After having been on uncomfortable buses stuck in downtown traffic, with no AC during deadly heat waves, for sometimes two hours at a time, I can say that the REM is the best thing to have happened for our transit in my lifetime.
Considering the buses were always fucking getting stuck in traffic even on the bridge, yeah, the REM will be a life saver to get to downtown (and later further). When the airport station is up and running, it will be amazing to get to it without a friggin' car from the south shore. I also hope they now get rid of the bus lanes toward Robert-Bourassa that all the jerks were using to get around traffic unpunished.
@@marztecheque Snow doesn't seem to be much of an issue following this testing past winter, thankfully. It's a whole other story with lots of freezing rain. If the forecast calls for lots of "verglas", I will be working from home, thank you very much!
@@kennethschlegel870 In Toronto, there’s a section of road going to downtown Toronto that’s always busy, with a subway track running in parallel next to the road. They’ve got ads aimed at drivers stuck in traffic pointing exactly that out with statements like ‘wish you had taken the TTC?’
THIS is what mass transit should be. Rapid and frequent - unlike the bus-on-rails tram system Edmonton is building with its slow speed, limited capacity and max 5min peak frequency. (Every 5min vs every 90 sec is a world a difference). Good job, Montreal!!
If it's 5min on one branch I don't care, but 5 minute peak is just not enough. 2 minute headways are possible with every metro and human drivers, shorter headways as well with buses, trams or automated metro
In fairness to Edmonton though. They already have their own rapid transit in the form of the Metro and Capital Lines. If they wanted the valley line to be that, they would have built the Valley line to those same standards. The valley isn’t meant to be like REM or the ETS Legacy Light rail, it was meant to provide a much stronger local connection, especially through downtown Edmonton
@@metrofilmer8894 I actually feel like Calgary's new green line should be built like a metro with dedicated right of way instead of an on-street tram, as current C-trains slowly crawl through downtown on the street, especially considering green line will eventually connect to the airport
@@metrofilmer8894 The Metro line is not rapid at all. Both it and the capital line are limited in frequencies. For a city that wants people to take transit why limit capacity. For the valley line for example, of every TOD is built out, there will be no room on the train by the time it gets to Bonnie Doon. Tram lines should connect to rapid services. Not try and be the rapid service.
Very nice. Also, find it interesting how Americans always say transit built down highway right of ways is doomed, but then Canada builds it time and time again with solid density all around.
I'm not sure about other highway rail projects in Canada but the ones shown here are fully enclosed which probably makes waiting for the train less noisy. The ones in LA are fully exposed to the noise coming from the highway. Plus the stations are placed right next to highway off ramps which can make the pedestrian experience uncomfortable.
Canada still has major issues. REM East was completely cancelled cause a small group of NIMBYs didn't want elevated metro "destroying" their boring low density suburbs. Toronto also cannot build elevated rail due to the same nimbys.
This is very impressive! Also makes me sad that U.S. cities (like Boston only 300 miles from this) could never build a fully automated metro at this scale, this quickly. Instead it took Boston 20+ years to build 6 miles of manually-operated light rail. Working in the transit industry in the U.S. is just depressing...
This project appears to use the center of a highway median for most of it's right of way. That definitely helped keep construction cost and issues low. Not sure how accessible the stations will be in the long term though as highway stations don't encourage TOD growth.
You’re comparing apples and oranges. Montreal has a metro system that isn’t automated just like Boston’s, this is just a new service layered on top of the metro. Also this was a completely new system, seperate from the metro. You are yet another armchair urbanism that doesn’t know what they’re talking about.
@ronnyrueda5926 There are new higher-density mixed-use developments around some stations already. They started development while the REM was being built. The Panama station, however, is connected to the bus terminal serving the surrounding low and medium density boroughs. Around that station, the rails are replacing isolated bus lanes on the highway. On the bright side, the Panama station is also right beside the Taschereau "Boulevard", a stroad really, that the city of Brossard is going to replace with an actual boulevard, medium density, mixed use buildings, significantly reduced or eliminated parking lots, fewer lanes for cars, a new tram and protected bike lanes. The REM is making that project even more attractive.
I'm finally going to ride this train today, with the hopes it will soon be a reality next year in the West Island. This is the Metro we have been wanting forc 30 years, delayed by politics and bad decisions until now.
This is incredible! Congratulations to my favorite city in Canada (Montreal) for creating a beautiful new system like this!! How do the stations look? I wanna get a good glimpse of them myself!
The stations are bright (at least in the day, haven’t seen them at night) and very nice looking, lots of wood and glass. But I can see how people might think they’re boring since they don’t have the “different artists designed every metro station” thing that the metro did. However, the REM stations have the major advantage of platform screen doors, and it’s shocking how much of an improvement that makes to the stations.
@@weatheranddarkness what you mean ? it look ugly like azure metro train if you mean the station ok yeah metro station are more original, but at least in rem you are not stuck in dark tube
I was seeing a version of this video this morning during the Saturday "open house". I was on the first train out at 9am from Gare Centrale. Riding out in the open after a life riding our metro system (as great as it is) was breathtaking. And that pass between the bridge suspension cables was fantastic. I also spotted Reece while walking up to the return train from Brossard. You're taller than I expected, Reece!
God, seeing this makes me miss living in Montreal all the more. I used to live right near where the proposed Griffintown station's supposed to go; every day walking to work in the year I lived there, I saw them working upon the tracks and putting up the wires and all. With the work permit's expiration, I couldn't live there anymore, but y'know how it goes. Can still see the building where I lived from this video.
I visited all stations over the weekend. They are generally quite good. Not fancy, but gets the job done. Fluid and bright. My two favourites are Panama and Du Quartier. At Panama, the station is between the lanes of highway 10. So they build a large underpass under the highway and on the North side it’s a short distance to a brand new bus terminal for local transit. On the south side, a pedestrian/bike lanes that lead in minutes to a popular mall here. At Du Quartier (station nearest to my house), it’s connected on the North side to a TOD district named Solar and on the south side it goes to the (in)famous Quartier Dix-30, a large commercial “car-oriented” district. But which I use often anyways.
