Removing rust from a fuel tank! Diesel tank setup with Fill rite pump.
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- I remove rust from a diesel tank that was given to me by a viewer and friend. I also install a fill rite pump and filter kit on the tank.
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Looks great andrew.glad you could use it !!
Thank you again for the generous donation of the tank!
Get some old worn out semi mud flaps, cut off bad parts and then piece them together good pieces for a "floor" for the storage area. Help prevent scratching and rattle of anything metal places in that area when driving :)
Put a cork in the end of your hose, for some reason bugs and spiders like to make a home in them then they go in your tank.
Put a 1/4 turn valve where the hose attaches to the nozzle so you can turn it off when done pumping.
Perfect solution! Thanks
Or go to TSC and buy a manual fuel nozzle.
Nice setup.
Looks awesome! The other hole in the top of the pump is to hold the end of the hose.
Thanks, I'll see if it fits right in.
Andrew, I know what you are talking about on the algae in diesel. It got so bad on my 4520 that it stopped up my suction line on the tank.
I had to remove the tank to flush it out. I replaced the sending unit while I had it off. I treated my tractor fuel tank with BioClean and now keep BioCide in my fuel drum. I buy the chemicals at autozone. I wish I could attach a picture of the algae slim I pulled out of the tank. I’ll email it to you.
I have a 55 gallon drum at my shop that I keep diesel in. When I empty it, I put it in the truck and run by to get off road in it. I just emptied the drum but think I might just buy a tank full at a time as prices are dropping.
I enjoyed your video on the tank cleaning and restoration.
BTW, I used to make my own diesel about 15 years ago. That was before anyone knew what biodiesel was. It was costing me about 65 cents a gallon but the used cooking oil was free. I still have the reactor tank I built then but haven’t made any in a decade. It may be time to start it up again.
My suction line and my father's has plugged several times 😡
Nice job on the tank, hope Tiffany is doing better.
She's doing much better today.
Another awesome video Andrew, and thank you to Casey for that sweet donation.
The tank surely went to the right person, YT community proving to make good friends:)))
Wow that was Amazing to see how that vinegar cleaned out that tank
I was impressed
That fuel tank will come in really handy for you guys. I am really happy for you.
Nice job, as always. I love watching your visions come to life.
Thank you for watching
Love the tank and the cargo space for it. Thanks for the videos.
Thank you for watching
Great job restoring that tank. I refurbished a old ford tractor tank about 20 years ago, and found a product that actually lines the inside. The old tractor tank had several rust holes. At that time, there was not alot of quality replacement tanks to choose from so I went the liner route. Have not had one bit of problems since, and had actually forgotten about it. Just a FYI, if you ever notice rust creeping back in that tank. Cannot think of the name of the product, seems like I bought from a atv repair site. This stuff goes in like paint. There are some calculations to be determined for how Much goes in. Once in rotate the tank so that it lines the inside, set up the fan system, and it cures like plastic. On another note, I have a 50 gallon square tank, I use for diesel with a fill rite rotary pump. After a while, pressure that builds up in the tank starting pushing fuel through the pump. I have the same pressure relief cap that you have as well. All that being said, I installed a ball valve after the filter to shut off the flow. I actually lost about 5 gallons of fuel before I realized what was going on. Just my two cents worth. Well maybe a nickels worth with the current inflation. Lol. Keep up the good projects, I really enjoy your videos. Good, clean, interesting and educational entertainment.
Im actually thinking a 1/4 turn valve right before the spout will be a perfect solution for cutting off any dripping fuel. Thanks for watching
Hi, Andrew! You are coming up with all sorts of interesting projects. I like your surprise projects. Keep them coming.
Thank you very much
Looks great Andrew. That tank is going to be a game changer.
Yes it is!
Nice!!
Great video! Very informative and interesting! Hard at work as usual!
Thank you for watching
Nice job!
Thanks
Might consider a rubber mat on the bottom of your new tool storage.
Great job
Thanks
That's so stinking awesome Andrew. I love how you made it your own with the basket. 👍👍
Thanks
quickly becoming one of my favorite channels. you were made to do this partner.
Truly appreciate your support.
GREAT VIDEO. Hope Tiffany is doing better. Stay safe and GOD BLESS
She's much better today! Thanks
Congratulations on your new fuel station. It should help out tremendously. I hope Tiffany is feeling better.
She's doing much better today, thanks for asking.
Hi Andrew, you did and amazing job refurbished and customizing the tank. You can you anything.👍Take care.
Thank you
Awesome project Andrew! That's definitely going to come in handy. It's the small things in life lol. A 1/4 turn ball value downstream of the filter should settle that for ya. Hope Tiffany gets to feeling better soon.
