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thanks, i no longer own my 69 but it was the best auto i ever owned and a big regret i ever got rid of it, glad to know there is new mags in case i ever get opportunity to own another one
The “quest” for out-of-production magazines can be a major pain. I inherited a Colt M1903 (1908) “hammerless” (internal hammer) cambered in .380 ACP. It was dad’s “normal” EDC while he was an FBI Agent (not his Bureau issued sidearm), and I cherish it. Years ago, I found a wholesaler that sold Colt OEM mags, I purchased about five or six, most are still in their wrappers, and I am VERY glad to have them.
I’m guessing s&w contracted an outside manufacturer to create the mags back in the day and United defense continued to create the magazines for whatever reason. Doesn’t the South Korean military use a gun that accepts those mags?
Yes - Daewoo Industries. Also, the Lionheart compact which is actually an upgraded Deawoo will accept S&W 69 series 12 round mags. Lionheart mags are only 10 rounds and will not fully seat in the S&W. I have an LH9C and an S&W 6904, both are excellent. I bought a couple of the Keep Shooting stainless mags and they function well in both guns.
I've found that Lionheart compact magazines will work in the 6900 guns as well--I bought a brand new Lionheart 10-rounder last year and it seems to work perfectly in my 6904. Again, they're 10 rounders unfortunately (not 12), but Daewoo/Lionheart basically copied the Smith 2nd/3rd gen mag design... so they work. Apparently.
Thank you sir I just ordered several from them. If I do a review for them I will include your name. I happened to find the oem Smith and Wesson mags in stock and the others were out of stock go figure
This is why I prefer Glock pistols. If you purchased one back in the 80s or anytime in between, then and now new magazines are not a problem. The only exception is a 1911.
Very Interesting! On a lot of my usual sources for Magazines, the metal framed S&W Pistol Magazines are either no longer available or shown as "Out of Stock", so a new source of magazines for these fine Pistols is very very Welcome! It should also be noted that Wolff Gunsprings still makes and stocks Magazine Springs for these Pistols. You have to dig a bit through their website to find them, but they are still listed. I highly recommend their +5% Strength Magazine Springs for all 9mm Pistols.
Any box-feed semi-automatic greatest weakness is the magazine. Without one, the gun is basically useless. Given that the 59 and 69 (and similar) series were the most common law enforcement pistols used only 20-40 years ago, there should be plenty of magazines available. But like many gun components, the ones available are commanding high prices. It’s good to know there are other sources for the magazines. Which brings up one of my firearms gripes - new guns that don’t use the previous version’s magazine. I know there are design changes in guns, and the manufacturer seeks to maximize profits, but having an upgrade path allowing the user to interchange magazines would be handy. Another option is to base a magazine on an established standard, such as Glock or Berretta. Doing so also makes the pistol caliber carbine more desirable. I’d buy a Ruger PCC if it used S&W M&P or 59/69 series magazines.
3rd generation S&W semi autos are my favorite guns and I want them all. I will definitely keep this place in mind for new magazines. Thanks for passing it along.
Thanks HR. I actually own a 469 I purchased back in 1985 I believe. It was my first semi-auto pistol and to date the only 9mm in my collection. I haven't qualified wiy it for carry in years. It was my first off-duty. My Gen 2 Glock 23 replaced it in the early 90's and is what I carried the remainder of my career. Thanks for sourcing mags. Most people I talk to don't even know what S&W 469 is!
What I don't understand is this. There are companies in Turkey, Brazil, Italy, Spain and Serbia that make copies of the Beretta 92, the CZ-75 and 97, and Sig P22x series (all famous DA/SA pistols). In many cases these copies are VERY good to excellent. WHY oh WHY has nobody produced a clone of the Smith and Wesson 2nd and 3rd gens? Especially Taurus. I mean come on, they practically copy everything S&W makes in terms of revolvers (they are actually S&W's bastard child).
Always liked this series of S&W compact double stack pistols, had the single stack versions and all of these are classics in my opinion, humble that I am on firearms topics (right huh). I would rather pack one of these high capacity Smith & Wesson pistols than any GLOCK (yes I own A GLOCK) Hope you get that performance center S&W back soon curious if they take Months like COLT and correct the issue LIKE COLT DID NOT.
I was thinking of getting one of those, but I prefer the Bobbed Hammer. Regardless of concealability... I like to have the option of thumbing the hammer.
