But the British DID have purpose built landing craft at Gallipoli, they were called "X Lighters" (and nicknamed "Black Beetles") and their success at Suvla Bay literally paved the way for the use of landing craft on every amphibious landing since! Here's more information: www.xlighter.org/ and weaponsandwarfare.com/2018/12/01/x-lighters/
My mistake for considering only the initial landings. Everyone please ensure to look up these early craft. Interesting that they used heavy oil engines, presumably due to the issues with petrol engines etc that I mentioned in the initial response.
@@Drachinifel Oh, absolutely! I'm sure they drew their inspiration from canal barges, since from 1910 onwards a lot of companies had started installing heavy oil engines on barges which otherwise were too small to carry a steam engine and that had proved massively successful. Besides, it's not like they had much choice - while two-stroke hot-bulb -paraffin- *EDIT: crude oil* engines might have been crude and underpowered, they were also cheap to make, easy to maintain, worked on low-pressure and didn't need a fiddly electric ignition system like petrol engines. Oh and you weren't about to explode from the fumes either, which was a definite plus... I mean what else were they going to do? Adopt the Diesel engine like the French (1901) and Germans (1914)? * mock shudder *
@@wingsofwrath4647 'Hot Bulb' engines were not all Paraffin and, seeing as 'Heavy Oil' is mentioned, alongside Bolinders, famous constructors of this type of engine, and Canals, where such engines were taking over from the horse, I suspect that the engines were in fact Semi-Diesels. These burnt, you guessed it, Diesel but at a compression that did not cause it to self ignite, hence the Hot Bulb. Pressures were at a level that machinery used for Steam Engine construction could be used to make them and, at least on canals, a trick from Steam was used, the exhaust was cooled in a condensing chamber connected to the 'back' of the piston, adding 'suck' to 'boom'. The interrupter governor on the E-Series and the Direct Reversing are also rather fun. Several single-cylinder versions of these wonderful engines are still in use on the canals of Britain and have a distinctive booming note, interrupted in a random manner that makes it sound like the engine is malfunctioning, that carries for some distance. This distinctive sound leads to heads and bodies emerging at speed from all craft in hearing to watch in awe as a member of the canal aristocracy moves serenely past. www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Marine/bolinder.htm
@@Drachinifel One thing to consider is that the Gallipoli Campaign did not fail because of the initial landings. While in some places very costly, the initial landings were mostly successful. The problem came *after* the initial beach heads were established. Put quite simply (and quickly), not enough emphasis was placed on getting the troops out of the beach heads and inland as quickly as should have occurred, which gave the Turks ample time to get reinforcements into the area. This then led to the campaign then bogging down into the familiar trench warfare. Once the Turks got blocking forces in that was it, the terrain is hellish from the perspective of soldiers who have to attack it. There are a multitude of reasons for why Trench warfare occured on the scale it did during WWI, and incompetance of the Generals is not, despite the view of many, a primary factor. Rather the factors are considerably more nuanced. Stagnation of communications technologies meant attacking forces were limited to runners and pigeons (telephone lines laid over no mans land were possible but it was not a case of if they got cut by artillery fire, but when), which meant huge delays in getting information back to attacking commanders. Mobility was seriously curtailed by the fact that traditional cavalry were (generally) obsolete and nothing had yet arisen to replace them, meaning armies could only advance as fast as a man on foot. Specifically for Gallipoli were the facts that the terrain was hellish, but more importantly all the supplies had to be shipped in, and that INCLUDED the all important artillery and artillery ammunition. There was simply not enough specialised shipping or facilities to ship out or offload the huge quantities of artillery ammunition that an Artillery War like WWI (and it WAS an artillery war) required. Gallipoli was not in and of itself a BAD idea, if it had been conceived in 1944 when maritime supply of large, artillary focussed armies was far better understood, and there was greater availability of specialist equipment vital for such an undertaking.
Mention should also be made of the Russian Black Sea fleet, that built and operated a substantial fleet of dedicated landing craft for their amphibious campaigns against Turkey in particular. The small Bolinder class (1916), named after the semi-diesels that powered them (www.navypedia.org/ships/russia/ru_ls_bolinder.htm) and the later (1918) and larger multi-purpose, steam powered Elipidifor class.
On the subject of Mosquitos on aircraft carriers, 618 squadron (the squadron that had the Highball bouncing bomb) was deployed to the far east theatre for carrier operations, in 1944, for attacks against capital ships. The aircraft were mildly modified, but did not have folding wings. Some of 618 squadron performed a number of actual carrier take offs and landings in training (on HMS Implacable), and the aircraft reportedly performed well. The aircraft were disassembled somewhat and stowed on 2 escort carriers, and the squadron and its aircraft arrived in Melbourne around Xmas 1944. By the time the squadron was ready for action, there were no carriers available to embark them and little left to attack with Highball anyway. The US also opposed their deployment for a number of reasons, and the whole project was pretty much dropped. So there almost were Mosquito carrier operations during WWII.
Another great Sunday for a Drydock episode. I live not far from Evansville. FYI, Fort Knox Kentucky has a preserved LST mock up from WW2. They used it for logistical exercises to determine the best loadouts and boarding/off loading procedures for the rest of the fleet. US Army Materiel Command still owns and operates the sealift museum there.
After the war Australia had a desperate shortage of shipping, but they were keen to establish bases in Antarctica and nearby islands. So they used a LST left over from the war to establish a base on ice covered Heard Island. The journey from Melbourne through the stormy Southern Ocean almost broke the flat bottomed LST's back a few times, but they arrived and set up a base near Antarctica in December 1947. However after the LST made it back to Australia, it was a write off.
Since this got a few likes, here's a link to the record of the Antarctic LST with photos. I can supply more info if Drach or anyone else wants to know more. www.antarctica.gov.au/about-antarctica/history/transportation/shipping/labuan
I'd recommend starting with the channel admin... Mostly because even I tend to watch these over multiple days and as such it would be beneficial to get any announcements and such out of the way as quickly as possible (Plus more people would get to them this way)
Timestamps are great, but just result in me clicking on the channel admin, then re-watching the whole thing. Good experiment, but definitely prefer front-loading that.
Drydock ventures into British vs Martian naval combat in the English Channel. Are there NO limits to how thorough Drachinifel's coverage of naval combat are? ;-)
Peking and Sack (I think that would be the translation) of Polish Navy in 1939. What could be done better? Also I will hopefully become Patreon in next month.
Why were the italians so succesful at anti submarine warfare in ww2? With so many british submarines sunk by italian destroyers, torpedo boats and corvettes was it mainly because of luck or because the italians as a whole were quite skilled at anti submarine warfare?
