Copper Bars from Scrap Copper, Selling for Profit
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 เม.ย. 2018
- Melting copper & pouring ingots to re-sell and stacking copper bullion.
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Pouring copper bars is my hobby as I stack all kinds of precious metals like gold & silver as well as copper.
Free copper is available from scrap microwave ovens, old tv's, electrical motors etc.
I sell some of my ingots to other stackers and pure copper ingots fetch 6x scrap value because it's not easy to do, it takes an investment if a furnace & equipment as well as being quite a dangerous thing to do with extreme temperatures.
See these bars listed on eBay here.. goo.gl/8vQMFD
Scrapping tools, safety gear, metal melting furnaces, crucibles and ingot moulds that I use or recommend.. www.amazon.com/shop/ewasteben
Keep scrapping & have fun! - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
30 years ago myself and one of my best friends used to make copper, brass and aluminum ingots for sale at a flea market. We would leave the ingot in the mold until the next one was to be poured to keep the molds hot and ready.
Wonder if that would be profitable nowadays
@@joshschneider9766 The price of copper was going way down in June but the price is starting to pick up again.
You are right every ingot is unique. I know you could make money but I can’t sell mine I love them too much . I poured a 10 Pound copper bar on my channel and my mate offered to buy it for $100 ,I told him noway not gonna happen ! $150🤔mmmmaybe . Great vid as always matey , Perfect pours mate . I love when copper pours like water it’s so much easier as you say to take it up to 100°C well over melting point to make it easier. After this video you’ll probably have 1000 watching your bars on eBay 👍🏻.
Yeah i've watched your video a few times, the 10lb bar I poured turned out great too, and yeah, not for sale :)
eWaste Ben oh yeah That’s right you did it a few months ago I remember now. I watch so many scrapping casting videos I can’t keep track of them all🤨😁
You've got a great channel, I like how your sticking to your guns and not drifting away from your casting vid's, your ticking along great, hope to see you do a special pour for your 10,000 sub's milestone
eWaste Ben yeah matey I’ll have to think about something for the 10k for sure . Keep up the great content mate , Aussie Aussie Aussie Oi Oi Oi 🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻
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Need to preheat your molds and use flux before you pour, your barswill look 100 times better. Also, flip them into water about 10-20 seconds after pouring, and there will be less ripples on top of the bar. If you watch closely after pouring, you can see the copper harden over. Then flip into water.
I love the pride and confidence you display in your explanation of your every craft from copper to gold my friend...
If you have a lot of scrap copper that's not in ingot form, then it's worth it to melt down. Not only for its "artisanal" value, but also to save on space. You're looking at a small fraction of the required space, to that of all the loose wire (especially when we're talking about higher gauge wires).
"The smaller one is going to be the lighter one" Such profound wisdom.
Wow...how do you know? Far out!
I've never seen anyone challenge a fire to a duel before.
please give me timestamp xD
Thanks again Ben,every one of your videos is a inspiration for me.
I don't know why watching guys doing metal stuff like this gets me going like this but I know I had the evening of my life right now watching it. Keep it going.
I literally fell asleep watching this
some people get gold fever but i've got a thing for copper.
Your a Copper Head
It's pretty.
Yah, Copper!
And I myself has a special fond of Silver. :)
@@josephpaul0484 You have the silverbug. Check out the subreddit.
Love it!! Maybe if you put your molds into a pile of sand. The sand would help keep them hot. Far better than open air at least. Or maybe just surround them with fire bricks... ?
Mesmerizing! I can’t
stop watching these videos about making bars for some reason. Keep them coming!
Right!!
Well done Ben, enjoy your hobby hope you do ok with the sales.
Why you watching him and not lil uzi vert
Haha, I’m down the rabbit hole.
@@davidbaker2859 sssx
Right before you pour take a little handheld torch and heat the molds up and I think they will come out better they sure look cool when they're done don't they
In my experience I think if he poured faster out of the furnace and skimmed the top of the metal before pouring and the top of the ingots before they cool they’ll come out cleaner
Anthony Pagenkopf something like a mini torch or two sized flame with a medium thick sheet of metal should keep the heat in the molds you can heat the pans with a torch or another method. On a separate note your doing good it’s important to have flaws in your projects god knows mine do some people brush these comments off as hateful but while they should be taken with a grain of salt they’re still a great forum of knowledge
That's exactly how BigstackD does it and it really does turn out better than this.
