Cool test. If you want faster speeds you need to up the voltage. For your next test, series both your 12v batteries to achieve 24v then connect to the ecoflow. This should double the speed. Another way would to boost voltage would be to get a dc boost converter. They make them in various voltages and amps to fit your needs. Future test possibility? Jasonoid did a similar test where he paralleled two boost converters. More videos and tests please!
Good point. Per Ecoflow specs, the Delta 2 will accept a "hard D/C input limit" of 500 watts (max) using any combination of 12-60 volts and up to 500 watts. This makes it very flexible to use any (battery or solar panel) combination of 12, 24, 36, or 48 volts. For example, A 12-volt D/C battery @ 500 watts will use 41.6 amps / a 48-volt D/C (battery or solar) combination @ 500 watts will draw 10.4 amps. "Hard Limit" meaning anything over 500 watts of D/C input the Delta 2 will shut down all D/C input. Personally, I use four (4) 12-volt, 120-watt panels = 480 watts to stay slightly under that "hard limit". My panels are on a separate solar system specifically for the Delta 2 as a backup for my home office. I have each pair wired in Series (24 volts) and both pairs wired in parallel producing a max of 480 watts @ 24 volts and 20 amps. Note, any A/C input will also override any D/C input, so combining A/C and D/C input is not an option.
@@royrobinson4636 It is also limited to 15 amps. This means you need 34+ volts before you get 500 watts. And if you use an XT60 or the "lighter plug" wired XT60i to connect to the Delta 2 it will only draw 8 amps. This means if you max the voltage to 60 volts you will get 480 watts.
Also you were wondering why it was "only 100W", that's because the battery is 12V and your app setting is likely under car charging 8A. 12*8 = 96W. You can't really go faster given what you have. You could have boosted charging if you wire in a 12v to 24V voltage booster in line. Also ideally you would have a fuse in this setup. Once solution to this is to go use a 12V battery clamp with an inline fuse like a NOCO GC017, and simply use the cigarette cable that came with the Delta 2. That will provide extra production.
There are two primary factors affecting charge speed on the D.C. input: Voltage and Amperage. Watts = Volts X Amps The Delta 2 defaults to drawing an 8 amp limit. If you look inside the XT60 receptacle you can see a small center contact. That's because it is an XT60i, not just an XT60. If that center contact is not connected, it will only attempt to draw 8 amps, just in case you are plugged into a cigarette lighter socket. The lighter plug cable that came with the Delta 2 connects that center contact to one of either the positive or negative lines (I don't remember right now) and the solar MC4 adapter to XT60i connects the center to the other one. When connected like the solar adapter the Delta 2 will attempt to draw up to 15 amps. I have generic MC4 to XT60i (note the 'i' (eye)!) from amazon that is claimed Ecoflow support and is indeed wired correctly so that my Delta 2 Max draws 15 amps. I have an XT60i to XT60 extension cable that is NOT wired correctly. I still need to take it apart and connect that center terminal. To get 500 watts using a good XT60i cable you need nearly 34 volts (33.333 Volts = 500 Watts / 15 Amps). I believe (check my numbers) the Delta 2 can accept up to 60 volts. You can use 3 batteries wired in series to get 36 volts (or 4 wired for 48 volts - recommended). Or you can use a DC to DC boost converter you can boost your 12v battery to 48 volts (recommended, or at least 36 volts). If you were to boost all the way to 60 volt then you could continue to use your 8 amp cable and get 60 Volt X 8 Amp = 480 Watt. Using 36 volt to 48 volt input combined with an XT60i with the center wired correctly will allow the Delta 2 to draw 500 watts.
