How to fit the new Bosch Connect module
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- Bosch has finally released it's new Smart Connect Module, I will show you how to fit it and which one you need for your bike. A few watchers have mentioned that the motor cover when refitted is tight and often difficult to fit. I will continue to monitor, please leave your comments on your experiences. To purchase please go to www.cycle-fast...
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Bosch should pay you for creating absolutely fabulous content about their products! I'm interested in buying the Connected Module, and this video explains this product well.
Hi, thanks for watching and your comment. Yes they should but I have never had any thanks from them??.
Is it possible to also integrate the speedbox in it along with the connected module ? I am really wondering if it did.
@@kavehramzanzadwould there be enough space for both ?
what a great idea, i have ordered one from my dealer, the only thing is really it should be supplied with anti theft screws for the cover otherwise the thief can then remove the cover with ease
Great video ! You’d have thought that with that bracket it connects to , they’d have it in place to start with !! Can you disable the beeps on switch on / off ? That just tells a thief it’s alarmed and they need to find the gps !!
Excellent video! Thanks!
Answered all my questions regarding which unit to get and how, if, I could DIY. Great!
Awesome, thank you!
Great informative video!
I'm having a similar issue with the motor cover on the Victoria Tresalo 17 bike.
After reaching out to the manufacturer they said don't have a suitable cover available and referred me to an universal Bosch cover (EB1120000Y). However this Bosch cover isn't a solution as there is an issue with one of the mounting points (frame partially covers the screw hole) and the visual aspect as the Bosch cover doesn't connects to the front/underside of the bike frame. According to the manufacturer for now there is only the Bosch motor cover or the option of relocating the Connect Module to another place on the bike. It seems I'll have to go for the relocation option. Too bad that bike manufacturers aren't able to foresee or resolve this kind of issues.
good point I totally agree
Got this problem with my new cube reaction 750 pro, GPS works great the trouble is once on the motor cover will not fit back on. What a waste of £99.00 and cube really don’t want to know
@@erikscrase579i have same problem with reaction performance 625, but i maneged somhow to push the unit in, but could not use the holder… but cover vent on with a little bit of force
For all those who have the problem of the engine cover, I'm trying a bit expensive solution, that is the 3d printing of the modified hood. I turned to a shop that deals with 3d prints and it is not an impossible thing for them to do.
Hi William thanks for watching and your comments. Ive spent a lot of time on this issue and its complicated because, Bosch have done a great job of producing a unit that meets the demands of the market but bike manufactures have been busy designing bikes and motor covers based on motors with no connect module attached. this could be that the motor covers we designed/built well before the module or that there is old stock of bikes and newly manufactured bikes have new designed motor covers, if all that makes sense. All this is just my guesswork at the moment but it would appear that there could be a few new bikes! out there with smart motors but no mover cover space for them. maybe 3d printing is an option but It depends on the cost?
William, you need to ensure the company you are dealing with are able to print using SLS Glass Filled Nylon. If you get anywhere with it please post details on here for others. Good luck.
Why try that , when Cube is making one that fits ?
Once again a great video, thank you. Just out of interest, did you encounter any problems refitting the motor cover? I have the Cube Stereo Hybrid 160 and was looking to buy the unit but was put off by comments on the web suggesting that the the cover could not be replaced with the module fitted! Your video does not show this step!
Hi John, Thanks for watching. Yes I did, the cover was extremely tight. I have another one to do next week so i'm going to see if there is better way on fitting the cover. what was your experience?
Thank you for your prompt reply. I’ve not yet purchased the module. Given my online research, I’d pretty much resigned myself to the fact that it would not be compatible with by bike. It’s reassuring to hear that you were able to refit the motor cover. Based on that, I will now place an order for one. If you are able to come up with a better solution, I would be very interested seeing a short video demonstrating the procedure. Excellent channel, very well presented, clear and concise. Keep up the good work!
it is nice and secure ready for person who nicks ur bike to get to really easy, i bet no disrespect i could take the plate of the side and just snip wires and thats it gps off, inless the unit comes battery backed up witch i would be surprised with, i put a cheap 5.99 ali express tracker on mine and its been mint it is hidden in the frame out of way and it would take at least 30 minst if not more to find it
Hi. What’s the link to the gps you got. Thinking about getting 2 for this reason.