I like that valve idea, nice and simple.
You do great work young man! Hope the chicks, wife and you are doing well!!!
Both are very well today.
I hope Tiffany is feeling better. Let her know I'm thinking of her!
She's doing much better! Thak you!
Hi Andrew very interesting project. The fuel tank restore should really help out for convieniance. 🌞🇨🇦
It's going to make a big difference for convenience.
Great video sir. I have a similar tank I’m trying to reuse and I’m going to follow your steps. I really liked your idea with the wire mesh to create additional storage. A piece of rubber matting would be a good idea to install in between the bed and the back of the tank to eliminate from rubbering the paint off and creating rust again.
Now you can run around filling up the diesel generators that are powering the Electric Vehicle Chargers!
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That is an awesome set up Andrew. I do like the idea of putting fork slots/pockets on the tank too
I need to find some c channel or bar stock.
@@TKCL I believe we use 3x5 tube .125 wall or maybe.25 wall. But if you can get tube it works great for the forks
A bucket of smooth people to "Media blast" the tank will knock the residue out.
Nice👍🎈
Ohhh, one more thing, stabil makes a diesel stabilizer. Supposed to help with the algae.
Thanks
Yup. Saves time, no back and forth, no dripping diesel.
Looks great! Especially for free! Now just need some good friends with some free diesel! Lol
No kidding!
Nice tank, so much better than the 5 gallon cans. Nice job saving the flammable sticker, too bad it should come off as you are not hauling anything flammable, diesel is a combustible. When I set up my bulk tank I ordered some stickers (from Amazon of course) with "DYED OFF-ROAD DIESEL". Even though I have a gas truck I wanted the tank clearly labeled. I purchased the crank version of that same pump, it had a place on the side to 'hang up' the hose when not using it.
I consider the crank version, for some reason I've always wanted this model.
Surprised the Pump did not come with a Hose hanger ?
I was gonna comment on leaving the Hose lying in the Cage and see the Fuel come running out as a Syphon. Cause the Nozzle is below the level of the fuel in the Tank.
Thanks Andrew.
Mike M.
I see a hole in the pump, I'm going to see if it's for the hose. Otherwise a 1/4 turn valve is going on.
So cool Andrew, Fire and Fuel stations!!!
The sky’s the limit, what’s next???
Let's not mix the two! 🤣
@@TKCL 😂🤣
I hope Tiffany is feeling better. ❤️
She's doing much better today.
You will want to keep the tank full to prevent condisation this is what causes rust in tanks.
Also add a water seperater filter to keep water out of you equipment.
Also add some howes diesel traetmemt to your fidl to help stop alge growth.
honestley I would put in a rust converter when done and they make a tank coating that makes a type of plastic coating on inside so it never rusts again. Im sorry just not in place to find it and post the product....... Oh BTW that small icemaker is really good! this icemaker will really shine camping!
Great to hear, I'm testing a popular requested nugget ice maker right now. Took me a year to get my hands on one.
you can do like i do to my tanks is put a inline shut off valve on the end near the end of the fill line
That's exactly what I plan to do, a 1/4 turn valve.
That tank looks like it will work quite well for you, if the extra fuel in the hose is a problem you a pump nozzle like a gas station have.
Or cut off valve 😉
There is usually a spot on the pump housing to store the nozzle. It keeps dirt out and prevents fuel leaks in truck bed.
I found it today 😬
Hey Andrew great video brother , I used vinegar to clean the rust out of an old ATV gas tank and I watched a video, they said when your done to mix up some baking soda and water to fully get the vinegar out , hope that helps man have a good one
Take care!
you might want to put a small gate at the bottom of your rack to clean it out if it gets debris in it , my uncle made us a tank like yours (he was a stainless steel welder) he put a pair of lifting loops on the back of the upright area . the FillRite pumps are great we have one that is over 20 years old only replaced hose and filters on it but upgraded to an electric about 10 years ago to fill our big 4x4 tractors. our tank holds about 145 gal or so also an ouch when we fill up our tanks :)
Yikes! I hate to deal with that fuel bill.
I recommend that you put a lock on the handle and put a bungee strap around that bucket as well. Great job on the tank! I have a 50 gallon transfer tank with the same [ump bu my handle turns rather than pumps.
I looked at that model too, for some reason I always wanted this one.
You could use the camera on the wire to get a really good look in the tank. You are really starting to put out some fun interesting videos. Keep them coming loving it.
I hope Tiffany is feeling better God bless the both of you going through this rough time
I didn't even think about using the camera 🤦. She's doing much better today.