Thanks for sharing this information with us. I'm going to check this company out and see what other offerings they have. Again, thanks for the heads up. Stan
3rd gen Smiths are so classy. It occurs to me that one advantage of the revolver is that you don't have to worry about being unable to find mags in 50 years.😊
In my current Smith collection, I have a 6946 and a 457. I was able to find new springs and floor plates on Brownells for my 6946, but the 457 mags are really high and kind of hard to find. I'll check that site out. Thank you for the video Sir!
I picked up a 6906 recently and someone watched my video and told me about your video because I couldn't find mags. This is great info and I will have to go to keepshooting and see if I can get some mags. 😁
I have a S&W 669 and a 5906. Several years ago I purchased from S&W a sleeve that went over the 5906 15 round mag and it worked perfectly in my 669. It converts the 669 from a 12 round mag to a 15 round mag and it looks great. I think I paid $5 for it. Don't know if they are still available.
I remember when I could get used mags from CDNN..for $6.00 each..then Clinton pulled his stuff..Mags were $75 to $100 the next year.. Last ones I bought last year was $15 to $20..
I just purchased one magazine for my 6906. At first glance it appears absolutely identical to the factory magazines, suggesting strongly that the original tooling is being used. However I did find some issues that make it, at least initially, unsuitable for the task at hand. With the slide forward, the empty magazine will not lock into place when inserted. It can be pulled right out again. With considerable effort it can be locked in place, but then it is exerting upward force against the slide and the slide won’t move without great effort. With the slide locked back, the loaded magazine does install normally, and the gun feeds and cycles just fine. It locks the slide back on the last round every time. Inserting and withdrawing the magazine has a lot of grittiness and dragging. Examination of the magazine body after just a handful of uses revealed a deep witness mark, a scar caused by the magazine catch. The magazine is made of an interior, softer metal than the originals which is already showing premature signs of wear. It remains to be seen if I will be able to make this magazine work. It’s possible that filing the top of the mag catch hole will let it sit slightly lower. But if I was to buy another mag I would spend the extra money for a used factory mag rather than buying another one of these.
Doesn’t hurt to ask for a tester on any product. Don’t know if you don’t ask. There are a lot of trade ins popping up on line .sub $400. & mags…heard promag has good ones too but Dk. Take care & have a good holidays..
I just ordered two United Defense stainless steel 69 series 12 round magazines from Gunbroker. The seller was named Robertson Trading Post. Hopefully they still have some as I post this.
Hi sir. Enjoyed you video as usual. I have a question perhaps you can answer. I bought a new S&W 4006 stainless back in the early to mid nineties (.40 caliber obviously). I put a set of nice Pachmeyer rubber grips on it and bought a couple of extra factory magazines for it. I don't think I ever fired it. I see a number of these on GB that are CHP turn ins for about $700. Mine is pristine and I probably even have the box and paperwork for it. My inventory is too big and I'm thinking of selling this fine pistol. Do you know what a fair price would be? I know this not really the platform for this question but I know you are knowledgeable in this area and now know you have an interest in these guns. As an aside I bought a model 39 single stack 9mm when I was in college many years ago. It's long gone but was a very nice pistol. Thank you and thanks for all the information you share with us.
The 3rd Gen prices are going up, but the 4006 suffers a bit from the current bias against that cartridge. I suppose somewhere in the $700-850 range is about right. Truthfully, if you’re somewhere near northern Ohio, I might be interested in it.
@@hrfunk Thank you. I'm in Georgia. Still not 100% sure I'm going to sell. I do need to sell a few though. I'll check back after I evaluate what I want to sell. Thank you again for the reply and your great videos.
I recently acquired several new mec-gar 17 round mags that fit flush in the 59 series that work great in all generations. Got them from Robertson Trading Post $30 a piece.
It states on their website that they are made by United Defense. Since the patent has long expired I guess this is plausible. Lacking any country of origin markings my guess is this is correct.
@@hrfunk I just put one of the 6906 pistols on layaway. It comes with one 12r mag, but I have a bunch of Mecgar 17r mags I can use until I’m able to get my hands on a couple of spare 12r
Hey my friend. I have KNOWN about keep shooting for years. I did order some of their s&w model 59 mags and they seem a bit stiff. GLAD you found these!!!
@@misssassycompany9950 I don’t think I can narrow it down to just one, and I certainly hope I never have to. That said, my 3” S&W Model 66 .357 Magnum will do just about anything you can reasonably ask of a handgun.