@@RockG.o.d il send u link but you have to bear in mind i took this unit out of its housing designed a holder and fitted inside the frame and fitted another antenna as my bike is alloy and signal not that good but ANTENNA sits in the seat post from below works a treat, if u want anymore info then message me its not a problem, i also used a buck convertor so this unit is on all the time it takes a little charge from the bikes battery while connected, then when bike is turned off thew battery lasts about 2 days thats enough time to find your bike and itl take em a day to find one on it as its that small not many people will know what it is there for let alone find it, its smaller than the units you have fitted in the past
Hi Tony, yes thats true but It cant be turned on again without the original owner
Hi, here ya go www.cycle-fast.co.uk/cat/179/GPS+Trackers/
Great video however I fail to see any info on the internet if the connect module will fit on the Gazelle Eclipse C380 HMB
Hi, check to see if it’s not got one fitted already, if not it will fit but it depends if the motor cover is connected module ready
Nice video, easy to follow, but people should move the ebike battery from the holder before doing this kind of jobs it might save something if something odd happens.
Hi, Thanks for watching and your comments
I emailed Cube yesterday regarding replacement motor cover for connect smart system and they have told me the following numbers #3706 for 27.5” and #3819 for 29” 140/160 stereo hybrid .Hope this helps
Hi Thomas, have you managed to get one, they still seem difficult to get.
@@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic Hi ,yes managed to get one purchased from freeborn bikes and arriving tomorrow according to courier so fingers crossed.il give an update once i get it fitted
Hi Dave quick update ,the motor cover for connect module did arrive today as stated and fitted perfect .Thanks to you and your videos fitted the module easily . Got the cover fitted tonight and the module all setup .Keep up the great videos making it easy for all your followers to understand 👍🏻
Thank you for your content! You help me understand things better.
There is not much information about the Bosch Connect Module, and I would like to figure it out. I would be grateful for your response. My question is:
On the Bosch website, it was mentioned that the ConnectModule works with cellular communication. I didn't quite understand, if my bike is several kilometers away from me, will I not be able to see it on the map in my Flow app? Does this module require a SIM card?
Hi, thank you for watching and your question. the connect module has a sim card already integrated into the unit. under normal usage the unit will send its location/movement information via gps signals but as a backup it will also send gsm signals via the sim card to make sure that where ever your bike is it can always be triangulated into the flow app so you can see its location. there is no additional cost to you when it uses the gsm signals. but I believe that there may be a small subscription to pay after the first 12 months if you want to use it's full features.
@@TheYorkshireBikeMechanicThanks a lot!
Thanks for sharing this. After installing do you still need to go to the bike dealer for a special software update? Or is the module recognized by the flow app and I only need to enable the subscription?
Hi, you can enable it from the flow app, everything is done from there
I ordered the wrong connect module I needed the one in this video. The seller said I can just buy the little plastic adapter shown in this video . Do you think that will work ?
Yes and no, the unit has a slightly different fitting, it can be done but you will need to manipulate the fitting plate and drill a new hole for the screw
I wonder if I could retrofit this to Canyon Grail:On CF8 , which has Gen4 Performance Line motor. Doesnt say its a smart motor but are all Gen4 motors compatible ?
I wish I had this 4 days ago, my bike was just walked away with and after this I questioned why is there no GPS built right into these devices. If you don't build them in then they will just be removed like air tags or these other inside the bar ones. A $7000 bill just walked away. This is maybe a better solution as you don't have to pay for it unless you want it but its OEM and is hard to remove quickly. So if the bike is alarmed what does that mean? If someone touches it does an alarm go off. Is there some way to lock the motor so the peddles wont turn? Even a feature that would use the torque sensors to push the opposite way to stop them from peddling would be awesome!