The Eco Flow car charger plug has a XT60I with the center pin shorted to positive side, so people are not drawing 15 amps from an automotive cigarette lighter socket, which is likely fused at 10 amps, so you are limited to 8 amps. In order to get the full 15 amps into the Delta 2 you need an xt60i cable with the center pin shorted to negative. When the Eco Flow recognizes your XT60I cable as a "Solar" connection you should be seeing closer to 190-200 watts (13 Volts x 15 amps = 195 watts)
I also have a Delta 2 with the Ampere Time LFP, except I use a DC-DC 12v-24v 15A setup converter, just use a XT60i and not the XT60 into the Delta. Since I am a bit of a camping and off grid user, the ampere time is recharged via panels using a Powerwerx MPPT-300-14.6, DC-to-DC Solar Charger Controller and added a shunt to the battery to meter the usage and discharge. Keep testing, I like your work
@@GMC-qo9xi Hey there! I know it's been over a year for this comment, but... I see he didn't answer your question about how many watts he got with that setup. Did you try it? If so, could you please share the results? If not...thanks for your time and have a blessed life.🙏
@@YouTalkinToMeBro hello Bro, I haven’t done anything since then. But since there are other options. I’m not particularly knowledgeable about them regarding whether they might suit your needs/cost, but both ecoflow and bluetti (as well as other brands) have come out with dc-dc chargers. Eg. Ecoflow Alternator Charger; Bleuetti Charger 1… There may be better alternatives out there for your wants, so I’d look for the limitations of these two and see what else is available for comparison. Like maybe you will prefer something from Victron. 🙏 👊
Hi There I do this just the same but with a XT60i and get 190w input I use the cable that came with the delta 2 and have MC4 connectors on the battery.
Hello. And can you charge the ecoflow delta 2 from the sun and charge the extra battery directly from there? I would be interested in such a solution if I have a delta 2 on my camper and an additional battery such that I don't have to buy an additional delta 2 battery.
The direct connection from the 1280ah lifepo4 battery to the Delta 2 (O ring connectors at battery to XT60 solar input at Delta 2) charges at only 100ah. The test he did in another video used an inverter that put 300 watts input into the Delta. Big difference between the direct DC connection used here and using an inverter was that the direct DC connection was about 23% more efficient due to no loss because from inverter.. Some suggest in comments here to use a 24v DC boost converter or two 100ah lifepo4 batteries wired in series to get 24v. Both methods would double the input to 200 watts. Charge Delta with solar and Ecoflow 800 watt Alternator Charger. Charge external lifepo4 battery with PECRON 500W Car Charger DC1242-500.
I just watched a diff youtubers video using a 12vdc to 36vdc converter to get higher watts. Just make sure supply to dc Converter cable is thick enough for the current
I do not understand why you are only getting a hundred Watts I used a 50 amp hour battery hooked up to the solar on the back that looks just like you did and a couple clamps and my EcoFlow mini gets $165 Watts. I am getting ready to hook up a step up from 12:00 to 24 volt and see how many watts charging I get that way from a battery
Could I ask for some advice please? I have an ecoflow delta 2 with the generic ecoflow battery plugged into the side port. Is it possible to add a lithium battery to the solar port also, so that I have 3 batteries on the go?
Hello from Ukraine 🇺🇦, kind difficult time here sometimes no electricity fir a days. Luckily have river pro and looking what kind battery I can use it. How you recharge LiFePI4 12v 100Ah battery back ?
Hey there, In this situation, I think it would be best to have a solar panel to recharge a 100Ah battery. Depending on what connection your solar panel uses, you would need a O ring to whatever connector your solar panel uses. At least, I'm pretty sure that's how you would be able to recharge a battery via a solar panel. For example, if my solar panel used a Anderson port, I would need a Anderson to O ring cable. The Anderson end would plug into my solar panel and the O ring would connect to the battery to recharge it. That said, I believe you will also need Charge Controller, too. Please stay safe.
Thanks for doing the test but something is weird. Either you have a big "Amperetime" battery or the ecoflow is lower capacity than advertised! 153 percent of a 1024wh battery is 1567wh. the amperetime is only 1280wh. So if you take 1280wh divided by 1.53 equals your Ecoflow is only 836wh at best because you also have to account for charging losses!
1:17 Recharge speed is fine, as long as it is higher then the average output. Now you can connect a whole lot of solar and charge the 100 Ah battery with it ;-) Just make sure the battery is ok with discharging to 10 volt which is the cutoff voltage of the Delta
Unfortunately for real world use, you cannot recharge the ampere battery from the delta 2 without additional equipment. The beauty of the ecoflow extra battery is that it charges and discharges with zero conversion loss into the side port. This way a solar panel charges both simultaneously. Your test is interesting, but I assume you’re still charging the backup batter with a separate AC charger which is less usable for mobile situations.