I’d like to see some aerial footage around these stations. Given they’re mostly built along the highway I wonder how much foot traffic some of those stations will draw
Some TOD is already developed; Solar Uniquartier north of Du Quartier. Some areas are ripe for development; parking lots in between Du Quartier and DIX30 mall, surrounding areas at Panama.
Nice system. The transport oriented development at Du Quartier 😜👍 Are there any plans to (re)develop the (industrial) zones between Gare Centrale and Iles des Sœurs? An (elevated?) infill station is being built on that stretch?
Yes, the Griffintown station will be added sometime in 2024 or later. However, some people are requesting an additional station in the industrial part of the Pointe-Saint-Charles neighbourhood, which has a lot of potential for redevelopment. Only time will tell if it happens!
@@laurentfortier5442 the industrial part of The Point is actually one of the few industrial areas in the core that is still used as such. It would be good if there were a stop just this side of the river though giving access to the school Monseigneur Richard and the long park all along Verdun.
Montreal has a history of building great rapid transit train systems. Ottawa's O (occasional) Train on the other hand, is in the middle of another 3 week shut down because of mechanical issues, it's prone to derailments, it breaks down when there's freezing rain (yea, who knew we'd get freezing rain in Ottawa, right? 🙄), and, AND the planned service from the international airport doesn't even go directly downtown. That's right, you'll have to transfer to another train to get to downtown Ottawa. What a joke. What an embarrassment. But congratulations to Montreal on the REM, well done!
For a while, the most "expensive" seats (French expression for "harder to get") will be those at the front window...😅 We had the same effect during the opening of Meteor (M14) in 98 in Paris. And it is always the case, even on the M1 or the M4.😄
When I see that REM running right in the middle of the Champlain Bridge, it disappoints me how NY’s idiotic governor at the time dismissed the possibility of building a branch of the heavy rail Metro North Railroad over the new Tappan Zee Bridge that was being built between Westchester and Rockland Counties, citing that it was not feasible. It would’ve provided a one-seat train ride from Rockland (and possibly further northern counties west of the Hudson River) to Manhattan’s Grand Central Station.
I'll get the opportunity to ride next weekend and I'm so exited! 😁 My family lives on the south shore, and driving 20 mins to come pick me up at the Brossard station is so much less hassle than having to time for infrequent busses that cost 3x a REM ticket!
This mass transit is absolutely fabulous! I actually was saying over the voice over for the stations outbound, "Chanel, Lagerfeld, Gautier, Givenchy" and inbound, "Gautier, Lagerfeld, Chanel, Gare Centrale." 😁 Those are the names of four clothing designers recited by Joanna Lumley as Patsy Stone in a remix version of the Pet Shop Boys' "Absolutely Fabulous".
I have to admit, "Du Quartier" is a weird name for French speakers. It literally translates to "of/from the neighbourhood", and even if it's probably not intended for that, in French it becomes "la station du quartier", so "the neighbourhood's station" which could be potentially confusing in French, depending on the context. Aside from that, I'm so glad to see new projects coming to life and how it will change the city !
Mayor Ciao Chow is gonna turn it into a giant homeless shelter now. You know what they say about a "good" suit of armor - you're only as strong - as your weakest *chink*
Very excited to use this system. However, as always in this province, they make it inaccessible. It’s 8$ back/forth if you wanna go to Dix30 (and you don’t have OPUS for those two zones), they removed the buses that goes through Champlain bridge so that those buses, that were « direct » to Montreal center and Old Montreal, now goes to the REM. Meaning people that lives in Brossard will have to change 3 times to go to offices in OACI. (And I think pay more?) It’s a good addition to a car centric world, but boy is it really badly executed.
@@RMTransit Still is one more change, and longer transit time (and I wonder, more expensive?). It’s a good idea, I think it’s badly executed. I guess A for effort, but F for convenience. At least most of my coworkers from Candiac and Longueuil are a bit concerned. I’m sure it will help but they should have kept the buses too. I’m more excited for the West line that will lead to airport and remove cars from the 40 Highway. It’s always a pain there.
Watching this, I often wonder just how station locations are chosen. Is it just set intervals along the line? I can reason that major shopping and business districts along the route would also get a station. But what about residential areas?
@thefarix2723 In the REM's case, you have to understand it is the fusion of multiple transit projects or ideas : -The conversion of the Deux-Montagnes commuter train line, from commuter train to light rail with a much increased frequency, especially outside of rush hours; -Serving Montreal's South Shore qith a transit alternative to taking buses and/or the yellow line at Longueuil; -And serving the West Island and Dorval airport. The REM's 3 branches split at Bois-Franc, which is only about 2km away from the current orange metro line terminus, Côte-Vertu. The area around it is being carefully planned into a TOD by the City of Montreal, as well as the boroughs of Ahuntsic-Cartierville and Saint-Laurent. Some stations were chosen in order to desserve popular destinations, such as shopping centers like the Dix-30 or Fairview. Others (the ones on the ex. Deux-Montagnes line), simply replace the old stations. There can be as much as 5 kilometers between them and as little as 900 meters. Hope that helps!
@thefarix2723 In the REM's case, you have to understand it is the fusion of multiple transit projects or ideas : -The conversion of the Deux-Montagnes commuter train line, from commuter train to light rail with a much increased frequency, especially outside of rush hours; -Serving Montreal's South Shore qith a transit alternative to taking buses and/or the yellow line at Longueuil; -And serving the West Island and Dorval airport. The REM's 3 branches split at Bois-Franc, which is only about 2km away from the current orange metro line terminus, Côte-Vertu. The area around it is being carefully planned into a TOD by the City of Montreal, as well as the boroughs of Ahuntsic-Cartierville and Saint-Laurent. Some stations were chosen in order to desserve popular destinations, such as shopping centers like the Dix-30 or Fairview. Others (the ones on the ex. Deux-Montagnes line), simply replace the old stations. There can be as much as 5 kilometers between them and as little as 900 meters. Hope that helps!