Some of these bikes stark at 10K so this is not an unrealistic solution and my insurance deductible is $1000 and I'm not guaranteed to get the full value for my bike back either! So well worth spending this money before hand
If someone touches the bike an alarm goes off and you receive an alert to your mobile phone. It doesn't lock the crank but it obviously won't power up so will be difficult to pedal. I purchased the Hiplok D1000 angle grinder proof lock so would have ample time to intervene with if the alarm was triggered. £250 isn't a cheap lock but you get complete peace of mind when combined with the connect module!
@@baznant yeah I have the arbus folding lock is about $220 Canadian. I just didn't have it with me
Thanks for your comments, love the Hiplok
@@baznant not everyone can just look at their phone at work and check if their bike still there.
@@RockG.o.d Never said everybody could?
I just get the Bosch module Connect and I am very happy with this GPS alarm systèm, but the only bad point and almost a joke is the power of the alarm sound; it will not afraid even a fly...
Good point
Do you thiink that there is enough space for the Bosch connect Module and a speed unlock chip???
I have a Bosch Performance Line motor on a Canyon ON: Precede 6 (2023) which is Smart System equipped.. Thing is, when I pop the cover off I'm looking at a sealed unit with no exposed wires - nothing like how the motor in this video looks. I must need a completely different kind of install😥
LATEST NEWS ON THE MOTOR COVER : Just been talking to CUBE ,,, latest news from them is that the new motor cover should be available in mid january. Merry Christmas
Thanks for the update on Cube, there is no word from other manufacturers that know of
Hey guys, is there a way to order the cover online and have it shipped? None of my local retailers have it for order at this time
Great video! I am running into a problem now, I have a Riese and Muller bike that has a built in Tracker. Never activated it but would like to use the connect module instead. But there is only space for one of them under the motor cover. Question: the other tracker is connected to the battery, will never use it. Can I just cut it off or will this effect other parts connected to the battery? Thanks!
Hi, can you tell me what is the make and model of the fitted tracker. and some photos.
thanks..very informative. I assume you now need to unpair the bike from your phone so the owner can pair with his/her own phone and ntiate the bike lock/alarm?
Hi, No, I used the owners phone to establish the connection and set up.
@@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic smart cookie!!
This is all well and good if you have the up-to-the-minute motor, but come on Bosch what about all your other e-bike customers? Surely you can design a retrofit for them!!!
Fair Point
Thanks! amazing video , helped a lot
Thanks for watching, your comments and your support
I tried fitting this unit to a Scott Patron which has the inverted Bosch Ce motor. Took the motor cover off, took battery out even too little side panel off but can’t get anywhere near the wires. Do I have to take the motor out?
Hi, no you dont need to take the motor out but you may need a different motor cover.
I’ve just installed this onto my Cannondale moterra but the motor cover doesn’t allow for enough space to go over the module. I’ve tried contacting Cannondale about it but they are next to useless. Do you know if there’s a way of getting a cover to accommodate the model?
Hi, this is a very common problem. It would seem that bosch or manufactures have not been advised of the changes they will need to make to accomodate the new module into the cover. Cube have made some retrofit covers and others have too but some are still ignoring the issue.
@@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic yeah it seems that way. They’re still using Covid as the excuse for not sharing information but surely the bike companies are aware of these components by now.? I was deciding between a Cube and Cannondale and only went with the cannondale to support the local bike shop. Wish I hadn’t now 😂. Do you know of any other avenues I can explore to try and get the model to fit properly? At the minute I’ve got it bodged with cable ties just inside the motor cover but underneath the BB. If I hit anything the module is definitely going get damaged
@@gleneth Until the manufactures come up with a new retrofit cover your only alternative is to have one 3d printed. one of our customers had one done for his whyte and it was superb, not sure of the cost but its definitely worth exploring more.