Hopefully this doesn't come across wrong (no offense intended), but if you already have the 2000w inverter, and I would assume an ac battery charger as well, what advantage is there to transferring the power over to the depleted Delta 2 anyway? And have you done any experimenting with step up dc voltage boosters in an attempt to get your input wattages over the 100-120w levels?
Hey there, It's just a test I wanted to run to show that if you have a DELTA 2, you could use a deep-cycle battery like this one as an expandable battery by just using a cable. You're right; I have a 2000W inverter and a battery charger, so it doesn't make sense to transfer power over to a DELTA 2. lol. Also, not sure what step-up DC voltage boosters are, but I'll check it out. I'm mainly just some dude taking a look at products and seeing what happens. Thank you for watching.
The advantages are numerous. What is the cost. The ecoflow backup battery 799 dollars this 100-amp battery is as low as $299. Also you can charge your Eco flow in your tent on a rainy Shady day and have all access to all the inputs of the Delta too. Again just being a little creative with show you how I meant Ada's it would be to have that battery as a backup charger.
@@thefpvlife7785 This is exactly what the benefit is for me. I have 2 @ 220w suitcase and 1@ 200w (vehicle-mounted) bifacial panels and live/camp in an area that only has about 4 hours peak solar hours. On a good day, I can charge my 2 Delta 2 units and my 230ah battery while conditions are optimized. With around 400w from the portable panels, a single Delta2 would take about 2.5 hours to fully charge or about 5 hours for both. At the same time, the 200w panel on my minivan roof can be dedicated to charging the battery. (Or I could dedicate one panel to each, etc.). And once the Deltas were fully charged, I could direct all 3 panels to charge the battery. (The Deltas are limited to 60v 500w pv input thus only 2 panels at a time because of VOC limitations, and the battery is hooked into a separate 100v|50amp mppt charger). Any extra solar the battery could capture would help get me through cloudy days while boondocking, and if I happen to be somewhere with AC power available I can also quickly charge the battery using a separate 40amp AC-DC charger. I'm looking forward to having over 5kwh available (1024wh + 1024wh + 2944wh) plus all the functions of the Delta2 units. I also have a smaller 12v 50ah battery I could include in the mix to get another 640wh. The cost of the additional power from the two batteries works out to be about $0.19 per watt-hour.
Hello, I'm going to say the reason you only get 104 watts charging input is because the extra battery you're connecting to the EcoFlow Delta 2 solar input is a 12-volt battery. Not sure what the solar input rating of the EcoFlow Delta 2 is but 12 volts is probably the bear minimum. I would suggest a fuse be installed on the positive input cables. What happens when a person uses an extra battery like this, and the Delta 2 is asked to run an A/C device? I would suggest a person buy the EcoFlow Delta Max extra battery, $999 and comes with 2000 some watts, and use the supplied connection cable not risking anything. Plus, then you get full APP support and charging of both the EcoFlow Delta 2 and Delta Max extra battery. If I was in the woods and had no solar cells and only a running car, I would use the cars cigarette lighter and charge the EcoFlow Delta 2 with that method. This method is possible, you showed it, but I would fear the possibility of damaging my investment into my EcoFlow Delta 2. Thank you for the video. I enjoy watching and learning. Take care.
@@MyChannel-vm6dw Hello, I'm not an electrical engineer. I do know that EcoFlow allows for a vehicle's standard car cigarette lighter port to connect to the EcoFlow solar input XT-60 connection port. And when charging the EcoFlow Delta 2 in this manner, car idling, the best charge rate input into the EcoFlow Delta 2 would be about 120 watts. So, using that stat as a guide I would install a standard 10-amp fast blow car fuse. I noticed two red wires were being used so I would place a 10-amp fast blow fuse on each red input wire. Please remember I'm not an electrical engineer.
The xt60 cable only allows 8a charging and the xt60i connector allows more, as the solar cable as the xt60i connector. However the delta 2 car charger cable also has a xt60i cable on it, but it is wired to only allow 8a charge, due the vehicle wiring etc
@@chargerharboryes, it should make all the difference. For example, take 12.8v and multiply by the 15A (?) maximum limit = ~200 watts... this is the maximum you can get through the solar input with a 12v battery, because of the amp limitation. BUT if you can raise the voltage somehow, like multiple batteries in series or a voltage converter, THEN you can achieve higher Wattages, as the voltage limit is 60V, correct? So 25v x 15a = ~375W, etc... So the higher the voltage you go, the more watts you can generate while drawing the same number of amps.
