This was on abc of all places 2 days ago. Figured the Pentagon would hide it (getting to be too many crashes) but China was probably watching, not to mention the sailors
THAT MEANS USA IS NOT UPDATED TO FIGHT RUSSIA. IF THE F-35 IS DESIGN TO MEET MANY ROLES THEN IT SHOULD FIND WHATEVER FELL IN CHINA...USA SO CALLED TECHNOLOGY...WHY NOT USE IT TO FIND WHATEVER FELL OFF THAT PLANE IN THE CHINA WATER....MMMMM
I'm surprised that with the sensitive nature of these aircraft the US Navy doesn't have a ship carrying specialized equipment for just such a incident. I would think they'd begin trying to retrieve the aircraft immediately and treat any actions by a foreign nation as hostile.
The US are not fooling anyone. This F35 is not only stealthy but has the latest cloaking technology that will be invisible even if it was standing next to you.
Wait I don't understand. If a F-35 fell off from a carrier in a landing accident, then shouldn't the carrier and entire fleet be in proximity? Even if they don't have the right salvage ship to pick it up, why would they have trouble finding it?
I don't know man but the sea is huge and the plane is not Falling straight to the bottom of the sea , surely it was swept away by the underwater current
So a carrier was waiting for the plane to land, which crashed and fell off that carrier. How is there any sort of race to get to the plane? The carrier group just hangs out until salvage gets there. I am so confused with this video.
Because depending if on were the plane is china can get it which would make our current gen fighters useless also the plane can drift it just doesn’t stay in the same place it’s the ocean not the land
Same. There are press photos of the plane in the water. I assumed if the plane hit the carrier and landed in the water close enough to get pictures it's right next to the carrier or within the area of the strike group. I mean unless they think it is now drifting away underwater then I guess all bets are off. Do those planes ping when they hit the water? Surely the sub in the strike group could track it that way?
The carrier already left, possibly damaged in the accident. Also, the process could take months, and no combat group would station in the open water for that long without resupply.
I mentioned that in a other thread. The guy asked for for proof so I told him about two news articles about two other F35 crashes and then found a third. Apparently that makes me a troll. Happy I'm not the only one that knows about how bad the rollout has been for this aircraft.
@@memyselfandi1300 teething issues, F14 had those, F18 had those, F35 has those. But ask the pilots that flew one which would they rather fly during wartime.
@@tomaszwota1465 oh totally. It's dissapointing to say but it is what it is. And not good when it's an advanced system like this. I think it will end up being compromised sooner than later anyways though with how many countries have them/pooped their money into it.
@@cookiecraze1310 yeah but the pilots are trained to go full throttle while landing for this very reason. Cable snaps, they're going full throttle, easy recovery.
Actually, it's a common misconception that losing an aircraft and/or ejecting ruins your flight career. It does not. Only if you were found to be unsafe and/or incompetent is that a guaranteed (...well, sometimes not even then) end to your flight career. The United States government spends literally millions of dollars on schooling and training for pilots. They generally don't want to flush that resource down the drain because it's not guaranteed you'll get another quality pilot in their place. There's also the issue that it could be that it was entirely not the pilot's fault and it was something to do with the tailhook, arresting wire or ground crew. We won't know until an investigation is done.
It’s useless for that very reason, making a plane that does everything is dumb when it does them at a barley average rate, 2 trillion could have been spent on developing actual equipment meant for a specific job that’s way more efficient cost wise and military wise
The original plan was for the F35 to be a transforming mech in order to seve also as an infantry vehicle, but Japan threatened to sue Lockeed for copyright infringement.
@@ballsdeep9400 this is a dumb argument that really needs to be layed to rest everyone who uses it forgets the the F-35 isn't the first multi role fighter to exist the F/A-18 F-4 phantoms Eurofighter Rafael ECT all are multi role/ Jack of all trades just with the former two being a bit more geared for air to air. It's not a new concept. Plus if if adjust for inflation the F-35 development was actually CHEAPER than the F-15
In a perfect world I would say yes different time different Navy years ago the airwing would have used the helos to blow the plane when it was still afloat but today you have to contact Washington or Norfolk to make a decision like that career's are more important today
@@leewright1209 well, technically speaking I think it's very possible that one of the Arleigh Burke's could have attached a winch to the F-35 and with the assistance of helicopters and RHIBs, they could have towed it. Maybe even a Chinook could carry it.
You're right Justine but you have to keep in mind the fuel consumption of that Burke destroyer the carrier is nuclear she is constantly moving and swinging into the wind the escorts always fall behind in the end main reason she doesn't have to refuel Rickover foresaw this and questioned the wisdom of not keeping cgn's in service
You cannot start or end sentences as proven, lmao! Asking questions which the video literally shows evidence for. Classical Chicom troller tactics. Blindly respond at you attack Freedom of Information as a civil right and Accountability to the People. No 50 cents for you today.
I’d say the Chinese most likely know where the plane is, at least roughly. But I think it’s also safe to assume a US submarine is all ready on station.
@Tah BOO fair point. But submarines frequently travel with these task forces so an American one likely just stayed in the area. I’d be very surprised and impressed if the Chinese managed to salvage the jet.
@@AndySpicer depends on how far down it is. If they really don’t think they can get it then yeah I’m sure they’ll blow it to pieces. But as seen a couple months ago with the British f-35B crash, a salvage operation is not out of the question.
The plane could be anywhere. It can glide underwater for miles and miles and miles. Especially at the depth it becomes buyoant and meets a boundary layer.
I once read a book about undersea espionage. It describes the successful tapping of an undersea telephone cable in an almost enclosed sea off the coast of Russia. There was a description of a method of predicting where a ship could end up when it sank. There is probably a Darpa project addressing such a concern.
@@elye3701 that’s pretty interesting, but a plane would travel further. Also, you would need to know the exact roll, pitch, and yaw for this to work on a plane (you probably need to know this to find a sunken ship as well, but given that it wouldn’t travel as far, or be as small as an aircraft it should be a lot easier).
no it cannot. in such a situation the plane will quickly go nose down when sinking and travel straight down. if you drop a plane in water it doesn't just stay horizontal.
@@jonathanpfeffer3716 it will not stay in the same orientation as it enters the water, but as it begins to nosedive through the water, the nose of the plane will be pushed up, because the design of the aircraft is designed to create lift.
