I feel bad about this whole situation, I really enjoyed watching him for years and honestly you can see he’s just super passionate about warmane but has been offsided by certain parts of the community and now he’s declared war against the server. Hopefully he’ll be back one day with a fresh mindset, warmane needs more content creators - but not people milking the whole “warmane is dying” for views.
I remember awbee kicked me for using in his opinion the wrong assassination spec. Then months later he made a "guide" using the same spec. It was fluffys spec and it was solid. Awbee is the loudest and most wrong at the same time
Whitemane servers are nothing more than a fad. They launch with decent numbers because of the custom QoL features but slowly bleed pop over several months because the scripting shows its quality. They tend to bandaid fix literally every problem instead of addressing bugs and just let players skip everything that doesn’t work. Their Cataclysm servers felt like playing a 2010 fun-server. Leveling to max with BG’s in a few years because the leveling zones past 60 were a hot mess. I’m not playing Warmane anymore nor am I interested in Wrath these days, but there’s a reason why they have stayed consistent over the years while all other projects come and go.
Everyone but Fishbro knows that Whitemane servers are notorious for having excessive bugs and bad scripting. On their Cataclysm realms, they mail you a free 60-80 boost with gear when you ding 60. That should tell you everything you need to know.
Only reason whitemane is even on the "map" is because they launched a godawful cataclysm server and all of the classic sheep flooded it immediately to "practice"
no bro, whitemane advertisement is the reason they are on the map, when was the last time you seen an ad for a private server on social media? because that's what whitemane did, they bought ads for shit like instagram and reddit and it got them a lot of attention
Im liking whitemane right now much better than warmane but all pservers suck and everyone who plays them is nearing 50 its childish to see all this shit talking over a 20 year old game
Fish seems really dumb, never heared of this guy befor but in this video you are biased and wrong yourself Funky. First of all you're completely wrong in saying that all private servers fake their online numbers, actually most of them DON'T do that nowadays and you can very easily verify it by using Census AddOn. I wonder why this Addon doesn't work on Warmane. Coincidence? Warmane broke their /who list on purpose by adding some weird delay between /who searches so Census doesn't work properly and it's the ONLY private server I can think of that ever had this problem. These days Warmane is pretty much the only private server (when it comes to known ones) that fakes their online. There was known (and at this point very old) video going around made by OLD Sunwell admin - Xinef in which he proves just how scummy Molten/Warmane is (watch?v=DaD8JNy56zw) and because of this video they broke their /who list and talking about online is taboo on Warmane's forums. Every post mentioning online numbers gets removed and you can easily get banned for bringing it up. This is the ONLY private server that does that. When WotLK Classic released their fake online numbers didn't even move at all while all other servers were hurt by it. When it comes to this Whitemane's new realm I'm not sure how you can say so fast that it's buggy when the server is out for a week and T7 is not even out. There were some bugs that weren't there on Angrathar or Frosthold and they all run on Sunwell Core (what is weird) but nothing too crazy so far. We can only judge it when T7 or even T8 is out, befor that it's unfair to judge anything. It's a common misconception that Warmane has all-around best scripts that is repeated all the time for some reason. Back when Angrathar or Frosthold were around they weren't worse than Warmane in terms of scripting in any way EXCEPT some class mechanics. I remember when I played Warmane first year of Lordaeron and it was an absolute mess of a server with plenty of things broken and the staff kept postponing the release of next content all the time to give themselves more time to fix the bugs so acting like Warmane is good quality is kind of laughable. You can't compare new Wrath private server releases to something like Warmane's Icerown and say shit like "Look, Icecrown is up for years while other servers died off so that proves Icecrown is good and other servers were bad". Those servers were PROGRESSIVE in nature so after 2-3 years their death was INEVITABLE while Icerown is some weird clown fiesta of farming same ICC raid for years as full BiS characters what isn't interesting nor challenging to any sane human being. Just because progressive realm eventually dies off and eventually new server appears that doesn't mean it was absolute garbage if it was up for 2-3 years. Most players actually look forward to "F R E S H" experience on a brand new realm instead of farming ICC 5 days a week on 5 different full BiS characters. Iceclown appeals to COMPLETELY different demography. Adding some custom stuff isn't something entirely new and more and more servers start to do that because if it's done smart it's actually a good addition. I don't see an issue in giving sub-par specs some legendary weapon so they deal a bit more DPS. Ascension WoW is completely different game and not really WoW anymore so you can't compare adding some minute custom stuff to something that's a different game.
Look up dkp minus. Go to Whitemane. Go to wow circle. Go to turtle wow. Go to chromicraft. All their websites claim way higher numbers than actually play. Or they base them off accounts.
Yes I can say that because many servers died off in the last 14 years since I've been playing and they were not Progressive they were in direct competition with warmane.
Ascension is special because it has so many custom scripts and things that have been well flushed out and actually thought through. Adding hp or increasing damage of a boss or adding in weapons or skills that literally break the game is what most other custom servers do and it never works. Ascension actually fixes issues and actively tries to bring things in balance.
I feel bad about this whole situation, I really enjoyed watching him for years and honestly you can see he’s just super passionate about warmane but has been offsided by certain parts of the community and now he’s declared war against the server. Hopefully he’ll be back one day with a fresh mindset, warmane needs more content creators - but not people milking the whole “warmane is dying” for views.
We need more content creators that are going to make guides that are correct
@@Redemptionproject09 great opportunity for you to do exactly that!