Why is there a gangway for most of the inter station route? It seems that material cost seems excessive. There no similar walkway for other automated systems.
@@marvintpandroid2213 It’s basically the time that guarantees how long you will have to wait. If the frequency is 5 minutes and you just arrive when the train goes off, then at most you’ll have to wait for five minutes. It’s good for planning.
Because the people who built it will also run the line. That's how they plan to get back their money for construction. The public is basicly getting a new transit system for free
@@TheTroyc1982not entirely, the federal and provincial governments still put significant tax dollars into it, it’s just that most of the budget came from the provincial public pension plan.
Aren't stations really small? I ment, four car trains where just a start point, and that larger trains would have be used by the time riders and system length would have been growing. I'm a bit disappointed about that... This line looks like a very well made high capacity system... What's an high capacity system without the flexibility to be even more high capacity in the future?
The devolopment around the stations are already quite impressive, I wish brazil could afford better mass transit or at leat implement transit oriented development, here ppl are still thinking that gated suburbs located half an hour from any amenyties are the best as it can get...
Good bridge! The curvy section when approaching downtown looks anxiety-inducing on the map. Could've gained some speed if the viaduct was built straight across the industrial grounds, couldn't they? I guess Canadian right-of-ways are also set in stone and impossible to compromise for the greater good? Well if they are going to build up the area near waterfront and construct infill stations to serve it, then maybe the curves can help coverage, but that's dubious... Curious also what the inclination is on the steepest ramps on this route! Looks somewhat steep.
Curves and grades shouldn't slow it down much. The track cant isn't compromised like a mixed use line and each car has all wheels driven and 740kw so acceleration can be very fast
The first 2 curves follow along the railway right of way while the third curve cuts across the tracks going on the Victoria bridge. The REM goes around the CN and EXO yards in Pointe-St-Charles. Since those are active yards building across would have been very difficult and time consuming. The sections that cross the rail lines were the last to be finished on this segment given the constraints of short overnight work blocks required to build the structures.
There's literally no point going any faster or straighter there. Those curves at real speed are not going to seem very much like curves in reality as they're far more open than they look on a map.
Interesting! But all that freeway alignment seems like a waste though, it's going to be difficult to build TOD around them unless the freeway is also decked over which will add expense.
ben oui la population entre laval et montreal continue d'utiliser leurs chars meme avec la ligne orange entre henri bourrassa et montmenrency 😊 cela dit t'a des types qui ne sont pas chaud a payer le prix du stationnement au centre ville et tu sais comme moi que 4 fois par années ils vont trouver des raisons idiotes pour fermé une voie ou 2 voie sur le pont champlain et puis t'a ceux qui ont juste envie d'aller au centre ville ou le quartier chinois et qui vivent a brossard, les chanceux peuvent maintenant aller voir le canadien avec le rem 😊
Wait, why it feels that metro is at ground level at some points? How vehicles at road would be able to ... (*Inglis *) take 180° degree turn and yk, go in opposite direction? I mean, that's the reason cuts are made in divider, but similar cuts can't be made in metro though
I was surprised watching this just how isolated the stations seemed to be for a lot of the route. It doesn't look very built up or accessible. Is this the case for most of the route?
@@RMTransit Indeed. "Democracy" can vary from country to country. I was mainly bemused by the suggested relationship between of a system of government to the relative speed of cars and trains😀
they could have added a third rail to power the train. the main issue is snow and ice... I think in the long run it could be cheaper to maintain and much nicer! as the overhead wires makes this train look from the 1980s. Oh and this thing is an abomination in the West Island heading to the Airport.
I really dislike the alignment between the Highway, the view along the way is depressing and waiting being surrounded by noise and pollution just is a factor that negatively impacts ridership. The only Bonus is you feel faster if there's traffic but the negatives outweigh the positives of this alignment here in my opinion
nope, not noisy inside the train it is still better than dark tube in metrol de montreal which pollution ? i am not sure to be inside bus on the highway or boulevard is really better
Compared to the VIA train it runs along side? Or the effing 40? Compared to what dude? Compared to Robert Bourassa or the A15? And the eastbound section would have followed fecking Notre Dame Est, Viau, and Sherbrooke. Literally all of the worst places for traffic noise. Sherbrooke east of Pie IX is one of the worst thoroughfares on the island, for noise, traffic, walkability, bikeability, sense of place, everything. The idea that a good, safe transport that was both immune from traffic and would give users a sense of perspective could do anything BUT improve the situation is self-defeating AT BEST.
@@wendysremix and it's only going to get worse. As long as we have the specific kind of fetish for, let's call it "protectionism" in govt power in quebec the sanctioned alienation of non-french-speaking visitors and citizens is only going to continue to become more acute. They treat it like french is an indigenous language but seem to forget that french is exactly as much as english the language of settler colonialism that believed in the doctrine of terra nullius; that french was the language of the clergy who ran the residential schools... etc etc
@@weatheranddarkness What do you talking about? You're saying that french should disappear from Quebec just because it's not an "indigenous language"? Or you're just projecting your own complexes on us? The only reason why we're so protecting of our language is because we're a minority in NA, that's it. Yes a MINORITY. Without this protectionism, english could take over very easily (just like it did with most of Canada indigenous langages). And this is not some dictatorial policy from the current gouvernement, the law 101 exists for 50years now and it's supported by a vast majority of Quebecois, including anglos. And Yes, messages are not bilingual. Just like they are not french messages in Vancouver or Toronto trains.