@@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic yeah these my thought too. I was looking at making something out of aluminium too as we’ve got scraps at work 😂. Top man, really appreciate the advice. 👍
Just a small thing about the alarm/tracker, it doesn’t fit with a Scott Patron, the frame is in the way, luckily I didn’t purchase it myself the local bike shop ordered it in
Hi, thanks for letting me know.
Thank you sir, very useful information.
Your welcome
Quick question, if I do a self install does this affect the 2 years warranty of a Orbea Wild I've just purchased?
Did you ever do this mate? Also for a 23 wild - been advised it won't fit
Good video bosh module let’s see how good it is get someone to steal bike see app can find it like find my bike ?
Hi, Thanks for watching and your comments
Hello, does anyone know what exact module fits the Haibike Trekking 8 High, model year 2024 engine (Performance CX)
It's the 37xx motor, but the cover on the Trekking 8 is too small to allow fitting. There's no way that I can see it will fit without a new cover, and they don't seem to be available.
Thanks
Hi , can you have this traker and a spedbox in the housing unit , or can you you only have one item in there
It would be a very tight squeeze
Hi, I also tried on the same e-bike as you but the main problem is the cover :-(… not possible to cover the motor back! Finally we did it but the plastic cover is deformed! That is why I preferred to remove the module. Pls let us know when you find the solution. thx Roman
Hi Roman, The cover does seem to be an issue, I'm trying to look at a possible work around, will keep you posted.
I have also spoken to bosch about this problem
Will this fit a Haibike Trekking 11 with a performance line cx motor? Do I need a different cover?
Hi, Thanks for watching and your comments. sorry you will need to check with Haibike
Hello, nice video thanks. I have a Cube stereo hybrid pro 750 2023. With the module in place I can't replace the unit cover. Any suggestions please ?
Thanks
Hi Nelson, Thanks for watching, you are not on your own, this seems to be a big issue that Im working on at the minute. will keep everyone posted.
@@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic thank you, for your work and dedication.
Hi Dave ! Have u fitted one of these to a trek rail yet ? Our Bosch rep said that the motor cover supplied from trek may not fit over the connect module ? Just wandered if you’d tried yet , cheers
following!
Hi Gaz, No I haven't but the covers were very difficult to refit on the cube, I have a connectmodule to fit on a bike next week, so I will see what thats and report on that.
I tried and unfortunately the cover won't fit when module is mounted.(rail 9.5 gen 4)
What would be nice see video with bosh module alarm system see bike go missing you find it like find my bike videos you have done is it good as find my bike
@@gr3gg00rHi I have the same problem. Have you come across a solution for this problem yet
Le problème c'est qu'il y a un abonnement sinon ça ne fonctionne pas c'est ça ?
What happens when your main battery dies? is there a backup battery in the device itself? Also does it fit the older Kiox system?
Hi, Thank you for watching, the unit runs from the main bike battery. The unit will only work with the new gen4 smart motors. There are still the Biketrax units that we sell and fit for non smart motors.
I have cube reaction hybrid performance 625, and there is so little space i have to improvise to put unit in. There vas no space for holder and i bearly push it in, so i hope it will be ok after riding…
It is a very tight squeeze, but its important that the right surface is facing the outside
@@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic the black side is facing outside?
Hi, yes, the curved side facing out.@@jernejkorosec441
@@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic thanks
Hi I’m looking for a decent torque wrench for working on the bike, park prices are a little steep so would like your advice on a decent tool
Many thanks
Clive
Hi, the best value for money I feel is the halfords one www.halfords.com/tools/hand-tools/spanners-and-wrenches/halfords-advanced-torque-wrench-model-60-488695.html?_gl=1*1zuss*_up*MQ..&gclid=CjwKCAiAjs2bBhACEiwALTBWZWFJmVchWR9sXlHGCfpjxWrcSvTtP1GZ5cJNmz2WEbPWjc4EJ0LwHRoCLVsQAvD_BwE
You will need a smaller one aswell to do 2 to 12 nm
Hi Dave, that's a lovely Border you have there, really handsome 🙂
Thanks, shes great fun
Hello can you post a video about abs brakes for ebikes particularly interested in shimano as they are able to sell them separately i think, as opposed to magura abs
Hi, Thanks for watching and your comments, shimano blubrake is still in testing and I cant get hold of any to look at.