This actually came to me in yesterday's video, but there was no pinned post when I watched. Still, the question: Did submarine deck guns need any sort of additional preparation after surfacing to be able to used? Like, say opening the breech to drain water, maybe wiping off some parts so the salt doesn't clog it, etc. And did they need any extra maintenance after being constantly submerged?
@Nguyen Johnathan At least until the guns do malfunction. If the Richelieu was notorious in WW2, I wonder how it would have worked in WW1. Most likely not really well, inaccurate, slow RoF, and prone to malfunctions. Of course... until the enemy circles you with greater range, AND greater speed, while having heavier armor, guns that can penetrate you, but you can not hurt them back.
@@josynaemikohler6572 Richelieu didn't have turret mechanical problems. What it did have was gas shells with a cavity in them which broke up in the barrel when fired with full charges. That was the real issue.
How do you manage to keep all this information in your brain... I am staggered and impressed by the breadth and depth of your knowledge. Also, impressed that you use the words 'fewer' and 'less' correctly.
I can't help but feel that upon seeing the success of the Thunderchild, a cry of "set sail for ramming speed, fire at will" would have gone up :) Battle lines are nice against a known enemy, but this was a almost God-like power that had just been felled by one of your brothers charging in guns firing, seems like a good idea, get in close and either take them out with bow or bullet, beats sitting back and finding out just what the range of the poison gas or death ray actually are 🤷♂️
Yeah! They also have torpedos and some naval AA iirc. Theres tons of really cool stuff there. Amazing museum. It's actually my favorite museum of all, and I get to visit the Wright-Patt National AF Museum which is also pretty epic. Chicago has some reallyyyy good museums
When i was in Chicago working at the refineries around the area that exhibit was one of my first go-to’s on my days off. Very, very cool to step inside and see how claustrophobic it was!
Crew members that served upon LST’s referee to them as “Large Slow Target”. Whilst serving in the US Army in 1967 I was trained on LCM-8 and LCU at Ft Eustis, VA .
39:00 - I personally would propose "twin/triple/quad[ruple]/quintuple/etc." for turrets with guns in a common cradle, and "duplex/triplex/quadruplex/quintuplex/etc." for turrets with independently-elevatible guns.
Funny, how I can go through life loving ships and Naval history, yet never connect fo'c'sle to the foward castles of medival ships, of which I've been aware of since a kid. I am truly humbled. Speaking of Medival ships. Drach if you read this; have you done or would you do an episode on the wreck of the White Ship and it's historical ramifications? I believe with your unique style, your take on it would be absolutely compelling. If it would add to a chance you would consider it, this November 25, is the 920th anniversary of the tragic event. A major plus, for me at least, would be you posting a picture of what you believe to be the most accurate portrayal of her, since I will be doing a diorama of the wreck. As always love the channel and the best to you and yours,. With this present nastiness mother nature had released on us, which I certainly hope does not go medival on us. I also wish the same to my fellow Drachinites(?)
In regards to the German/Japanese Naval tech comparison; the IJN DID have some fast and advanced subs; the I 201 and Ha 201. Very comparable to the German Type XXI and XXIII respectively. I love your channel!
dropdead234 pretty much. Both these guns (and the Italian 15” gun) could penetrate *literally* all belt and deck armour ever put on any ship, including the ships that were armed with these guns (yes, by some definitions, the Iowas, Yamatos and Littorios are battlecruisers) Not that this mattered since these classes and their guns were a major case of “pointless and obsolete on launch” (yes even the Iowas), and never got to open up on peer opponents.
Hi Drach. The Martian"s had one advantage you did not mention:- A Flying Machine. ----- Ouch! No Fly swatters on the RN ships. Great Dry dock as usual.
It is night time and covered in fog and smoke so the air advantage seems to not be useful. and the Martians do not seem to have the tech for night vision or radar, which is odd since they do have a nuclear device powering the heat ray and the tripods.
@@RomanHistoryFan476AD Yes. Totally agree. But when the smoke and fog clears in the morning, whatever ships escape from the previous evenings battle, the Martian flying machine can hunt them down. If the Martians can fit a "Heat Ray" to their aircraft.
@@alexingram3782 Don't get me wrong once the day comes back and the fog cleared the flying machine will be king if it is armed with the heat ray. But from all sources i have read it does not have a heat ray only smoke canisters. Maybe the martians did not want to risk the heavy elements getting out if the machine crashed. or adding in the chamber to contain the heavy elements would have made the craft to heavy. Martian Tech does seem weird and counter productive no thermal imaging but they got the ability to project heat rays. Yet again this force they sent was rushed and a desperate last move. so maybe they did not have time to equip the forces well.
Fantastic video as always Drach, always love your work. Thank you for producing such quality stuff. And thank you for answering my questions. I got a little bit of a connection with the Lyon class on a name basis. And so I'm fascinated by them and their predecessors the Normandie class. Then again most ships or ship classes that were never built fascinate me. As far as Vice Admiral Heye, I definitely agree his actions to notify the British how the battle went were well above what was expected of him. And looking at his conduct post war he most definitely was a man of high character quality. Maybe one day someone will do a good book about him. Definitely excited to have you in the States Drach. I've never been to the USS Alabama and I'll be going to the US Naval aviation museum in Pensacola the day after since its relatively close by.
Orient Point Ferry, operating between New London Conn. and Orient Point NY, used LST's for Many Many years until finally switching over to civilian ferries. I loved crossing the Long Island Sound when i was kid...all the passage ways and they would have pictures of the ship as it was during WW2 service. They were huge!
We do know the total number over all of Martian war machines sent to earth which is ten cylinders. Each cylinder could hold five Martians, three or four bipedal martian creatures which served as provisions, five semi-disassembled Tripods, two semi-disassembled Handling Machines, and the materials to build one Flying Machine. or so i could find from the Wiki. We are looking at 50 fighting machines in total invading the UK. I doubt all fifty tripods are out fighting the channel fleet, most of the tripods according to the book stayed to guard London and where engaging British troops in other counties. The height of the Tripods might give them away in the smoke, i do think only a handful of three to four tripods where sent to the coast to slaughter the large horde of fleeing civilians. So with a bit of good luck i like to think the Old Royal Navy got a win in that smoke, be it they paid dearly for it.
31:45 - You DO build a house out of green wood, oak-framed buildings actually require the use of green wood as the drying out process tightens the joints and makes the structure rigid. Only the pegs are seasoned.
@@lostalone9320 Really? There's dozens of houses built like that within a few miles of where I'm sitting, aged from between six months and five centuries. They must be some sort of aberration.
It depends on the kind of Oak. Not all Oak is just Oak. Down here in the southern US, Live Oak is absolutely not a building material. It twists and cracks as it cures and dries.