It's just odd to not have announcements in English. It's like they're burying their head in the sand and pretending that it doesn't exist as a major language in the country and lingua franca. Metro announcements getting repeated isn't going to destroy French as a language in Quebec, especially Montreal where most natives are bilingual to a degree anyways. Struck me as odd when visiting that the metro didn't announce in both languages. Hell, in Austin TX here Spanish isn't even an official language or even the primary language for 90% of the population and the busses still announce in both. In Italy the trains announce in Italian and English. Montreal (and the rest of Quebec, I assume) is alone in it's weirdness of language protection amongst multilingual cities (or even partially multilingual cities). From an outside prospective, it's a very weird sort of xenophobia that I haven't seen anywhere else. The worst (best) part is, the people are all nice and accommodating when you don't speak French, so why isn't the metro? @@Potato-dx5mc
Well what do you know, the REM shut down unexpectedly on its first day of revenue service! Montrealers sure will be dissapointed. What an embarassment. Looks like it is learning from Ottawa's light rail! On a serious note, this should never have happened. If a brand new transit system fails on its first day of real revenue service, then there is likely something fundamentally wrong with the system or trains. This should never have happened in the first place. Even Ottawa's light rail didn't break down on the first day of revenue service.
@@RMTransit I get your point Reese, but having a brand new system break down on the first day of revenue service is a very bad look and sends the wrong message to all prospective riders. It is like a big turn-away.
Check out our system opening video here if you haven't yet: th-cam.com/video/g9O6RzsXIqQ/w-d-xo.html
Do you think they'll overcome the public objections and expand the REM to the east?
Hey Reece, your video from yesterday on the REM is #10 on Trending!
After having been on uncomfortable buses stuck in downtown traffic, with no AC during deadly heat waves, for sometimes two hours at a time, I can say that the REM is the best thing to have happened for our transit in my lifetime.
Considering the buses were always fucking getting stuck in traffic even on the bridge, yeah, the REM will be a life saver to get to downtown (and later further). When the airport station is up and running, it will be amazing to get to it without a friggin' car from the south shore. I also hope they now get rid of the bus lanes toward Robert-Bourassa that all the jerks were using to get around traffic unpunished.
@GoddessOfTheWinds The buses are likely gonna get better since alot of the drivers and passengers will start taking the metro instead.
please come back and update your comment - next time Montreal gets more than 30cm of
@@marztecheque Snow doesn't seem to be much of an issue following this testing past winter, thankfully. It's a whole other story with lots of freezing rain. If the forecast calls for lots of "verglas", I will be working from home, thank you very much!
I liked how in the first half of the video the train kept passing the same FedEx tuck despite stopping at stations.
wow great catch!
imagine if there were a traffic jam and you just kept watching train after train zip by, best marketing ever.
yeah fedex driver are slow 😅
@@kennethschlegel870 In Toronto, there’s a section of road going to downtown Toronto that’s always busy, with a subway track running in parallel next to the road. They’ve got ads aimed at drivers stuck in traffic pointing exactly that out with statements like ‘wish you had taken the TTC?’
@@shahrokhnaqvi9613 I am not normally a fan of billboards and such, but I would make an exception for that TTC signage.👍
THIS is what mass transit should be. Rapid and frequent - unlike the bus-on-rails tram system Edmonton is building with its slow speed, limited capacity and max 5min peak frequency. (Every 5min vs every 90 sec is a world a difference). Good job, Montreal!!
If it's 5min on one branch I don't care, but 5 minute peak is just not enough. 2 minute headways are possible with every metro and human drivers, shorter headways as well with buses, trams or automated metro
@@jan-lukas I believe the reason of which Edmonton rail only peaks at 5 minutes interval is because there are a lots of at level crossings
In fairness to Edmonton though. They already have their own rapid transit in the form of the Metro and Capital Lines. If they wanted the valley line to be that, they would have built the Valley line to those same standards. The valley isn’t meant to be like REM or the ETS Legacy Light rail, it was meant to provide a much stronger local connection, especially through downtown Edmonton
@@metrofilmer8894 I actually feel like Calgary's new green line should be built like a metro with dedicated right of way instead of an on-street tram, as current C-trains slowly crawl through downtown on the street, especially considering green line will eventually connect to the airport
@@metrofilmer8894 The Metro line is not rapid at all. Both it and the capital line are limited in frequencies. For a city that wants people to take transit why limit capacity. For the valley line for example, of every TOD is built out, there will be no room on the train by the time it gets to Bonnie Doon. Tram lines should connect to rapid services. Not try and be the rapid service.
Very nice. Also, find it interesting how Americans always say transit built down highway right of ways is doomed, but then Canada builds it time and time again with solid density all around.
I'm not sure about other highway rail projects in Canada but the ones shown here are fully enclosed which probably makes waiting for the train less noisy.
The ones in LA are fully exposed to the noise coming from the highway. Plus the stations are placed right next to highway off ramps which can make the pedestrian experience uncomfortable.
Canada still has major issues. REM East was completely cancelled cause a small group of NIMBYs didn't want elevated metro "destroying" their boring low density suburbs. Toronto also cannot build elevated rail due to the same nimbys.
@@Arkiasisand they have the des balles to call themselves "environmentalists"
Yeah, but also just service!
@@Gab_Gagnonwhere were you when the wide roads and highways were built? Road traffic is louder than rem trains
This is very impressive! Also makes me sad that U.S. cities (like Boston only 300 miles from this) could never build a fully automated metro at this scale, this quickly. Instead it took Boston 20+ years to build 6 miles of manually-operated light rail. Working in the transit industry in the U.S. is just depressing...
This project appears to use the center of a highway median for most of it's right of way. That definitely helped keep construction cost and issues low.
Not sure how accessible the stations will be in the long term though as highway stations don't encourage TOD growth.