It’s possible but it’s not easy or particularly safe to do so. The best way to go about it is to keep the chamber empty until your ready to shoot. Then you can just hand cycle the slide and fire the pistol in S/A mode. That model was really intended to fire the first shot D/A and then S/A afterwards.
@hrfunk One more question: So I haven't shot it yet and you mentioned the rarity of these magazines, yet I heard that many are dysfunctional and cuase jams. Is that true? I was told by my dealer that this is a very reliable firearm.
@@nocturnalrecluse1216 In my experience, the 3rd Generation S&W pistols were very reliable (so we’re the first and second generations for that matter). At this point, however, they have been out of production for nearly 2 decades. Springs degrade with use. Magazines that have been repeatedly dropped, stepped on, etc can become damaged/defective, and various parts can break. If you know how to evaluate these pistols and their components, it’s possible to identify some very good pistols. Lacking such knowledge, it’s possible to encounter problematic functioning. Individuals who call these pistols “unreliable” probably fall into the latter group.
@hrfunk Damn. That's what I thought. So the one I've obtained was $450 in value. My other option was a kimber pro 2 in all black for $659. Do you think that I'm better off with the kimber? I have 10 days to decide.
Thanks for the update, HR. 👍 I have a Model 6904 which was my back up plainclothes duty gun for 19 years. I have an even dozen S&W 12 round mags for it. (I am not interested in 10 round after market mags). I have purchased 4 original S&W mags over the past couple years, most recently 2 mags for $30 each on Gunbroker. But I have seen them offered for up to $70. They can be hard to find, to be sure. If you can get reliable 12 round mags for $30/new, then buy a stack of them! There were various magazine baseplates produced over different periods of manufacture. Some collectors get obsessive about having the right one for their handgun's serial number range. I don't. In fact, one of my mags is a stainless for a 6906. They all work fine. These are great guns and my primary carry gun is still a S&W 3914 DAO.
Chief, I was at the local GS yesterday and noticed they had about nine 5906s. After watching your video on the 5906s and this video last night I took another look this afternoon. These were all police trade-ins. All were stainless steel. The valuations varied between $399 and 425 with one creampuff model commanding $467. I don't know how they arrived at the valuations. I did notice they had a heavy trigger pull on the double action. Single action seemed fine. Each pistol comes with one magazine. I am certain you have insights; this is the first time I've actually looked closely at a 59 series. My concern is whether a local gunsmith can work on these pistols and magazine availability. Checking into the gunsmith to see if he knows about these pistols. Most of them had blemishes of one kind or another but I can't speak to the internals. All were clean. Some of the serial numbers were in near sequential order.
The first thing I’ll tell you is the 5906 was overbuilt for a 9mm. The only real downside to them is their weight. If I were you, I would select the nicest one of the group, pay the price, and run out the door before anyone changes their mind. The D/A pull is heavy on these pistols, but it is smooth. The pull weight is intentional to prevent the first shot from being inadvertently fired due to a “startle response”. It is similar to the pull of a D/A revolver. The S/A pull is light and clean. The 5906 is also a very reliable pistol with virtually any ammunition. About the only thing you need to do is swap out the recoil spring every 5000 rounds (Smith also recommended swapping out the firing pin spring and the trigger spring at that same interval, but I think they are less crucial). Regarding magazines, factory new mags are available from Mec Gar. You can also find Smith&Wesson mags at gun shows. In short, if you purchase a 5906, I don’t think you’ll regret it.
@@hrfunk agree with all of this, love all my 3rd gens my TSW5906 and my pair of 6906s are my favorites in that group. The 5906 IS a heavy beast as they are ALL stainless though like you said, super heavy for a 9mm today but you could probably use it as a hammer for years and have it still function when needed. My CHP 4006 is also sweat and I wish I could easily swap one of my 6906s over to it's decock only lever vs the decocker/safety that they have standard (returns to fire as soon as you release after decock)
@@hrfunk I just bought a s&w Wesson 1006. Apparently I bought the last six magazines in existence because after searching everywhere the only place I could find it was eBay. I paid $1,700 for 6 magazines. The handgun only cost me $1,200 🤣
@@Rich4life69 Holy smokes!!! I guess it's a good thing that I picked up an extra mag for my 1076 a few years ago. I think I paid about $40 at that time.