@@AwesomeIan135 it only will create non-negligible lift at high velocities and at non-zero AoA (which would be brought on normally by the controls of the aircraft). with water especially, I doubt it would drift a significant amount. although, since the aircraft’s weight distribution might be more back heavy, than could cause it to drift a bit more due to the higher angle that would cause.
"We have no interest in the plane, but there will be more "treasure hunting" ships in the water in order for us to recover the "treasures" from the past dynasties in the South China Sea" - China 2022
Some subs within the carrier group may be equipped with undersea airlocks and service equipment. They do stuff like limited salvage and accessing undersea cables, etc. So it's possible a sub which tails the carrier anyways already got to it first.
That was my exact thought. First of all, planes aren't that heavy. And military aircraft are even lighter. My question is: why the hell haven't sent out someone to hook it while still in reach of the fleet? That's what I would to try to do, at least.
@@Plausible_Prism2810 they will ofc, but I think that every carrier comes with some small boats that could technicaly pull the plane while ig's still on the surface
If the think sunk with one end lower than another it would glide through the water in a different direction. Mix that with currents and drifting along the bottom of the sea floor and it can go pretty far if it has 2 miles to fall
i will not be surprised if for fifty years later a historian like the chieftain getting hold of a public document saying: " back in 2022, there was an oopsie and 2 nation began a race to recover a certain aircraft. this is one of the diary of a certain captain involved in the operation...."
That part of the sea must be boiling with submarines right now. Both the US and Russia has specialized subs for undersea operations, but that is more like for tampering with undersea cables than snatching an F-35. As for China, we don't even know what is the name of their intelligence agency, but we know it for a fact that they're expert at snatching foreign technology. Actually, I am not even sure they're so interested - the F-35 is exported to a range of countries, so they could have learned a lot about it already by conventional espionage.
espionage from exported countries could only tell you about the F-35s capabilities, not about how to manufacture similar equipment to it. that would only be obtained from the US since that is the only place the aircraft is actually made. (also people circlejerk way too hard about Chinese intelligence, there is absolutely no reason to believe they have somehow obtained all technical specifications for the aircraft).
The winner takes it all, and finders, keepers. If I had a ship capable of fishing heavy things out of a deep ocean, I would go there and lift this thing myself!
And get blown the hell up. If you think the US Navy is going to allow anyone salvage that ship intact you are out of your mind. Lol. But go ahead and take your shot.
@@AndySpicer the location is SCS, hundreds of Chinese anti ship missiles with ranges reaching Guam is pointing at you point blank. You see a Chinese fleet coming close to salvage the F-35. What do you do? Sink them, there by declaring war, with 3 of your carriers parked right by their door step? Hello? It’s suicidal.
@@thomaszhang3101 So do other missiles pointed at Chinese coastal cities. Don't think either situation will likely to happen, but everyone is pointing missiles at everyone else, it goes both ways. A destroyed Guam is way better deal than Shanghai, Guangzhou, Hangzhou, etc.
@@bigbigmurphy Chances the Chinese will send one of those small subs to salvage what they want and and leave the rest for the US to find and pretend they did not find it.
I'm just thankful that someone invented a technology that allows all of the world's deepest thinkers and subject matter experts to gather in one spot to share their wisdom.
It can land on a carrier, lol. These things happen occasionally - you can have the world's most cutting edge technology and skilled personnel and it still wouldn't entirely eliminate the possibility of technical faults/human error.
They're still machines and will at some point fail. I witnessed an F-18 had a collapsed landing gear during landing. Lucky for the pilot, it did catch the wire and kept from sliding off the deck.
yes. and then it sunk... It's wings make it glide on currents, the Depth of the South China sea can go up to over 5km deep. Water absorbs radio detection... It can be somewhat followed with sonar, but not 5km deep, and once it rests on the sea bed, it's extremely difficult to find it. the currents can sweep it several kilometers in any direction. plus the carrier was moving at the time. it's not so simple to just go straight down where it went in the drink and find it. it could be anywhere in a 20+ square kilometer grid... it's like a needle in a hay stack.
Okay so, a super valuable, highly protected aircraft fell into the water of the most contested naval zone in todays world. This is literally like a world war porn plot.
It better be the U.S., or it's just deliberate negligence. A fleet is RIGHT THERE. Aircraft carriers don't just go around the world by their lonesome. There's destroyers, cruisers, subs. No excuses if they can't retrieve or destroy it.
@@spitfire8790 They won't destroy a $80 million dollar asset. They need to recover it for the investigation. Blowing it up doesn't erase all of the secrets. Even parts can be used to reverse engineer design concepts which reveals the military's approach to design. But really, the main problem with your suggestion is that missiles don't actually work under water. Torpedoes do, but they don't obliterate the target and aren't meant to attack targets sitting at the bottom of the ocean. Their effectiveness at neutralizing "evidence" is questionable.
@@spitfire8790 no anti-submarine weapons can be used to destroy wreckage? They've never considered this scenario? In the very least, having the fleet on-site till the demolition crews arrive.
actually a pretty thought provocing question. No missle can be guided to hit a plane in the water... All "anti plane" missles have proximity fuse. All "anti big stuff" missles can't fire that close. Anti submarine stuff now adays are all sound guided torpedos. Only thing that can destroy it are 5inch guns or guided bombs
They basically know exactly where the plane is. The problem is it's not like a ship where it's going to mostly go straight down it's a plane and in the water it's going to Glide so it probably moved quite a distance from where it went in the water to where it impacted the seafloor unless it managed to nose itself straight down to the ocean floor but I doubt that it probably glided a couple of miles away.
Why would anyone be even remotely interested in salvaging the U$ flying coffin is beyond me. That overpriced hot garbage can't even fly. This is its second crash in a single month.
@@catonpillow to learn how to defeat it, which is important when there are hundreds if not thousands of stealthy aircraft tasked against you. If you dont think the f35 is one of the most lethal planes in the sky you simply dont know whats going on
@@mrgeorgeb0062 Indeed, it's so 'incredibly advanced' that it just keeps on falling from the sky. On its own mind you. Because it's garbage. Nobody needs that piece of crap.
And what will the U.S. submarine do? Destroy the chinese searchship and probably start a war? "And China doesn't know" This goes both ways, why would you think that there will be no chinese submarines in the area, especialy this close to the mainland?