I've got a cube longtail cargo bike. The cover won't go back on. it is far too tight :(
Hi, thanks for watching, If I remember correctly Cube do a retro fit cover but not sure what the part number is, (Cube Motor Cover BCM Bosch Connect Module Ready)
@@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic thank you for replying! its crazy because the bike has only been out 6 months! you would think they would have fixed that when designing the bike.... its a £4k bike after all!! thank you for your video and replying to my comment!
the Bosch Connect module with a subscription of €40 per year should improve two important points:
first of all a “theft insurance” subscription integrated into this subscription and on a technical level increasing the power of the alarm signal which is rather ridiculous
Which module would fit into a performance line (75NM) motor please.
Hi, this unit will only fit gen4 smart motors
After i installed it exactly like that on my cube stereo hybrid hpc 2022 i couldnt put back on the plastic cover :/
Hi, there is a retro cover for your bike
@@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic I bought this retro fit kit for the CX version but it only had the little fitter for inside in it. no extra cover.
Hi, do you currently have these in stock? Thanks Garry.
Hi, thanks for watching, yes we have but the BDU33YY version only, the BDU37YY we would need to order in.
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic
No worries I was hoping to get one this weekend mine is the bdu37yy.
Quick question my concern is more about being bike jacked whilst riding do you happen to know if the tracker will work in this instance...?
Good job friend
Thanks for watching and your comments
Since publishing this video it has become apparent that when replacing the motor cover after fitting the module it is too tight to re-fit. I can confirm at this point the models affected are Cube. Cube have stated that they have produced a new cover for the affected models and they will be available shortly. The item number for the new engine cover is #3819. For the Stereo Hybrid 160 in size S, the article number is #3706. Please can you place comments on any other manufactures that are suffering the same issues. Thanks TYBM
Thank you for persevering with this on behalf of your viewers, it is very much appreciated! Did Cube give you any idea as to when these might be available, are they taking pre-orders? Can these be purchased through you? I’d much rather support you and your business! Best wishes.
Thank you !!
Thanks again for the fab service on supplying the module. Fitted today on Cube Stereo Hybrid 140 Action Team. Module was a synch to fit. Cover is back on but a larger gap than was there originally. Hope you can notify us, when Cube bring out the modified cover - I will be back on your site to order one, as soon as they are released.
Whyte E bikes also have the same issue.
Yeah so sad you cant get the motor cover on , ill hope Cube is acting quickly on this.
i aV A question for the price of these bikes ud think they would fit them at the factory, and nice 2 c u bak after covid
Hi Tony, Thank you, good comment
how about fitting these on mondraker bikes ? my cover fouls on the unit , have you any updates ?
Hi Neil, this will be a mondraker issue, i'm not sure if they have produced one as yet, sorry
@@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic ok thankyou for the reply
I have just tried to fit one to my Orbea wild 2023. And the motor cover does not fit that either...
Thanks for watching and your comments
Hi, there is a genuine issue with motor covers for a connect module, it needs sorting out.
@@TheYorkshireBikeMechanichas it ever been sorted?
Also got a 23 Orbea Wild - did you find a solution ?
can I use this smart system kiox 300 for bosch motor 2021?
Hi, Thanks for watching and your comment, the smart bosch 4gen was launched in 2022 your motor has to be smart to use 300
Good device. But something concerns me. What stops a thief just removing it?
Hi, Thanks for watching. the thief would need to remove the cover and unscrew the unit to stop the tracking but the bike is digitally locked which renders the motor useless for ever unless you are the original owner.