@@hrfunk yeah I got caught in a bidding war and it was the only location I could find those magazines anywhere on the internet. I figured it was my last opportunity to own them.
Another hit out of the ballpark by the Chief!
Keep shining the spotlight on the 2nd/3rd gens! Kids today have no idea what they are missing!
YEP! Smith REALLY dropped the ball when they stopped production!
That's outstanding! Those 3rd Gens are still relevant, and definitely classy. And with more mags, more fun!
Yep! Thanks for watching!
thanks, i no longer own my 69 but it was the best auto i ever owned and a big regret i ever got rid of it, glad to know there is new mags in case i ever get opportunity to own another one
Thanks for the tip on these. I only got one factory mag with my Smith 469. These arrived today and are excellent. Guys better get them while they can.
You're welcome! I'm glad you were able to get some.
Greetings from NY: I owe a 6906 I had it for 30 years.
They’re great little pistols. I wish S&W would bring them back in a Classic line.
That's where I got mine. I bought it used and it only came with one mag, so I had to find some more.
Good information. I wish I could find new magazines for my 645 besides the questionable Pro Mag.
I'll keep an eye out for some. I've got a 745 that uses the same ones.
The “quest” for out-of-production magazines can be a major pain. I inherited a Colt M1903 (1908) “hammerless” (internal hammer) cambered in .380 ACP. It was dad’s “normal” EDC while he was an FBI Agent (not his Bureau issued sidearm), and I cherish it. Years ago, I found a wholesaler that sold Colt OEM mags, I purchased about five or six, most are still in their wrappers, and I am VERY glad to have them.
I can understand why. I’m glad you found them.
After the 1911 the 3rd Gen S&W's pistols are my favorite. 1st on my list of course are older model S&W wheel guns!
Of course.
I’m guessing s&w contracted an outside manufacturer to create the mags back in the day and United defense continued to create the magazines for whatever reason. Doesn’t the South Korean military use a gun that accepts those mags?
Yes - Daewoo Industries. Also, the Lionheart compact which is actually an upgraded Deawoo will accept S&W 69 series 12 round mags. Lionheart mags are only 10 rounds and will not fully seat in the S&W. I have an LH9C and an S&W 6904, both are excellent. I bought a couple of the Keep Shooting stainless mags and they function well in both guns.
They use one that’s similar. I don’t know if the magazines interchange.
Thank you for this source! But I found out too little too late hahaha they sold out but I signed up for the notify me if they get a re-stock.
I hope they get some back in stock soon!
They make a baseplate that attaches to the factory 15 rounders and is the same length as the pinky extension of the 12 rounders.
Ooh 124 gold dots! This was an expensive video. Great video as always HR.
Will work for ammo.
I've found that Lionheart compact magazines will work in the 6900 guns as well--I bought a brand new Lionheart 10-rounder last year and it seems to work perfectly in my 6904. Again, they're 10 rounders unfortunately (not 12), but Daewoo/Lionheart basically copied the Smith 2nd/3rd gen mag design... so they work. Apparently.
keepshooting makes/sell good steel m1 carbine magazines. I think 5,10,15 but 30s weren’t available when I last looked
30’ers are available at this time $19.95
Thank you sir I just ordered several from them. If I do a review for them I will include your name. I happened to find the oem Smith and Wesson mags in stock and the others were out of stock go figure
Good! I’m glad you were able to order some.
@@hrfunk thanks for the reply don’t know to many gun guys but you seem like a good honest one. Great job on the videos by the way
Thank you!
This is why I prefer Glock pistols. If you purchased one back in the 80s or anytime in between, then and now new magazines are not a problem. The only exception is a 1911.
I would put the P35 Hi Power in that category too.
Thanks so much!
You’re welcomeJoe!
I checked Keep shooting but no success.................Looking for a 3913 mag source and ideas..................thanks
Too bad. They must have only had the 6900 series magazines.
Mr. Funk I'm trying to get a company to make G10 grips or my 469. Would you be interested if I'm able?
I could live with 13,stout gun I would go plus p plus,maybe spring change for that?
My department used to gun 115 grain Federal BPLE (+P+) ammo in our stock 3rd Gen pistols. We never experienced any problems.
@@hrfunk sounds good,our crime near here has just exploded some young swat officer was killed a couple days back near me in Tacoma area.
@@paulscountry456 I’m sorry to hear about that. This is a dark time for our country.
Looking for magazines for my S&W 3906 … original magazines !