Charger Harbor - Thanks for the testing & vids, but do you know why the dc input was throttled down to only 102w? The EcoFlow Delta 2 specs say it can accept up to 500w (11-60V 15A Max, 500W Max) of dc input. I am also curious as to how much heat you got in the wires and what sizes you used.
The XT60 does not have the required 3rd pin that can be wired to tell the Delta 2 it is okay to draw 15 amps. Needs an XT60i (with the 3rd pin) and that 3rd pin needs to be connected like the solar cable, not like the lighter plug cable and not left disconnected.
Hello,how do i look through a historical graph of inputs and outputs load? I dont see it in the app with my delta 2! Though i can see it in videos of other owners of ecoflow...
No, that connector connects to the internal 48 volt battery. Plus there's some data that normally comes from the expansion battery to acually make the connections live. Just checked mine with a meter and there is nothing on them
yes it can recharge but slow recharge. a 24 volt 50 or 100ah would be faster to charge. 24 volts battery = smaller size cables = less expensive i do what you do also but i am savig to buy a 24 volts liefepo4 battery probably a 100ah bettery.
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You're using the wrong Connection XT60 cable. Should have an XT60I cable. Delta 2 with an XT60 can only draw 8 amps where XT60I cable can draw 15amps you'll get much better amperage and power
Man, you hold connect one by one two batteries and you’ll get 24V and 200W charge You may add up to 60 volts (5 batteries) and you’ll get 500W charge speed ;)
To all potential buyers, please avoid buying Ecoflow products. I recently cancelled my 2 orders of Ecoflow Delta 2. They are refusing to refund me. I've never received the products since they have recalled the shipment. They took away my $2,600 . Custoemr service are not responding at all. Please avoid Ecoflow products! !!
You sound like you are getting an incentive to post these comments. (Ie. besides revenge. As there is no way they would cancel a delivery to anyone and then keep the customers money, as that would be fraud at that point and you would then sue them and win immediately. Not to mention any credit card company would reverse the charge upon request by the customer-then the company would have to defend the charges to try and get the money back =instant refund through credit card company.)
Yes it is. That’s exactly what he was doing in this video. But he didn’t reach the true limit, because of improper cable choice (which limited the current) where he theoretically could have nearly doubled the input to ~200w.
Seems like a better and simpler hookup Vs your previous hookup. Thanks for sharing this man. Merry Christmas.
Cool test. If you want faster speeds you need to up the voltage. For your next test, series both your 12v batteries to achieve 24v then connect to the ecoflow. This should double the speed. Another way would to boost voltage would be to get a dc boost converter. They make them in various voltages and amps to fit your needs. Future test possibility? Jasonoid did a similar test where he paralleled two boost converters. More videos and tests please!
Good point. Per Ecoflow specs, the Delta 2 will accept a "hard D/C input limit" of 500 watts (max) using any combination of 12-60 volts and up to 500 watts. This makes it very flexible to use any (battery or solar panel) combination of 12, 24, 36, or 48 volts. For example, A 12-volt D/C battery @ 500 watts will use 41.6 amps / a 48-volt D/C (battery or solar) combination @ 500 watts will draw 10.4 amps.
"Hard Limit" meaning anything over 500 watts of D/C input the Delta 2 will shut down all D/C input. Personally, I use four (4) 12-volt, 120-watt panels = 480 watts to stay slightly under that "hard limit". My panels are on a separate solar system specifically for the Delta 2 as a backup for my home office. I have each pair wired in Series (24 volts) and both pairs wired in parallel producing a max of 480 watts @ 24 volts and 20 amps. Note, any A/C input will also override any D/C input, so combining A/C and D/C input is not an option.
In that case make sure the DC-DC does not discharge the 100 Ah below the voltage that is on it's specsheet
@@royrobinson4636 It is also limited to 15 amps. This means you need 34+ volts before you get 500 watts. And if you use an XT60 or the "lighter plug" wired XT60i to connect to the Delta 2 it will only draw 8 amps. This means if you max the voltage to 60 volts you will get 480 watts.
