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Every time I see A7SIII footage, I come away impressed by it. Nothing against the newest Canon, Nikon, Panasonic, or Fuji stuff. That's all really great gear as well, but there's just something about what the A7SIII can put out that is just next level.
As a fully rigged out BMPCC4K owner can confirm blackmagic is phenomenal. Wrist cancer is nothing compared to the image quality I’m able to produce with this camera
I totally agree, it's not a vlogging camera that's for sure but at it's price point (even after getting all the extra bits), it's well ahead of competition.
You’ve taken your first step into a larger world! I love cameras and he’s super helpful. But even on vids like this where there’s no way I’d buy nor am I interested in this camera, it’s an instant watch!
You nailed it when you said BM put it all into image quality. Having owned a P4K I can confirm it can be used successfully for many things including youtube if you set up and plan properly. It's not for your average user that I would agree but to the discerning and skillful user a lot can be acheived with minimal accessorising if image quality means everything. The image is sublime!! Skin tones and colour science is amazing. The trick is to get it caged, rig up with a power pack and get a light weight monitor. This is all you need to add enough weight to hand hold and cancel out most jitter. The footage can then be quickly stabilised in post if you feel it needs it but for a lot of shots it's not necessary. With mine I bought a crane 3 gimbal and I honestly found it more trouble that it was worth balancing, the weight, batteries, chargers etc. So with BM if all you do is youtube and hobby the trick is to keep it rigged minimally. When hand holding with practice you get good at focus pulling and working with the focus peaking. The monitor I had was an atomos shinobi and it transformed the focusing capabilities for me and made it useable in the brightest daylight outside. Imo, if featutes like autofocus, focus tracking, ibis, small form factor are important my recommendation would be the fuji xt4. The video imo is the next best to BM for the money and is also a highly capable stills camera too.
LOVED the idea of the BMP4K so much I bought one, rigged it up etc. Loved the image quality and the colors. Never once used it in a professional setting due to the setup and ease of use (or lack of) then sold it in a few months. Now I want one again.
Hey man. I've been watching your crazy ass since the Thailand days, and I absolutely love the content you put out. You totally nailed it with the usability of the BMPCC4K, It is such a colossal pain to setup, and learn to use. But when you figure out how to work with RAW footage, it is an absolute dream to work with. I mainly shoot Real Estate and I can literally walk through a house with very little setup and little care for the "perfect" exposure because I can quickly get in and out of a job site and fix it in post!
The irony of this video is that, for the locked-off, fixed-distance shot used for most of the video, a Black Magic camera would be nearly ideal because you don’t need to autofocus, image stabilize or adjust the exposure.
As an real DP-Blackmagic is way more user friendly than any mirrorless it DSLR. I always manual focus. Don’t need “flippy screen”, and the menus as the easiest and most efficient of any other cameras out there. And the images are sublime.
I usually love the guy but this one's a fail. BMPCC are not designed to be fun, not designed to be a vloggers dream. It's designed for actual filmmaker's professional work.
I got Pocket 6k and I'm lovin it, but I'm making narrative work not vlogs :D BM is doing great job giving us great cinema qauality for good price and this for poor indie filmmakers like me makes them perfect cameras :D
For blackmagic cinema cameras, they offer good low noise amplifiers and higher bit rates and bit depth for recording. The only issue is that they optimize it to work within a limited ISO range, where they essentially tune the analog amplifier and ADC to prioritize dynamic range so that you maintain editing flexibility. Not all camera makers do that, e.g., you may see some internal signal path choices that result in no ability to recover shadows at high ISO (where any attempts to boost it, simply amplifies the noise more than anything else. Others may choose an overly high analog gain that will allow for better shadow recovery, but then you have no control over highlights in post. Every camera maker has their own secret method of managing the signal path, which is how you can see multiple cameras with the same sensor but they can perform differently in low light. Sadly when camera makers further develop their firmware, they never push for improvements to analog aspects of the signal in terms of how gain is applied. In any camera, due to limitations in technology, the working range of an ADC is always much smaller than the working range of a low noise amplifier. e.g., you may have an ADC that clips at any signal above 1200mv or below 400mv, and thus your 14 or 16bit ADC will be representing equal steps between 400 and 1200mv. While the sensor 0-2000mv, and it is up to the camera to manage the signal path to ensure the the most relevant part of the analog aspect of the signal is within the sweet spot of the working range of the input of the ADC. Usually camera makers can reuse a sensor and get better results with new generations of camera simply from improving the algorithms in how the signal path is managed, especially with better characterization of the analog aspects, e.g., if a camera maker decides that at certain ISO ranges, you are less likely to need the full input range of the ADC, then they can add a sliver of separation between the desired signal and noise floor of the LNA, and then have the ADC toss out that noise floor while preserving as much of the low gain information in the analog signal as possible, though at the risk of easier clipping in the highlights.
Another MFT mount camera that often gets forgotten is the JVC LS300. Like the Black Magic it is all about cinematic goodness rather than easy usability, but it is much loved by those who do use it. There is a lot about the MFT universe that gets overlooked. For me it is the most interesting of all formats with plenty to offer indie filmmakers in the way of creative options. In many ways it is like 16mm back in the film days. 35mm got all the lust and respect, but meanwhile, it was the 16mm Bolex guys who were doing much of the really interesting low budget stuff where being clever with limited resources counted for more than having the big expensive cameras and big crews and big budgets. 16mm often gets overlooked in a similar way to MFT, but I know where I like to be.