It can also use magazines from the 1st and 2nd generation 39’s if you come across any of those.
@@hrfunk Thanks .. good to know !
that's a nice pistol i like that one to.
Thanks! So do I.
Might want to check Wolff for a 59 mag spring and maybe cut it to proper length?
Based upon my experience with these magazines, I would rather just buy them and not modify springs.
Mag springs are not that hard due to taking Beretta, CZ, SIG, and even Glock mag springs, and modding them.
I would rather just have a new magazine or two.
Very Interesting! On a lot of my usual sources for Magazines, the metal framed S&W Pistol Magazines are either no longer available or shown as "Out of Stock", so a new source of magazines for these fine Pistols is very very Welcome! It should also be noted that Wolff Gunsprings still makes and stocks Magazine Springs for these Pistols. You have to dig a bit through their website to find them, but they are still listed. I highly recommend their +5% Strength Magazine Springs for all 9mm Pistols.
Any box-feed semi-automatic greatest weakness is the magazine. Without one, the gun is basically useless. Given that the 59 and 69 (and similar) series were the most common law enforcement pistols used only 20-40 years ago, there should be plenty of magazines available. But like many gun components, the ones available are commanding high prices. It’s good to know there are other sources for the magazines.
Which brings up one of my firearms gripes - new guns that don’t use the previous version’s magazine. I know there are design changes in guns, and the manufacturer seeks to maximize profits, but having an upgrade path allowing the user to interchange magazines would be handy. Another option is to base a magazine on an established standard, such as Glock or Berretta. Doing so also makes the pistol caliber carbine more desirable. I’d buy a Ruger PCC if it used S&W M&P or 59/69 series magazines.
The Marlin Camp 9 uses 5900/6900 series magazines
3rd generation S&W semi autos are my favorite guns and I want them all. I will definitely keep this place in mind for new magazines. Thanks for passing it along.
Thanks HR. I actually own a 469 I purchased back in 1985 I believe. It was my first semi-auto pistol and to date the only 9mm in my collection. I haven't qualified wiy it for carry in years. It was my first off-duty. My Gen 2 Glock 23 replaced it in the early 90's and is what I carried the remainder of my career. Thanks for sourcing mags. Most people I talk to don't even know what S&W 469 is!
You’re welcome. If you’re interested, I tell the story of my 469 in this video: th-cam.com/video/3LotiVVJ5JQ/w-d-xo.html
What I don't understand is this. There are companies in Turkey, Brazil, Italy, Spain and Serbia that make copies of the Beretta 92, the CZ-75 and 97, and Sig P22x series (all famous DA/SA pistols). In many cases these copies are VERY good to excellent. WHY oh WHY has nobody produced a clone of the Smith and Wesson 2nd and 3rd gens? Especially Taurus. I mean come on, they practically copy everything S&W makes in terms of revolvers (they are actually S&W's bastard child).
Good question.
They owe you some free mags for name drop alone. 👍🏻 If you drop your email to them they'll send a discount
Always liked this series of S&W compact double stack pistols, had the single stack versions and all of these are classics in my opinion, humble that I am on firearms topics (right huh). I would rather pack one of these high capacity Smith & Wesson pistols than any GLOCK (yes I own A GLOCK) Hope you get that performance center S&W back soon curious if they take Months like COLT and correct the issue LIKE COLT DID NOT.
Thanks Sergent Major. I'm waiting very impatiently for that revolver's return.
Good info, thanks. Unfortunately, they do not have 3913 magazines. Drat.
No. Sorry.
I was thinking of getting one of those, but I prefer the Bobbed Hammer. Regardless of concealability... I like to have the option of thumbing the hammer.
Thanks for sharing this information with us. I'm going to check this company out and see what other offerings they have.
Again, thanks for the heads up.
Stan
PAY ATTENTION- Beretta 92 series mags, with minor modifications, work in the 59/69 series Smiths.
Marlin Camp 9 Carbine mags will also work as they are identical to S&W mags
3rd gen Smiths are so classy.
It occurs to me that one advantage of the revolver is that you don't have to worry about being unable to find mags in 50 years.😊
In my current Smith collection, I have a 6946 and a 457. I was able to find new springs and floor plates on Brownells for my 6946, but the 457 mags are really high and kind of hard to find. I'll check that site out. Thank you for the video Sir!
You’re welcome Marcus!