Also you were wondering why it was "only 100W", that's because the battery is 12V and your app setting is likely under car charging 8A. 12*8 = 96W. You can't really go faster given what you have. You could have boosted charging if you wire in a 12v to 24V voltage booster in line. Also ideally you would have a fuse in this setup. Once solution to this is to go use a 12V battery clamp with an inline fuse like a NOCO GC017, and simply use the cigarette cable that came with the Delta 2. That will provide extra production.
It's actually the xt60 connection he has. The new Delta 2 works off xt60i which gives it more amps in the Delta 2
@@1ENDUSER correct. It has the extra connector that allows it to charge at 15 amps vs 8 amps if I am not mistaken.
XT60i. XT60i. XT60i. XT60i.
There are two primary factors affecting charge speed on the D.C. input: Voltage and Amperage. Watts = Volts X Amps
The Delta 2 defaults to drawing an 8 amp limit. If you look inside the XT60 receptacle you can see a small center contact. That's because it is an XT60i, not just an XT60. If that center contact is not connected, it will only attempt to draw 8 amps, just in case you are plugged into a cigarette lighter socket. The lighter plug cable that came with the Delta 2 connects that center contact to one of either the positive or negative lines (I don't remember right now) and the solar MC4 adapter to XT60i connects the center to the other one. When connected like the solar adapter the Delta 2 will attempt to draw up to 15 amps. I have generic MC4 to XT60i (note the 'i' (eye)!) from amazon that is claimed Ecoflow support and is indeed wired correctly so that my Delta 2 Max draws 15 amps. I have an XT60i to XT60 extension cable that is NOT wired correctly. I still need to take it apart and connect that center terminal.
To get 500 watts using a good XT60i cable you need nearly 34 volts (33.333 Volts = 500 Watts / 15 Amps). I believe (check my numbers) the Delta 2 can accept up to 60 volts. You can use 3 batteries wired in series to get 36 volts (or 4 wired for 48 volts - recommended).
Or you can use a DC to DC boost converter you can boost your 12v battery to 48 volts (recommended, or at least 36 volts). If you were to boost all the way to 60 volt then you could continue to use your 8 amp cable and get 60 Volt X 8 Amp = 480 Watt.
Using 36 volt to 48 volt input combined with an XT60i with the center wired correctly will allow the Delta 2 to draw 500 watts.
The Eco Flow car charger plug has a XT60I with the center pin shorted to positive side, so people are not drawing 15 amps from an automotive cigarette lighter socket, which is likely fused at 10 amps, so you are limited to 8 amps. In order to get the full 15 amps into the Delta 2 you need an xt60i cable with the center pin shorted to negative. When the Eco Flow recognizes your XT60I cable as a "Solar" connection you should be seeing closer to 190-200 watts (13 Volts x 15 amps = 195 watts)
Thanks for the video. This is one more reason for me to get the Delta 2 aside from charging my drones.
This is the first video of your I've watched. Good job. I subscribed.
I also have a Delta 2 with the Ampere Time LFP, except I use a DC-DC 12v-24v 15A setup converter, just use a XT60i and not the XT60 into the Delta.
Since I am a bit of a camping and off grid user, the ampere time is recharged via panels using a Powerwerx MPPT-300-14.6, DC-to-DC Solar Charger Controller and added a shunt to the battery to meter the usage and discharge.
Keep testing, I like your work
How many input watts does your setup provide? Like 360?
@@GMC-qo9xi
Hey there!
I know it's been over a year for this comment, but...
I see he didn't answer your question about how many watts he got with that setup.
Did you try it?
If so, could you please share the results?
If not...thanks for your time and have a blessed life.🙏
@@YouTalkinToMeBro hello Bro, I haven’t done anything since then. But since there are other options. I’m not particularly knowledgeable about them regarding whether they might suit your needs/cost, but both ecoflow and bluetti (as well as other brands) have come out with dc-dc chargers. Eg. Ecoflow Alternator Charger; Bleuetti Charger 1… There may be better alternatives out there for your wants, so I’d look for the limitations of these two and see what else is available for comparison. Like maybe you will prefer something from Victron. 🙏 👊
Hi There I do this just the same but with a XT60i and get 190w input I use the cable that came with the delta 2 and have MC4 connectors on the battery.
