Another great video John. Very much my stomping ground walking in to city from Earlham Road. What a tragic loss the hippodrome was, and couldn’t have been an uglier replacement. But many lovely buildings have thankfully survived.
Thanks Simon - yes, little has changed over time other than around the Hippodrome. I have a video soon about Upper St Giles, Cow Hill and Willow Lane, and even less has changed there.
Very weird that I am watching this whilst staying the night at the St Giles House Hotel - one of the number of stunning buildings which still line this street.
Thanks for the video John! I was interested in the sign at 1:47 "Morgenrot - The Film London Was Afraid To Show" and a quick search found this pertinent information: "Right from the film's premiere in Berlin, British newspapers gave Morgenrot extensive coverage, with the film being criticised for its unflattening picture of the Royal Navy. The film was debated in the House of Commons after a Tory backbencher, Sir Charles Cayzer, demanded that the Foreign Office have the ambassador in Berlin, Sir Horace Rumbold, make an official protest against Morgenrot, saying the film was very disrespectful and insulting towards Britain. The prime minister, Ramsay MacDonald, was unwilling to have such a protest and the Foreign Secretary, Sir John Simon, found himself during the debates in the House of Commons "...in the rather odd position of having to defend a Nazi film""
Thank you so much John. As always a great treat. I noticed the incomplete wing of the City Hall. I've been told that at the time of building a wing was planned on the St Giles side to match the Bethel Street police station wing but for some reason it was never completed.
Another classic then and now video, I have seen a couple of nice wartime photos of what is now the tattoo parlour, showing bomb damage, from air raids. There used to be a plaque somewhere close to the carpark, that mentioned a young Cary Grant performing in the Opera house in his young days. I used to walk up to the bookshop whenever I was in the city, back in the day when we all read actual hard copy books. Keep them coming John.
Hi John,another great posting,regarding number 19 St Giles Street,I’ve checked in a 1933 Kelly’s directory and the initials on the blind are M.S.A.,it stood for M.S Atkins ,who were makers and sellers of gowns and millinery.
Hi aww brilliant you done st Giles Street. My boss owns number 7 to 9 and the jewellery shops tillites. And a few others around that way. I'm now in 9a our salon is the bits above the tatto shop and the cake shop. They are now doing out the top floor now . Brilliant video
@@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich You're welcome, John. And yes, it would be great to be able to see the city as it was. Thanks for all your videos. I really enjoy them.
Another great video if our Fine City but could you linger on the photos for a few more seconds each? Sometimes the moving on to the next photo is too quick to appreciate the previous one, particularly in the case of somewhere that has changed dramatically over the years like Grapes Hill.
Thanks Scott, I've been asked that before, quite recently, so in future videos I am trying to do that without dragging things out. Thanks for your comment.
I went to the Hippodrome to see Goldilocks and the Three Bears pantomime, must have been late fifties, but I'm certain that they had real bears on the stage - ! 😮
Thank you. I use software called filmora to make the videos, and crop pictures as necessary to try and match up. Often I have to revisit, because the only way to get it 100% accurate I guess would be to stand in the same place with the same camera as the original photographer!
Thank you for another very interesting video. It would appear that the remaining older buildings are not as old as in some other parts of the city, apart from St Giles Church, of course. Do you know what would have been in that area prior to that?
I believe I read somewhere that it might originally have been an extension to the market place. Older buildings seem to be around the church in Willow Lane/Cow Hill/Upper St Giles which will be the subject of a future video.
The St.Giles end of the City Hall was due to be extended to match the Bethel St. wing, but obviously with WW2 and later austerity, it never happened. But until a few years ago, the RSJs intended for the extension could still be seen protruding from this end.
So let me get this straight, Norwich had a Grande Opera House...but now has a Big Car Park? Is this progress? I suppose people got to park, but really!? What bureaucratic vandal signed that off...🤨
Regarding the building on the corner of Bethel St and St Giles seen at 3:53 in 1968, does anyone know what happened to this building and why it was demolished?
Thanks for your comment. Interesting question. I don't know the answer, but hopefully someone reading this may know. Possibly it was done when the link road from the roundabout was done, as the area would I imagine have become busier with cars.