@@Menace_oce I've done my guides and tried to steer the community towards the correct ones
@@Redemptionproject09 let it go funky
@@MichealRosa-pj2nv ?
Bruh actually a lot of people when they quit retail like myself go back to warmane!
I remember awbee kicked me for using in his opinion the wrong assassination spec. Then months later he made a "guide" using the same spec. It was fluffys spec and it was solid. Awbee is the loudest and most wrong at the same time
GG Funky, cant stop laughing at this delusionist :S
Whitemane servers are nothing more than a fad. They launch with decent numbers because of the custom QoL features but slowly bleed pop over several months because the scripting shows its quality.
They tend to bandaid fix literally every problem instead of addressing bugs and just let players skip everything that doesn’t work.
Their Cataclysm servers felt like playing a 2010 fun-server. Leveling to max with BG’s in a few years because the leveling zones past 60 were a hot mess.
I’m not playing Warmane anymore nor am I interested in Wrath these days, but there’s a reason why they have stayed consistent over the years while all other projects come and go.
He was logged on to Onyxia lmfao
Looks like hes on Onyxia at a dead time 😂
Everyone but Fishbro knows that Whitemane servers are notorious for having excessive bugs and bad scripting.
On their Cataclysm realms, they mail you a free 60-80 boost with gear when you ding 60. That should tell you everything you need to know.
'They need to look after there players
Only reason whitemane is even on the "map" is because they launched a godawful cataclysm server and all of the classic sheep flooded it immediately to "practice"
no bro, whitemane advertisement is the reason they are on the map, when was the last time you seen an ad for a private server on social media? because that's what whitemane did, they bought ads for shit like instagram and reddit and it got them a lot of attention
Much better then fucking warmane
Theres 2 russian servers that are bigger than warmane.
What is whiteman even 😂
Fuggen old heads
Im liking whitemane right now much better than warmane but all pservers suck and everyone who plays them is nearing 50 its childish to see all this shit talking over a 20 year old game
Most people are rly young nowadays.
@@dvr1337 no u
@@dvr1337true
Fish seems really dumb, never heared of this guy befor but in this video you are biased and wrong yourself Funky.
First of all you're completely wrong in saying that all private servers fake their online numbers, actually most of them DON'T do that nowadays and you can very easily verify it by using Census AddOn. I wonder why this Addon doesn't work on Warmane. Coincidence? Warmane broke their /who list on purpose by adding some weird delay between /who searches so Census doesn't work properly and it's the ONLY private server I can think of that ever had this problem. These days Warmane is pretty much the only private server (when it comes to known ones) that fakes their online. There was known (and at this point very old) video going around made by OLD Sunwell admin - Xinef in which he proves just how scummy Molten/Warmane is (watch?v=DaD8JNy56zw) and because of this video they broke their /who list and talking about online is taboo on Warmane's forums. Every post mentioning online numbers gets removed and you can easily get banned for bringing it up. This is the ONLY private server that does that. When WotLK Classic released their fake online numbers didn't even move at all while all other servers were hurt by it.
When it comes to this Whitemane's new realm I'm not sure how you can say so fast that it's buggy when the server is out for a week and T7 is not even out. There were some bugs that weren't there on Angrathar or Frosthold and they all run on Sunwell Core (what is weird) but nothing too crazy so far. We can only judge it when T7 or even T8 is out, befor that it's unfair to judge anything. It's a common misconception that Warmane has all-around best scripts that is repeated all the time for some reason. Back when Angrathar or Frosthold were around they weren't worse than Warmane in terms of scripting in any way EXCEPT some class mechanics. I remember when I played Warmane first year of Lordaeron and it was an absolute mess of a server with plenty of things broken and the staff kept postponing the release of next content all the time to give themselves more time to fix the bugs so acting like Warmane is good quality is kind of laughable.
You can't compare new Wrath private server releases to something like Warmane's Icerown and say shit like "Look, Icecrown is up for years while other servers died off so that proves Icecrown is good and other servers were bad". Those servers were PROGRESSIVE in nature so after 2-3 years their death was INEVITABLE while Icerown is some weird clown fiesta of farming same ICC raid for years as full BiS characters what isn't interesting nor challenging to any sane human being. Just because progressive realm eventually dies off and eventually new server appears that doesn't mean it was absolute garbage if it was up for 2-3 years. Most players actually look forward to "F R E S H" experience on a brand new realm instead of farming ICC 5 days a week on 5 different full BiS characters. Iceclown appeals to COMPLETELY different demography.
Adding some custom stuff isn't something entirely new and more and more servers start to do that because if it's done smart it's actually a good addition. I don't see an issue in giving sub-par specs some legendary weapon so they deal a bit more DPS. Ascension WoW is completely different game and not really WoW anymore so you can't compare adding some minute custom stuff to something that's a different game.
Well this is going to take multiple responses but every private server does fake their numbers
Those add-ons do not work like they should trust me I've ran them before and they just don't work
Look up dkp minus. Go to Whitemane. Go to wow circle. Go to turtle wow. Go to chromicraft. All their websites claim way higher numbers than actually play. Or they base them off accounts.
Yes I can say that because many servers died off in the last 14 years since I've been playing and they were not Progressive they were in direct competition with warmane.
Ascension is special because it has so many custom scripts and things that have been well flushed out and actually thought through. Adding hp or increasing damage of a boss or adding in weapons or skills that literally break the game is what most other custom servers do and it never works. Ascension actually fixes issues and actively tries to bring things in balance.