KitsuneRogue Live oak most definitely is and has been used as a ship-building material. It would be awful for planking or other straight timbers, sure, but if you can cut it (the stuff is hard as rocks), it makes some of the best grown knees and frames you could possibly make out of wood.
lol, Spacedock did a funny worded episode on just such a thing for SciFi spaceships, lol. It would be interesting to hear Drach dance around TH-cam's word demonetization bots describing the poop deck. th-cam.com/video/Zq01ELxfRYg/w-d-xo.html
It has nothing to do with feces believe it or not, its just the roof of the aft cabin being used as a deck, its the highest aft deck and the name "Poop Deck" we got that from the french “la poupe” for Stern. Incidentally the "Head" is where the Age of Sail sailors would go to do their business in the FRONT of the ship, as that position was downwind of the ship's crew due to having the wind blow aft to fore to fill the sails...
The trailer for "Greyhound" is finally out. Due for release in May. With Tom Hanks involved I believe it will be an excellent film. I highly recommend to first read "The Good Shepard" by C.S. Forester, author of the Horatio Hornblower series. This novel is what Tom Hanks wrote the screenplay from. This story is character driven as much as the naval action. Fictional USS Keeling (Greyhound is just a catchy movie title I believe.), a Mahan class DD, was his ship. Convoy escort group, under his command, included a Polish destroyer with a very odd silhouette. She fought well and hard. I very much hope that she's in the movie. Filmed aboard the museum Fletcher class USS Kidd DD-661 and at sea aboard the active Canadian frigate HMCS Montreal. I am REALLY looking forward to this film. th-cam.com/video/SQNDIjrGpS0/w-d-xo.html
An interesting side note regarding the channel battle with the Martians. Would there be issues with heat ray dispersion due to moisture in the air (the haze/mist what have you)? They don't seem to behave like lasers due to being visible and IIRC not instantaneous (at the kind of ranges being discussed here lightspeed throughput air might as well be instantaneous) taking "heat ray" literally implies some form of electromagnetic radiation weapon as opposed to a material one (e.g. a souped-up petrochemical flamethrower).
Also don’t forget the salt water seasoning. Might seem odd but submerging wood in mud at the bottom does some interesting things. The salt water penetration can “dry” wood or something that hardened and stiffens the beams. But can be unpleasant to work.
How many IJN ships were lost because their own torpedoes got blown up; due to fires or direct hits, while they were still in their launchers or carrying space for torpedo reloads?
@@bkjeong4302 Didn't know that. I was just watching a History Guy video about an IJN auxiliary cruiser that was fighting a small corvette and a merchant ship, and the merchant ship's gun landed a lucky hit that set off the auxiliary cruiser's torpedoes. When Drach gets into merchant raiders fighting warships he might mention that battle as there was one real, if small and outgunned, warship involved.
The USS Slater is a Canon DE on display in Albany New York. Might be something worth looking at in the future. It is closed during the winter months but they usually still have volunteers on board and I would be willing to bet they would let you on board for the exposure even out of season. Unfortunately I moved out of that area years ago so I would not be able to help with travel or accommodations
The myth of Australians landing under fire at Gallipoli is a exactly that a myth , the troops got a shore before dawn and got disoriented in the poor light . They also didn't land on the wrong beach , although the beach they did get dropped off on is a mystery as to why for me , a initial day landing at Suva bay maybe would have won the campaign on the first day , but alas .
It's always funny how people in the past imagined advanced civilizations. A martian tripod firing huge fuck-off beam canon but having no real way to aim it except mk1 mars pattern eyeball.
Regarding torpedoes, would it have been possible to put acoustic homing on a long lance torpedo to produce ca killer weapon? I can think of two reasons why it might not have been possible: the acoutic homing being stopped by either the noise generated by the torpedo's engine or by the noise made by the torpedo travelling at high speed through the water.
Mark 48 uses acoustic homing, amongst others... And it is pretty damn fast. This days it's possible. However, during that period electronics were just not good enough. Even Germans had some difficulty with their torpedoes. And also their acoustic homing system had a very short range due to technological limitations of that period.
@@Drachinifel It sure would for me, and I suspect it may get you more first day views. Something like 0900 EDT/1300 UTC would get the Drydock into North American time zones at a reasonable hour while not being too late in Europe. I don't know how everyone else feels though.
Sar Jim - 1300 UDT would be 0800 PDT here. ATP, I could watch it live, provided I could talk a certain someone into foregoing her favorite news station for an hour...
@@TraditionalAnglican According to my UTC calculator, 0800 PDT is 1500 UTC. 1300 UTC would be 0600 PDT. I use the calculator all the time in my ham radio work so I'm pretty confident it's right.
Why did the French go back to a bizarre mixure of Turbine and Triple Expansion engines for the Normandie class. Particulary since they had the dubios honor of having one of the few turbine powered predreadnought series, and were using turbine sets for all following units. I do not really understand that mindset... I mean, Germany tried a mixure of Turbine and Diesel for Prinzregent Luitpold, which would delay her construction so it was cancelled, but at least diesel is a more modern method, but the French go back to older engine technology.
Josy Naemi Köhler though I haven’t done much research into the topic directly, there is a few historical examples of triple expansion engines being retained in other navies for various reasons. Early America dreadnoughts were often built in pairs with one being built for turbine engines, and the other using the older triple expansion system. Indeed, at this period of time with the rapid advancement of technology in general, it was often the case of perfecting the old on its way out, while bringing in the shiny and new, as one worked out the various teething problems in said new toys. Though my general guess would be that since triple expansion is actually more fuel efficient at the time than period turbines, it may have been that the French wanted the best of both worlds of high speed and fuel efficiency using a mixed power plant. Though, knowing the eclectic nature of French naval designers, I’m sure you’re not going to find a coherent thought in their process for a country mile.
Question: If the Soviet Union had build a Project 71/72 carrier, how would it effect WW2? A related question if you'll indulge me, what aircraft were most likely to have flown from its deck?
I read something about a floating drydock sinking while it served Russia's only aircraft carrier (ehum I mean cruiser), the other year, damaging the troubled aircraft carrier further. Don't floating dry docks themselves need drydock service to stay reliably functional? (And I want to warn everyone about the Drydick Museum, it's theme is something completely different.)
Would it have been to allowable under the Washington naval treaty to convert the HMAS Australia to and aircraft carrier and would it have been practicable to do so
I dunno about the heat ray being a one shot two shot weapon on a battleship. The Thunderchild was a torpedo ram it’s not really known what the ship was like armor wise but Torpedo Rams weren’t that well armored. If anything the heat ray did some serious damage to the ship but it continued to fight off three tripods and destroying all three. If I expect a heat ray employed against a pre dread I expect burned paint and deck crew being incinerated but the rate of fire from all the guns would easily take down the Tripods. Hell all that smoke in the distance might just be the exhaust smoke from the battlewagons. I believe that the heat ray is more of an anti personnel weapon.