@@ronnyrueda5926thats mainly for the section on the bridge
You’re comparing apples and oranges. Montreal has a metro system that isn’t automated just like Boston’s, this is just a new service layered on top of the metro. Also this was a completely new system, seperate from the metro. You are yet another armchair urbanism that doesn’t know what they’re talking about.
@@jamesnotfound How does it being a separate metro make the projects easier? I'd assume new projects would be more difficult with the added costs.
@ronnyrueda5926 There are new higher-density mixed-use developments around some stations already. They started development while the REM was being built.
The Panama station, however, is connected to the bus terminal serving the surrounding low and medium density boroughs. Around that station, the rails are replacing isolated bus lanes on the highway. On the bright side, the Panama station is also right beside the Taschereau "Boulevard", a stroad really, that the city of Brossard is going to replace with an actual boulevard, medium density, mixed use buildings, significantly reduced or eliminated parking lots, fewer lanes for cars, a new tram and protected bike lanes. The REM is making that project even more attractive.
I'm finally going to ride this train today, with the hopes it will soon be a reality next year in the West Island. This is the Metro we have been wanting forc 30 years, delayed by politics and bad decisions until now.
I Hope you enjoy It!
I was so glad to be one of the first members of the general public to ride the REM this morning! 😃
This is incredible! Congratulations to my favorite city in Canada (Montreal) for creating a beautiful new system like this!! How do the stations look? I wanna get a good glimpse of them myself!
The video about this new metro was out yesterday on this channel
deeply uninspired compared to the metro. But spacious?
The stations are bright (at least in the day, haven’t seen them at night) and very nice looking, lots of wood and glass. But I can see how people might think they’re boring since they don’t have the “different artists designed every metro station” thing that the metro did. However, the REM stations have the major advantage of platform screen doors, and it’s shocking how much of an improvement that makes to the stations.
It’s not just Montreal it’s also Brossard cause that’s we’re the train sleep
@@weatheranddarkness what you mean ?
it look ugly like azure metro train
if you mean the station ok yeah metro station are more original, but at least in rem you are not stuck in dark tube
Please make more of these timelapses on other systems! They are very relaxing and a good contrast to the explainer videos 😊
I was seeing a version of this video this morning during the Saturday "open house". I was on the first train out at 9am from Gare Centrale. Riding out in the open after a life riding our metro system (as great as it is) was breathtaking. And that pass between the bridge suspension cables was fantastic.
I also spotted Reece while walking up to the return train from Brossard. You're taller than I expected, Reece!
God, seeing this makes me miss living in Montreal all the more. I used to live right near where the proposed Griffintown station's supposed to go; every day walking to work in the year I lived there, I saw them working upon the tracks and putting up the wires and all. With the work permit's expiration, I couldn't live there anymore, but y'know how it goes.
Can still see the building where I lived from this video.
What a beautiful system, it needs to be exported all around the world
That would be very cool!
Amazing! Montreal does not mess around - they get public transit right!
Thats why we have a lot of outage around MTL 😂
@@youngyankee13 they also have a lot outage in california
@@youngyankee13 Do you really ? when was the last time you got one ?
Have you walked thru Atwater? at midnight on a weekend? and lived to tell about it???
You should really do one at night if you’re still around. Having worked on the entrance to Gare Centrale at night I can assure it’s quite dramatic.
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Good idea but hard to shoot haha
Appears to be a very smooth ride! 😊
It *really* is!
This is what the Union-Pearson line (UP) in Toronto could evolve into. It points the way.
Gorgeous looking system. Looks like it's already enabling a lot of extra development at Brossard.
I LOVE MY CITY 🌃. Hope you enjoyed your visit 👊🏿🙏🏿✌🏿
I visited all stations over the weekend. They are generally quite good. Not fancy, but gets the job done. Fluid and bright. My two favourites are Panama and Du Quartier.
At Panama, the station is between the lanes of highway 10. So they build a large underpass under the highway and on the North side it’s a short distance to a brand new bus terminal for local transit. On the south side, a pedestrian/bike lanes that lead in minutes to a popular mall here.
At Du Quartier (station nearest to my house), it’s connected on the North side to a TOD district named Solar and on the south side it goes to the (in)famous Quartier Dix-30, a large commercial “car-oriented” district. But which I use often anyways.
I’d like to see some aerial footage around these stations. Given they’re mostly built along the highway I wonder how much foot traffic some of those stations will draw
Some TOD is already developed; Solar Uniquartier north of Du Quartier. Some areas are ripe for development; parking lots in between Du Quartier and DIX30 mall, surrounding areas at Panama.
Nice system. The transport oriented development at Du Quartier 😜👍 Are there any plans to (re)develop the (industrial) zones between Gare Centrale and Iles des Sœurs? An (elevated?) infill station is being built on that stretch?
Yes an infilled station is already under construction in Griffintown!
Yes, the Griffintown station will be added sometime in 2024 or later. However, some people are requesting an additional station in the industrial part of the Pointe-Saint-Charles neighbourhood, which has a lot of potential for redevelopment. Only time will tell if it happens!
@@laurentfortier5442This really needs to happen and be coordinated with the redevelopment of the area !
@@laurentfortier5442 the industrial part of The Point is actually one of the few industrial areas in the core that is still used as such. It would be good if there were a stop just this side of the river though giving access to the school Monseigneur Richard and the long park all along Verdun.
Seems highly likely someday!
Lo fi beats to chill and watch the future of transportation to
Precisely 😂
Montreal has a history of building great rapid transit train systems. Ottawa's O (occasional) Train on the other hand, is in the middle of another 3 week shut down because of mechanical issues, it's prone to derailments, it breaks down when there's freezing rain (yea, who knew we'd get freezing rain in Ottawa, right? 🙄), and, AND the planned service from the international airport doesn't even go directly downtown. That's right, you'll have to transfer to another train to get to downtown Ottawa. What a joke. What an embarrassment. But congratulations to Montreal on the REM, well done!