They would know it’s there from their radars alone they have very good technology there should be self destruction for all high end military equipment just put a bunch of c4 in the would have taken care of all the equipment we left for the terrorist overseas also I can’t believe we actually just left them with millions and millions worth of weapons of terror armed them to the teeth is what we did yet here in America I can’t even own a pistol anymore because I had a drug habit and decided to go to rehab through the state which marks me as a mental defective even though I was the one willing to go but yet we can leave a bunch of terrorist with tanks all kinds of guns explosives humvees etc because it was to expensive to extract it all this world is screwed up but I still have my ways of making sure I am armed and not walked over there is a black market for a reason and it’s better than having guns on the book because the government doesn’t know I have them
I'm sure the US will park a sub very near the wreckage and send a concentrated sonar ping at anything that gets close...Kind of like a very loud "Hello....Don't even think about it."
If you can engine-nerd a ship covered in state of the art missiles, guns, aircraft and radar but lack the forethought to mount recovery equipment on one of those ships, you're probably over thinking shit and not in a good way...
The whole point of naval war ships are to destroy and kill the enemy with swift and brutal force. Not salvaging lost equipment >_< lol I would assume they have special teams that do salvage missions for when this type of thing occurs.
I´m sure the submarines escorting the carrier have already parked themselves right over the wreck. Might be the first time an american skipper is actively encouraged to bump into something with his boat.
This happened a month ago off the HMS Queen Elizabeth and the fighter was salvaged by US and UK forces. If this information is out, someone either committed treason or it’s already secured/destroyed, or it’s a trap model for the Chinese to underestimate its capabilities.
@@MrG3ST Would hardly be shocking since China has those aircraft carriers in the desert? People hiding behind fake names not able to start a sentence like a 1st grader? Quite shocking!
China: "This is our waters!!!! You no welcome!!!!" *US Carrier drop expensive high end top secret technology planes into water* China: "Oh, a gift, if you give more, you can come anytime!!!!!"
they are already making their own domestically developed fighter similar to the F-35, not because they obtained tech specs for the F-35 but just because they are the second biggest economy in the world with military spending near the US. if Russia with an economy smaller than NYC can do it they can.
@Patriot Game Player Forgot to mention the kamikaze attacks, and some other things but i respect it Not tryna start a war I'm just sayin there's a few details left out.
Yeah, the guy who maintains the arresting gear, perhaps the carrier captain, but everything I've heard says the pilot wasn't at fault. The wire broke, or a tire burst or something like that. CVN-70 is the only CVN certified for the F-35C currently, and they're still working out the bugs. landing a plane on a ship isn't a simple thing, and doing it with a new plane creates further problems yet. I'm wondering what went so very wrong that sailors on the deck were injured. That means either those sailors were standing some place they shouldn't have been (unlikely, a carrier deck is a very highly regulated place), or something really bad happened, like an arresting wire broke and hit a bunch of deck crew. Either way it doesn't' appear to have been the pilot at fault, unless the pilot knowingly ignored a wave off signal, which isn't something that really happens in naval aviation. (Possible though.)
china probably has blueprints of this anyway.... looking at the j31 lol and may even manage to improve it and sell it back to the americans at a cheaper price only for the americans to be annoyed and sanction china for the nerve and the insult XD if you see a cheaper and improved version sold to other countries the US wasnt successful in retrieving it..... do we know if the russians got the other one lol???? are these f35s falling into the sea the equivalent of a ufo crash and the aliens gifting tech on purpose??? if i put on my conspiracy hat id say yeah the west is intentionally pushing their planes off the deck of carriers as a trojan horse lol.... china wont bite lol if its an effort for china to retreive it its even more of an effort for the US to sail all the way with the equipment if its even possible.... the west has now handed 2 chances both for russia and china to get their hands on this plane if they really wanted to.... is it intentional???? or is the west incompetant??? its peace time FFS!!!! the US incident is far more embarrassing as its their plane and its not the first time the US has bungled on Chinas doorstep???! would be hilarious if the chinese navy formed a crowd around the US salvage op all waving and eating popcorn XDDD
Lets take a moment to laugh at the hilarious lack of discipline from sailors leaking footage and photos from the crash. Not to mention the potential for geotags on photos from smartphones (although there is no reception on the ocean, who knows).
@@tylerwisniowski5825 Maybe focus on ending sentences? Someone breaks communications and then uses it to post something? Why do we see you begging? How can any US carrier have silent communication? 5000+ US servicemembers with smartphones. tablets and laptops all connected to the internet. Luckily we all know how secure the internet is!! Love how US sailors operating from my ships beg even harder then you are seen doing. Please no Sir don't throw my digital crutch overboard exposing out position!!!! And then you just make them watch as you chuck it into the ocean. I've seen grown men cry over it, lmao!
@@icecold9511 Do you understand what a US SAI and CRS is? Anyone sane will watch that video of a US servicemember taking the oath with a handpuppet. Proving they are clueless about what they are joining. If you are wondering why specifically a dino puppet? I do not understand it either. Master Sgt. Robin Brown was forced to retire and the colonel taking that oath seriously was demoted. I would have keelhauled them ... in the lenght.
@@MrFlatage I've probably heard the terms before. Everything I've heard said we avoid sources out of country. Primarily it was an article where the supplier tried to pass off Chinese manufaured parts as US made. One of the fears was a kill code to shut down equipment.
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They say the F-35 is the stealthiest submarine in the world
hahaha
It's so stealthy, most people don't even know it's a submarine at all!
Good one.
I believe that, it can stealth in ocean, none other can do that
SO stealthy, they can't even find their OWN F-35.
How did this news get out? This sounds like Top Secret stuff.
Lol binkov magic.
US army posts shit on the instagram these days
In the age of smartphones with so many sailors seeing it may be hard to keep secret so they make their own press release.
A similar thing happened to the RN a F-35b a few months ago in the Mediterranean Sea.
This was on abc of all places 2 days ago. Figured the Pentagon would hide it (getting to be too many crashes) but China was probably watching, not to mention the sailors
F-35 was designed to meet so many roles.... that it even tried its hand being a submarine!! Pov:. Like why not??
😂😂😂
That’s why it’s Stealth, so the Chinese don’t find it at the bottom of the sea LOL
🤣🤣🤣
careful, @Fenris Elecit will be unhappy that you laugh at his master.