I've seen two designs for the Lyons, the one in the video and one with fore and aft superfiring pairs, did the French navy decide on a final design and would the second design be more future proof?
Talking about technology comparisons.. Using only the tools and materials at hand what improvements would you do to a trimarene assuming you found your self in that time. I'm thinking better sails more manuverability and elevated protected decks for archers lots of archers.
@@alphapennsylvania9439 with ? Sure some trimarrnes were more advanced than others but again using only materials in that time and finding your self back then. . Lebanese cedar ... jib spinnaker raised protected archers decks a forecastle some kind of fire fighting gear and a group specifically trained in damage control A compass? Long keel grappling gear something along the lines of the 12 meter racing yachts .. speed durability Manuverability instead of these water going highly flammable tanks . Trained crew no slaves pirates
“The Iowa’s guns could achieve an equal, if not superior to Yamato’s”...... Where does this fantasy come from? I have seen every Iowa fan using this argument, and yet Drach has disproved this. Where did this idea come from?
With regard to Lyon's inferior guns compared to what would've been her contemporaries...there was a 1920 design study for Normandie that would've involved completing her with the quad 340mm guns replaced with twin 406mm. If something similar had been done to the Lyon design, 4x2 406mm would've resulted in firepower as good as anything else in service. The turret layout and the armor would've still been inferior to Colorado and Nagato, though.
@@Jfk2Mr Both ships fielded 9x main battery guns with approximately the same rate of fire (at least on paper). Unless you're also including the insane amount of dakka Iowa had in terms of "smaller" caliber guns. Unless, unless, by "hotel" you mean the good ol' french pre-dreadnoughts xD _French Pre-Dreadnoughts - When Hotel's go to War_ th-cam.com/video/9ygXLnRAm-A/w-d-xo.html
@@Lowkeh Even outside paper, neither really had a RoF advantage due to RoF not being that useful for battleships (you have to correct for fall of shot and such, so regardless of RoF you'd be firing less than one salvo per minute)
@@bkjeong4302 Hmh, I thought the one of the main reasons the Royal Navy and their hazardous way of storing ammunition, circumventing various safety-measures prior to (and during) The Battle of Jutland was to increase the rate of fire. Which didn't end well for those battlecruisers(battleship caliber main guns) and in ww2 HMS Hood. I want to recall that after correcting for fall of shot, having the target straddled/bracketed; a more rapid fire, rapid independent, "fire for effect" or other methods with the goal of increased fire rate once the target has been fixed, was in order? Initially, using ranging shots and waiting for gravity to do its thing and observing splashes i can definately see RoF higher than a shell's "flight time" due depending on engagement ranges, not being of importance :o
Will you be visiting the Navy Yard while in Philadelphia? If you're doing the ship visits might as well take in the Navy Yard too. 🤔 As for the virus thing? One or two cases in the region as of today.
On the optical fire control systems, please let me throw in a bit of counter argument saying that the Germans were the ones with the advantage. I always bring up the fact that at the close of WW2, the Russians went so far as to disassemble brick by brick every structure in their area of control. Yes, this included even bricks from buildings that were nothing more than ruins. The sole exception was the the Russian forces were FORBIDDEN from touching the Zeiss Optics facility in any way, or bringing harm to anyone that worked there. Yes, they were instantly put to work making optics for the Soviets. The Soviets wouldn't go through that much effort for second best.
But the British DID have purpose built landing craft at Gallipoli, they were called "X Lighters" (and nicknamed "Black Beetles") and their success at Suvla Bay literally paved the way for the use of landing craft on every amphibious landing since!
Here's more information: www.xlighter.org/ and weaponsandwarfare.com/2018/12/01/x-lighters/
My mistake for considering only the initial landings. Everyone please ensure to look up these early craft.
Interesting that they used heavy oil engines, presumably due to the issues with petrol engines etc that I mentioned in the initial response.
@@Drachinifel Oh, absolutely! I'm sure they drew their inspiration from canal barges, since from 1910 onwards a lot of companies had started installing heavy oil engines on barges which otherwise were too small to carry a steam engine and that had proved massively successful.
Besides, it's not like they had much choice - while two-stroke hot-bulb -paraffin- *EDIT: crude oil* engines might have been crude and underpowered, they were also cheap to make, easy to maintain, worked on low-pressure and didn't need a fiddly electric ignition system like petrol engines. Oh and you weren't about to explode from the fumes either, which was a definite plus...
I mean what else were they going to do? Adopt the Diesel engine like the French (1901) and Germans (1914)? * mock shudder *
@@wingsofwrath4647 'Hot Bulb' engines were not all Paraffin and, seeing as 'Heavy Oil' is mentioned, alongside Bolinders, famous constructors of this type of engine, and Canals, where such engines were taking over from the horse, I suspect that the engines were in fact Semi-Diesels. These burnt, you guessed it, Diesel but at a compression that did not cause it to self ignite, hence the Hot Bulb. Pressures were at a level that machinery used for Steam Engine construction could be used to make them and, at least on canals, a trick from Steam was used, the exhaust was cooled in a condensing chamber connected to the 'back' of the piston, adding 'suck' to 'boom'. The interrupter governor on the E-Series and the Direct Reversing are also rather fun.
Several single-cylinder versions of these wonderful engines are still in use on the canals of Britain and have a distinctive booming note, interrupted in a random manner that makes it sound like the engine is malfunctioning, that carries for some distance. This distinctive sound leads to heads and bodies emerging at speed from all craft in hearing to watch in awe as a member of the canal aristocracy moves serenely past.
www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/Marine/bolinder.htm
@@Drachinifel One thing to consider is that the Gallipoli Campaign did not fail because of the initial landings. While in some places very costly, the initial landings were mostly successful. The problem came *after* the initial beach heads were established. Put quite simply (and quickly), not enough emphasis was placed on getting the troops out of the beach heads and inland as quickly as should have occurred, which gave the Turks ample time to get reinforcements into the area. This then led to the campaign then bogging down into the familiar trench warfare. Once the Turks got blocking forces in that was it, the terrain is hellish from the perspective of soldiers who have to attack it.
There are a multitude of reasons for why Trench warfare occured on the scale it did during WWI, and incompetance of the Generals is not, despite the view of many, a primary factor. Rather the factors are considerably more nuanced. Stagnation of communications technologies meant attacking forces were limited to runners and pigeons (telephone lines laid over no mans land were possible but it was not a case of if they got cut by artillery fire, but when), which meant huge delays in getting information back to attacking commanders. Mobility was seriously curtailed by the fact that traditional cavalry were (generally) obsolete and nothing had yet arisen to replace them, meaning armies could only advance as fast as a man on foot. Specifically for Gallipoli were the facts that the terrain was hellish, but more importantly all the supplies had to be shipped in, and that INCLUDED the all important artillery and artillery ammunition. There was simply not enough specialised shipping or facilities to ship out or offload the huge quantities of artillery ammunition that an Artillery War like WWI (and it WAS an artillery war) required.