Yeah. This channel has almost everything. :D The cinematography, the slow-mo, the squirrels, the boardroom meetings. Throw in a car-chase scene, a microwave oven countdown and a walking away from an explosion scene, and you're ready to go!
@@vedranb87 don't forget the trailer videos for advertising with the deep announcer voice, lol. Famous lines from this movie will be: "You cant handle the toneh" "I see your aperture is as big as mine" "Martini, stabilized, not stirred" "I am your father, Candice" "Im gonna make him a camera he cant refuse"
@@Hangs4Fun :D YES! Ahh yesss, Toneh, the ultimate weapon to obliterate the enmies into an unrecognizable mush. :D :D :D The screams in the background as you shift the focus point while transitioning into that hellish LUT. :D
Imagine Blackmagic gets so triggered by hearing this and decides to headhunt the bests from Sony optic's R&D so that they can make the best vlogging camera that can shoot in BRAW also crippling your beloved A7S series. You shouldn't taunt them like that. 😉
All of these are very valid criticisms. In their defense is not called the Blackmagic Pocket Vlog Camera. But yes it's about what camera is best for the user.
IBIS, 4k-8k, great AF, and high frame rates all became commonly available on prosumer cameras over the last couple of years but for the 7-10 years before that people were doing just fine making HQ engaging videos with t3i's, 5d2's, and 60d's. everyone looking for the perfect camera and switching systems left and right but i started off with canon since 2010 and my last canon body was a 6D2. ive since added a GH5, FUJI X100F, & BMPCC 6k and now A7S3. everytime i bought a new camera i debated selling older gear to pay off the new gear but after considering the return i'd get on my bodies and lenses, i felt keeping them provided more value, whether it be my DSLR's for photography as they are my only full frame cameras and reliable, or GH5 for the portability and outstanding IBIS when i need to be as mobile as possible and have 4k60p capability, or the X100F for just being the aesthetic inspirational camera that it is, to the BMPCC for its cinematic image. im probably in the minority of photographers/videographers that has literally no brand preference and just want to use the tool i find most efficient and enjoyable to use for any particular application. no such thing as perfection in the camera world, always a compromise.
Every time you mention Blackmagic, I want them. Then I realize what a pain in the ass it would be to move into a new system. So thank you for inspiring me to be too lazy to upgrade :-)
Blackmagic pocket cameras, including the original bmpcc and bmmcc mount the sensor on a petlier cooler (🤪Thermoelectric Refrigerator 👍🏻), to keep the noise floor down, (increase the dynamic range). This also accounts for the terrible battery life.
EVERY TH-cam vlogger, especially those you mostly vlog either in their mother's house or their shared apartment, should ALL vlog using nothing but a Blackmagic URSA Mini Pro 12K camera. Its the most simple camera to use with the highest resolution imaginable.
I bought a Black Magic camera mainly because I already had a GH4, and all the nice Lumix lenses, and didn’t see the point in upgrading to a GH5. Plus the Black Magic camera is relatively cheap. I mainly use it inside my studio to video tape myself DJing. Taking it outside is a pain in the ass. Congratulations on your new camera. It looks fantastic. Glad to see TH-cam is paying off for you.
You've just invented something genius! The perfect camera needs to have the option to use the screen as an LED video light. Just add Video Light mode to the menu, a firmware update. Brightness high, monochrome colour temp. Tell Sony to get on that.
Blackmagic is about cinema, but it fantastic to play with and for me BRAW saves me if forget to get my WB right. It’s not a VLOG camera, have a play it’s a creators dream. Stay safe.
Usability. yes, when you used the x3000. Now running with a Siii. Not as much. Blackmagic is like Panasonic autofocus. Raw coming out of it is easy to deal with surprisingly.
i`m sony user since first nex 5 and 3 cam. this is 10 years ago. since five years, this company kicks customers butts with crazy high prices. when i heard of A7SIII prices, i switched to BMPCC4K. i got it used for 1100 bucks, need no additional screen, because its easy to manual focus, which is, what i did since my first videos on nex, because there were no nice lenses in the beginning. its a cinema camera, no consumer camera. i didnt need much extra hardware. only a screen lens viewfinder, an external power adapter for sony N-PF batteries for a few bucks gives you more power than need, and you are ready to go. you can record on external SSD over USB and it records 12 bit RAW on cheap SD cards. its perfect for filmers with small pockets, while the A7SIII is a three times more expensive piece of shit, where you still need an external recorder for raw. i`m happy to have a pure filmcamera without all the shitty menues i have on all sony cameras. sony menues come straight from hell.
How they are able to get great dynamic range: Micro 4/3 + real blackmagic = big dynamic range. Also they are making it for the crazy Australian spider overlords
I just bought a BMPC6K and the Sigma 18-35, Rigged it up for about another $600 and so fully Rigged with a lens I'm at $3500 US. The cost of the body of your A7S III
The usability of the BMPCC isn't so great BUT it's the best affordable tool for budget film making where quality is your priority. I've kept my G7 for when usability is more important than quality.