Did you use a MC4 connector to O ring to the battery? I was thinking about doing the same thing.
@@Theoriginalfamilyfirstfilms a bit late on this but yes
Kinda shows how versatile the Delta 2 is. I can also use it as a home backup power source.
Try a 12 to 24 volt step up they work very well and there is very little loss, they come in different Amp outputs
Hello. And can you charge the ecoflow delta 2 from the sun and charge the extra battery directly from there? I would be interested in such a solution if I have a delta 2 on my camper and an additional battery such that I don't have to buy an additional delta 2 battery.
The direct connection from the 1280ah lifepo4 battery to the Delta 2 (O ring connectors at battery to XT60 solar input at Delta 2) charges at only 100ah. The test he did in another video used an inverter that put 300 watts input into the Delta.
Big difference between the direct DC connection used here and using an inverter was that the direct DC connection was about 23% more efficient due to no loss because from inverter..
Some suggest in comments here to use a 24v DC boost converter or two 100ah lifepo4 batteries wired in series to get 24v. Both methods would double the input to 200 watts.
Charge Delta with solar and Ecoflow 800 watt Alternator Charger.
Charge external lifepo4 battery with PECRON 500W Car Charger DC1242-500.
With a 1024Wh capacity. I am not surprised that the Delta 2 performed quite well.
I just watched a diff youtubers video using a 12vdc to 36vdc converter to get higher watts. Just make sure supply to dc Converter cable is thick enough for the current
Better to use a XT60i cable because it has an extra pin which makes the Eco think it is using solar and it ignores the 8a car charger safety limit.
I do not understand why you are only getting a hundred Watts I used a 50 amp hour battery hooked up to the solar on the back that looks just like you did and a couple clamps and my EcoFlow mini gets $165 Watts. I am getting ready to hook up a step up from 12:00 to 24 volt and see how many watts charging I get that way from a battery
Could I ask for some advice please? I have an ecoflow delta 2 with the generic ecoflow battery plugged into the side port. Is it possible to add a lithium battery to the solar port also, so that I have 3 batteries on the go?
Hello from Ukraine 🇺🇦, kind difficult time here sometimes no electricity fir a days. Luckily have river pro and looking what kind battery I can use it. How you recharge LiFePI4 12v 100Ah battery back ?
Hey there,
In this situation, I think it would be best to have a solar panel to recharge a 100Ah battery. Depending on what connection your solar panel uses, you would need a O ring to whatever connector your solar panel uses. At least, I'm pretty sure that's how you would be able to recharge a battery via a solar panel.
For example, if my solar panel used a Anderson port, I would need a Anderson to O ring cable. The Anderson end would plug into my solar panel and the O ring would connect to the battery to recharge it.
That said, I believe you will also need Charge Controller, too. Please stay safe.
You can add a 12v to 24v converter and you’ll double the charging speed.
Thanks for doing the test but something is weird. Either you have a big "Amperetime" battery or the ecoflow is lower capacity than advertised! 153 percent of a 1024wh battery is 1567wh. the amperetime is only 1280wh. So if you take 1280wh divided by 1.53 equals your Ecoflow is only 836wh at best because you also have to account for charging losses!
1:17 Recharge speed is fine, as long as it is higher then the average output. Now you can connect a whole lot of solar and charge the 100 Ah battery with it ;-)
Just make sure the battery is ok with discharging to 10 volt which is the cutoff voltage of the Delta
I was not expecting the Delta 2 to pack a 1024Wh capacity since it is rather small.
You should see the delta2 max with double battery capacity in the same size 😮
Unfortunately for real world use, you cannot recharge the ampere battery from the delta 2 without additional equipment. The beauty of the ecoflow extra battery is that it charges and discharges with zero conversion loss into the side port. This way a solar panel charges both simultaneously. Your test is interesting, but I assume you’re still charging the backup batter with a separate AC charger which is less usable for mobile situations.
Ah, you're right. I suppose the extra battery for the DELTA 2 is truly the full package and offers a smoother user experience. Thanks for the info.