Let us know when you find a source for Browning BDMR magazines 😁
Do you know of a good source to get the 5904/5906 magazines? Everywhere I've checked they've been out of stock. I'd greatly appreciate the help.
Mec Gar still makes them. Check their website.
I picked up a 6906 recently and someone watched my video and told me about your video because I couldn't find mags. This is great info and I will have to go to keepshooting and see if I can get some mags. 😁
I haven’t checked recently but they seem to get more in from time to time. Best of luck.
my 3913 needs a 3rd magazine
Sorry. I haven’t found a source for those yet.
Ebay ............$$$$$$$
U look great. Keep it going. Just bought an unfired 6906 with two 13 round mags in package. What a neat little firearm. Thanks for info.
You’re welcome! Enjoy that cool little pistol!
Purchased the magazines from the site you suggested.
I purchased 4 mags for my 669.
They operated with no issues.
Thx again for sharing
You’re welcome. I’m glad they have them back in stock.
Wolff springs makes all kinds of springs for this 3rd gen magazines
Got my 669 WAY back in the 90's. Glad I can get new mags, instead of having to scavenge springs.
Thank you for the fantastic find.
You’re welcome!
I have a S&W 669 and a 5906. Several years ago I purchased from S&W a sleeve that went over the 5906 15 round mag and it worked perfectly in my 669. It converts the 669 from a 12 round mag to a 15 round mag and it looks great. I think I paid $5 for it. Don't know if they are still available.
I know exactly what you’re talking about, but I haven’t seen them for years. I don’t know if they’re still available.
Kel tech p11 grip adapter $6 online fits the 5900s mags takes a small bit of sanding.
Outstanding I sure miss my little 6906 S&W again I traded it off for a stainless .45 Colt Commander .
Too bad Rick. I hope you still have the Commander.
Thx for sharing. They have stainless 669 in stock
I miss those guns 915. 3rd generation 9mm
Me too.
I have a 915 that shares magazines with my Marlin Camp 9 Carbine. What a fun trip down 80's/90's memory lane
BTW, Congratulations on Ohio becoming a constutional carry state !
Thank you.
Yes, I forgot the P-35 Hi-Power.
Would you describe the trigger in that gun like a staple gun or more like a pair of bolt cutters.
I would describe it as a 2nd Gen S&W trigger. I never found them to be terribly bad.
Thanks! I have a 6906.
You’re welcome!
I remember when I could get used mags from CDNN..for $6.00 each..then Clinton pulled his stuff..Mags were $75 to $100 the next year.. Last ones I bought last year was $15 to $20..
If I see these mags for a reasonable price, I try to grab them. They are few and far between.
I just purchased one magazine for my 6906. At first glance it appears absolutely identical to the factory magazines, suggesting strongly that the original tooling is being used. However I did find some issues that make it, at least initially, unsuitable for the task at hand.
With the slide forward, the empty magazine will not lock into place when inserted. It can be pulled right out again. With considerable effort it can be locked in place, but then it is exerting upward force against the slide and the slide won’t move without great effort.
With the slide locked back, the loaded magazine does install normally, and the gun feeds and cycles just fine. It locks the slide back on the last round every time.
Inserting and withdrawing the magazine has a lot of grittiness and dragging. Examination of the magazine body after just a handful of uses revealed a deep witness mark, a scar caused by the magazine catch. The magazine is made of an interior, softer metal than the originals which is already showing premature signs of wear.
It remains to be seen if I will be able to make this magazine work. It’s possible that filing the top of the mag catch hole will let it sit slightly lower. But if I was to buy another mag I would spend the extra money for a used factory mag rather than buying another one of these.
You might want to exchange that one for a different magazine.
Doesn’t hurt to ask for a tester on any product. Don’t know if you don’t ask. There are a lot of trade ins popping up on line .sub $400. & mags…heard promag has good ones too but Dk. Take care & have a good holidays..
Thank you. Same to you.
I just ordered two United Defense stainless steel 69 series 12 round magazines from Gunbroker. The seller was named Robertson Trading Post. Hopefully they still have some as I post this.
I hope so. Let me know how they work for you!
Gunmag warehouse had the 12 round mags as well for $26 the last I checked
Were those for the 69 series? The 59's are pretty common, and they will function in the 69's, but they are not the right length.
Great info HR..are those grips Pachmyar rubber?
Yes. I would prefer the factory grips, but the Pachys were on the pistol when I got it.