@@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich I first went to the Waffle House in 1978 as a poor sixth-former - you could take your own cheap wine as they couldn’t get a licence for years - something of an institution - great series John - fascinating stuff
In the Sixties, when I was looking for a bedsit to rent, I stayed at the YMCA for a couple of weeks. "Basic" and "spartan" pretty well describe it, and there were some rum characters residing there. I think The Raven was one of the half-dozen or so pubs that had "Market Hours" on Saturdays, when they closed for an hour or so after about 4 p.m. (usual time 3 p.m.), thus allowing a bit of time for shopping on the market before rejoining the pub scene, funds permitting.
@@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich You're welcome. The "Market Hours" pubs were great, but occasionally, when The Canaries were at home to certain clubs, it got a bit hectic when drink was taken. Although they could keep a close eye on things from Bethel Street station I think the police pushed to have them abolished, but then, of course, we got all-hours drinking in 2005 for everyone.
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Another great video John. Very much my stomping ground walking in to city from Earlham Road. What a tragic loss the hippodrome was, and couldn’t have been an uglier replacement. But many lovely buildings have thankfully survived.
Thanks Simon - yes, little has changed over time other than around the Hippodrome. I have a video soon about Upper St Giles, Cow Hill and Willow Lane, and even less has changed there.
Thanks for this. I can see our house. We are in the process of renovating one of the houses on St Giles
Excellent!
These are really fascinating. Keep up the great work!
Thank you, glad you're enjoying them. Much appreciated.
Very weird that I am watching this whilst staying the night at the St Giles House Hotel - one of the number of stunning buildings which still line this street.
Very weird indeed!
Thanks for the video John! I was interested in the sign at 1:47 "Morgenrot - The Film London Was Afraid To Show" and a quick search found this pertinent information:
"Right from the film's premiere in Berlin, British newspapers gave Morgenrot extensive coverage, with the film being criticised for its unflattening picture of the Royal Navy. The film was debated in the House of Commons after a Tory backbencher, Sir Charles Cayzer, demanded that the Foreign Office have the ambassador in Berlin, Sir Horace Rumbold, make an official protest against Morgenrot, saying the film was very disrespectful and insulting towards Britain. The prime minister, Ramsay MacDonald, was unwilling to have such a protest and the Foreign Secretary, Sir John Simon, found himself during the debates in the House of Commons "...in the rather odd position of having to defend a Nazi film""
Thank you so much for investigating and adding those details. That's great 👍
Thank you, John. My father who was not a well paid man booked a 'box' at the Hippodrome. Charlie Chester was on the bill.
Thank you Sam - that's a great bit of additional info - always good to have such details!
Thank you so much John. As always a great treat. I noticed the incomplete wing of the City Hall. I've been told that at the time of building a wing was planned on the St Giles side to match the Bethel Street police station wing but for some reason it was never completed.
Thanks Peter. Yes, I believe that's right - and I also have a feeling that the police station might have been extended in the 1960s.
Another classic then and now video, I have seen a couple of nice wartime photos of what is now the tattoo parlour, showing bomb damage, from air raids. There used to be a plaque somewhere close to the carpark, that mentioned a young Cary Grant performing in the Opera house in his young days. I used to walk up to the bookshop whenever I was in the city, back in the day when we all read actual hard copy books. Keep them coming John.
Thank you Dave, and thanks for sharing all those memories.
Oh wow that was so interesting thanks John again for a great video ❤
Thanks very much Richard 👍
Hi John,another great posting,regarding number 19 St Giles Street,I’ve checked in a 1933 Kelly’s directory and the initials on the blind are M.S.A.,it stood for M.S Atkins ,who were makers and sellers of gowns and millinery.
Ah brilliant, thank you, maybe a relation of mine!
Another lookup for you John!
@@kanarykev indeed
Excellent. Thank you.
Thanks very much for your comment.
Hey John! Great video! You really do you research!
Thank you! I try....
Hi aww brilliant you done st Giles Street. My boss owns number 7 to 9 and the jewellery shops tillites. And a few others around that way. I'm now in 9a our salon is the bits above the tatto shop and the cake shop. They are now doing out the top floor now . Brilliant video
Thanks Anita, and thanks also for the idea of doing St Giles
@@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich I really like now working on st Giles been about 8 months now. Its a nice place to work
@@MsAnitawilson I'm not surprised 👍
Yet another fascinating and wonderful video, John. St Giles is a lovely street. It's a shame that some fabulous buildings were demolished.