Gallipoli was not in and of itself a BAD idea, if it had been conceived in 1944 when maritime supply of large, artillary focussed armies was far better understood, and there was greater availability of specialist equipment vital for such an undertaking.
Mention should also be made of the Russian Black Sea fleet, that built and operated a substantial fleet of dedicated landing craft for their amphibious campaigns against Turkey in particular. The small Bolinder class (1916), named after the semi-diesels that powered them (www.navypedia.org/ships/russia/ru_ls_bolinder.htm) and the later (1918) and larger multi-purpose, steam powered Elipidifor class.
On the subject of Mosquitos on aircraft carriers, 618 squadron (the squadron that had the Highball bouncing bomb) was deployed to the far east theatre for carrier operations, in 1944, for attacks against capital ships. The aircraft were mildly modified, but did not have folding wings. Some of 618 squadron performed a number of actual carrier take offs and landings in training (on HMS Implacable), and the aircraft reportedly performed well. The aircraft were disassembled somewhat and stowed on 2 escort carriers, and the squadron and its aircraft arrived in Melbourne around Xmas 1944. By the time the squadron was ready for action, there were no carriers available to embark them and little left to attack with Highball anyway. The US also opposed their deployment for a number of reasons, and the whole project was pretty much dropped. So there almost were Mosquito carrier operations during WWII.
Another great Sunday for a Drydock episode. I live not far from Evansville. FYI, Fort Knox Kentucky has a preserved LST mock up from WW2. They used it for logistical exercises to determine the best loadouts and boarding/off loading procedures for the rest of the fleet. US Army Materiel Command still owns and operates the sealift museum there.
After the war Australia had a desperate shortage of shipping, but they were keen to establish bases in Antarctica and nearby islands. So they used a LST left over from the war to establish a base on ice covered Heard Island. The journey from Melbourne through the stormy Southern Ocean almost broke the flat bottomed LST's back a few times, but they arrived and set up a base near Antarctica in December 1947. However after the LST made it back to Australia, it was a write off.
Since this got a few likes, here's a link to the record of the Antarctic LST with photos. I can supply more info if Drach or anyone else wants to know more. www.antarctica.gov.au/about-antarctica/history/transportation/shipping/labuan
I'd recommend starting with the channel admin... Mostly because even I tend to watch these over multiple days and as such it would be beneficial to get any announcements and such out of the way as quickly as possible (Plus more people would get to them this way)
One way around that would be to still keep it at the end but include a time stamp to show when it started.
@@bigblue6917 Time stamps are in the description.
Timestamps are great, but just result in me clicking on the channel admin, then re-watching the whole thing. Good experiment, but definitely prefer front-loading that.
Saturday morning coffee , Drydock, working on my plans to make a sub out of Pykrete..
Drydock ventures into British vs Martian naval combat in the English Channel. Are there NO limits to how thorough
Drachinifel's coverage of naval combat are? ;-)
Not-Pinned post for Q&A
Peking and Sack (I think that would be the translation) of Polish Navy in 1939. What could be done better? Also I will hopefully become Patreon in next month.
Why were the italians so succesful at anti submarine warfare in ww2? With so many british submarines sunk by italian destroyers, torpedo boats and corvettes was it mainly because of luck or because the italians as a whole were quite skilled at anti submarine warfare?
This actually came to me in yesterday's video, but there was no pinned post when I watched. Still, the question: Did submarine deck guns need any sort of additional preparation after surfacing to be able to used? Like, say opening the breech to drain water, maybe wiping off some parts so the salt doesn't clog it, etc. And did they need any extra maintenance after being constantly submerged?
@Dylan Raymond Complete the question... The ship docks & is repaired. Now ask the question again. Do you want a German answer or UK answer? 🤔
What is - in your opinion - the most noteworthy exploit of the HMS Emden and its crew during WW1?
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The man does not even have an english wiki page....
saying he deserves more recognition is an understatment :)
With 16 heavy guns the broadside of a Lyon class would have been an awesome thing to see
Depends on were your seeing it from :)
@@andneekey Fair point
@Nguyen Johnathan At least until the guns do malfunction. If the Richelieu was notorious in WW2, I wonder how it would have worked in WW1. Most likely not really well, inaccurate, slow RoF, and prone to malfunctions. Of course... until the enemy circles you with greater range, AND greater speed, while having heavier armor, guns that can penetrate you, but you can not hurt them back.
@@josynaemikohler6572 Richelieu didn't have turret mechanical problems. What it did have was gas shells with a cavity in them which broke up in the barrel when fired with full charges. That was the real issue.
From Evansville and still live relatively close. Will keep listening to see if you stop there in 2021.
How do you manage to keep all this information in your brain... I am staggered and impressed by the breadth and depth of your knowledge. Also, impressed that you use the words 'fewer' and 'less' correctly.
I can't help but feel that upon seeing the success of the Thunderchild, a cry of "set sail for ramming speed, fire at will" would have gone up :)
Battle lines are nice against a known enemy, but this was a almost God-like power that had just been felled by one of your brothers charging in guns firing, seems like a good idea, get in close and either take them out with bow or bullet, beats sitting back and finding out just what the range of the poison gas or death ray actually are 🤷♂️
Thanks for this video, thanks for all the ones you've crunched to keep the upload schedule, and good luck with the USA trip.
If you're in Indiana, then stop by Chicago to see our German mk IX at the science and industry museum.
Yeah! They also have torpedos and some naval AA iirc. Theres tons of really cool stuff there. Amazing museum. It's actually my favorite museum of all, and I get to visit the Wright-Patt National AF Museum which is also pretty epic. Chicago has some reallyyyy good museums
When i was in Chicago working at the refineries around the area that exhibit was one of my first go-to’s on my days off. Very, very cool to step inside and see how claustrophobic it was!
Going straight into question time is an excellent plan
Crew members that served upon LST’s referee to them as “Large Slow Target”.
Whilst serving in the US Army in 1967 I was trained on LCM-8 and LCU at Ft Eustis, VA .
Drach, great work once again. Sure you saw already but Ultimate Admiral age of sail just released on steam!
Now if only they'd hurry up and release Dreadnoughts....
39:00 - I personally would propose "twin/triple/quad[ruple]/quintuple/etc." for turrets with guns in a common cradle, and "duplex/triplex/quadruplex/quintuplex/etc." for turrets with independently-elevatible guns.
Funny, how I
can go through life loving ships and Naval history, yet never connect fo'c'sle to the foward castles of medival ships, of which I've been aware of since a kid.
I am truly humbled.
Speaking of Medival ships.