Mags are out of stock. You can get 12 rd Mecgars from Robertsons Trading Post.
Thanks!
They have stainless mags available I ordered 3. Got em but have not tested yet
Good. The last time I checked they were all out of stock.
They had a chief special. Our chief used to love this thing to death
I had a Chief who carried a 669. He loved it as well.
Hi sir. Enjoyed you video as usual. I have a question perhaps you can answer. I bought a new S&W 4006 stainless back in the early to mid nineties (.40 caliber obviously). I put a set of nice Pachmeyer rubber grips on it and bought a couple of extra factory magazines for it. I don't think I ever fired it. I see a number of these on GB that are CHP turn ins for about $700. Mine is pristine and I probably even have the box and paperwork for it. My inventory is too big and I'm thinking of selling this fine pistol. Do you know what a fair price would be? I know this not really the platform for this question but I know you are knowledgeable in this area and now know you have an interest in these guns. As an aside I bought a model 39 single stack 9mm when I was in college many years ago. It's long gone but was a very nice pistol.
Thank you and thanks for all the information you share with us.
The 3rd Gen prices are going up, but the 4006 suffers a bit from the current bias against that cartridge. I suppose somewhere in the $700-850 range is about right. Truthfully, if you’re somewhere near northern Ohio, I might be interested in it.
@@hrfunk Thank you. I'm in Georgia. Still not 100% sure I'm going to sell. I do need to sell a few though. I'll check back after I evaluate what I want to sell. Thank you again for the reply and your great videos.
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I recently acquired several new mec-gar 17 round mags that fit flush in the 59 series that work great in all generations. Got them from Robertson Trading Post $30 a piece.
These are great guns. They're just something about them. It's nice to see you. You keeping the weight off. Good job!
It states on their website that they are made by United Defense. Since the patent has long expired I guess this is plausible. Lacking any country of origin markings my guess is this is correct.
Is the United Defense magazine still holding up and functioning?
Yes, but in all honesty, I don’t shoot this pistol too often.
@@hrfunk I just put one of the 6906 pistols on layaway. It comes with one 12r mag, but I have a bunch of Mecgar 17r mags I can use until I’m able to get my hands on a couple of spare 12r
$35 now but at least they have them.
I’m not sure if they still have them.
Excellent. Thanks HR!
You’re welcome!
Great video, thanks 👍
You’re welcome Tony. Thanks for watching!
Price on old.pistols
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Good to know. Appreciate the video.
S&W M10 & S&W 1,2 and 3rd Gen Auto's! Love them! Ty HR
You’re welcome!
Hey my friend. I have KNOWN about keep shooting for years. I did order some of their s&w model 59 mags and they seem a bit stiff. GLAD you found these!!!
So far, I’m really happy with the one in the video. It’s running extremely well.
Is this your carry pistol? I’m still searching for the rare 5903 ssv up to now.
No, I only carry this pistol for special events.
@@hrfunk I’m just wondering what is you edc
I don’t have an edc per se. I select a handgun that best matches my clothing, activity, and destination on a given day.
@@hrfunk hypothetical question, if only you can have 1 gun for carry, bedside, range what would it be and why?
@@misssassycompany9950 I don’t think I can narrow it down to just one, and I certainly hope I never have to. That said, my 3” S&W Model 66 .357 Magnum will do just about anything you can reasonably ask of a handgun.
So I just bought a S&W 6904 with a fixed hammer. Is there a way that I can cock back the hammer and fire it single action like a 1911?
It’s possible but it’s not easy or particularly safe to do so. The best way to go about it is to keep the chamber empty until your ready to shoot. Then you can just hand cycle the slide and fire the pistol in S/A mode. That model was really intended to fire the first shot D/A and then S/A afterwards.
@@hrfunk Appreciate it! 👍
@hrfunk One more question: So I haven't shot it yet and you mentioned the rarity of these magazines, yet I heard that many are dysfunctional and cuase jams. Is that true? I was told by my dealer that this is a very reliable firearm.
@@nocturnalrecluse1216 In my experience, the 3rd Generation S&W pistols were very reliable (so we’re the first and second generations for that matter). At this point, however, they have been out of production for nearly 2 decades. Springs degrade with use. Magazines that have been repeatedly dropped, stepped on, etc can become damaged/defective, and various parts can break. If you know how to evaluate these pistols and their components, it’s possible to identify some very good pistols. Lacking such knowledge, it’s possible to encounter problematic functioning. Individuals who call these pistols “unreliable” probably fall into the latter group.