THAT MEANS USA IS NOT UPDATED TO FIGHT RUSSIA. IF THE F-35 IS DESIGN TO MEET MANY ROLES THEN IT SHOULD FIND WHATEVER FELL IN CHINA...USA SO CALLED TECHNOLOGY...WHY NOT USE IT TO FIND WHATEVER FELL OFF THAT PLANE IN THE CHINA WATER....MMMMM
I'm surprised that with the sensitive nature of these aircraft the US Navy doesn't have a ship carrying specialized equipment for just such a incident. I would think they'd begin trying to retrieve the aircraft immediately and treat any actions by a foreign nation as hostile.
The US Navy will award contract to a Chinese salvage company to save money.
haha true
They could claim anything missing was already gone.
Chinese take 2 week, American company take 6months
Just imagining two submersibles having a tug of war over the wreckage that ends up with an actual war.
Hunt for the Red October ...
Planes version
And thus fallout 2022 was made
Love it if we could get that on camra
Looks like the Naval variant of the f-35 is working as intended.
Fly
Dive in
Submarine mode activated
😂😉🥳🤣😇😅
F-35 aquatic addition
It's because a female pilot was flying it and when they told her to wave off ...." lm not letting some man tell me what to do"! ...
When the plane is so stealth that the US themselves can't even find it 😂
The US are not fooling anyone. This F35 is not only stealthy but has the latest cloaking technology that will be invisible even if it was standing next to you.
@@CalvinK300 😂
The levels of incompetence are crazy. Embarrassing.
If u ever drop your phone in the toilet remember that some guy out there dropped an F-35 into the see.
I hear if you put it in rice, the F-35 dries out good as new.
It's not all bad if the Chinese recovered the F35. The US can source from them at 70-80% discount.
“This just in; James Cameron beats everyone and is the proud owner of a very soggy F-35. He plans to put it in his trophy room.”
"His name is Jaaames Cameron, the bravest pioneer..."
Wait I don't understand.
If a F-35 fell off from a carrier in a landing accident, then shouldn't the carrier and entire fleet be in proximity? Even if they don't have the right salvage ship to pick it up, why would they have trouble finding it?
I don't know man but the sea is huge and the plane is not Falling straight to the bottom of the sea , surely it was swept away by the underwater current
It's about time the US get a gen 6 plane Asap and not rely on the catastrophic plane that is the F-35
@@ommsterlitz1805 Accidents happen all the time with military aircraft. Its just because the F35 is the newest toy everybody jumps on the news.
@@Gentleman...Driver yeah the Americans f-ed up this time
@@sagnikbhowmik744 we're on a roll
So a carrier was waiting for the plane to land, which crashed and fell off that carrier. How is there any sort of race to get to the plane? The carrier group just hangs out until salvage gets there. I am so confused with this video.
Because depending if on were the plane is china can get it which would make our current gen fighters useless also the plane can drift it just doesn’t stay in the same place it’s the ocean not the land
Same. There are press photos of the plane in the water. I assumed if the plane hit the carrier and landed in the water close enough to get pictures it's right next to the carrier or within the area of the strike group. I mean unless they think it is now drifting away underwater then I guess all bets are off. Do those planes ping when they hit the water? Surely the sub in the strike group could track it that way?
The carrier already left, possibly damaged in the accident. Also, the process could take months, and no combat group would station in the open water for that long without resupply.
No, it was the plane waiting for the carrier to show up but failed. Ran out of fuel and ditched the plane.
Because Binkov has absolutely zero clue what he's talking about. In general and in all of his videos.
F-35 : its time to live my true identity as a submarine.
😂
@@paritoshdaurwal9484 The shape of the F35 fuselage also deflect Sonar Waves, we won't be able to detect it with our shitty navy.
Actually it's the new super secret Antisubmarine variant.
And it converts like the car from James bond
Looks like F35s seem to "splash" without even being in a dogfight.
Yea that escalated quickly
They haven’t really been in a dig fight yet because imo they still testing them to work out the kinks
These f-35's are going to have to be fitted with emergency inflatable bags to stop them sinking if they are causing this much trouble.
The F35 is not only a secret modern airplane but it's also a submarine. The U35. The Secret is now out. Darn🤷👀😆
So that's why the pilots are required to wear a full beard and a roll-neck sweater.
?
@@isee7668 …🤣
Wait! The Fighter and Under water Hunter Killer 35? Finally a craft that allows service men to swear freely!
Looks like America is testing the F-35 for submarine capabilities.
Ah yes the brand new F35D underwater fighter jet , truely the peek of american technological mastery
It's the USN version of the flying sub from Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea.
For the next Bond movie.
This is the most sophisticated plane that loves to swim in ocean after every few months.
It just knows that there's something down in the water and it wants to take it on!
hmm, most 'advanced' variant of F35, hmm
I mentioned that in a other thread. The guy asked for for proof so I told him about two news articles about two other F35 crashes and then found a third. Apparently that makes me a troll.
Happy I'm not the only one that knows about how bad the rollout has been for this aircraft.
@@memyselfandi1300 teething issues, F14 had those, F18 had those, F35 has those. But ask the pilots that flew one which would they rather fly during wartime.
@@tomaszwota1465 oh totally. It's dissapointing to say but it is what it is. And not good when it's an advanced system like this. I think it will end up being compromised sooner than later anyways though with how many countries have them/pooped their money into it.
The pilot has had a great career, past tense.
She's now a rear admiral.
Apparently it was the fault of the cables meant to slow the plane snapping.
@@cookiecraze1310 yeah but the pilots are trained to go full throttle while landing for this very reason. Cable snaps, they're going full throttle, easy recovery.
Actually, it's a common misconception that losing an aircraft and/or ejecting ruins your flight career. It does not. Only if you were found to be unsafe and/or incompetent is that a guaranteed (...well, sometimes not even then) end to your flight career.
The United States government spends literally millions of dollars on schooling and training for pilots. They generally don't want to flush that resource down the drain because it's not guaranteed you'll get another quality pilot in their place.
There's also the issue that it could be that it was entirely not the pilot's fault and it was something to do with the tailhook, arresting wire or ground crew. We won't know until an investigation is done.
@@julian5857 if it snaps after considerably slowing you down, full throttle will not help.