At least it has the Potential to be useful unlike the old Ottawa train! haha
A thing of beauty
For a while, the most "expensive" seats (French expression for "harder to get") will be those at the front window...😅
We had the same effect during the opening of Meteor (M14) in 98 in Paris.
And it is always the case, even on the M1 or the M4.😄
When I see that REM running right in the middle of the Champlain Bridge, it disappoints me how NY’s idiotic governor at the time dismissed the possibility of building a branch of the heavy rail Metro North Railroad over the new Tappan Zee Bridge that was being built between Westchester and Rockland Counties, citing that it was not feasible. It would’ve provided a one-seat train ride from Rockland (and possibly further northern counties west of the Hudson River) to Manhattan’s Grand Central Station.
I'll get the opportunity to ride next weekend and I'm so exited! 😁
My family lives on the south shore, and driving 20 mins to come pick me up at the Brossard station is so much less hassle than having to time for infrequent busses that cost 3x a REM ticket!
my brunch plans at Chez Cora - just got a lot easier.
This mass transit is absolutely fabulous! I actually was saying over the voice over for the stations outbound, "Chanel, Lagerfeld, Gautier, Givenchy" and inbound, "Gautier, Lagerfeld, Chanel, Gare Centrale." 😁
Those are the names of four clothing designers recited by Joanna Lumley as Patsy Stone in a remix version of the Pet Shop Boys' "Absolutely Fabulous".
I have to admit, "Du Quartier" is a weird name for French speakers. It literally translates to "of/from the neighbourhood", and even if it's probably not intended for that, in French it becomes "la station du quartier", so "the neighbourhood's station" which could be potentially confusing in French, depending on the context.
Aside from that, I'm so glad to see new projects coming to life and how it will change the city !
It’s so called because the station is near Blvd. du Quartier and is adjacent to Quartier DIX30.
i actually like it a lot.. feels it's your station if you iive there
I only dated women
When are we gonna see the Eglinton Crosstown time lapse? At this rate it feels like it's never gonna happen lol.
2050 at the earliest.
Mayor Ciao Chow is gonna turn it into a giant homeless shelter now. You know what they say about a "good" suit of armor - you're only as strong - as your weakest *chink*
I'm waiting for Toho to film a Godzilla movie here. It would be a great toy for him.
Fabulous!! Love this video so much!! Thanks!! 🙂
I hope I can take a trip back to Montreal. Probably would be next year during F1
did you?
That's amazing! I'll also make sure to make one timelapse like this when Indore metro is completed :)
Yo bro idhar bhi😂
@@rishav2205 Wow, you're also here, lol
Nice to know that you also watch RMTransit
@@dakshhcr2574 Yup
Proof that North America can have quality public transit.
I miss Montreal.
It’s a great town!
This was awesome! Thanks!
Looks excellent. Just wish it was open when I was there last month
Thus is Beautiful!
Oh that’s awesome
I concur!
Wish we had more like this. Perhaps thus will turn on the light for those who do make these disions
That's a lot of elevated rail.
that's *exactly* what a lot of people are going to be *thinking* come December... janvier...
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Vraiment super merci
Monteal needs a Châtelet REM station.
and a bullet-proof one - at Atwater!
About how fast did it go, sped up. Like 200 kilometres an hour - more or less???
Very excited to use this system.
However, as always in this province, they make it inaccessible.
It’s 8$ back/forth if you wanna go to Dix30 (and you don’t have OPUS for those two zones), they removed the buses that goes through Champlain bridge so that those buses, that were « direct » to Montreal center and Old Montreal, now goes to the REM. Meaning people that lives in Brossard will have to change 3 times to go to offices in OACI. (And I think pay more?)
It’s a good addition to a car centric world, but boy is it really badly executed.
Even if you don't want to do it like Luxemburg providing free transit, make it a monthly subscription like Germany. Just do it
Do you know how much 1lt of gas is? Also, how much does it cost for parking downtown??
OACI is like a 5 minute walk from GC?
@@RMTransit Still is one more change, and longer transit time (and I wonder, more expensive?).
It’s a good idea, I think it’s badly executed. I guess A for effort, but F for convenience. At least most of my coworkers from Candiac and Longueuil are a bit concerned.
I’m sure it will help but they should have kept the buses too.
I’m more excited for the West line that will lead to airport and remove cars from the 40 Highway. It’s always a pain there.
In the northeast we have dual mode locomotives p32acdm and the alp45dp
I would love to see the unedited video, you know there is a whole subgenre of train videos that you can watch that run in 1:1 time?
Watching this, I often wonder just how station locations are chosen. Is it just set intervals along the line? I can reason that major shopping and business districts along the route would also get a station. But what about residential areas?
@thefarix2723 In the REM's case, you have to understand it is the fusion of multiple transit projects or ideas :
-The conversion of the Deux-Montagnes commuter train line, from commuter train to light rail with a much increased frequency, especially outside of rush hours;
-Serving Montreal's South Shore qith a transit alternative to taking buses and/or the yellow line at Longueuil;
-And serving the West Island and Dorval airport.
The REM's 3 branches split at Bois-Franc, which is only about 2km away from the current orange metro line terminus, Côte-Vertu.
The area around it is being carefully planned into a TOD by the City of Montreal, as well as the boroughs of Ahuntsic-Cartierville and Saint-Laurent.
Some stations were chosen in order to desserve popular destinations, such as shopping centers like the Dix-30 or Fairview.
Others (the ones on the ex. Deux-Montagnes line), simply replace the old stations. There can be as much as 5 kilometers between them and as little as 900 meters.
Hope that helps!
@thefarix2723 In the REM's case, you have to understand it is the fusion of multiple transit projects or ideas :
-The conversion of the Deux-Montagnes commuter train line, from commuter train to light rail with a much increased frequency, especially outside of rush hours;
-Serving Montreal's South Shore qith a transit alternative to taking buses and/or the yellow line at Longueuil;
-And serving the West Island and Dorval airport.