I get what you're trying to say..but black magic its a cinema camera and it was not designed for youtubers...its like a smaller ,cheaper red camera...which if you think about it ,its a dream for any cinematographer who is starting out and canot afford to buy a red camera...it doesnt make sense to vlog on a black magic pocket camera...but they could release a new model for vlogers..for example black magic 4k vlogger camera..instead of pocket...and they could add flip screen and autofocus..that would be a great idea...but what black magic pocket 4k offers at the price of 1k$ thats amazing...that sony a7siii costs like 4 times more and you still have to buy a gimbal and lenses to make a movie....and dont get me wrong i love sony a7siii
You just repeated everything he said in a less entertaining way except got the pricing wrong. The A7siii doesn't need a gimbal because it has solid IBIS. To rig out a BMPCC will cost you $1300 for the camera + $200 for the cage and rig + $300 for the gimbal + $600 for the monitor + $150 for the vmount battery and rig mount + $200 for the follow focus. That's $2750 and probably about 4 or 5 lbs added weight. And you still won't have autofocus or the shallow depth of field or the low light capabilities of the A7siii. And you won't be able to take stills in any meaningful way. And if you shoot in the rain you'll probably ruin your BMPCC because it's not weather sealed.
@@NickZukin what? so you dont need a gimbal with a7siii ? what are you talking about ? of course you need a gimbal with any camera! Cage and monitor are optional..Black magic pocket has a build in monitor..which is even bigger than the one on a7siii Cinema cameras do not come with autofocus and most cinematographers do not like or use autofocus..Only youtubers & amateurs prefer autofocus! "You wont have the shallow depth of field" ....thats all about the lens you will choose to use and has nothing to do with the camera! Same applies for any camera! As about weather sealed it doesnt mean that you can just go in the rain with sony a7siii and film and everything will be ok because its weather sealed..you still have to protect your camera! You clearly dont know what you are talking about..
i will never choose compressed h264 over RAW whatever sony has to offer, the film look the depth of colors. the camera choice depends on what you are. if you are a vlogger then go for sony, but if you are a serious filmaker then go for bm. lots of cinematographers uses bm dont complain about what you said we just dont care about it. everybody should respect everyone for their camera choices
BMPCC 6k is APS-C, not sure which one Gerald has now. This is not vlogging camera, just entry level cinema camera you can rig up. You can for sure do studio vlogs with it. Focus can be pulled either via Tilta nucleus nano or manual follow focus with whip if you want to film yourself. But with F1.8 lens on APS-C (which is ~F/2.8 on FF taking in mind BMPCC 6k crop ratio) you can be in focus even if you move a bit (you got around 8cm of focus plain). You can also focus BMD cameras using ATEM Mini switcher :). I thought Sony A6xxx/A7XX HLG is really nice quality picture, but when compared with BMD BRAW it looks like s..t :). Definitely A7S3 is better for vlogging outside, inside BMPCC 6k creates much better image than your combo from this video.
Hey man, I think that these two cameras are meant for different things. The Pocket 4k is meant for budget cinematographers who make films while the A7Siii is meant for Sony fanboys, wedding videographers, vloggers (if you want overkill it), maybe even short film makers but not cinematographers. Everything on the Pocket 4k makes sense for a cinematographer. However, point taken in the usability section, it sucks. I left mine on my shelf until I was ready to film, for everything else I had the Panasonic G9, because the G9 was great for everything else, and as far as I am concerned, great IQ. For TH-cam the Pocket 4k doesn't make sense and I guess in many situations but for what it was designed for, I don't think that I prefer another camera.
Your statement regarding simplicity and the want of the Sony FDR-X4000...Thumbs up and a new subscriber for you! True, I had to initially put a Thumbs Down for the video (even though I didn't want to) and then unsubscribe so I subscribe again, but you deserved a new subscriber with that statement!! (And for using the Holy Grail of Cameras today...Mighty impressed!)
I have a Black Magic 4k and a 1DX mark ii. I only use the BMPCC4K and a tripod and for audio. The 1 DX is for close up and b-roll. The 1DX has amazing auto focus and colors. NO c-log and it's heavy. I've been considering trading in both for a A7S iii.
I agree with you. I have a BMPCC and a canon t3i. I much prefer using the T3i cuz it’s much straightforward. The BMPCC takes so much effort, and I only use it when I actually have time to prepare for the shoot and set up for tripod and mics and extra time to fiddle with the settings.
But i don't remember Blackmagic ever mentioning this camera for vloggers. What was the need of this video? There is a world beyond vloggers. Also, why the hell someone should buy a 5000 CAD camera just for vlogging. A7S iii is great camera but you don't need it for vlogging.
Actually, the way lot of people calling A7Siii as great vlogging camera makes me think that Sony is paying many people to target vloggers to but it. Fir vloggers canon rp, a6500, g85 are great enough.
@@HrPedrosak true, its to get views. It is easy to find faults in any product. But reality is everyone have different needs. Like Lumix s5 is a great budget FF hybrid camera if you can manual focus. May be a used xt3 might be best and cheap camera for vlogging.
Camera Conspiracy - why i never talked about Blackmagic cameras. well i am a vlogger not a film maker and BMPCC cameras are not for vlogging, i also can't do manual focus while making videos. but for Cinema/Narrative work image quality is amazing.
Haha I have a BMPCC4K and I'm really happy with it (except for battery lifetime) but mostly cause I don't shoot myself xD I actually like manual focusing and having control hehe but yeah I used to have a sony a6300 with a sony 50mm and autofocus was really good for gimbal work. I didnt like the colors much though. And about the dynamic range of the m4/3 I don't know the exact technical details but the fact that black magic manufactures and develops their own technology for the sensors is really amazing. Their colour science is really top notch.