The pilot was hospitalized in Manila instead of Taipei indicating that the aircraft carrier group is much nearer Manila than Taipei.
Maybe they sent him there to throw off the chinese
@@andrewjennings7306 EXACTLY
You know, sci-fi solved problems like this years ago, it's called a self-destruct sequence.
Rip the fishes
Holy shit this has to be one of the worst comment sections I've ever seen.
you're absolutely right
Its funny af seeing trumper conspiracy and then chinese bots, then actual people and his subscribers comment on them.
Anyone else hate the michael dude tho?
truth.
Just went out for a smoke... found an F-35 in my yard unscratched, and without a pilot.
Smh...
If they can’t find it, the plane’s stealth is really good.
It can even ward off their own side's radar xD
Whoever worked on the stealth system must be very proud.
Ah yes, the new F35S version.
S obviously standing for Submarine.
🤔So the sea is becoming a F-35 museum?🤣🤣🤣
Underwater reef!!!
*Artificial
In addition to being Jack of All Trades for Air Force, Navy and Marines, they should have made the F-35 amphibious …
It’s useless for that very reason, making a plane that does everything is dumb when it does them at a barley average rate, 2 trillion could have been spent on developing actual equipment meant for a specific job that’s way more efficient cost wise and military wise
The original plan was for the F35 to be a transforming mech in order to seve also as an infantry vehicle, but Japan threatened to sue Lockeed for copyright infringement.
@@ballsdeep9400 this is a dumb argument that really needs to be layed to rest everyone who uses it forgets the the F-35 isn't the first multi role fighter to exist the F/A-18 F-4 phantoms Eurofighter Rafael ECT all are multi role/ Jack of all trades just with the former two being a bit more geared for air to air. It's not a new concept.
Plus if if adjust for inflation the F-35 development was actually CHEAPER than the F-15
@@seskorirkeashimrui3556 I didn’t say it’s the first multi role jet but I can guarantee you the other ones didn’t cost 2 trillion dollars.
@@arx3516 …🤣
Not sure why the U.S. would even leave the area. The Chinese wouldn't come close with the carrier group on top of it.
Could be a decoy
I am going to guess a certain pilot is now peeling potatoes in the back of the kitchen.
Nah, he's getting a footy from Fang Fang with Hunter. Plus just the tip for the big guy!
So the whole world gonna get a $100 F-35 version with free shipping, nice.
HaHaHa !!!!
What are the chances that the F35 has already been recovered by the escort ships at the moment it crashed?
In a perfect world I would say yes different time different Navy years ago the airwing would have used the helos to blow the plane when it was still afloat but today you have to contact Washington or Norfolk to make a decision like that career's are more important today
@@leewright1209 well, technically speaking I think it's very possible that one of the Arleigh Burke's could have attached a winch to the F-35 and with the assistance of helicopters and RHIBs, they could have towed it.
Maybe even a Chinook could carry it.
You're right Justine but you have to keep in mind the fuel consumption of that Burke destroyer the carrier is nuclear she is constantly moving and swinging into the wind the escorts always fall behind in the end main reason she doesn't have to refuel Rickover foresaw this and questioned the wisdom of not keeping cgn's in service
At this moment the US Knew they had fucked up.
They always fucked up ....either themselves or others !! Now they fucked the sea too..!!
Let me get this straight
You guys dropped a plane off a carrier and just kept chugging on?
the real question is why the hell is this public knowledge, who let this shit slip to the public
You cannot start or end sentences as proven, lmao!
Asking questions which the video literally shows evidence for.
Classical Chicom troller tactics. Blindly respond at you attack Freedom of Information as a civil right and Accountability to the People.
No 50 cents for you today.
@@MrFlatage are you ok?
@@MrFlatage ^ This is a Chinese agent trying to keep the info flowing, as evidenced by his grasp of the English language.
I’d say the Chinese most likely know where the plane is, at least roughly. But I think it’s also safe to assume a US submarine is all ready on station.
You know it
They are going to blow that plane to bits. Nobody is going to salvage it.
Absolutely, it happened over 48hrs from this posting. U.S. & Japan had subs tracking decent.
@Tah BOO fair point. But submarines frequently travel with these task forces so an American one likely just stayed in the area. I’d be very surprised and impressed if the Chinese managed to salvage the jet.
@@AndySpicer depends on how far down it is. If they really don’t think they can get it then yeah I’m sure they’ll blow it to pieces. But as seen a couple months ago with the British f-35B crash, a salvage operation is not out of the question.
I mean, all China has to do is ask Israel and I'm sure they'd provide them with an F-35.
Israel hates China
China: *picks up plane.*
"Wait, all these parts are made in China. Why are we so concerned about this?"
It’s not this is one of the biggest reasons the project survived a few years ago when it looked bad.
It provides like 100k jobs in America
The plane could be anywhere. It can glide underwater for miles and miles and miles. Especially at the depth it becomes buyoant and meets a boundary layer.
I once read a book about undersea espionage. It describes the successful tapping of an undersea telephone cable in an almost enclosed sea off the coast of Russia. There was a description of a method of predicting where a ship could end up when it sank. There is probably a Darpa project addressing such a concern.
@@elye3701 that’s pretty interesting, but a plane would travel further. Also, you would need to know the exact roll, pitch, and yaw for this to work on a plane (you probably need to know this to find a sunken ship as well, but given that it wouldn’t travel as far, or be as small as an aircraft it should be a lot easier).
no it cannot. in such a situation the plane will quickly go nose down when sinking and travel straight down. if you drop a plane in water it doesn't just stay horizontal.
@@jonathanpfeffer3716 it will not stay in the same orientation as it enters the water, but as it begins to nosedive through the water, the nose of the plane will be pushed up, because the design of the aircraft is designed to create lift.
@@AwesomeIan135 it only will create non-negligible lift at high velocities and at non-zero AoA (which would be brought on normally by the controls of the aircraft). with water especially, I doubt it would drift a significant amount. although, since the aircraft’s weight distribution might be more back heavy, than could cause it to drift a bit more due to the higher angle that would cause.
"We have no interest in the plane, but there will be more "treasure hunting" ships in the water in order for us to recover the "treasures" from the past dynasties in the South China Sea" - China 2022
I was going to say that is a joke but actually its their unironic official statement.
Ha! Nerd.
US won't recover it, they'll just use a naval mine or an ASROC.
