You should buy the Z3. The Miata is a rot box. Even good condition ones are rotting. Z3’s however are bottomed out now, only one direction to go with is up in value. The parts are also cheaper. This from someone who has had 3 Miatas.
The new Mazda is real good now 180 Horsepower and gets 41 miles a gallon even if you ride it fast still great gas mileage is in the 40s. BMW no were near that in the low 20s maybe 24 mph at best. How ever BMW has more power but the Mazda funner to drive because it's so light only 2100 lbs. The dependability is great. I own one and put 170,000 miles no problems I sold to get the newer one. He is also showing you the low grade Mazdas. the 2006 came much better 160 hp and leather seats and nicer interior. The gas mileage is not as good on the 06 mot the 2017 however maybe 31 at best.
I would not call the NA a low grade Mazda. Most people would rather have a NA than NB even if the NB is objectively better. The Gas mileage perhaps is the only thing I can see, but really gas milage isn't a big deal for most people buying sports cars. New ones are great but everything I said still stands, BMW uses higher quality materials.
Hi Nav, I'm surprised that the BMW puts out less horse power than my 2012 V6 Impala, which puts out 300 from the factory. Anyway I enjoyed the episode. What ever happened to the Mustang? That is the car that originally drew me to your channel. But even with out it I really enjoy it. Take care and catch ya later. JoAnn
Yah the bmw has “only 300hp” but it’s light and meant to be a track car. The mustang is in the garage and actually leaking oil. More to come on that car. Thanks for watching!!
This isn't the best comparison. This would be better compared to MX-5 BBR edition cars with the appropriate upgrades that are more of match between the two in terms of performance. Arguably, you’re still going to get more from the BMW M Roadster due to tuning and engine size, but at least the horsepower output would be a bit more closely matched. The NA Miata would seemingly compare better to the Z3 cars fitted with a 1.9 liter 4 Cylinder and a 5-speed transmission.
Two very different cars if you are in the market for an MX5 of the value you mention you are in competition with a standard Z3. The MX5 is the better option unless you need the extra cabin and boot space. Here in the UK, a decent Z3M is going to cost £20,0000 to £25,000. For that you could get a nearly new (or new if you haggle) MX5, but you are also in competition with a lot of other cars, a quick look online. V6 Jag F-Type 2013 BMW Z4 3.O (340BHP) 2016 Porsche Boxster (310bhp) 2010 Porsche Boxter (265bhp) 2015 Lotus Elise 2007
I don’t own a s2000 but one day would love to own and review one. But the s2000 only comes in manual and is not a i6 it’s a i4 and did not come in a coupe only roadster
@@NavsGarage yes both are roadsters both are manuals. Damn I was wrong though the s2000 never came with a i6. Not sure why I thought so to. I would love to own a s2k as well.
@@NavsGarage do it! If only I was 19 years old two years ago when I was looking at the market they all were under $27k Canadian. Sadly they all now $40+k Canadian 🤦♂️ I hope next year it goes back down.
You should buy the Z3. The Miata is a rot box. Even good condition ones are rotting. Z3’s however are bottomed out now, only one direction to go with is up in value. The parts are also cheaper. This from someone who has had 3 Miatas.
most miatas are rotted for sure. I looked for a long time before finding mine which is quite clean
Very good, thank you 👍🏼
US spec M roadster came with only 240hp, but I understand your confusion. It does pull like a nearly 300hp car
Bmw underrated power. They didn’t make quite 300 but it’s closer to 300 than that it’s rated from what I’ve seen
@@NavsGarage I can't find any dyno tests or proof that BMW underrated power. I think you're confusing it with the +300hp euro-spec version
@@AvidUTuberit’s if it’s a 2001-2002 it’s s54 then it’s 315 but yes I think it’s more like 250-260
I’d like to see a comparison of the Z3 2.3 vs the Miata. Perhaps a more fair comparison.
Like I said in the other comments. I don’t own one. Definitely would be more fair but I used my cars.