Nah, Blackmagic cameras are fine for vlogging. You just need to add the following to your kit while filming: - camera operator (for framing) + camera assistant (for reloading the batteries between takes) - focus puller (to stay in focus, duh) - sound engineer/boom operator (for sound monitoring and ambient sound mix) - gimball operator (to have stable images, duh) - DIT (to manage the enormous data throughput through the day) ... And as bonus you may need - color grading artist (to get the best colors for your vlogs) - logistics manager/driver (to get the crew what it needs/where it's needed) - catering (of course) ... Or you could go the Gerald way with this very conspicuous contraption. *But that looks less convenient.*
Is there room in this world for passenger cars and 18 wheeled trucks? Can we see the need for each? Blackmagic knows their users and they use external stabilization, monitors, focus controllers, external batteries, professional audio, timecode, studio switchers, etc.
You’ve stayed in focus throughout a video congratulations. The Sony colour isn’t great though. So I guess the quest for the perfect camera still goes on.
I now have a blackmagic pocket 4K and absolutely love it, the image quality is next level. I had several Sonys before including the a7iii and I can tell you for sure they don’t look as good as the blackmagic.
I think shooting in a RAW format allows more room for error. However, it can also be at the cost of extra time in post. But cinema cameras require entirely different equipment and shooting styles.
Followed you for years brotha love this channel. But I just think all cameras have their uses. For instance. A Pocket 4k/6k camera would be perfect for your talking in your office shots. Like this video is. As a studio/don't take it anywhere camera. Don't really need "usability" for videos like this. So it can literally just stay on a tripod permanently in your office space. I'm pretty sure now at your level you can definitely afford a the permanent setup. Dedicated screen nearby just off camera etc. I mean that sounds simple to me imo. A dedicated setup, you literally just turn on the lights and hit record.
Agreed: usability and fund to use is really important. I wonder if you've ever tried m43 with a SpeedBooster? You might get the toneh-glory you're looking for... but does it autofocus well (in videomode)? There are many different ones - Metabones considered the best. Time for a test of those vs the cheaper ones? Checked with Camera Canada - no speedbooster in their store. Does speedbosters exist in Canada at all? Are they illegal to use? Too much boosting of the speed?
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Do they have steak?
I like your lighting on this one.
Like u said it they walk up to a film set and say I am a dp I own bmpcc4k
Every time I see A7SIII footage, I come away impressed by it. Nothing against the newest Canon, Nikon, Panasonic, or Fuji stuff. That's all really great gear as well, but there's just something about what the A7SIII can put out that is just next level.
But the skin tones suck; you have to color grade EVERY time; no run and gun out of camera EVER
I bought the Sony A7Siii from Camera Canada and let them know it was your doing. You got them a sale. Keep up the great work.
Are you in the queue? Or did they actually ship it to you?
@@david.stachon I was in the queue. My number came up and now it's on the way.
Oh dang, its rodney
@@backyardparkworks Hell yeah, Kasey is awesome. Long time watcher, first time commenting :)
BEST camera ever trust me!!!! I have had the a7Siii since Christmas! Still in love with it….
As a fully rigged out BMPCC4K owner can confirm blackmagic is phenomenal. Wrist cancer is nothing compared to the image quality I’m able to produce with this camera
I totally agree, it's not a vlogging camera that's for sure but at it's price point (even after getting all the extra bits), it's well ahead of competition.
Totally worth it
JR C great comment m o r o n
This guy is hilarious. Randomly appeared on my feed :) about time TH-cam algorithm gave me something good to watch.
You’ve taken your first step into a larger world!
I love cameras and he’s super helpful. But even on vids like this where there’s no way I’d buy nor am I interested in this camera, it’s an instant watch!
You nailed it when you said BM put it all into image quality. Having owned a P4K I can confirm it can be used successfully for many things including youtube if you set up and plan properly. It's not for your average user that I would agree but to the discerning and skillful user a lot can be acheived with minimal accessorising if image quality means everything. The image is sublime!! Skin tones and colour science is amazing. The trick is to get it caged, rig up with a power pack and get a light weight monitor. This is all you need to add enough weight to hand hold and cancel out most jitter. The footage can then be quickly stabilised in post if you feel it needs it but for a lot of shots it's not necessary. With mine I bought a crane 3 gimbal and I honestly found it more trouble that it was worth balancing, the weight, batteries, chargers etc.
So with BM if all you do is youtube and hobby the trick is to keep it rigged minimally. When hand holding with practice you get good at focus pulling and working with the focus peaking. The monitor I had was an atomos shinobi and it transformed the focusing capabilities for me and made it useable in the brightest daylight outside.
Imo, if featutes like autofocus, focus tracking, ibis, small form factor are important my recommendation would be the fuji xt4. The video imo is the next best to BM for the money and is also a highly capable stills camera too.
LOVED the idea of the BMP4K so much I bought one, rigged it up etc. Loved the image quality and the colors. Never once used it in a professional setting due to the setup and ease of use (or lack of) then sold it in a few months. Now I want one again.
And? Got one again? :)
Hey man. I've been watching your crazy ass since the Thailand days, and I absolutely love the content you put out. You totally nailed it with the usability of the BMPCC4K, It is such a colossal pain to setup, and learn to use. But when you figure out how to work with RAW footage, it is an absolute dream to work with. I mainly shoot Real Estate and I can literally walk through a house with very little setup and little care for the "perfect" exposure because I can quickly get in and out of a job site and fix it in post!