Honestly, the subs trailing the fleet have probably already made it a non issue.
cope
Some subs within the carrier group may be equipped with undersea airlocks and service equipment. They do stuff like limited salvage and accessing undersea cables, etc. So it's possible a sub which tails the carrier anyways already got to it first.
Why did the submarine captain get fired for what?
Want to rely on submarines, don't just crash, it's good
It's too deep for that. It would require specialized deep sea recovery vessels and equipment.
@AA Mech
The USA can.
But I just think it will be easier to blow the 🐕 up
This is how the F-35 operates in stealth mode!
*This is what military experts call a whoopsie-doodle.*
The plane wreckage was right beside the carrier and was, at least for a period of time, floating. So this shouldn't be too difficult.
That was my exact thought. First of all, planes aren't that heavy. And military aircraft are even lighter. My question is: why the hell haven't sent out someone to hook it while still in reach of the fleet? That's what I would to try to do, at least.
@@antonioljubicic9420 well. Sea currents. Air pockets and other sh*t will drfit it pretty far
@@Plausible_Prism2810 they will ofc, but I think that every carrier comes with some small boats that could technicaly pull the plane while ig's still on the surface
Aside from ocean drift.
If the think sunk with one end lower than another it would glide through the water in a different direction. Mix that with currents and drifting along the bottom of the sea floor and it can go pretty far if it has 2 miles to fall
“Mr President sir, we just lost an F35 off the Chinese coast”.
Biden “ Come on man”.
All according to plan.
F35? I already took my B12s this morning!
Biden: “is the F35 some sort of pill i need to take as a new medication for my feeble brain?”
Why do all these F-35's end up in the ocean? Do their AI systems silently dream about be a submarine instead?
i will not be surprised if for fifty years later a historian like the chieftain getting hold of a public document saying: " back in 2022, there was an oopsie and 2 nation began a race to recover a certain aircraft. this is one of the diary of a certain captain involved in the operation...."
So there is a submarine version of the f-35 now?
F-35Sea
So many experts in the comments section. Generals, Naval Admirals, logistics experts, etc.
Gotta love the internet man
Yeah, nobody should comment anymore. I'm sure the creators would like that. What's your take?
you must have a lot of fun in the comments section.
That part of the sea must be boiling with submarines right now.
Both the US and Russia has specialized subs for undersea operations, but that is more like for tampering with undersea cables than snatching an F-35. As for China, we don't even know what is the name of their intelligence agency, but we know it for a fact that they're expert at snatching foreign technology.
Actually, I am not even sure they're so interested - the F-35 is exported to a range of countries, so they could have learned a lot about it already by conventional espionage.
Their intelligence agency is the MSS (ministry of state security) and their military has an intelligence bureau.
espionage from exported countries could only tell you about the F-35s capabilities, not about how to manufacture similar equipment to it. that would only be obtained from the US since that is the only place the aircraft is actually made. (also people circlejerk way too hard about Chinese intelligence, there is absolutely no reason to believe they have somehow obtained all technical specifications for the aircraft).
中国有潜艇，外交部已经明确说了，中国对F35没兴趣。
The winner takes it all, and finders, keepers. If I had a ship capable of fishing heavy things out of a deep ocean, I would go there and lift this thing myself!
And get blown the hell up. If you think the US Navy is going to allow anyone salvage that ship intact you are out of your mind. Lol. But go ahead and take your shot.
@@AndySpicer the location is SCS, hundreds of Chinese anti ship missiles with ranges reaching Guam is pointing at you point blank. You see a Chinese fleet coming close to salvage the F-35. What do you do?
Sink them, there by declaring war, with 3 of your carriers parked right by their door step? Hello? It’s suicidal.
@@thomaszhang3101 So do other missiles pointed at Chinese coastal cities. Don't think either situation will likely to happen, but everyone is pointing missiles at everyone else, it goes both ways. A destroyed Guam is way better deal than Shanghai, Guangzhou, Hangzhou, etc.
@@bigbigmurphy Chances the Chinese will send one of those small subs to salvage what they want and and leave the rest for the US to find and pretend they did not find it.
@@wumao6797 I actually want to see some drama, lol. It would be funny when both sides met under the sea. That would be a sight to see.
It's like forgetting a prototype IPhone in a bar at China
I'm just thankful that someone invented a technology that allows all of the world's deepest thinkers and subject matter experts to gather in one spot to share their wisdom.
thumper - Do I detect a hint of sarcasm in your comment? 😏
Really crazy how everyone in this comments section has more expertise and knowledge then the entire US military
So we spent all this money on a plane with high technology in it that still can't land on a carrier?
It can land on a carrier, lol. These things happen occasionally - you can have the world's most cutting edge technology and skilled personnel and it still wouldn't entirely eliminate the possibility of technical faults/human error.
They're still machines and will at some point fail. I witnessed an F-18 had a collapsed landing gear during landing. Lucky for the pilot, it did catch the wire and kept from sliding off the deck.
WTF r u talking about? It crash landed next to our aircraft carrier.
Ikr, such clickbait garbage.
Our? BUTT SNAKE i'm danish?
yes. and then it sunk... It's wings make it glide on currents, the Depth of the South China sea can go up to over 5km deep. Water absorbs radio detection... It can be somewhat followed with sonar, but not 5km deep, and once it rests on the sea bed, it's extremely difficult to find it.
the currents can sweep it several kilometers in any direction. plus the carrier was moving at the time.
it's not so simple to just go straight down where it went in the drink and find it. it could be anywhere in a 20+ square kilometer grid... it's like a needle in a hay stack.
Obviously the "C" in F-35C stands for Can't Land.
Also since it's a multirole fighter, it also Can't Swim.
C is the Chinese Block 1337 Export variant.
Okay so, a super valuable, highly protected aircraft fell into the water of the most contested naval zone in todays world. This is literally like a world war porn plot.
It better be the U.S., or it's just deliberate negligence. A fleet is RIGHT THERE. Aircraft carriers don't just go around the world by their lonesome. There's destroyers, cruisers, subs. No excuses if they can't retrieve or destroy it.
"Loool just destroy it like send a missile to the water bro it's not that hard"
@@spitfire8790 They won't destroy a $80 million dollar asset. They need to recover it for the investigation. Blowing it up doesn't erase all of the secrets. Even parts can be used to reverse engineer design concepts which reveals the military's approach to design.