Drach if you read this;
have you done or would you do an episode on the wreck of the White Ship and it's historical ramifications?
I believe with your unique style, your take on it would be absolutely compelling.
If it would add to a chance you would consider it, this November 25, is the 920th anniversary of the tragic event.
A major plus, for me at least, would be you posting a picture of what you believe to be the most accurate portrayal of her, since I will be doing a diorama of the wreck.
As always love the channel and the best to you and yours,.
With this present nastiness mother nature had released on us, which I certainly hope does not go medival on us.
I also wish the same to my fellow Drachinites(?)
In regards to the German/Japanese Naval tech comparison; the IJN DID have some fast and advanced subs; the I 201 and Ha 201. Very comparable to the German Type XXI and XXIII respectively. I love your channel!
16" vs. 18". "A chicken with its head cut off is different than a chicken with its neck snapped. But does it matter to the chicken?"
dropdead234 pretty much. Both these guns (and the Italian 15” gun) could penetrate *literally* all belt and deck armour ever put on any ship, including the ships that were armed with these guns (yes, by some definitions, the Iowas, Yamatos and Littorios are battlecruisers)
Not that this mattered since these classes and their guns were a major case of “pointless and obsolete on launch” (yes even the Iowas), and never got to open up on peer opponents.
Hurrah for Sunday and a new Drydock vid..... Good Show!
When you are in Falls River, try the The Cove Restaurant & Marina. Good food plus its close to the ships with a view.
Waldo739 it’s “Fall River” - home of the Big Mamie!!
Hi Drach. The Martian"s had one advantage you did not mention:- A Flying Machine. ----- Ouch! No Fly swatters on the RN ships. Great Dry dock as usual.
It is night time and covered in fog and smoke so the air advantage seems to not be useful. and the Martians do not seem to have the tech for night vision or radar, which is odd since they do have a nuclear device powering the heat ray and the tripods.
@@RomanHistoryFan476AD Yes. Totally agree. But when the smoke and fog clears in the morning, whatever ships escape from the previous evenings battle, the Martian flying machine can hunt them down. If the Martians can fit a "Heat Ray" to their aircraft.
@@alexingram3782 Don't get me wrong once the day comes back and the fog cleared the flying machine will be king if it is armed with the heat ray. But from all sources i have read it does not have a heat ray only smoke canisters.
Maybe the martians did not want to risk the heavy elements getting out if the machine crashed. or adding in the chamber to contain the heavy elements would have made the craft to heavy. Martian Tech does seem weird and counter productive no thermal imaging but they got the ability to project heat rays. Yet again this force they sent was rushed and a desperate last move. so maybe they did not have time to equip the forces well.
Fantastic video as always Drach, always love your work. Thank you for producing such quality stuff.
And thank you for answering my questions. I got a little bit of a connection with the Lyon class on a name basis. And so I'm fascinated by them and their predecessors the Normandie class. Then again most ships or ship classes that were never built fascinate me.
As far as Vice Admiral Heye, I definitely agree his actions to notify the British how the battle went were well above what was expected of him.
And looking at his conduct post war he most definitely was a man of high character quality. Maybe one day someone will do a good book about him.
Definitely excited to have you in the States Drach. I've never been to the USS Alabama and I'll be going to the US Naval aviation museum in Pensacola the day after since its relatively close by.
Orient Point Ferry, operating between New London Conn. and Orient Point NY, used LST's for Many Many years until finally switching over to civilian ferries. I loved crossing the Long Island Sound when i was kid...all the passage ways and they would have pictures of the ship as it was during WW2 service. They were huge!
is Jean Barts a 'Two Twin gun turret?
Wait! Only one hour?
How do I survive my Sunday afternoon?
We do know the total number over all of Martian war machines sent to earth which is ten cylinders. Each cylinder could hold five Martians, three or four bipedal martian creatures which served as provisions, five semi-disassembled Tripods, two semi-disassembled Handling Machines, and the materials to build one Flying Machine. or so i could find from the Wiki.
We are looking at 50 fighting machines in total invading the UK.
I doubt all fifty tripods are out fighting the channel fleet, most of the tripods according to the book stayed to guard London and where engaging British troops in other counties. The height of the Tripods might give them away in the smoke, i do think only a handful of three to four tripods where sent to the coast to slaughter the large horde of fleeing civilians. So with a bit of good luck i like to think the Old Royal Navy got a win in that smoke, be it they paid dearly for it.
31:45 - You DO build a house out of green wood, oak-framed buildings actually require the use of green wood as the drying out process tightens the joints and makes the structure rigid. Only the pegs are seasoned.
@@lostalone9320 Really? There's dozens of houses built like that within a few miles of where I'm sitting, aged from between six months and five centuries. They must be some sort of aberration.
It depends on the kind of Oak. Not all Oak is just Oak. Down here in the southern US, Live Oak is absolutely not a building material. It twists and cracks as it cures and dries.
@@KitsuneRogue So you wouldn't be building anything out of Live Oak then, boat or house, seasoned or otherwise?
@@KitsuneRogue If you clamp & kiln it takes a lot of the twist and cracks out.
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Live oak most definitely is and has been used as a ship-building material. It would be awful for planking or other straight timbers, sure, but if you can cut it (the stuff is hard as rocks), it makes some of the best grown knees and frames you could possibly make out of wood.
I'm tempted now to ask a question about "poop" decks, but I think I'll refrain... 😉
lol, Spacedock did a funny worded episode on just such a thing for SciFi spaceships, lol. It would be interesting to hear Drach dance around TH-cam's word demonetization bots describing the poop deck.
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It has nothing to do with feces believe it or not, its just the roof of the aft cabin being used as a deck, its the highest aft deck and the name "Poop Deck" we got that from the french “la poupe” for Stern. Incidentally the "Head" is where the Age of Sail sailors would go to do their business in the FRONT of the ship, as that position was downwind of the ship's crew due to having the wind blow aft to fore to fill the sails...
@@Feiora Actually originally from the Latin - "puppis"
Captain Eric Melrose "Winkle" Brown, CBE, DSC, AFC, Hon FRAeS, RN was a National/International treasure
Only one hour? What the hell will I do with the other 3h I set aside for the drydock?!
Save it up for the once a month Discord drydocks that run four hours?
Interesting fact. Codebreaker Captain Joe Rochefort ended up commanding a floating drydock at the end of WWII.
Discuss drydock in drydock
Nice
Love your videos. I learn more on the internet than in school lol.
The trailer for "Greyhound" is finally out. Due for release in May.
With Tom Hanks involved I believe it will be an excellent film.
I highly recommend to first read "The Good Shepard" by C.S. Forester, author of the Horatio Hornblower series. This novel is what Tom Hanks wrote the screenplay from. This story is character driven as much as the naval action.
