting-like-charm' persona. There is an entire not-so-great back story on Pat Watson that anyone who supports her manipulated character she smoothly displays, would be shocked to learn.
It isn't as easy for Jonathan Houston (Whitney's nephew, a REAL Houston at that ), to come out and boldly say certain things abt why Pat should be investigated because of defamation, or slander claims (without solid proof). So he is smart and clever in how he worded his letter. Please take that into consideration.
Bobbi Kristina and Nick Gordon once stated that they had to rescue Pat from an overdose, a story that seems to have been swept under a rug. After what happened to Krissi, Pat rushed to the courts to put that gag order against Nick because she knows he knows the real true tea on her and it's sad that he can't speak and tell his story. Pat was busted and convicted many years ago for distributing illegal drugs, so whose to say she wasn't a supplier who kept Whitney and her family doped up, to manipulate them? Before whitney's cousin died, (Michelle Drinkard, she had said some years ago that Whitney's father (the late John Houston), warned Whitney about Pat in the early 00s, that he found checks written out to Pat from tabloids.
This came out of the mouth of Whitney's own cousin and I believed her. As far as that audio goes; Pat can be heard speaking negatively about Whitney and her daughter. Her tone of voice in that revealing audio didn't come from a woman who has compassion and love for Whitney and Bobbi, it came from a vile speaking tone of greed, jealousy, emotionless, remorseless, and anger towards the woman's estate she runs and her deceased daughter. If you can't detect that, then your deaf and delusional. The partial truth has been revealed about Pat and her conniving, bitter ways,. It's only a matter of time when she will meet her faith.
The brother also say that they stayed in many different households not just one. The mother would prefer to deny and lie then believe her own grown adult child. That’s where the sickness stems from and really explains why she struggled so much. It’s not just the molestation is the having to keep a secret that kills people. Just terrible.
They got abused although it's hard to accept it. I still struggle with accepting I wasnt abused by a family member yet there are stories of abuse of a family member abusing others. If it sound like it is!
(Sidenote) Robin looking stunning in that dress..
Miss you Whitney 😶
Pat Houston Is Pure Low Down !
Cnat not stand pat she aint family
If Pat is low out. Put her down properly please there is A Almighty God.
Whitney Houston's mother should be ashamed of herself.
Her son admitted to the abuse, yet she still says it didn't happen. This is so typical. No wonder Whitney turned to drugs. She certainly couldn't have turned to her mother
I believe that it did happen. But why go on about it now when they arent here?? I don’t Believe that Gary would lie about it. But it’s of no consequence now. Moving on
Pat Houston is vile
Cissy “The Saint” Houston is anything but. Go see the documentary.
BDiaz Negative Bitch! Your Typical! Saint? Who said she was a Saint or a devil? What positives did you see in the movie? Your Another Negative Bitch!
SUGARBEAR911 LOL! Struck a nerve?! Cissy is just like everyone else. Once that church hat comes of Sunday at 4pm, she’s down in the gutter like the rest of us. Having an affair with the pastor, jealous & ugly over Whitney’s success. She allowed so much of what happened. Now we finally understand. That family was too concerned with their ATM being cut off than getting Whitney help.
Whitney mom going to hell when she die.and still deny in her statement says it all she a fake ass Christian.just like Bobby brown sister, Whitney long time friend Robyn said it Whitney mom the devil
Her son just told her this family is dysfunctional that’s why so much addiction
All of that older generation is all quite stoic
Robyn said in her book this was a lie and never happened. Whitney would have told her of all people.
As close as Whitney and Robyn were at one point, I can see Robyn and Cissy probably would deny something personal as this. Robyn to this day uses discretion when speaking on Whitney so even if she did tell her this, she would deny it if ever asked. A true friend❤
If they said she did it...she did it damn...it aint rocket science Cissy...stop trying to save face...the idea she molested them is unfathomable...thats like saying that your children are lying...no juat bc they did not come to you and tell you doesn't mean it didn't happen. She had access to them somehow and we all know when you're in the entertainment business with children multiple ppl are asked to help and assist with the children...they for damn sure just didnt stay with 1 person while she traveled. That picture perfect family smoke screen been left the building. Cissy just stop already with the denials...this lady denies every got damn thing that interferes with her image. Everything that those close to her says happened or she told happened are not lying. I wish they'd stop asking her bc she's gonna do this song and dance every time.
Tracy Lands Um your whole comment is irrelevant. You're talking about the drug use. That's not what we're talking about. Secondly, were you there??? Molestation is no joke.... and you act as if it couldn't happen. You're being ignorant if you think that its not possible for it to happen. Everything isn't a story for 💰. Clearly they didn't want to talk about it or it would been came out. My point was if you're children say it happened, it happened and there would be no fathoming about it. Your point was totally irrelevant to that.
Tracy Lands You seem like the type of sucker who wouldn't believe a child if they said they were molested. Get it together bro. You weren't there to say it didn't.
The brother Gary said it too
So basically Cissy don't believe her son and he is a grown man! What does he have to gain by lying after all these years? Nothing!
No wonder both of them turned to drugs
In the name of the Almighty God of all creation if Pat is making up so many stories she need to be lay to rest. Wickedness nor the wicked is no good.
Humiliation Ritual in FULL effect. So sad
Mrs. Cissy has been through so much. Anytime I hear anything about the late GREAT WHITNEY HOUSTON, I fear that her heart is breaking over and over more so because her life is still under scrutiny. Mrs. Cissy, I 🙏 that you can find peace and solace for your self. God bless you even through these hard times.
Her mother was very controlling and religious, harsh. I personally believe Whitney was lesbian, but her mother have stated that she would never approve of that on oprah.
Parents listen to your children😢😢
Gary and Pat seem self serving. Gary had the right to speak for himself not Whitney and none of that should been included from a last minute revelation of an assistant with no time to investigate and with both Dee Dee and whitney dead and unable to corroborate. Pat and Gary keep drama going for money. IMO
IF WHITNEY HOUSTONS , SAY SHE WAS ABUSE BY A FRIEND , DID HER NEED TO TRUST HER ,
Whitney's brother Gary and his wife created that story to make the documentary have a shock factor. I don't believe it happened. Gary is a known drug user (admitted) and Pat strikes me as an opportunist. Whitney never had a chance to get well being surrounded by so many vultures.
Cissy lived vicariously through Whitney, and was a stage mother. The kids were doing drugs in their early teens. Dad was stealing money from Whitney. This family keeps secrets and it’s sick. But yet, Robyn Crawford was the bad influence…
I’m not sure what Gary could gain from this if he was lying. But I also don’t know why he waited until the documentary to divulge this secret. Not shaming him for waiting this long, the timing is interesting. I honestly don’t know what to think about this situation. I just pray that Whitney and Bobbi Kristina’s souls are at peace.
Didn’t the family sign off on the film though?
So sad😢
This is sad 😢
Yes Gary should be ashamed of himself for not speaking with his mother before including that in the film and why are they telling this now when whitney nor dede is here to defend thier self..it’s nothing but a money thing and if the own mom cissy is against it and don’t belive then that says alot