But really, the main problem with your suggestion is that missiles don't actually work under water. Torpedoes do, but they don't obliterate the target and aren't meant to attack targets sitting at the bottom of the ocean. Their effectiveness at neutralizing "evidence" is questionable.
@@spitfire8790 no anti-submarine weapons can be used to destroy wreckage? They've never considered this scenario? In the very least, having the fleet on-site till the demolition crews arrive.
actually a pretty thought provocing question. No missle can be guided to hit a plane in the water... All "anti plane" missles have proximity fuse. All "anti big stuff" missles can't fire that close. Anti submarine stuff now adays are all sound guided torpedos. Only thing that can destroy it are 5inch guns or guided bombs
@@shaunholt Yup entire fleet of ships around the carrier and a single submarine could just slip past them all undetected. So why the excuses?
They basically know exactly where the plane is. The problem is it's not like a ship where it's going to mostly go straight down it's a plane and in the water it's going to Glide so it probably moved quite a distance from where it went in the water to where it impacted the seafloor unless it managed to nose itself straight down to the ocean floor but I doubt that it probably glided a couple of miles away.
Why would anyone be even remotely interested in salvaging the U$ flying coffin is beyond me. That overpriced hot garbage can't even fly. This is its second crash in a single month.
@@catonpillow because it’s incredibly advanced 😂 have you even bothered to learn about F35 before commenting some utter bs about it being garbage?
@@catonpillow to learn how to defeat it, which is important when there are hundreds if not thousands of stealthy aircraft tasked against you. If you dont think the f35 is one of the most lethal planes in the sky you simply dont know whats going on
@@mrgeorgeb0062 Indeed, it's so 'incredibly advanced' that it just keeps on falling from the sky. On its own mind you. Because it's garbage. Nobody needs that piece of crap.
@@ravener96 You don't need to learn how to defeat something which already defeats itself on its own.
Imagine being the guy who messed up... 💀💀💀
John McCain Jr.? Admirals grandson? Sounds like a month in Wakiki to me.
If the USA doesn't already have vast recovery tools and craft in that area, stationed at all times, its Navy leadership should be fired.
$5 says there's a U.S. submarine lying in wait near the wreck, and that China doesn't know it's there.
yeah lol
And what will the U.S. submarine do? Destroy the chinese searchship and probably start a war?
"And China doesn't know" This goes both ways, why would you think that there will be no chinese submarines in the area, especialy this close to the mainland?
Why don't the US submarine just torpedo the F35 then...😆
They would know it’s there from their radars alone they have very good technology there should be self destruction for all high end military equipment just put a bunch of c4 in the would have taken care of all the equipment we left for the terrorist overseas also I can’t believe we actually just left them with millions and millions worth of weapons of terror armed them to the teeth is what we did yet here in America I can’t even own a pistol anymore because I had a drug habit and decided to go to rehab through the state which marks me as a mental defective even though I was the one willing to go but yet we can leave a bunch of terrorist with tanks all kinds of guns explosives humvees etc because it was to expensive to extract it all this world is screwed up but I still have my ways of making sure I am armed and not walked over there is a black market for a reason and it’s better than having guns on the book because the government doesn’t know I have them
I have the Apple fired up. Get me some reward money. Dollars or dong.
F-35 falls off carrier, who catches it first?
A) Ocean
B) Romanian
As a Romanian, I am already on my way to find that plane
@@mister_grizzlee5105 save your effort, time
It has 8 times failed truck record
Basically overhyped 100m junk😂😉🥳
Plot twist: Micronesia raises the wreck, becomes regional power.
Sad reminder of the dangers of carrier aviation. Hats off to those guys. Sorry to hear about 7 injuries but good to know no one was killed.
7 injuries? How did 7 people get injured by this? Did some jump off the deck to save the pilot or something?
Some random fish is very confused
It crashed right next to carrier, no need to be excited who will get it first....
Could the U.S. Navy depth charge it ? Assuming they know it's precise location ?
Explosion wouldn’t completely ruin it
@@gmakcon enough explosives solve all you're problems. Having a heartattack take nitroglycerin.
@@8Maduce50 wait what?
China probably wouldnt allow it because it is in their national waters or at least close enough to be seen as an act of war.
@@UmCachorroBemLouco it's nowhere near china's 12 nautical mile territorial waters
Nearly a 100 million of US taxes money literally falling into the Sea quite literally
Even if the US found it, they should say they didn't, this to make China keep on looking for it.
Yeah, they could drop probes down there and gather intelligence on China's submarines that come looking for it.
Naval Intelligence hire this man right now.
Big brain 🧠
I'm sure the US will park a sub very near the wreckage and send a concentrated sonar ping at anything that gets close...Kind of like a very loud "Hello....Don't even think about it."
Me reading the title: "An F35 just fell off a carrier, right mext to China"
My brain, lego guy: "HEY!"
If you can engine-nerd a ship covered in state of the art missiles, guns, aircraft and radar but lack the forethought to mount recovery equipment on one of those ships, you're probably over thinking shit and not in a good way...
The whole point of naval war ships are to destroy and kill the enemy with swift and brutal force. Not salvaging lost equipment >_< lol I would assume they have special teams that do salvage missions for when this type of thing occurs.
lmao can't even hold aircraft on an aircraft carrier
I´m sure the submarines escorting the carrier have already parked themselves right over the wreck.
Might be the first time an american skipper is actively encouraged to bump into something with his boat.
Maybe could of tracked it all the way down with its sonar
This happened a month ago off the HMS Queen Elizabeth and the fighter was salvaged by US and UK forces.
If this information is out, someone either committed treason or it’s already secured/destroyed, or it’s a trap model for the Chinese to underestimate its capabilities.
Why not just depth charge the thing into bits when you recovered the pilot?
Because its not about destroying it, its the materials of the aircraft
Its still a what? 100million dollar aircraft
And i doubt that the rescue + repair will cost anywhere near of that
Depth charges aren't used anymore. They've been replaced with torpedoes
Why do F-35’s have a habit of falling into the Sea?
isn't video told it occasionally happen not specifically F-35
would be shocking if it ended up in a desert when falling off an aircraft carrier wouldn't it?
It's suppose to be multirole fighter and can fight under water like a submarine.