“Come to my neighborhood, I’ll let you in” - Fred Rogers, 2020
The irony of this video is that, for the locked-off, fixed-distance shot used for most of the video, a Black Magic camera would be nearly ideal because you don’t need to autofocus, image stabilize or adjust the exposure.
Can't lie, image quality today is glorious and the armrest remains in perfect focus throughout. This is not overkill, it's essential..
He is using a good lighting and a Longer focal Lens in comparison to his ultra wide angle shots. This is more pleasing
my BMPCC4K is the definition of fun. I don't point the camera at myself
I feel like this video is a direct attack on me after my question in the monthly Patreon Q&A, now I'll be scared to watch the Q&A this month 🤣
As an real DP-Blackmagic is way more user friendly than any mirrorless it DSLR. I always manual focus. Don’t need “flippy screen”, and the menus as the easiest and most efficient of any other cameras out there. And the images are sublime.
I would assume that the black magic is not for Vlogging, but for filming other things and not yourself.
Before I can judge Blackmagic cameras, I need to see how it performs filming a slow motion crossing the street video.
We want all the a7siii tests bro! Your tests are the only ones that matter on TH-cam
Agreed
"I'm sending it back"😂😂😂😂 after being a little slow but still accurate on extreme dark... You are amazing!😂
I usually love the guy but this one's a fail. BMPCC are not designed to be fun, not designed to be a vloggers dream. It's designed for actual filmmaker's professional work.
I got Pocket 6k and I'm lovin it, but I'm making narrative work not vlogs :D BM is doing great job giving us great cinema qauality for good price and this for poor indie filmmakers like me makes them perfect cameras :D
For blackmagic cinema cameras, they offer good low noise amplifiers and higher bit rates and bit depth for recording. The only issue is that they optimize it to work within a limited ISO range, where they essentially tune the analog amplifier and ADC to prioritize dynamic range so that you maintain editing flexibility.
Not all camera makers do that, e.g., you may see some internal signal path choices that result in no ability to recover shadows at high ISO (where any attempts to boost it, simply amplifies the noise more than anything else.
Others may choose an overly high analog gain that will allow for better shadow recovery, but then you have no control over highlights in post. Every camera maker has their own secret method of managing the signal path, which is how you can see multiple cameras with the same sensor but they can perform differently in low light. Sadly when camera makers further develop their firmware, they never push for improvements to analog aspects of the signal in terms of how gain is applied.
In any camera, due to limitations in technology, the working range of an ADC is always much smaller than the working range of a low noise amplifier. e.g., you may have an ADC that clips at any signal above 1200mv or below 400mv, and thus your 14 or 16bit ADC will be representing equal steps between 400 and 1200mv. While the sensor 0-2000mv, and it is up to the camera to manage the signal path to ensure the the most relevant part of the analog aspect of the signal is within the sweet spot of the working range of the input of the ADC.
Usually camera makers can reuse a sensor and get better results with new generations of camera simply from improving the algorithms in how the signal path is managed, especially with better characterization of the analog aspects, e.g., if a camera maker decides that at certain ISO ranges, you are less likely to need the full input range of the ADC, then they can add a sliver of separation between the desired signal and noise floor of the LNA, and then have the ADC toss out that noise floor while preserving as much of the low gain information in the analog signal as possible, though at the risk of easier clipping in the highlights.
Another MFT mount camera that often gets forgotten is the JVC LS300. Like the Black Magic it is all about cinematic goodness rather than easy usability, but it is much loved by those who do use it. There is a lot about the MFT universe that gets overlooked. For me it is the most interesting of all formats with plenty to offer indie filmmakers in the way of creative options. In many ways it is like 16mm back in the film days. 35mm got all the lust and respect, but meanwhile, it was the 16mm Bolex guys who were doing much of the really interesting low budget stuff where being clever with limited resources counted for more than having the big expensive cameras and big crews and big budgets. 16mm often gets overlooked in a similar way to MFT, but I know where I like to be.
Nice comparison (MFT 16mm).
The clip with Undone was stunningly good-monitor, gimbal, and manual focus be damned!
One usability factor I wish other companies would adopt from BM is there menu system.
It is lightyears ahead in the ease of use factor.
I love how you keep it real. I'm a TH-cam hobo scrub that shoots on a Canon M50. One day I will sit at the grown ups table.
Can't wait for Camera Conspiracies: The movie
Yeah. This channel has almost everything. :D
The cinematography, the slow-mo, the squirrels, the boardroom meetings. Throw in a car-chase scene, a microwave oven countdown and a walking away from an explosion scene, and you're ready to go!
@@vedranb87 don't forget the trailer videos for advertising with the deep announcer voice, lol.
Famous lines from this movie will be:
"You cant handle the toneh"
"I see your aperture is as big as mine"
"Martini, stabilized, not stirred"
"I am your father, Candice"
"Im gonna make him a camera he cant refuse"
@@Hangs4Fun excellent you are hired🐕🎸❣️
@@Hangs4Fun :D YES!
Ahh yesss, Toneh, the ultimate weapon to obliterate the enmies into an unrecognizable mush. :D :D :D
The screams in the background as you shift the focus point while transitioning into that hellish LUT. :D
Shot on micro 4 3rds loser system
holy cow, you got Dave Grohl to play Candice, is there anything that guy won't do?
Unsee juice
Hah, so glad I'm not the only one who saw that
Haha cannot unsee ! xD
Hahahah... Great video again... Anyways BlackMagic cameras deliver astonishing image quality...