Hopefully this doesn't come across wrong (no offense intended), but if you already have the 2000w inverter, and I would assume an ac battery charger as well, what advantage is there to transferring the power over to the depleted Delta 2 anyway? And have you done any experimenting with step up dc voltage boosters in an attempt to get your input wattages over the 100-120w levels?
Hey there,
It's just a test I wanted to run to show that if you have a DELTA 2, you could use a deep-cycle battery like this one as an expandable battery by just using a cable.
You're right; I have a 2000W inverter and a battery charger, so it doesn't make sense to transfer power over to a DELTA 2. lol.
Also, not sure what step-up DC voltage boosters are, but I'll check it out. I'm mainly just some dude taking a look at products and seeing what happens. Thank you for watching.
The advantages are numerous. What is the cost. The ecoflow backup battery 799 dollars this 100-amp battery is as low as $299. Also you can charge your Eco flow in your tent on a rainy Shady day and have all access to all the inputs of the Delta too. Again just being a little creative with show you how I meant Ada's it would be to have that battery as a backup charger.
@@thefpvlife7785 This is exactly what the benefit is for me. I have 2 @ 220w suitcase and 1@ 200w (vehicle-mounted) bifacial panels and live/camp in an area that only has about 4 hours peak solar hours. On a good day, I can charge my 2 Delta 2 units and my 230ah battery while conditions are optimized. With around 400w from the portable panels, a single Delta2 would take about 2.5 hours to fully charge or about 5 hours for both. At the same time, the 200w panel on my minivan roof can be dedicated to charging the battery. (Or I could dedicate one panel to each, etc.). And once the Deltas were fully charged, I could direct all 3 panels to charge the battery. (The Deltas are limited to 60v 500w pv input thus only 2 panels at a time because of VOC limitations, and the battery is hooked into a separate 100v|50amp mppt charger). Any extra solar the battery could capture would help get me through cloudy days while boondocking, and if I happen to be somewhere with AC power available I can also quickly charge the battery using a separate 40amp AC-DC charger. I'm looking forward to having over 5kwh available (1024wh + 1024wh + 2944wh) plus all the functions of the Delta2 units. I also have a smaller 12v 50ah battery I could include in the mix to get another 640wh. The cost of the additional power from the two batteries works out to be about $0.19 per watt-hour.
One thing I do like about that Delta 2 is the 80 minute charge time which is fast.
get you a 240w converter and add the xt90 adapters and it will input 200 watts from the battery
Hello, I'm going to say the reason you only get 104 watts charging input is because the extra battery you're connecting to the EcoFlow Delta 2 solar input is a 12-volt battery. Not sure what the solar input rating of the EcoFlow Delta 2 is but 12 volts is probably the bear minimum. I would suggest a fuse be installed on the positive input cables. What happens when a person uses an extra battery like this, and the Delta 2 is asked to run an A/C device? I would suggest a person buy the EcoFlow Delta Max extra battery, $999 and comes with 2000 some watts, and use the supplied connection cable not risking anything. Plus, then you get full APP support and charging of both the EcoFlow Delta 2 and Delta Max extra battery. If I was in the woods and had no solar cells and only a running car, I would use the cars cigarette lighter and charge the EcoFlow Delta 2 with that method. This method is possible, you showed it, but I would fear the possibility of damaging my investment into my EcoFlow Delta 2. Thank you for the video. I enjoy watching and learning. Take care.
What size fuse on the positive would you suggest?
@@MyChannel-vm6dw Hello, I'm not an electrical engineer. I do know that EcoFlow allows for a vehicle's standard car cigarette lighter port to connect to the EcoFlow solar input XT-60 connection port. And when charging the EcoFlow Delta 2 in this manner, car idling, the best charge rate input into the EcoFlow Delta 2 would be about 120 watts. So, using that stat as a guide I would install a standard 10-amp fast blow car fuse. I noticed two red wires were being used so I would place a 10-amp fast blow fuse on each red input wire. Please remember I'm not an electrical engineer.
Ecoflow must have done something with their firmware to disable this. I have tried several cables and none seem to work.
Where is the link for the cable? Just curious if it's XT60 or XT60i end? That's why you can only get 100 watts fyi.
I have added the link to the cable in the description. It's a XT60 cable. Thank you for the info! Would a XT60i end make a difference?
