Shimane Tatara

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  • @DanielCauble
    @DanielCauble 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Amazing. Participating, studying and practicing smelting here in the U.S....Would love to be a guest there one day.

    • @tamahaganearts
      @tamahaganearts  9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks Daniel. We used to participate in a Tatara created at the University of Minnesota; but the professor running them has since retired. Kihari himself came from Japan to run one of the early sessions himself. We've followed your progress through some of the content you've posted, under the right conditions I'm sure Kihara would love to visit Texas sometime;)

    • @DanielCauble
      @DanielCauble 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tamahagane Arts
      Make that North Carolina and you have a deal! ;)

    • @AlanMolstad
      @AlanMolstad 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tamahagane Arts
      I was there with you at the Minnesota event, and I always wanted to know if you have any other things going on in the future?

    • @RicFurrer
      @RicFurrer 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kihara-San came to Minneapolis in 2004 for two weeks. It was very good to see him work.

    • @nickkoulouriotis8205
      @nickkoulouriotis8205 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      awesome work 👍🏻.ok but what happens.to the rest of the steel?

  • @killmimes
    @killmimes 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This to me (an old navy Foundryman) is Magic!

  • @wolfhawaii1
    @wolfhawaii1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The bellows is a man powered treadle like a teeter totter kind of thing......surprised it was not shown.

    • @tamahaganearts
      @tamahaganearts  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The bellows in Shimane are in a separate building, but the tatara in Nimi has bellows powered by humans.

  • @benjaminbays7427
    @benjaminbays7427 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Approximately how much money does this amount of Tamahagane sell for (how much per kilogram, and how much steel does this process yield)?

    • @jonecuntapay9561
      @jonecuntapay9561 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      a grand us dollar depending of the quality of the wholy finished tamahagane result

    • @sankyu3950
      @sankyu3950 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Estimated probably 50k or 55k which is way dam more then steel or iron only cause the way they have to make it in 3 days without losing heat or restart and the fact they have to pick the right spot or the material either is too bristle or too soft

    • @joshschneider9766
      @joshschneider9766 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Black sand ore in Japan is often volcanic in origin with lots of grace materials that benefit smelting. It's very good metal as a result.

    • @tamahaganearts
      @tamahaganearts  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Short answer is if your being presented Tamahagane to buy it probably wasn't made here, licensed sword smiths in Japan have access to top grades and it goes down to knife makers beyond that. Buying it as an outsider simply means you have a good relationship with the right person.

  • @titan133760
    @titan133760 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is it true that there are currently only licensed tamahagane makers in japan?

    • @jonecuntapay9561
      @jonecuntapay9561 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      only in shimane prefecture is the remaining old skool smelter(shown in the video) place in the country.

  • @joshschneider9766
    @joshschneider9766 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Man it's ironic. Id pay to work all three days and consider it a form of tourism lol. Well done indeed.

    • @epicon6
      @epicon6 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The master who is in charge of this process often doesn't sleep or speels very little untill it's finished and it can take from 36-72 hours

    • @tamahaganearts
      @tamahaganearts  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same goes for everyone lucky enough to participate and the work is actually proceeds and extends beyond the 3 days quite a bit. You can view part of it as tourist through the Hitachi Corp, but to actually participate requires years of training and understanding so as not ruin the end result.

  • @mooneyes2k478
    @mooneyes2k478 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Small problem...it's a smelting processs, not a sintering one.

    • @tamahaganearts
      @tamahaganearts  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      ***** Things are often mislabeled before they are fully understood. That subtle knowledge doesn't always result in a name change.

    • @mooneyes2k478
      @mooneyes2k478 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Tamahagane Arts Ooooo-kay. Yeah. Right. Be that as it may...this is a fairly well-defined process.

    • @tamahaganearts
      @tamahaganearts  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      And getting better defined every day.

  • @PureAeternum
    @PureAeternum 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    how often do they do they do this? every week? month? day to day?

    • @jonecuntapay9561
      @jonecuntapay9561 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yearly only. it takes to 3 full days to smelt in a tatara according to kihara-san's teacher(the former murage in shimane before he took over the role).

    • @davidslefort6541
      @davidslefort6541 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      No they do has much as possible your wrong cause the demand of jewl steel is in great demand the community of sword making master are asking for the greatest pure tamahagane steel it's the most important part of Japan katana making

    • @scottwpilgrim
      @scottwpilgrim 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@davidslefort6541 No sir. Tamahagane isn't widely used anymore, and the few licensed tamahagane company just need to make enough to sell to the even fewer Japanese sword smiths in the country. One slab 3m by 1m is enough for a year.
      Aside from the few chefs knives they make for collectors, tamahagane is far inferior compared to the rolled steel that's mass produced worldwide.

    • @tamahaganearts
      @tamahaganearts  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Abe was great and Horio will also be great if he takes over after Kihara.

    • @tamahaganearts
      @tamahaganearts  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Annual and everything is tightly controlled by the ministry to ensure quality and demand are maintained.

  • @bobbyfoster8367
    @bobbyfoster8367 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is truly a lost art

    • @credinzel6996
      @credinzel6996 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bobby Foster Pretty much everything 500 years ago can be considered a lost art.

    • @thespokenword6456
      @thespokenword6456 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It clearly isn't lost- there it is, right now!

    • @tamahaganearts
      @tamahaganearts  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Its the only unbroken sword making tradition in the world and it hangs on by a a thread.

  • @tyrander1652
    @tyrander1652 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does anyone know what they are using for a bellows? It is rhythmic, so it is not an electric blower.

    • @coalsauce4457
      @coalsauce4457 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i think its a few large fuigos

  • @keitholdbean3173
    @keitholdbean3173 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why don't they use a real furnace ?

    • @brandonwilson5319
      @brandonwilson5319 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The only iron ore Japan has is ironsand. Sand does not work well in bloomeries or blast furnaces because it gets blown around by the air blast. Using a wider, open furnace gets around this problem by dispersing the flow.

    • @prayogi5396
      @prayogi5396 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Are you kidding, they have the best furnance.

    • @jonajo9757
      @jonajo9757 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@prayogi5396 Nah, nah...

    • @tamahaganearts
      @tamahaganearts  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The height of the tatara, the shape at the bottom, the sintering process of the materials with the interrupted cycle of air from the bellows all produce an ideal environment for a very specific product and I have never seen the same quality material produced in any other smelting process.... but by no means does that mean it's pure, its jewelled steel... Tamahagane

    • @killmimes
      @killmimes 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      A little thing called TRADITION.

  • @名無しの権兵衛-z3c
    @名無しの権兵衛-z3c 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Blacksmith。炭で顔が真っ黒になるから?

  • @Borz-RAI
    @Borz-RAI 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am the real TATARA