Omg you finally got the perfect camera
Imagine Blackmagic gets so triggered by hearing this and decides to headhunt the bests from Sony optic's R&D so that they can make the best vlogging camera that can shoot in BRAW also crippling your beloved A7S series. You shouldn't taunt them like that. 😉
Lol was just watching some Bmpcc videos and you popped up and man I forgot how fn funny you are love your style cheers!
I got a BMCP4k and OMG best buy i got ever ... Not for vlogging but for filmaking.
All of these are very valid criticisms. In their defense is not called the Blackmagic Pocket Vlog Camera. But yes it's about what camera is best for the user.
IBIS, 4k-8k, great AF, and high frame rates all became commonly available on prosumer cameras over the last couple of years but for the 7-10 years before that people were doing just fine making HQ engaging videos with t3i's, 5d2's, and 60d's. everyone looking for the perfect camera and switching systems left and right but i started off with canon since 2010 and my last canon body was a 6D2. ive since added a GH5, FUJI X100F, & BMPCC 6k and now A7S3. everytime i bought a new camera i debated selling older gear to pay off the new gear but after considering the return i'd get on my bodies and lenses, i felt keeping them provided more value, whether it be my DSLR's for photography as they are my only full frame cameras and reliable, or GH5 for the portability and outstanding IBIS when i need to be as mobile as possible and have 4k60p capability, or the X100F for just being the aesthetic inspirational camera that it is, to the BMPCC for its cinematic image. im probably in the minority of photographers/videographers that has literally no brand preference and just want to use the tool i find most efficient and enjoyable to use for any particular application. no such thing as perfection in the camera world, always a compromise.
Every time you mention Blackmagic, I want them. Then I realize what a pain in the ass it would be to move into a new system. So thank you for inspiring me to be too lazy to upgrade :-)
Blackmagic pocket cameras, including the original bmpcc and bmmcc mount the sensor on a petlier cooler (🤪Thermoelectric Refrigerator 👍🏻), to keep the noise floor down, (increase the dynamic range). This also accounts for the terrible battery life.
totally agree
That vlogging is the best? :)
For video work, I don’t at all mind rigging out the Blackmagic with gimbals, batteries, monitors. But it is most definitely not a vlog friendly setup.
EVERY TH-cam vlogger, especially those you mostly vlog either in their mother's house or their shared apartment, should ALL vlog using nothing but a Blackmagic URSA Mini Pro 12K camera. Its the most simple camera to use with the highest resolution imaginable.
I bought a Black Magic camera mainly because I already had a GH4, and all the nice Lumix lenses, and didn’t see the point in upgrading to a GH5. Plus the Black Magic camera is relatively cheap. I mainly use it inside my studio to video tape myself DJing. Taking it outside is a pain in the ass. Congratulations on your new camera. It looks fantastic. Glad to see TH-cam is paying off for you.
You've just invented something genius! The perfect camera needs to have the option to use the screen as an LED video light. Just add Video Light mode to the menu, a firmware update. Brightness high, monochrome colour temp. Tell Sony to get on that.
Vlog camera, no, everything else, perfect. Oh and it’s $1200,$900 used.
What can I say..... Brilliant Kasey
Kasey -- somewhere inside of you (not so far from the surface) is one *ANGRY* woman!!!!
@@thefullmonte1902 -- and with beautiful hair.... :-)
I love how you graded raw that curve is groundbreaking lol
Blackmagic is about cinema, but it fantastic to play with and for me BRAW saves me if forget to get my WB right. It’s not a VLOG camera, have a play it’s a creators dream. Stay safe.
Hilarious! Really loved this one, especially the exposé of how the BMPC4K was developed 😂
Usability. yes, when you used the x3000. Now running with a Siii. Not as much. Blackmagic is like Panasonic autofocus. Raw coming out of it is easy to deal with surprisingly.
Seeing a Jameson's Travels comment on a Vegetable Police video is a colliding of two very disparate worlds. End times engage.
@@mroctober3657 exactly
But Blackmagic autofocus is far behind than the Panasonic AF.
And the battery on the bmpcc is very bad
I watched "the very definition of overkill" part at least 15 times 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
"if you don't mind having your sack dropped in a bag of milk". lol. The most Canadian threat ever!
I just bought a bmpcc6k. Can't wait to vlog on it...
As a Canon R5 shooter, I hate to say it, but damn, this Sony a7 siii video looks fantastic!
If there was squirrel shots I could make a better determination lol
Man your video look 1000x better now.boy them canon color looking good, coming out of that R5.
i`m sony user since first nex 5 and 3 cam. this is 10 years ago. since five years, this company kicks customers butts with crazy high prices. when i heard of A7SIII prices, i switched to BMPCC4K. i got it used for 1100 bucks, need no additional screen, because its easy to manual focus, which is, what i did since my first videos on nex, because there were no nice lenses in the beginning. its a cinema camera, no consumer camera. i didnt need much extra hardware. only a screen lens viewfinder, an external power adapter for sony N-PF batteries for a few bucks gives you more power than need, and you are ready to go. you can record on external SSD over USB and it records 12 bit RAW on cheap SD cards. its perfect for filmers with small pockets, while the A7SIII is a three times more expensive piece of shit, where you still need an external recorder for raw. i`m happy to have a pure filmcamera without all the shitty menues i have on all sony cameras. sony menues come straight from hell.
not even a second in, you got me Kasey :D i didnt expect it to be that soon :D
How they are able to get great dynamic range:
Micro 4/3 + real blackmagic = big dynamic range. Also they are making it for the crazy Australian spider overlords
I just bought a BMPC6K and the Sigma 18-35, Rigged it up for about another $600 and so fully Rigged with a lens I'm at $3500 US. The cost of the body of your A7S III
I like your character, different strange but funny! Unique is the word 👏👏
The usability of the BMPCC isn't so great BUT it's the best affordable tool for budget film making where quality is your priority. I've kept my G7 for when usability is more important than quality.