Really enjoyed the Video. I collect fine copper bars and yours look truly artisan. Well done
Nice scaled attempt, not bad for start!! No doubt you already know what you can improve upon. Most important looks like you had fun doing it. Welcome to the metal melting party.
This never gets old no matter how many times I watch it!
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I keep watching this video over and over, I am so excited for my forge to arrive! Great video! and good on ya for mentioning safety gear!!
I’m in the same now 2 years later. Which forge did you go with and how do you like it?
These are the kinda videos you watch at 3AM when your bored. Interesting stuff lol
12am**
3:20am
Tell me why it’s 3 am rn and I’m stuck watching these types of vids... 🤣🤣
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Update on this lot, 3 weeks and 12 bars have sold, only two left from this batch, new batch coming soon when weather permits
Yes i have seen that. Congratulation for all your work !
Hey there, been a subscriber for a bit now. I just got my 1st furnace. Merry Christmas to me. You inspired me my friend. Can't wait to make some bars for gifts and hoard and sell. Love watching your videos you really go into detail and have helped me with my scrapping. Keep up the informative videos...Trash Pirate from the States.
Which forge did you get and how do you like it? I’m about to buy one now just not sure which to go with
god that copper looks so beautiful when its being poured. love your vids
another cool vid Ben, thanks. Can't wait till I get around to pouring.
Bought the 1.44kg bar as soon as I saw it. I had to pause the vid. Great work, keep it up.
Thanks man, It's the nicest one for sure, choice pick.
@@eWasteBen please upload video every day.... I like you channel and always support you
Totally agree with what youre saying on the video its not scrap melted to scrap its the time the effort the gas costs etc and the end result of course id provably use a copper ingit as a fancy paper weight or door stop but knowing that it has artistic and financial value too. Well done by the way i enjoy watching the pours.
Awesome pour good Sir! Love em!
Greetings from Pennsylvania USA Like watching & keep up the videos!! I love when you go scraping and finding all the cool stuff. Hear in PA we have yard sales, but after the sale ends most of the left over stuff is set at the curb. and any one come pick out what you like. Also most towns have a one day a year you can set out your junk to the curb. Hang in there, and stay cool in every way!!!! Robin Jo
the bars quenching sound quite satisfying
They look absolutely fabulous!😃👍
Hi Ben, I'm loving your videos. I just started pouring my own copper bars. It is super fun. I've been pouring in green-sand molds. I need to get some graphite molds like yours to make it easier :-)
How did you start? and Can you tell me how much totally paid for now?
Anybody know where to get molds ?? Obviously larger sized ones .
Love this kind of videos, the longer the better
Pretty nice clean ingot moulding you had made
Why are your videos so perfect
A great informative video, thank you posting
I like your new set up love the grill on blocks
Two really good pours around 30 min’s into the vid 👍
Well done Ben. This is an excellent skill to master, very smart.
There's always someone to criticize what you enjoy doing because you like doing it your way. Keep doing what you enjoy my friend. Great job. Ontario, Canada🍻
Very, very cool. Personally I love the look of copper. Currently in the process getting the equipment to copper plate my bicycle and then clear coat it.
Thank you Ben , many of us wanted to see you pouring Kilo Koppa Bars !.. Also as an option , if you want to keep bars shiny you can apply a light coat Spray Varnish Ex = Everbrite Coatings
Yeah but with coating it you'll be adding impurities again. Maybe it is an idea to vacuum them in a bag with a vacuum device?
Wow, very clean setup and nice safety precautions! Great video as usual, keep up the good work!
Great info and advice. I just bought the 10kg Devil forge. New sub, greetings from Switzerland
Beautiful bars thanks for sharing
It's f... awesome, so beautiful !!! Very good job !
I know I'm super late but I just found you this is my first video and I have been looking for a really long melting stuff and I really enjoyed this video and I'm going to start catching up
I seen a video where they were pouring gold into ingot molds,as soon as they completely filled the mold to the point it was over flowing the rim,just as the pouring was finished, another person used what looked like a large straight edged piece of stainless steel,doing a quick swipe across the top of mold,taking the overflow off and leaving a top surface that is real smooth.