@hrfunk Damn. That's what I thought. So the one I've obtained was $450 in value. My other option was a kimber pro 2 in all black for $659. Do you think that I'm better off with the kimber? I have 10 days to decide.
I bought ProMag aftermarket mags for my 4566 that run fine. Love the third generation smiths.
I’ve got one Pro-mag for an M&P and mine runs perfectly too.
Tried them today in my 669 worked perfectly
Great! That’s been my experience too.
Thanks for the update, HR. 👍
I have a Model 6904 which was my back up plainclothes duty gun for 19 years. I have an even dozen S&W 12 round mags for it. (I am not interested in 10 round after market mags). I have purchased 4 original S&W mags over the past couple years, most recently 2 mags for $30 each on Gunbroker. But I have seen them offered for up to $70. They can be hard to find, to be sure.
If you can get reliable 12 round mags for $30/new, then buy a stack of them!
There were various magazine baseplates produced over different periods of manufacture. Some collectors get obsessive about having the right one for their handgun's serial number range. I don't. In fact, one of my mags is a stainless for a 6906. They all work fine.
These are great guns and my primary carry gun is still a S&W 3914 DAO.
The traditional S&W semi-autos were great pistols. I still wish they would bring them back in a classic line.
@@hrfunk They are prized by highly intelligent firearms aficionados. 😜
The pistol seemed a little snappy. Good video.
Thanks Scott!
Chief,
I was at the local GS yesterday and noticed they had about nine 5906s. After watching your video on the 5906s and this video last night I took another look this afternoon. These were all police trade-ins. All were stainless steel. The valuations varied between $399 and 425 with one creampuff model commanding $467. I don't know how they arrived at the valuations. I did notice they had a heavy trigger pull on the double action. Single action seemed fine. Each pistol comes with one magazine. I am certain you have insights; this is the first time I've actually looked closely at a 59 series. My concern is whether a local gunsmith can work on these pistols and magazine availability. Checking into the gunsmith to see if he knows about these pistols. Most of them had blemishes of one kind or another but I can't speak to the internals. All were clean. Some of the serial numbers were in near sequential order.
The first thing I’ll tell you is the 5906 was overbuilt for a 9mm. The only real downside to them is their weight. If I were you, I would select the nicest one of the group, pay the price, and run out the door before anyone changes their mind.
The D/A pull is heavy on these pistols, but it is smooth. The pull weight is intentional to prevent the first shot from being inadvertently fired due to a “startle response”. It is similar to the pull of a D/A revolver. The S/A pull is light and clean.
The 5906 is also a very reliable pistol with virtually any ammunition. About the only thing you need to do is swap out the recoil spring every 5000 rounds (Smith also recommended swapping out the firing pin spring and the trigger spring at that same interval, but I think they are less crucial).
Regarding magazines, factory new mags are available from Mec Gar. You can also find Smith&Wesson mags at gun shows.
In short, if you purchase a 5906, I don’t think you’ll regret it.
@@hrfunk agree with all of this, love all my 3rd gens my TSW5906 and my pair of 6906s are my favorites in that group. The 5906 IS a heavy beast as they are ALL stainless though like you said, super heavy for a 9mm today but you could probably use it as a hammer for years and have it still function when needed. My CHP 4006 is also sweat and I wish I could easily swap one of my 6906s over to it's decock only lever vs the decocker/safety that they have standard (returns to fire as soon as you release after decock)
Didnt last long 😂
I had a feeling that would be the case.
@@hrfunk I just bought a s&w Wesson 1006. Apparently I bought the last six magazines in existence because after searching everywhere the only place I could find it was eBay. I paid $1,700 for 6 magazines. The handgun only cost me $1,200 🤣
@@Rich4life69 Holy smokes!!! I guess it's a good thing that I picked up an extra mag for my 1076 a few years ago. I think I paid about $40 at that time.
@@hrfunk yeah I got caught in a bidding war and it was the only location I could find those magazines anywhere on the internet. I figured it was my last opportunity to own them.
Thanks HR
Keep the info flowing
Will do!
Thank you ,I’ve been looking years . I just ordered two.😁😁😁
FedEx just dropped off 2 more of these, 4 now. They work perfectly so far in my 6906.
Good for you!
Just got notified it’s been shipped