@@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic have you tested it?
Installed mine 4 hours again but it still hasn’t connected to Bosch via gsm, just says it still setting up mobile connection
It’s now connected , its taken all night but it now works
Glad you got it sorted, thanks for posting with the update.
random how it does not show the cover put back on
I cannot find any supplier for the dbu37 , where can I get one ?
Hi, we sell them direct from our website www.cycle-fast.co.uk/cat/179/GPS+Trackers/
@@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic just ordered one from you , thanks
Thank you
So if you haven’t got a smart 4 gen motor, this new security gizmo from Bosch offers absolutely zero security for your bike. Thank you Bosch.
Hi, Thanks for watching, yes thats true but there are other options nlike the biketrax units we fit
hello! nice gps :) can I found the bike with the system off?
Hi, Thanks for watching and your comment, no the system needs to be on.
@@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic with the BIKE TRAX can I found the bike with the system off?
@@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic the system that I mean is the LED remote. if I take off the bike battery, the track gps works?
Anyone had any luck fitting one to a orbea Wild 2023?
Hi, thanks for watching and your comments, yes but the motor cover might need replacing depending if it has one that allows the unit space to fit in the cover
@@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic Thanks for your reply. That's why I'm asking.
Guy on orbea page said he couldn't get the cover back on.
What's the replacement cover part number? And is it guaranteed to fit the Orbea Wild or is it bike manufacturer/frame specific?
Thanks. I think these are a great idea but so much confusion around the fitting. It's a real minefield. Anything you can do to help would be a great help to the community.
Keyless cars also suppose to be harder to steal 🤷🏻♂️
very true
shame they didnt design for nyon controller too.
Hi, thanks for watching and your comment, there is always the biketrax. www.cycle-fast.co.uk/cat/179/GPS+Trackers/
anyone who fit it into Trek Rail gen 4?
Good product but the alarm sound is ridiculously inaudible
Bought one set it up, DOESNT WORK !!!
Why?????
Not a fan of anything you have to pay for and then have to pay a monthly fee for.
Hi, Thanks for watching and your comments
It’s very affordable though tbf. First 12 months free and then £40 for the year (£20 per year for 2 years) is pretty reasonable for a great bit of kit that keeps you notified and tracks your bike. A lot cheaper than insurance for the year and you’ve got a higher chance of getting your bike back
That seems a bit too easy to access, won't help much because thief can snap it so easily off
Hi, thanks for watching, yes that could be the case, it's always a risk on any device unless its completely hidden or tricky to get to.
Bosch think that thieves will “think it through “ and won’t steal a bike that has electronic protection….
It’s laughable.
Thanks for watching and your comments
Biketrax is an excellent product for non smart gen4 (12 months free subscription) then £6 pm
I agree, the key is getting it in the right position on the bike.
Dave, in your reply to my comment, you stated that, although very tight, you did actually manage to replace the cover on the Cube. Maybe, you could share a video of you replacing the cover in order to help your viewers, myself included. I have ordered one on the basis that this is possible!
@@johnlepage9612 Hi John, The main issue I have is how can I change the cover to fit better. I'm still trying to see if other bike manufactures have made there motor cover the same as the cube, if they have then its obvious that the designed the covers unaware about the connect module. give me a bit of time to suss things out.
Hi Dave ! Have u fitted one of these to a trek rail yet ? Our Bosch rep said that the motor cover supplied from trek may not fit over the connect module ? Just wandered if you’d tried yet , cheers
Hi Gaz, No I haven't but the covers were very difficult to refit on the cube, I have a connectmodule to fit on a bike next week, so I will see what thats and report on that.
Hi Dave thanks for the reply !! We’re looking at stocking them in our store but haven’t had a definitive answer yet . Thanks again
Yeah it won’t fit to the trek rail I had a answer from Bosch
Good product but the alarm sound is ridiculously inaudible