Andrew, search your area for a fuel depot company. Its those types of small fuel companies that deliver fuel around the city in the pump trucks. You should be able to get offroad diesel directly from them cheaper than those stations like you went to. Here we save around .70 cents sometimes more for off-road and if you catch it when diesel is cheap i would explore getting a larger tank double wall. We got one from Ebay a few years ago i think its 900 gallons for $700 delivered. We then got it filled and keep topping it off with fresh off-road every 100 gallons we use. Its inside a small 12x20 metal building away from everything just incase it goes boom
Thank you for the information
HI THERE great job john
i would recommend an automatic nozzle . it should work fine . i have put several on hand pump tanks . and try to find a cap for any nozzle tip . keeps bugs out .
I agree! Or as someone mentioned a 1/4 turn valve right before the spout.
With algae in your fuel it probably has water in it as well. You should buy from a different source. Also treat your fuel with a biocide to eliminate the algae.
You'll really like the tank instead of the 5 gallon cans.
Doesn't matter, I've seen it my entire life here no matter who I buy from.
They do make a liquid liner for fuel and gas tanks that works great.
Cant rember the name of it but i got it from amazon for a couple of tanks o have.
You can put a diesel additive to help with your algae problem,hot shots has great products
Thanks
Good evening Andrew, hope that the 2 of you are doing well. With the wire you installed on the tank, you can easily use bungee cords to help keep things in place. Most of the fuel pumps like you installed usually comes with a built in nozzle holder. I couldn't see very well but I think that you might have one but I couldn't tell. On your pump on the back side facing the back of your truck there is a hole and if the nozzle fits into it the hole the nozzle should catch and stay in place. They built them this way so you won't have to put the nozzle into a bucket like you did and have any left over gas come out and have the nozzle lying in it. Most have a built in holder for a nozzle. If by chance yours does not, you may want to check to see the they make one that you can attach so your nozzle isn't lying in diesel. Glad that the chick's are doing well and that you are now a new chick father/ tiffany a new chick mother. Take care, God bless
I stand corrected, I didn't realize when watching the video that you bought a drum pump so it won't have anywhere to put the nozzle as you know. Put some type of hook with a locking device so you don't have to keep it in a bucket.
There actually is a odd hole in the pump, I'm going to see if by chance it holds the nozzle.
Another awesome project completed. Wonder if you could reverse the handle and have it pointed downward so it would be easier to pump when standing on the ground. In any case, that’s a wonderful addition your operation around the farm.
I used to work at a hospital and we had 7 emergency generators that ran on diesel and we had to have our fuel ‘polished’ every 6 months to keep the algae from becoming an issue. We were required to do a 30 minute monthly full load test on all 7 each month and had to be able to run a minimum of 68 hours continuously without refueling in an emergency situation such as a natural disaster. A company came in with a huge truck and would suck up the fuel from the tanks and ran it through a series of filters before placing it back into the holding tanks. Was an interesting process. When dealing with mission critical back up systems, the fuel had to be perfect.
I completely understand the need for a perfect operating system in a place like that.
The use of biodiesel is the reason you had to do that. Even though you don't buy biodiesel other people have and the trucks and pipelines are contaminated with it. Algae was very rare prior to biodiesel and now it is very common. I worked at a hospital and tanks that had not been refilled for years were fine. Biodiesel comes out and we had to install fuel polishing systems. Got either globs of snot or coffee grounds (rust).
@@brianhillis3701 it was a requirement in order to maintain our accreditation as well as a state requirement due to our designation of a level 2 trauma center. Our storage tanks were in ground tanks so we were more concerned with water than algae. You haven’t lived until you’ve experienced a critical grid power failure and then experience a critical generator failure in the middle of it. Doctors don’t take kindly to loosing all electricity during surgeries. Even though all equipment has battery back ups, it’s a very unique situation to be in.
@@Tripring2000 I managed over a hundred tanks and generators at a very large medical center with multiple BSL3s and a nuclear reactor. I know exactly what you are talking about. Both above ground and below ground tanks nowadays have algae in them mostly confined to the water oil interface. Polishing systems are needed on most of them and occasional cleaning. Algacides can work if the tank has been cleaned recently. Keeping water out is a key. Try putting socks in to remove the water or pump it out with something that goes to the bottom of the tank the fill tube is too high to be effective. Usually a 55 gallon drum is big enough. Fill it, let it set a couple of days and drain the water out until you see oil. Pour the remaining oil into the tank it came from. Don't contaminate other tanks. You should do this whenever you get over a quarter inch of water in the tank.