The REM's 3 branches split at Bois-Franc, which is only about 2km away from the current orange metro line terminus, Côte-Vertu.
The area around it is being carefully planned into a TOD by the City of Montreal, as well as the boroughs of Ahuntsic-Cartierville and Saint-Laurent.
Some stations were chosen in order to desserve popular destinations, such as shopping centers like the Dix-30 or Fairview.
Others (the ones on the ex. Deux-Montagnes line), simply replace the old stations. There can be as much as 5 kilometers between them and as little as 900 meters.
Hope that helps!
they chose old train de banlieu station or near major spot like edouard monpetit, mcgill
you have heard of the "blindfold" and the "dartboard" - yes???
Think the Scarborough Line, Ontario Line, and Allen road portion of Line 1 all rolled into 1
wha? in 2030? 2040???
Is there not a griffintown stop?
There's no point in it as Gare Centrale exists.
@@shauncameron8390 there is griffintown stop it's just not open yet
there is griffintown stop it's just not open yet
When will it open?
Why is there a gangway for most of the inter station route? It seems that material cost seems excessive. There no similar walkway for other automated systems.
What’s the frequency, Reece?
Every 5 mins
@@japanesetrainandtravel6168 I never understood the frequency.
3:45 mins at peak hours, actually
@@marvintpandroid2213 It’s basically the time that guarantees how long you will have to wait. If the frequency is 5 minutes and you just arrive when the train goes off, then at most you’ll have to wait for five minutes. It’s good for planning.
3:45 - 7:30 for now!
Isnt there one more stop that's missing? Between ile-des-soeurs and gare centrale called Griffintown-something-something...
Yes, it's still under construction. it was never to open with this phase
ile des soeurs is more eastern than ile st helen, so ile des soeur is really far away from brossard
WOW!
Why did they create a new brand for the REM, Instead of integrating it with the Metro?
Because the people who built it will also run the line. That's how they plan to get back their money for construction. The public is basicly getting a new transit system for free
@@TheTroyc1982not entirely, the federal and provincial governments still put significant tax dollars into it, it’s just that most of the budget came from the provincial public pension plan.
because rem use current train de banlieu infrastructure or champlain bridge
it is easier than dig tunnel
are you serious ? way more complicated to do.
Could you do a video on Stuttgart 21? It would be great with a clear explainer for what seems like a massive project
This is what the Canada Line could have been.
one day
Aren't stations really small? I ment, four car trains where just a start point, and that larger trains would have be used by the time riders and system length would have been growing. I'm a bit disappointed about that... This line looks like a very well made high capacity system... What's an high capacity system without the flexibility to be even more high capacity in the future?
They can increase frequency up to every 90 seconds. Should be enough for a long time.
The devolopment around the stations are already quite impressive, I wish brazil could afford better mass transit or at leat implement transit oriented development, here ppl are still thinking that gated suburbs located half an hour from any amenyties are the best as it can get...
Good bridge!
The curvy section when approaching downtown looks anxiety-inducing on the map. Could've gained some speed if the viaduct was built straight across the industrial grounds, couldn't they? I guess Canadian right-of-ways are also set in stone and impossible to compromise for the greater good? Well if they are going to build up the area near waterfront and construct infill stations to serve it, then maybe the curves can help coverage, but that's dubious...
Curious also what the inclination is on the steepest ramps on this route! Looks somewhat steep.
Curves and grades shouldn't slow it down much. The track cant isn't compromised like a mixed use line and each car has all wheels driven and 740kw so acceleration can be very fast
The first 2 curves follow along the railway right of way while the third curve cuts across the tracks going on the Victoria bridge. The REM goes around the CN and EXO yards in Pointe-St-Charles. Since those are active yards building across would have been very difficult and time consuming. The sections that cross the rail lines were the last to be finished on this segment given the constraints of short overnight work blocks required to build the structures.
There's literally no point going any faster or straighter there. Those curves at real speed are not going to seem very much like curves in reality as they're far more open than they look on a map.
It could have been more direct, but it’s still very fast!
Hell yes ❤
Funny how hectic drivers are on Champlain. Driving Montreal style 😂
we should let REM trains drive the grand prix f1 de canada next time;)
@@rjlindeman true
I wish they would have used the same STM chime
Really reminds me of Dubai metro
but actually used
Is this connected to the airport?
It will be!
Airport connection will come in Phase 3 in 2027
Wowieeeeee 😮
Woohoooooo🎉🎉🎉🎉
So exciting!
Please look up "Morgantown Personal Rapid Transit", Its really odd.
do you play Fallout 76? know what I'm talking about? look it up...
You should do MARC (Day VII)
Interesting! But all that freeway alignment seems like a waste though, it's going to be difficult to build TOD around them unless the freeway is also decked over which will add expense.
But the TOD is already starting!
They have walkways going over the freeway. At some stations they go under the freeway.
Tbh, Riding at this speed at right gives me a heart attack 💀
(Well um, As an Indian I normally drive at left)
Haha! Fair enough 😂
ah finally another modern metro system in North America
It’s a great day!
Beau projet mais trop chère pour pour le passage. La population va continuer d'utiliser la voiture malheureusement
Mouais sa reste cher quand meme pis de plus en plus des arrêtés non nécessaires.
ben oui la population entre laval et montreal continue d'utiliser leurs chars meme avec la ligne orange entre henri bourrassa et montmenrency 😊
cela dit t'a des types qui ne sont pas chaud a payer le prix du stationnement au centre ville et tu sais comme moi que 4 fois par années ils vont trouver des raisons idiotes pour fermé une voie ou 2 voie sur le pont champlain
et puis t'a ceux qui ont juste envie d'aller au centre ville ou le quartier chinois et qui vivent a brossard, les chanceux peuvent maintenant aller voir le canadien avec le rem 😊
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train :)
Train :)
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Wait, why it feels that metro is at ground level at some points? How vehicles at road would be able to ... (*Inglis *) take 180° degree turn and yk, go in opposite direction?