Lol this is so fun to watch. I sold my BMPCC4K and order the A7SIII. Exactly because what you said.
AWESOME! THE SACKS ARE BACK AGAIN!! Cracked last time so hard 😂 Big fan of them 🙏🏽
I get what you're trying to say..but black magic its a cinema camera and it was not designed for youtubers...its like a smaller ,cheaper red camera...which if you think about it ,its a dream for any cinematographer who is starting out and canot afford to buy a red camera...it doesnt make sense to vlog on a black magic pocket camera...but they could release a new model for vlogers..for example black magic 4k vlogger camera..instead of pocket...and they could add flip screen and autofocus..that would be a great idea...but what black magic pocket 4k offers at the price of 1k$ thats amazing...that sony a7siii costs like 4 times more and you still have to buy a gimbal and lenses to make a movie....and dont get me wrong i love sony a7siii
You just repeated everything he said in a less entertaining way except got the pricing wrong. The A7siii doesn't need a gimbal because it has solid IBIS. To rig out a BMPCC will cost you $1300 for the camera + $200 for the cage and rig + $300 for the gimbal + $600 for the monitor + $150 for the vmount battery and rig mount + $200 for the follow focus. That's $2750 and probably about 4 or 5 lbs added weight. And you still won't have autofocus or the shallow depth of field or the low light capabilities of the A7siii. And you won't be able to take stills in any meaningful way. And if you shoot in the rain you'll probably ruin your BMPCC because it's not weather sealed.
@@NickZukin what? so you dont need a gimbal with a7siii ? what are you talking about ? of course you need a gimbal with any camera!
Cage and monitor are optional..Black magic pocket has a build in monitor..which is even bigger than the one on a7siii
Cinema cameras do not come with autofocus and most cinematographers do not like or use autofocus..Only youtubers & amateurs prefer autofocus!
"You wont have the shallow depth of field" ....thats all about the lens you will choose to use and has nothing to do with the camera! Same applies for any camera!
As about weather sealed it doesnt mean that you can just go in the rain with sony a7siii and film and everything will be ok because its weather sealed..you still have to protect your camera!
You clearly dont know what you are talking about..
@@JohnAmaro_Official "you need a gimbal with any camera" -- dude, you lost all credibility with this statement.
@@NickZukin ok:)
It was never intended to be the camera for TH-cam hobos filming themselves. It's meant to be used on a rig on a movie set with at least a small crew.
First time over here, instant SUB! Also, I'm sure you could easily switch to stand up comedy 🤣
i will never choose compressed h264 over RAW whatever sony has to offer, the film look the depth of colors. the camera choice depends on what you are. if you are a vlogger then go for sony, but if you are a serious filmaker then go for bm. lots of cinematographers uses bm dont complain about what you said we just dont care about it. everybody should respect everyone for their camera choices
BMPCC 6k is APS-C, not sure which one Gerald has now. This is not vlogging camera, just entry level cinema camera you can rig up. You can for sure do studio vlogs with it. Focus can be pulled either via Tilta nucleus nano or manual follow focus with whip if you want to film yourself. But with F1.8 lens on APS-C (which is ~F/2.8 on FF taking in mind BMPCC 6k crop ratio) you can be in focus even if you move a bit (you got around 8cm of focus plain). You can also focus BMD cameras using ATEM Mini switcher :). I thought Sony A6xxx/A7XX HLG is really nice quality picture, but when compared with BMD BRAW it looks like s..t :). Definitely A7S3 is better for vlogging outside, inside BMPCC 6k creates much better image than your combo from this video.
Hey man, I think that these two cameras are meant for different things. The Pocket 4k is meant for budget cinematographers who make films while the A7Siii is meant for Sony fanboys, wedding videographers, vloggers (if you want overkill it), maybe even short film makers but not cinematographers. Everything on the Pocket 4k makes sense for a cinematographer. However, point taken in the usability section, it sucks. I left mine on my shelf until I was ready to film, for everything else I had the Panasonic G9, because the G9 was great for everything else, and as far as I am concerned, great IQ. For TH-cam the Pocket 4k doesn't make sense and I guess in many situations but for what it was designed for, I don't think that I prefer another camera.
The DJI Pocket 2 could be the perfect everyday small vlog camera.
Your statement regarding simplicity and the want of the Sony FDR-X4000...Thumbs up and a new subscriber for you!
True, I had to initially put a Thumbs Down for the video (even though I didn't want to) and then unsubscribe so I subscribe again, but you deserved a new subscriber with that statement!! (And for using the Holy Grail of Cameras today...Mighty impressed!)
3:47 this is called real color grading 😂👍
I really fuck with bro. His humor not for everybody and that’s what makes him great
Candice for Prime Minister 2020!
Why is the dynamic range so good?