Cut you a scrap piece of expanded meta to fit in the bottom of a 5gsllon bucket put blocks under the metal. That way your hose won't sit in any fuel that leaks out of the hose
Sure can! 😉
Figuered you would use the bore scope for inspection. Looks good, yup rubber mat would really help. Maybe the open diamond shape not to hold water and rust. Hope Tiffany is doing OK.
I'm not even going to lie, I completely forgot about my borascope. 🤦 Tiffany is doing well
Very nice tank and additions Andrew! Nice of Casey to give it to you! Do you use any additives in your diesel?
I'm thinking about adding some seafoam in the winter time for storage. Other than that I turn it over frequently in the summer.
They make these pumps right here in America.
Great quality from what I understand!
like the video. now you can tank your gas. does your tractor have to have d e f. be bless and safe and love.
theres a fuel savings app i use to get fuel for my duece and a half it saves money at the pump on road deisel and off road diesel if you only buy at truck stops its called mudflap i save .35 a gallon at the truck stop i use no limite on the ammount you can buy
Surprised to see you not using your new tool, the borescope to view the tank’s inside
I just flat out forgot about it.
My "L" Tank holds 105 gals. Nice having a tank like this to store fuel on the farm. No more handling plastic jugs with those pesky "safety" valves.
It's so nice having it.
If you're ever concerned about water in your diesel I highly recommend using Diesel Force fuel additive. Search them, they've got a few videos out there.
Thanks
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OMG, this is where I shine ! A lot can go wrong with your fuel tank, but they are easy fixes, for one” I wouldn’t leave the fuel nozzle below the fuel level in the tank,,, liquid flows downhill, I would hate to see you lose $300 worth of fuel (siphon effect) can take place in any situation, and you will always fight with moisture because it will get in and fuel is lighter than water, so water will sink to the bottom so do some science, thank goodness for filters 😁
I'll look for a hose hanger or cap for the end of the nozzle.
@@TKCL yep, you still have to keep the rain out, but I’m sure you’ll come up with a good solution
Welding the wire. Flat bar ok at top but why weld wire bottom to dank? I would approach it from angle iron top and bottom so wire wolds to frame of angle iron. Horizontal supports at bends out of angle iron too. I just think wire weld to bottom going to give way vs welded to the angle iron makes more contact with the wire
It may, I was going to weld flat bar on the bottom. If I see any issues, I'll address it.
Andrew did you ever consider welding some fork pockets on the bottom of the tank. You wouldn’t need the 4x4 underneath the tank and you would not have the risk of the tank sliding off the forks of your tractor when the tank is full.
That's a good idea
Could you put a lockable pump nozzle (with auto cutoff) on the end that would cut the fuel at the end of the hose? You could lock it open, fill up and it would cut itself off. You’d have some fuel still in the hose though.
You could, but someone mentioned a 1/4 turn valve right before the spout, I think that's the perfect solution.
Is that bucket going to catch rain water? Think the nozzle should be facing down so no water enters the hose. Maybe hook it to the tank into a short pipe to cover the nozzle.
Won't be a problem, that truck is always under a barn. If driving in the rain I can dump the bucket or hose. The hose end will never be higher than the pump.
I thought for sure you were going to pull out the borescope to examine the tank.
I didn't even think about it, really didn't 🤦
@@TKCL It's ok, I'm just a little disappointed, but at least I know you're human now. 😆
Great job Andrew. I was wondering did you always knew how to weld or did you take a class or did you have a welding job?, I was curious
Self taught, bought a stick welder about 12-15 years ago and just started learning.
Could have used your phone camera gizmo to look inside the tank.
No kidding, I completely forgot about having that. 🤦
Vinegar helps, If you really want to get rid of all the rust I believe it’s muriatic acid that eats the rust. A lot of people restoring vintage parts with rust will use that because it does need the metal just the rust.
One thing I would do first is put a bunch of gravel in there and strap it down to those forks and go bounce around for a while and scrub and chip off some of the rust and flakes, then dump that out and muriatic acid is what gets rid of rust. Then you seal the tank. Motorcycle guys do it all the time, it’s easier in a little tank but the rust isn’t really horrible as long as you get all the flakes out of it. Muriatic acid will get rid of the rust but not the big flakes and the gummy junk in there.
In a car or motorcycle once you get the tank physically cleaned you can use the vinegar or the muriatic acid and once it’s clean you let it dry out completely and then you pour a liquid in there that basically treats the metal or lines it and it sort of seals the metal off and that liner is made for gas tanks.
Diesel is pretty forgiving. If you watch diesel Creek some of the tanks he has are horrible and he just throws gravel in there and breaks the chips out and lets the filter handle the rest of it. Once the diesel is in there even on bare metal it won’t be too bad.