I mean, that's the reason cuts are made in divider, but similar cuts can't be made in metro though
It's a highway, cars don't make uturns here. Simple
@@arkynkueh nobody should make Uturns anyway
it doesnt need bridge between highway
I was surprised watching this just how isolated the stations seemed to be for a lot of the route. It doesn't look very built up or accessible. Is this the case for most of the route?
This is what is going to be extended out to Pierre Trudeau International Airport hopefully by 2027, correct?
"LoOk tHe cArS oN thE hIgHwAy aRe FaStEr, tHat'S eNoUgH pRoOf tHaT cArS aRE BetTeR thAn cOmMie tRaiNS"
Honestly in non peak hours driving is still faster if you're in a pinch to get somewhere
India is a democracy
They weren’t half the time
@@RMTransit Indeed. "Democracy" can vary from country to country. I was mainly bemused by the suggested relationship between of a system of government to the relative speed of cars and trains😀
@@peterelvery just for the record, my comment was a joke
indonesian video when
Why couldn't they have used a more modern system without those electric poles. Looks so messy.
more expansive
bruh what it all run on electricity
they could have added a third rail to power the train. the main issue is snow and ice... I think in the long run it could be cheaper to maintain and much nicer! as the overhead wires makes this train look from the 1980s. Oh and this thing is an abomination in the West Island heading to the Airport.
I really dislike the alignment between the Highway, the view along the way is depressing and waiting being surrounded by noise and pollution just is a factor that negatively impacts ridership. The only Bonus is you feel faster if there's traffic but the negatives outweigh the positives of this alignment here in my opinion
The noise isn't actually too bad because of the platform screen doors. Much better than some of the highway-based stations we've used in other cities.
@@OhTheUrbanity oh, completely forgot about that, that's actually pretty great, hope the access to the station is isolated aswell
A funny thing aswell is that I got a notification of your reply and the First suggested video on my homepage is one of yours
Highways are built on state-owned land. Building transit there saves a lot of land acquisition trouble.
nope, not noisy inside the train
it is still better than dark tube in metrol de montreal
which pollution ? i am not sure to be inside bus on the highway or boulevard is really better
You guys are missing the noise it makes 😂😂. Biiiig difference in reality
Compared to the VIA train it runs along side? Or the effing 40? Compared to what dude? Compared to Robert Bourassa or the A15? And the eastbound section would have followed fecking Notre Dame Est, Viau, and Sherbrooke. Literally all of the worst places for traffic noise. Sherbrooke east of Pie IX is one of the worst thoroughfares on the island, for noise, traffic, walkability, bikeability, sense of place, everything. The idea that a good, safe transport that was both immune from traffic and would give users a sense of perspective could do anything BUT improve the situation is self-defeating AT BEST.
it is not so bad, it is not really more noisy than train de banlieu or metro de montreal
its not noisy
When it works .
My observation: no bilingual messages? Traffic seems to be going faster. Other than that looks great. Can't wait to use it.
Basically nothing public facing in Quebec is bilingual
@@wendysremix and it's only going to get worse. As long as we have the specific kind of fetish for, let's call it "protectionism" in govt power in quebec the sanctioned alienation of non-french-speaking visitors and citizens is only going to continue to become more acute. They treat it like french is an indigenous language but seem to forget that french is exactly as much as english the language of settler colonialism that believed in the doctrine of terra nullius; that french was the language of the clergy who ran the residential schools... etc etc
@@weatheranddarkness What do you talking about? You're saying that french should disappear from Quebec just because it's not an "indigenous language"? Or you're just projecting your own complexes on us?
The only reason why we're so protecting of our language is because we're a minority in NA, that's it. Yes a MINORITY. Without this protectionism, english could take over very easily (just like it did with most of Canada indigenous langages). And this is not some dictatorial policy from the current gouvernement, the law 101 exists for 50years now and it's supported by a vast majority of Quebecois, including anglos.
And Yes, messages are not bilingual. Just like they are not french messages in Vancouver or Toronto trains.
It's just odd to not have announcements in English. It's like they're burying their head in the sand and pretending that it doesn't exist as a major language in the country and lingua franca. Metro announcements getting repeated isn't going to destroy French as a language in Quebec, especially Montreal where most natives are bilingual to a degree anyways. Struck me as odd when visiting that the metro didn't announce in both languages. Hell, in Austin TX here Spanish isn't even an official language or even the primary language for 90% of the population and the busses still announce in both. In Italy the trains announce in Italian and English. Montreal (and the rest of Quebec, I assume) is alone in it's weirdness of language protection amongst multilingual cities (or even partially multilingual cities). From an outside prospective, it's a very weird sort of xenophobia that I haven't seen anywhere else. The worst (best) part is, the people are all nice and accommodating when you don't speak French, so why isn't the metro? @@Potato-dx5mc
The inbound traffic is faster, not the outbound traffic.
Surely this is gonna be a disaster -
This need to better before any other line is created. Glad REM de l'est is stall. Hopefully not going back to this organisation.
Well what do you know, the REM shut down unexpectedly on its first day of revenue service! Montrealers sure will be dissapointed. What an embarassment. Looks like it is learning from Ottawa's light rail!
On a serious note, this should never have happened. If a brand new transit system fails on its first day of real revenue service, then there is likely something fundamentally wrong with the system or trains. This should never have happened in the first place. Even Ottawa's light rail didn't break down on the first day of revenue service.
I don’t agree, these things happen and it was sorted pretty quickly
@@RMTransit I get your point Reese, but having a brand new system break down on the first day of revenue service is a very bad look and sends the wrong message to all prospective riders. It is like a big turn-away.