Thanks for the link , it's supposed to make a diff idk goodluck
The xt60 cable only allows 8a charging and the xt60i connector allows more, as the solar cable as the xt60i connector. However the delta 2 car charger cable also has a xt60i cable on it, but it is wired to only allow 8a charge, due the vehicle wiring etc
@@chargerharboryes, it should make all the difference.
For example, take 12.8v and multiply by the 15A (?) maximum limit = ~200 watts... this is the maximum you can get through the solar input with a 12v battery, because of the amp limitation. BUT if you can raise the voltage somehow, like multiple batteries in series or a voltage converter, THEN you can achieve higher Wattages, as the voltage limit is 60V, correct? So 25v x 15a = ~375W, etc...
So the higher the voltage you go, the more watts you can generate while drawing the same number of amps.
52% / so what charge is left on the stand alone battery, 52% seems a rather low charge level ?
I was able to recharge the DELTA 2 power station to 100% once and then another 52% on top of that after discharging the DELTA 2.
@@chargerharborI see, I just received my Black Friday Li Time Battery, I think I need another at the prices they had! - will give this a try thanks
whats the cost of recharging the Ampere lifepo4 batter from the grid? vs an extra delta battery or just from grid power to recharge
Is there a way to charge the Ampere time battery using the ecoflow?
I suppose you could use a battery charger with the AC outlet, lol. That's the only way I could think of right now.
Charger Harbor - Thanks for the testing & vids, but do you know why the dc input was throttled down to only 102w? The EcoFlow Delta 2 specs say it can accept up to 500w (11-60V 15A Max, 500W Max) of dc input. I am also curious as to how much heat you got in the wires and what sizes you used.
The XT60 does not have the required 3rd pin that can be wired to tell the Delta 2 it is okay to draw 15 amps. Needs an XT60i (with the 3rd pin) and that 3rd pin needs to be connected like the solar cable, not like the lighter plug cable and not left disconnected.
Hello,how do i look through a historical graph of inputs and outputs load? I dont see it in the app with my delta 2! Though i can see it in videos of other owners of ecoflow...
What would happen if you had a 200 ah Lithium on that xt60i DC charge? Is that too much for the cable? Would it be faster aka more watts?.
At 100 watts of input, did it take about 10 hours to charge the Delta 2?
Would this work with a 50Ah battery?
Can you hook a battery like that into the expansion port on the side?
No, that connector connects to the internal 48 volt battery. Plus there's some data that normally comes from the expansion battery to acually make the connections live. Just checked mine with a meter and there is nothing on them
Don´t forget to use a fuse in the cable/wiring
can you power the battery while connected to the power station?
yes it can recharge but slow recharge. a 24 volt 50 or 100ah would be faster to charge. 24 volts battery = smaller size cables = less expensive i do what you do also but i am savig to buy a 24 volts liefepo4 battery probably a 100ah bettery.
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Is there a way to charge the external battery via EcoFlow
What if you hook the battery with the pass through port?
You nee use a xt60i cable to charge more watss
You're using the wrong Connection XT60 cable. Should have an XT60I cable.
Delta 2 with an XT60 can only draw 8 amps where XT60I cable can draw 15amps you'll get much better amperage and power
Man, you hold connect one by one two batteries and you’ll get 24V and 200W charge
You may add up to 60 volts (5 batteries) and you’ll get 500W charge speed ;)
Use a dc dc voltage booster and plug into solar
Get a DC to DC charger and you can increase the watts
How many amps does the ecoflow battery store?
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Would of been nice to see the back of the power station hookup
And you speak so Dan fast with cc on couldn’t follow
Lots of blah
Get a 24v battery people and you will double the charge
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You sound like you are getting an incentive to post these comments. (Ie. besides revenge. As there is no way they would cancel a delivery to anyone and then keep the customers money, as that would be fraud at that point and you would then sue them and win immediately. Not to mention any credit card company would reverse the charge upon request by the customer-then the company would have to defend the charges to try and get the money back =instant refund through credit card company.)
two batteries will give you 500 w charging
Is it not possible to charge the ecoflow through the solar input at night ?
Yes it is. That’s exactly what he was doing in this video. But he didn’t reach the true limit, because of improper cable choice (which limited the current) where he theoretically could have nearly doubled the input to ~200w.