@@MrG3ST Would hardly be shocking since China has those aircraft carriers in the desert?
People hiding behind fake names not able to start a sentence like a 1st grader? Quite shocking!
neither will find it because its stealth
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Lol you have no idea what Stealth is ...it will easily be found
@@subsplease-gk7yo joke...
Its the Submarine feature of the f35 c, It can fly in Air, space and water. Like the most me 262 back in the day.
Imagine being that pilot, poor guy.
There's always a chance of failure, also the fact that they are in another countries waters.
Can someone tell that 1 guy on the deck crew to stop throwing his banana peels on the ground
The US just recoved the f-35.
US won the race
China have stated they are not interested ,no race
Bruh, this was the 3rd crashed F-35 all within like a few weeks, nobody was even trying to salvage it.
@@TheRealIronMan You mean a few months? This happens all the time with new aircraft.
there's no race...China is not as shameless as the US
@@niuchajianfa6222 Not as shameless? You're fooling yourself.
China: "This is our waters!!!! You no welcome!!!!"
*US Carrier drop expensive high end top secret technology planes into water*
China: "Oh, a gift, if you give more, you can come anytime!!!!!"
F35’s new feature
It can dive in, operate as a submarine t😅😇
By this time, China must have already started a production line of copied F-35
And named Mi F35-C Pro
they are already making their own domestically developed fighter similar to the F-35, not because they obtained tech specs for the F-35 but just because they are the second biggest economy in the world with military spending near the US. if Russia with an economy smaller than NYC can do it they can.
The Ocean gets it first.
Looks like they finally mastered the stealth tech... everyone seems to be struggling to find it.
LOOL
Whelp! At least Nemo has a stealth mansion to live in now.
Sponge Bob can play jet jockey.
We got to find that Plane…. that thing is fully equipped and if found would give away too much.
I'm sure U.S. traitors have sold those secrets long ago.
The Romanian will steal it first !
Not the first time China got parts of a modern stealth plane from a Balkan country hah
Detroit stole it
@@smeekle2000 can't have shit in detroit
The plane was recovered so quickly it beat the release of the video
Fun fact: There are more planes in the ocean then there are submarines in the sky
LOL
No duh lol
@Patriot Game Player or the pilot just dun goofed
@Patriot Game Player bruh didnt ask 4 a history lesson💀
@Patriot Game Player Forgot to mention the kamikaze attacks, and some other things but i respect it Not tryna start a war I'm just sayin there's a few details left out.
Well someone is more than likely never flying in a carrier group ever again
Yes John mccain.
Yeah, the guy who maintains the arresting gear, perhaps the carrier captain, but everything I've heard says the pilot wasn't at fault. The wire broke, or a tire burst or something like that. CVN-70 is the only CVN certified for the F-35C currently, and they're still working out the bugs. landing a plane on a ship isn't a simple thing, and doing it with a new plane creates further problems yet. I'm wondering what went so very wrong that sailors on the deck were injured. That means either those sailors were standing some place they shouldn't have been (unlikely, a carrier deck is a very highly regulated place), or something really bad happened, like an arresting wire broke and hit a bunch of deck crew. Either way it doesn't' appear to have been the pilot at fault, unless the pilot knowingly ignored a wave off signal, which isn't something that really happens in naval aviation. (Possible though.)
Yeah. After Jao Baidan cuts you your billion-dollar taxpayer paycheck for taking part in operation "10% for the Big Guy", why ever work again?
bro they literally took the plot of red october and switched the countries, time, and equipment lol
Why would the Chinese care? They already got the plans before and built a better version
Fuck... I really don't want China to get a hold off this tech...
Israel: how much do you want for this America tech
Tech that keep on falling to the sea
US intel waiting to sell
It's the black box that the US doesn't want China to recover. It's a mother lode for intelligence.
china probably has blueprints of this anyway.... looking at the j31 lol and may even manage to improve it and sell it back to the americans at a cheaper price only for the americans to be annoyed and sanction china for the nerve and the insult XD if you see a cheaper and improved version sold to other countries the US wasnt successful in retrieving it..... do we know if the russians got the other one lol???? are these f35s falling into the sea the equivalent of a ufo crash and the aliens gifting tech on purpose???
if i put on my conspiracy hat id say yeah the west is intentionally pushing their planes off the deck of carriers as a trojan horse lol.... china wont bite lol if its an effort for china to retreive it its even more of an effort for the US to sail all the way with the equipment if its even possible....
the west has now handed 2 chances both for russia and china to get their hands on this plane if they really wanted to.... is it intentional???? or is the west incompetant??? its peace time FFS!!!! the US incident is far more embarrassing as its their plane and its not the first time the US has bungled on Chinas doorstep???!
would be hilarious if the chinese navy formed a crowd around the US salvage op all waving and eating popcorn XDDD
Lets take a moment to laugh at the hilarious lack of discipline from sailors leaking footage and photos from the crash. Not to mention the potential for geotags on photos from smartphones (although there is no reception on the ocean, who knows).
Anyone else find it fishy that this is being so widely publicized? Wouldn't the US want to keep it secret?
A sailor broke comms and posted the crash which begs the question why didn't the ship go comms silent
@@tylerwisniowski5825 Maybe focus on ending sentences? Someone breaks communications and then uses it to post something?
Why do we see you begging?
How can any US carrier have silent communication? 5000+ US servicemembers with smartphones. tablets and laptops all connected to the internet.
Luckily we all know how secure the internet is!!
Love how US sailors operating from my ships beg even harder then you are seen doing. Please no Sir don't throw my digital crutch overboard exposing out position!!!!
And then you just make them watch as you chuck it into the ocean. I've seen grown men cry over it, lmao!
@@MrFlatage
Do they understand they joined a military service?
@@icecold9511 Do you understand what a US SAI and CRS is?
Anyone sane will watch that video of a US servicemember taking the oath with a handpuppet. Proving they are clueless about what they are joining. If you are wondering why specifically a dino puppet? I do not understand it either. Master Sgt. Robin Brown was forced to retire and the colonel taking that oath seriously was demoted.
I would have keelhauled them ... in the lenght.
@@MrFlatage
I've probably heard the terms before. Everything I've heard said we avoid sources out of country. Primarily it was an article where the supplier tried to pass off Chinese manufaured parts as US made. One of the fears was a kill code to shut down equipment.