They put black magic into it
It blew my mind when you went into the dark room and still lol looks usable
I have a Black Magic 4k and a 1DX mark ii. I only use the BMPCC4K and a tripod and for audio. The 1 DX is for close up and b-roll. The 1DX has amazing auto focus and colors. NO c-log and it's heavy. I've been considering trading in both for a A7S iii.
Dude BMPCC4k is just the best.. im having a blast with mine.
I agree with you. I have a BMPCC and a canon t3i.
I much prefer using the T3i cuz it’s much straightforward. The BMPCC takes so much effort, and I only use it when I actually have time to prepare for the shoot and set up for tripod and mics and extra time to fiddle with the settings.
But i don't remember Blackmagic ever mentioning this camera for vloggers. What was the need of this video? There is a world beyond vloggers. Also, why the hell someone should buy a 5000 CAD camera just for vlogging. A7S iii is great camera but you don't need it for vlogging.
why the hell would someone be vlogging
Actually, the way lot of people calling A7Siii as great vlogging camera makes me think that Sony is paying many people to target vloggers to but it. Fir vloggers canon rp, a6500, g85 are great enough.
What about the recording button in front of the camera? Why is that second one there?
@@_systemd So you can watch their videos and leave a comment about "why the hell would someone be vlogging"....
@@HrPedrosak true, its to get views. It is easy to find faults in any product. But reality is everyone have different needs. Like Lumix s5 is a great budget FF hybrid camera if you can manual focus. May be a used xt3 might be best and cheap camera for vlogging.
Camera Conspiracy - why i never talked about Blackmagic cameras. well i am a vlogger not a film maker and BMPCC cameras are not for vlogging, i also can't do manual focus while making videos. but for Cinema/Narrative work image quality is amazing.
The search is over. 🔥
Haha I have a BMPCC4K and I'm really happy with it (except for battery lifetime) but mostly cause I don't shoot myself xD I actually like manual focusing and having control hehe but yeah I used to have a sony a6300 with a sony 50mm and autofocus was really good for gimbal work. I didnt like the colors much though. And about the dynamic range of the m4/3 I don't know the exact technical details but the fact that black magic manufactures and develops their own technology for the sensors is really amazing. Their colour science is really top notch.
You and Gerald are like two peas in a space pod.
mr. conspiracy has taken the plunge and got the black magic! the cinema is his.
Nah, Blackmagic cameras are fine for vlogging.
You just need to add the following to your kit while filming:
- camera operator (for framing) + camera assistant (for reloading the batteries between takes)
- focus puller (to stay in focus, duh)
- sound engineer/boom operator (for sound monitoring and ambient sound mix)
- gimball operator (to have stable images, duh)
- DIT (to manage the enormous data throughput through the day)
...
And as bonus you may need
- color grading artist (to get the best colors for your vlogs)
- logistics manager/driver (to get the crew what it needs/where it's needed)
- catering (of course)
...
Or you could go the Gerald way with this very conspicuous contraption.
*But that looks less convenient.*
Marques Brownlee will sick his 50 thousand dollar cameras on you.
Hahaahahah
Okey good info i love it my starter cam is DJI pocket 2 combo set .
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- *Fred Rogers* 🏡
Is there room in this world for passenger cars and 18 wheeled trucks? Can we see the need for each? Blackmagic knows their users and they use external stabilization, monitors, focus controllers, external batteries, professional audio, timecode, studio switchers, etc.
Great camera and AWESOME in bad lit places; We all love the boardroom meetings...LOL
Ohh the colours 😍😍 you and Gerald look like big cinema on that BM4k 🤗
You’ve stayed in focus throughout a video congratulations. The Sony colour isn’t great though. So I guess the quest for the perfect camera still goes on.
I now have a blackmagic pocket 4K and absolutely love it, the image quality is next level. I had several Sonys before including the a7iii and I can tell you for sure they don’t look as good as the blackmagic.
Have you looked at the ARRI ALEXA LF? It is ARRI's answer to the Sony X3000. Perfect for vlogging.
LOL
So yeah you don’t need a Sony A7 S3 but damn this is so CRISP. Best image quality we’ve seen from you. That bokeh and that nice background. Loving it.
I think shooting in a RAW format allows more room for error. However, it can also be at the cost of extra time in post. But cinema cameras require entirely different equipment and shooting styles.
Can you drop a lut pack for what you did at 3:45?
Followed you for years brotha love this channel. But I just think all cameras have their uses. For instance. A Pocket 4k/6k camera would be perfect for your talking in your office shots. Like this video is. As a studio/don't take it anywhere camera. Don't really need "usability" for videos like this. So it can literally just stay on a tripod permanently in your office space. I'm pretty sure now at your level you can definitely afford a the permanent setup. Dedicated screen nearby just off camera etc. I mean that sounds simple to me imo. A dedicated setup, you literally just turn on the lights and hit record.
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Broooo, just realized , you remind me of a slightly more spicy , Film version of Ramsey Dewey , with hair , haha. Good shiiiiz🤘🏾
Agreed: usability and fund to use is really important. I wonder if you've ever tried m43 with a SpeedBooster? You might get the toneh-glory you're looking for... but does it autofocus well (in videomode)? There are many different ones - Metabones considered the best. Time for a test of those vs the cheaper ones? Checked with Camera Canada - no speedbooster in their store. Does speedbosters exist in Canada at all? Are they illegal to use? Too much boosting of the speed?
I swear!! I was going to say "what has happened that the video seems so high quality"! until he revealed the great Sony A7SIII