The gold that was scraped off the top just fell into a hopper below. Maybe you might like to try that trick on copper .BTW,.check those bricks below the grate from time to time for cracking. Heat really does a number to that type of brick.
Before I pour I always set my graphite mold inside my Foundry and let it get warm and then I use a grass burner to keep the mold hot I found it work better and I like the result
Wow so that’s just plain cool. Copper rukes
Not only do people like a Copper Bar to keep but for many metal collectors its an investment also especially in the long run when prices go up , just like the stock market there is money to be made when the price is right , i call it smart investing .
I've been watching your channel for a while but this is the first casting one.
Very nice.
These are good for sale to small foundries. Recycling facilities pay bottom dollar for cast metals. Novelty sales to the public fetch the highest price but the real value won't exceed spot as purity can't be confirmed.
How many pours from a full tank of gas Ben ?
Strangly mesmerizing watching your video .
Like working with lava. Thanks for posting.
Hi Ben, just watching your video, you said it takes 25mins for solids to melt and 40mins for wire, I don't know if you have an issue with your furnace or regulator, but I use a home made forge and it takes 15mins for wire and 8mins for solids. For copper I use .12mpa and generally put solids in first then add wire when its melted, it takes seconds to melt wire
Making cold water; drop in some ice.
Making hot water, drop in some ingots.
you're living the dream! wish i had the equipment and copper to do that!
Nice work.
Beautiful sir! 👍
Nice vid Ben, thx
I've learned so much from you brother!!!!!!!!
Thanks for the video mate you look good at it, I would love to buy one of those furnaces but your link says unavailable at the moment, Don't know if I can find one here in UK
Cheers Toby
I've been scrapping and casting copper/aluminum/brass/zinc/you-name-it ingots for a while now.
I love molten copper. There's nothing quite like it.
I saw a video of some chinese guy selling these (supposedly) expensive furnaces for melting gold. He would measure up some gold in pellets to a pretty exact weight and then had these smallish molds that he would fill with the pellets and then put into the furnace.
When the gold was melted he took it out and let it cool and it looked absolutely flawless. Not quite minted but almost. (I know it's an entire - and much more expensive setup)
I suppose it's the even heat, where a pour the way you do it will "shock" the first few drops and whatnot and they cause the bar to become rough looking.
Would you ever consider to try and put your small mold into the furnace with some measured-off copper and try and make a "clean" (unpoured) ingot?
Different material. Cant work that way
Can’t stop watching your videos learn every one, when will the next copper melt be?
Getting ready to retire. Enjoy your input . Keep it up.
I love watching copper when it's in liquid form
looks like every other metals melted...
...Except for a few like mercury and solder, @@kellon.o.g3281
Coppah
What about it, "@@MalikSucksAss"?
Nice bars. Good job.
Great work 👍🏻
„You can’t do it on a camp stove“ 😂🤣 best explanation ever 😅
Lol
Killer looking bars, I would buy some !!!!
Ben, you are truly absolutely amazing, you really really are. Brilliant! Magnificent pours and they polished up to an outstanding finish! I tip my hat to you, kind Sir!🎩
You mention the mold was too cool, leaving pits on the bottom. Would keeping the molds over a suitable charcoal fire during the pour leave them smoother?
Really great info mate...
Great job of the making of the bars. Have a wonderful day.
another great video
Yes, yet another excellent smelting video great to see & Very Informative many thanks again, as It helps a lot, any advice on the moulds only pls!
I love the way you pour the molten copper into the moulds then they glow orange wow so hot. Just subscribed to your channel I'm from London UK
Have seen multiple metal pours lay the molds on top of the furnace vent then take them off and they turn out good bars.
Have you ever thought of pressing the copper in hydrolic press before melting? May speed up melt
You are correct.
A steel mold and a hand hydraulic jack would work just fine for pressing.
would it help if you sat your molds on s lit grill (BBQ) as this would keep the molds at a more controlled heat at minimal expense?
If you wax your bars with car wax would it stay shiny for a lot longer? Or are they better solution to stop the oxidation
this is the first time I see metal pouring without making a mess, good job. if want them to stay shining can can u paint them with a coat of something so they don't tarnish?