Another cool option are those propane tanks you make the fire pits out of. You could weld some legs and fittings on that make a pretty cool tank. You could throw this on the trailer and fill it up and make a couple of runs or just every now and again when you go to the gas station is have several hundred gallons stored up. Diesel last a long time, much longer than gasoline. There are also some additives you can put in there that will absorb the water
I like the mesh he put around there, that was a pretty cool idea. I would weld a couple of little tiedowns on there. For luggage racks at Harbor freight and almost anywhere that sells automotive accessories you can buy little mesh nets that are kind of like bungee cords but they have one that’s made for those little receiver hitch carriers that is about the same size and if you just welded a few little tabs with holes on there it would keep stuff from bouncing out of that tool basket area when you’re driving and keep stuff from blowing around but it’s almost exactly that size it’s just a net made out of bungee cord with little hooks on it but that might be cool on there as well
I was planning on building one out of a propane tank, but it's hard to beat free.
@@TKCL you need both, you get a huge propane tank and use this one because the 700 gallon tanks too heavy for your truck to haul all that gas at once. 😂
That’s where my mind goes anyway, use that to fill up at the gas station and then pump it into the big tank so you’re not driving around with all that weight. Either way this one works and it’s pretty awesome.
Everything was great except the fuel bill!
Yep and now it's time to fuel up again 😔
The problem with storing fuel, especially diesel is that you have to let the tanks breathe and that usually introduces water into the system. I’m almost wondering if you could build a box around the breather part and just fill it with a bunch of that silica gel and I wonder how long that would last and if that would dry the system out. I think it was you who is using a filter that was supposed to dry the air for compressors that was sort of like that it was filled with silica. I wonder if you just put something like that in line to the breather on the tank if that would be enough to keep humidity out of the tank. 🤔
Use Fresh Step kitty litter crystals . it is silica gel on the cheap. It won't change color, but you can bake the moisture out of it and reuse it.
Won't be a problem, I've already used 20 gallons in two days 😬😬😬. Tractor has been busy 🚜
Andrew, until Tiffany gets all better, you are required to give a Tiffany update at the beginning of all videos.
She's actually doing very well today. Keep in mind these videos are always a few days old depending on recording, editing and uploading.
1st!
Yay you beat Chris!
Yup
Nope.... Your second.... If your not first, your last 😉
Yes sir! Shake and bake!
@@TKCL I was first 🥇🥇🥇🥇
Actually the person above 👆👆 was according to TH-cam! 😬😬
Hi Andrew! Do you have any experience with Ospho. Works amazing on rusty steel. My grandfather used it around the farm all the time.
Phosphoric acid for steel, turns rust black & seals it from any more rusting. In aviation , jet, the fuel has a microbial growth in the moisture in the fuel, they make a chemical called prist that will knock it out. Jet fuel is really clean kerosene.
No experience with it in this type of application. Thanks
@@rebus570 I'm in the aviation industry. I was trying to recreate the same situation for Andrew. 100LL aviation fuel for long term storage in all non catalytic gas powered equipment would do him wonders as well as its distilled and takes on average 9 years to break down as car gas starts at 30 days. And yes he can mix it.
What product did you use for the rust removal?
22 percent vinegar
How many gallons of vinegar did u use?
4 gallons of 22 percent strength.
Why didn't you use your electronic scope to look down and around inside the tank before you put your diesel fuel in it? You own it. you should have used it.
🤦Well now I feel like an idiot..... It didn't even cross my mind with this project. 😬
Thank Brandon for that fuel cost...
Who's Brandon 😉
I hate when my hose flops around…
Hi, What is the name of the chemical?
Just plain ol vinegar. I'm using a stronger 22 percent concentrated version.
Nice project Andrew.... just a word of warning.... don't know what state you're in.... have you checked with the authorities as to what permits you might need for transporting fuel??? Some states require permits and have inspection requirements and size limitations. Fines can be pretty steep!!
I'll double check that.
Take the flameable sticker off of the tank.
Diesel fuel is combustable and should be labeled as such.
Gas is flammable.
If you get stoped by a D.O.T. certified state police officer that is having a bad day is just a plain ass he can write you a ticket.
Good to know
You have a rusty tank and want to add water 🤦♂️
Why dod you get 3 daels of regular vinegar and 1 to 2 strong deals of vinegar to dilute it.
Regular vinegar is what most people use, I had some that was 4 times as strong. You can use any combination you want and get similar results.
Where's this nozzle from? th-cam.com/video/Q4fFh4STfC0/w-d-xo.html
What nozzle are you referring too? The diesel pump itself? I got that off of Amazon, link is in the video description.