Thanks so much for your comment. Yes, it would have been great to have seen it for real years ago.
@@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich You're welcome, John. And yes, it would be great to be able to see the city as it was. Thanks for all your videos. I really enjoy them.
@@pmcfarlane7660 thank you 👍
Another great video if our Fine City but could you linger on the photos for a few more seconds each? Sometimes the moving on to the next photo is too quick to appreciate the previous one, particularly in the case of somewhere that has changed dramatically over the years like Grapes Hill.
Thanks Scott, I've been asked that before, quite recently, so in future videos I am trying to do that without dragging things out. Thanks for your comment.
Gladstone House/Club, the home of my first love, Sheila!!
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I went to the Hippodrome to see Goldilocks and the Three Bears pantomime, must have been late fifties, but I'm certain that they had real bears on the stage - ! 😮
Brilliant! Great story. 👍
I was hoping to hear some history of the Courage Noble barbers store but it seems to be missed out...
Sorry I didn't have any old photos or info about it, though it can just be seen next to no53.
The dad of a pal ran the Raven back in the early sixties. He must have been doing well as he drove a Bentley - ! 😅
Pretty impressive 😊
Your lining up of photos has greatly improved...Do you use any special app or just practice/comparing a print out photo in hand? Thanks
Thank you. I use software called filmora to make the videos, and crop pictures as necessary to try and match up. Often I have to revisit, because the only way to get it 100% accurate I guess would be to stand in the same place with the same camera as the original photographer!
Now I know why number 7 has plaques of William caxton and Daniel Defoe.
Very true! Thanks Geoff.
Thank you for another very interesting video. It would appear that the remaining older buildings are not as old as in some other parts of the city, apart from St Giles Church, of course. Do you know what would have been in that area prior to that?
I believe I read somewhere that it might originally have been an extension to the market place. Older buildings seem to be around the church in Willow Lane/Cow Hill/Upper St Giles which will be the subject of a future video.
The St.Giles end of the City Hall was due to be extended to match the Bethel St. wing, but obviously with WW2 and later austerity, it never happened. But until a few years ago, the RSJs intended for the extension could still be seen protruding from this end.
That's fascinating, thanks for adding that, Simon.
So let me get this straight, Norwich had a Grande Opera House...but now has a Big Car Park? Is this progress? I suppose people got to park, but really!? What bureaucratic vandal signed that off...🤨
Yes it feels really sad, but I guess if the opera House had been supported back then it might have survived.
Regarding the building on the corner of Bethel St and St Giles seen at 3:53 in 1968, does anyone know what happened to this building and why it was demolished?
Thanks for your comment. Interesting question. I don't know the answer, but hopefully someone reading this may know. Possibly it was done when the link road from the roundabout was done, as the area would I imagine have become busier with cars.
This is all grand stuff but not even a mention for the Waffle House? Speechless!
So sorry, guilty as charged! Just didn't have any old pics or info.
@@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich I first went to the Waffle House in 1978 as a poor sixth-former - you could take your own cheap wine as they couldn’t get a licence for years - something of an institution - great series John - fascinating stuff
@@hctwj801 it certainly is an institution and really should have featured in the video.
Thank you for another wonderful video.
Fascinating as always.
Thanks very much, I'm glad you enjoyed it 👍
In the Sixties, when I was looking for a bedsit to rent, I stayed at the YMCA for a couple of weeks. "Basic" and "spartan" pretty well describe it, and there were some rum characters residing there. I think The Raven was one of the half-dozen or so pubs that had "Market Hours" on Saturdays, when they closed for an hour or so after about 4 p.m. (usual time 3 p.m.), thus allowing a bit of time for shopping on the market before rejoining the pub scene, funds permitting.
Thanks very much for adding those great details.
@@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich You're welcome. The "Market Hours" pubs were great, but occasionally, when The Canaries were at home to certain clubs, it got a bit hectic when drink was taken. Although they could keep a close eye on things from Bethel Street station I think the police pushed to have them abolished, but then, of course, we got all-hours drinking in 2005 for everyone.
@@InArcadiaSum fascinating! Thanks.