Total Heat/Energy (Q) = M (mass in kg) * Cp(heat capacity in j/kgC) * DT (change in temperature degC)
Cp (water) = 4200 J/kgC
Cp (copper) = 385 J/kgC
If you wanted to cool down a 1kg copper bar from say 1000 degC to 25 deg C or room temperature, the total heat removed from the copper bar is Q = 1*385*(1000-25) = 375,375 Joules
The 375,375 Joules of energy removed from the copper bar is transferred to the water. Let's say the cold tap water is initially at 10 deg C and there is about 10 liters or 10 kg of water in the container.
What is the change or increase in water temperature when you drop 1kg of hot copper in the container?
375,375 = 10*4,200*(T-10)
so T = 8.9 deg C
At the most the water temperature should increase by about 9 deg C for each 1 kg copper bar you drop into 10 liters of water.
So two 1 kg copper bars initially at 1000 deg C should increase the water temperature by about 18 deg C.
Unless you had less than 10 liters of water in the container or your cold water was a lot warmer, I cant see the water getting that hot. (the other factor is that ingot weight was a lot higher than 1 kg)
it also has to due with the fact that math cant always solve everything or predict everything correctly, im sure there and many variables you are missing out and obviously you dont have the exact temperatures but still
@@Fisheiyy In cases like this, math absolutely can solve it accurately. The biggest factor the OP didn’t think about, is simply that hot fluid rises. It is certainly possible to have near boiling water at the top of a container, and significantly cooler at the bottom. If the water was well stirred, the temperature should be very close to the math.
Love your videos!
So correct me if I'm wrong but this is my understanding. For a cheaper price, you can get factory made bars with a garunteed quality standard, all of which are pure copper and the same shape and size and weight, which I would assume People who like stacking bars would want. For some reason, I can't see a reason to buy a more expensive, hand poured bar without a quality garunteed, without a garunteed of PURE copper - there is no way of knowing what other metals are in there- and they are all different, which I would assume makes stacking hard, however I am not an ingot stacker, nor will I ever be, so I can't say. I will just say this it honestly doesn't make sense to me. Any constructive feedback will be appreciated. However I do understand that as a hobby it can be satisfying and nice to know that you created it.
Either way, I love your content and you got a sub from me
Listen carefully - Pure Copper Wire. Nothing but Pure Copper Wire.
@@organbuilder272 There are may copper alloy wires on the market what claims to be 100% pure copper, wire, unless you source it from high end hifi system or wire from very old equipment. you can tell when you are stripping the wires 100% pure copper wire is very soft.
@@leoncryp8182 copper wire can be soft or it can be hard, it all has to do with how it's treated. Copper will get hardened by working it, and you can anneal it by heating and quenching it. So you can have high tensile strength copper wire or very soft copper wire.
As for purity, wire thats produced for household wiring should be 99.9% pure. That is wiring which complies to relevant standards. Wiring inside electronics I have no idea.
No stamps or tests proving it regardless however.
Leon Cryp
I just recently got in to pouring copper and other metals. And Electronica scrapping. When you pour your copper. How do you make it look so good?
Molten metal reminds me of my favorite movie Terminator 2. 👍
i remember when it was released...good film to see in theaters.
the way he says bullion is fantastic
Now, May I have to take a shower, great job! 😊
Good stuff
Hai
It was a good and useful information. I have a question the container which you used is made of which material?
Would be great full if you answer me.
Thanks
Hi which container you mean? The one he is pouring metal in? Its graphite
Ben could you please recommend a furnace to melt copper wire. I would only be doing no more that 100lbs a year don't care if it is propane or electric. Thank you
Well Done!
Have you considered using a hydraulic press to compress the wire into small dense pieces. Might help speed up the melting and reduce gas usage
You are the only melting you tuber I have seen that speaks in the video and doesn’t just leave text dat y I like u more :)
Ben, if you preheat the molds, will the ingots smooth out more?
keep posting Love these videos!
Love mulitgrips. This is amazing indeed, puts my tries to shame.
Love to watch this one. There's something about fire and molten metals that bring the kid out in me!!
Shane i just saw your comment on BigstackD! What a coincidence!
Have a look at some old thermometers and you'll see some molten metal at average room-temperature!
@@HelloKittyFanMan. Yes. Called mercury. Not healthy if entered the body.
Could they be capped after the pour just for a more smooth open side? Love watching this. Thanks!
Impurities must be up top.then polished off.
What size crucible are you using in the video? It looks like a 5 kg or bigger. Nice pours...