@@NavsGaragemost car reviews are done by people who don’t own those cars…
The new Mazda is real good now 180 Horsepower and gets 41 miles a gallon even if you ride it fast still great gas mileage is in the 40s. BMW no were near that in the low 20s maybe 24 mph at best. How ever BMW has more power but the Mazda funner to drive because it's so light only 2100 lbs. The dependability is great. I own one and put 170,000 miles no problems I sold to get the newer one. He is also showing you the low grade Mazdas. the 2006 came much better 160 hp and leather seats and nicer interior. The gas mileage is not as good on the 06 mot the 2017 however maybe 31 at best.
I would not call the NA a low grade Mazda. Most people would rather have a NA than NB even if the NB is objectively better. The Gas mileage perhaps is the only thing I can see, but really gas milage isn't a big deal for most people buying sports cars. New ones are great but everything I said still stands, BMW uses higher quality materials.
Hi Nav,
I'm surprised that the BMW puts out less horse power than my 2012 V6 Impala, which puts out 300 from the factory. Anyway I enjoyed the episode. What ever happened to the Mustang? That is the car that originally drew me to your channel. But even with out it I really enjoy it. Take care and catch ya later. JoAnn
Yah the bmw has “only 300hp” but it’s light and meant to be a track car. The mustang is in the garage and actually leaking oil. More to come on that car. Thanks for watching!!
It will feel like "300" because it's so light. I had an e36 m3 and I can say the z3m feels much much faster. It's lightweight.
This isn't the best comparison. This would be better compared to MX-5 BBR edition cars with the appropriate upgrades that are more of match between the two in terms of performance. Arguably, you’re still going to get more from the BMW M Roadster due to tuning and engine size, but at least the horsepower output would be a bit more closely matched.
The NA Miata would seemingly compare better to the Z3 cars fitted with a 1.9 liter 4 Cylinder and a 5-speed transmission.
Yah it’s not a fair comparison. But these are my personal cars so I compared them
Z3 1.9 4l 140hp, Is more comparable than z3m with a miata! So, nice video
True. But it’s still cool so compare them since I own both. Thanks for watching!
Which years are the cars?
2000 BMW M Roadster and 1990 Mazda Miata
Two very different cars if you are in the market for an MX5 of the value you mention you are in competition with a standard Z3. The MX5 is the better option unless you need the extra cabin and boot space.
Here in the UK, a decent Z3M is going to cost £20,0000 to £25,000. For that you could get a nearly new (or new if you haggle) MX5, but you are also in competition with a lot of other cars, a quick look online.
V6 Jag F-Type 2013
BMW Z4 3.O (340BHP) 2016
Porsche Boxster (310bhp) 2010
Porsche Boxter (265bhp) 2015
Lotus Elise 2007
100%. I just thought I’d be cool to compare the car since I owned both. I should try to get a new mx5 and compare it to my cars.
Better comparison is the bmw Z3M vs Honda S2000. Both I6 both manual or auto, both rwd both coupe both from the same years.
I don’t own a s2000 but one day would love to own and review one. But the s2000 only comes in manual and is not a i6 it’s a i4 and did not come in a coupe only roadster
@@NavsGarage yes both are roadsters both are manuals. Damn I was wrong though the s2000 never came with a i6. Not sure why I thought so to. I would love to own a s2k as well.
@@alien_raider464 markets coming down on those cars, I might pull the trigger on one next year
@@NavsGarage do it! If only I was 19 years old two years ago when I was looking at the market they all were under $27k Canadian. Sadly they all now $40+k Canadian 🤦♂️ I hope next year it goes back down.
I dont think the M z3 has the M52.the m52 i have is 2.8
The bme z3m which is in this video has a 3.2L S52 and later years they came in s54.
sooo whens the miata getting a turbo?? lol
I’m not really planning on boosting it. BUT if we break 100k subscribers before summer ends I might do something to the Miata’s motors