Fictional USS Keeling (Greyhound is just a catchy movie title I believe.), a Mahan class DD, was his ship. Convoy escort group, under his command, included a Polish destroyer with a very odd silhouette. She fought well and hard. I very much hope that she's in the movie.
Filmed aboard the museum Fletcher class USS Kidd DD-661 and at sea aboard the active Canadian frigate HMCS Montreal.
I am REALLY looking forward to this film.
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23:24 I would have thought the ships would steam away, and the tripods would walk 😉
Ah! 'All this nonsense floating around in the air at the moment' .. classic - a real keeper. ;o)
wow thats a long answer for my question, thx dude
An interesting side note regarding the channel battle with the Martians. Would there be issues with heat ray dispersion due to moisture in the air (the haze/mist what have you)? They don't seem to behave like lasers due to being visible and IIRC not instantaneous (at the kind of ranges being discussed here lightspeed throughput air might as well be instantaneous) taking "heat ray" literally implies some form of electromagnetic radiation weapon as opposed to a material one (e.g. a souped-up petrochemical flamethrower).
Yea Evansville....
The change is excellent
Also don’t forget the salt water seasoning. Might seem odd but submerging wood in mud at the bottom does some interesting things. The salt water penetration can “dry” wood or something that hardened and stiffens the beams. But can be unpleasant to work.
And what exactly is bad about sounding like you're frum oop no'th? ;-)
Considering my family is from the Lincolnshire/Yorkshire borders, nothing whatsoever :)
Here, they eat round bacon and have a funny French/British accent. Along with a increasing problem with homeless polar bears.
I'm thinking that green wood ships were kind of an earlier version of the concrete ships made for ww1 and ww2.
The Tripods also moved slower as the depth increased.
How many IJN ships were lost because their own torpedoes got blown up; due to fires or direct hits, while they were still in their launchers or carrying space for torpedo reloads?
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There were some, but perhaps the most famous case (Chokai) has been disproven due to her wreck showing no evidence for a torpedo detonation.
@@bkjeong4302 Didn't know that. I was just watching a History Guy video about an IJN auxiliary cruiser that was fighting a small corvette and a merchant ship, and the merchant ship's gun landed a lucky hit that set off the auxiliary cruiser's torpedoes. When Drach gets into merchant raiders fighting warships he might mention that battle as there was one real, if small and outgunned, warship involved.
And here I thought LST stood for Large Slow Target... :)
The USS Slater is a Canon DE on display in Albany New York. Might be something worth looking at in the future.
It is closed during the winter months but they usually still have volunteers on board and I would be willing to bet they would let you on board for the exposure even out of season.
Unfortunately I moved out of that area years ago so I would not be able to help with travel or accommodations
Pass me the pepper, I gotta season that wood
The myth of Australians landing under fire at Gallipoli is a exactly that a myth , the troops got a shore before dawn and got disoriented in the poor light . They also didn't land on the wrong beach , although the beach they did get dropped off on is a mystery as to why for me , a initial day landing at Suva bay maybe would have won the campaign on the first day , but alas .
It's always funny how people in the past imagined advanced civilizations. A martian tripod firing huge fuck-off beam canon but having no real way to aim it except mk1 mars pattern eyeball.
Regarding torpedoes, would it have been possible to put acoustic homing on a long lance torpedo to produce ca killer weapon? I can think of two reasons why it might not have been possible: the acoutic homing being stopped by either the noise generated by the torpedo's engine or by the noise made by the torpedo travelling at high speed through the water.
Mark 48 uses acoustic homing, amongst others... And it is pretty damn fast. This days it's possible. However, during that period electronics were just not good enough. Even Germans had some difficulty with their torpedoes. And also their acoustic homing system had a very short range due to technological limitations of that period.
I might note that you should visit the civil war naval museum in Vicksburg, which has the vessel U.S.S Cairo
"Everybody sinks and drowns....which is NOT good...." - Drach - 2020.
The British did have a plan to fight the tripods(trails off)🤣
Well, rats! The time changed to daylight savings here so it's 5:00 instead of 4:00. But, what the heck, it's all psychological anyway.
Would it help if I release it a few hours later?
@@Drachinifel No, not later. It is just in time to watch it during sunday morning breakfast and coffee.
@@Drachinifel It sure would for me, and I suspect it may get you more first day views. Something like 0900 EDT/1300 UTC would get the Drydock into North American time zones at a reasonable hour while not being too late in Europe. I don't know how everyone else feels though.
Sar Jim - 1300 UDT would be 0800 PDT here. ATP, I could watch it live, provided I could talk a certain someone into foregoing her favorite news station for an hour...
@@TraditionalAnglican According to my UTC calculator, 0800 PDT is 1500 UTC. 1300 UTC would be 0600 PDT. I use the calculator all the time in my ham radio work so I'm pretty confident it's right.
If you get to Portland Oregon the mast of the ship in the dry dock photo, USS Oregon, is in water front park.
Where did you get that image of the Thunder Child from? I looked for it but wasn't able to find it, which is kind of a shame given how awesome it is.
www.deviantart.com/radojavor/art/War-of-the-Worlds-676734064
@@Peter-xl7zm ;
Thanks for the link.
I've been contemplating doing a diorama, since listening to Drachs reading and have not come across this image.
@@Peter-xl7zm Thanks my dude, you're doing god's work
Should the RN not name one of the new frigates planned HMS Cochrane?
had the chance to see Texas this past summer.
Why did the French go back to a bizarre mixure of Turbine and Triple Expansion engines for the Normandie class. Particulary since they had the dubios honor of having one of the few turbine powered predreadnought series, and were using turbine sets for all following units. I do not really understand that mindset...
I mean, Germany tried a mixure of Turbine and Diesel for Prinzregent Luitpold, which would delay her construction so it was cancelled, but at least diesel is a more modern method, but the French go back to older engine technology.
Josy Naemi Köhler though I haven’t done much research into the topic directly, there is a few historical examples of triple expansion engines being retained in other navies for various reasons. Early America dreadnoughts were often built in pairs with one being built for turbine engines, and the other using the older triple expansion system. Indeed, at this period of time with the rapid advancement of technology in general, it was often the case of perfecting the old on its way out, while bringing in the shiny and new, as one worked out the various teething problems in said new toys. Though my general guess would be that since triple expansion is actually more fuel efficient at the time than period turbines, it may have been that the French wanted the best of both worlds of high speed and fuel efficiency using a mixed power plant. Though, knowing the eclectic nature of French naval designers, I’m sure you’re not going to find a coherent thought in their process for a country mile.
The River Clyde turned into a suicide bus for the troops. They were basically massacred.
In describing a Torpedo Ram I was thinking of how that was comparable to a WW-I submarine. The Ram being bigger was more detectable which wasn't good.
Can you cover the Starship U.S.S Enterprise NX01 and its involvement in the alternate future where Germany with Alien support took over the U.S??
Drach time, BEFORE lunch... 1 hour? One BIG mug of coffeee... :)
On average, German subs could dive far deeper than most IJN subs.
Question: If the Soviet Union had build a Project 71/72 carrier, how would it effect WW2? A related question if you'll indulge me, what aircraft were most likely to have flown from its deck?
I read something about a floating drydock sinking while it served Russia's only aircraft carrier (ehum I mean cruiser), the other year, damaging the troubled aircraft carrier further. Don't floating dry docks themselves need drydock service to stay reliably functional? (And I want to warn everyone about the Drydick Museum, it's theme is something completely different.)
Would it have been to allowable under the Washington naval treaty to convert the HMAS Australia to and aircraft carrier and would it have been practicable to do so
I dunno about the heat ray being a one shot two shot weapon on a battleship. The Thunderchild was a torpedo ram it’s not really known what the ship was like armor wise but Torpedo Rams weren’t that well armored. If anything the heat ray did some serious damage to the ship but it continued to fight off three tripods and destroying all three. If I expect a heat ray employed against a pre dread I expect burned paint and deck crew being incinerated but the rate of fire from all the guns would easily take down the Tripods. Hell all that smoke in the distance might just be the exhaust smoke from the battlewagons. I believe that the heat ray is more of an anti personnel weapon.
I've seen two designs for the Lyons, the one in the video and one with fore and aft superfiring pairs, did the French navy decide on a final design and would the second design be more future proof?
Talking about technology comparisons..
Using only the tools and materials at hand what improvements would you do to a trimarene assuming you found your self in that time.
I'm thinking better sails more manuverability and elevated protected decks for archers lots of archers.
really depends on who your with
@@alphapennsylvania9439 with ?
Sure some trimarrnes were more advanced than others but again using only materials in that time and finding your self back then. . Lebanese cedar ... jib spinnaker raised protected archers decks a forecastle some kind of fire fighting gear and a group specifically trained in damage control
A compass? Long keel grappling gear something along the lines of the 12 meter racing yachts .. speed durability Manuverability instead of these water going highly flammable tanks .
Trained crew no slaves pirates
Some British cruisers also had different calibers in the same turret.
Want Kotetsu content the Kotetsu has a super cool story please its an ironclad type ship but it has a cool story
“The Iowa’s guns could achieve an equal, if not superior to Yamato’s”...... Where does this fantasy come from? I have seen every Iowa fan using this argument, and yet Drach has disproved this. Where did this idea come from?
With regard to Lyon's inferior guns compared to what would've been her contemporaries...there was a 1920 design study for Normandie that would've involved completing her with the quad 340mm guns replaced with twin 406mm. If something similar had been done to the Lyon design, 4x2 406mm would've resulted in firepower as good as anything else in service. The turret layout and the armor would've still been inferior to Colorado and Nagato, though.
@Nguyen Johnathan Ah, France. We love them, but their ships are so hit or miss hahaha.
No time-stamped questions? 🤔
The germans were ahead of the japanese in asw technology? Well, and when did they suffer the grave indignity of actually having to use said asw-tech?
Higgins boats were made of plywood
20:12 In war of the Worlds, Martians died of viral attack. Inadequate hygiene and social distancing.
I would keep the admin at the end but time stamp it for those who wished to view it without waiting to reach the end of the video.
So what you’re saying is the Yamato would be more favored by Da’Orkz! (WHAAAAGGH) because it’s Ultra-Mega Overkill Dakka?
I think Orks would choose Iowa over hotel due to prefering volume of firepower over weight of it
@@Jfk2Mr Both ships fielded 9x main battery guns with approximately the same rate of fire (at least on paper).
Unless you're also including the insane amount of dakka Iowa had in terms of "smaller" caliber guns.
Unless, unless, by "hotel" you mean the good ol' french pre-dreadnoughts xD
_French Pre-Dreadnoughts - When Hotel's go to War_
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Mor’ shoota’z fo’ da Boyz ya’ git! Every Ork hasta’ hav ‘imself a shoota’!
@@Lowkeh Even outside paper, neither really had a RoF advantage due to RoF not being that useful for battleships (you have to correct for fall of shot and such, so regardless of RoF you'd be firing less than one salvo per minute)
@@bkjeong4302 Hmh, I thought the one of the main reasons the Royal Navy and their hazardous way of storing ammunition, circumventing various safety-measures prior to (and during) The Battle of Jutland was to increase the rate of fire. Which didn't end well for those battlecruisers(battleship caliber main guns) and in ww2 HMS Hood.
I want to recall that after correcting for fall of shot, having the target straddled/bracketed; a more rapid fire, rapid independent, "fire for effect" or other methods with the goal of increased fire rate once the target has been fixed, was in order?
Initially, using ranging shots and waiting for gravity to do its thing and observing splashes i can definately see RoF higher than a shell's "flight time" due depending on engagement ranges, not being of importance :o
Will you be visiting the Navy Yard while in Philadelphia? If you're doing the ship visits might as well take in the Navy Yard too. 🤔 As for the virus thing? One or two cases in the region as of today.
Totally agree about the Navy Yard.
COuld you please do a piece on USS Oregon?
On the optical fire control systems, please let me throw in a bit of counter argument saying that the Germans were the ones with the advantage. I always bring up the fact that at the close of WW2, the Russians went so far as to disassemble brick by brick every structure in their area of control. Yes, this included even bricks from buildings that were nothing more than ruins. The sole exception was the the Russian forces were FORBIDDEN from touching the Zeiss Optics facility in any way, or bringing harm to anyone that worked there. Yes, they were instantly put to work making optics for the Soviets. The Soviets wouldn't go through that much effort for second best.
Can you make a video on the War of the Pacific?
Much prefer the admin at the end.
Ah, I’ve been there!
Who keeps disliking these videos? If it isn't what you searched for that doesn't make it a bad video!
I wish i could like twice to make up for it
At least your going to save money with all the rides and accommodations when you visit America ^^
hopefully a dinner on the rms queen mary in long beach,ca
Have you done any episodes on icebreakers?
1:00:50 Thanks Drach! In case anyone missed that link... -> lstmemorial.org/
What the heck is the poop deck named for?
is there a USS Long Beach episode? or a CB-1 or CB-2 (alaska class?)
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@@kemarisite thanks
@@kemarisite thanks
So anyone have the discord link? Or know how I can join. I'm going to be trying to look it up after this. But thanks in advance
It's in the video description :)
@@Drachinifel thank you, must have overlooked it.
HMS Hotspur was a better idea... and we all know these rams were to attack the French lol.. just for variety.. Hotspur vs hotel
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It might also have helped if the incompetent British navigating officers had got their beach landing locations correct.