Flying the FGR2 & F-4C Phantom | 'Black' Robertson (Part 1)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.พ. 2021
- In this interview, we chat with 'Black' Robertson about flying the FGR2 with 6 Squadron, what it was like to fly it in both the air-to-air and ground attack role, his USAF exchange flying the F-4C as an instructor, the difference between flying the FGR2 & the C model, and much more with some great personal stories mixed in!
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Just started reading his book, "Fighters in the Blood", given to me as birthday present by my son and his family.
This is my old station commander from RAF Wattisham while I was on 56 (F) Sqn, great Station Commander. Hope you're well Sir.
what year?
@@glennhardacre5366 1986 ish
I was at Wattisham at the 1989 airshow
This gentleman is such a joy to listen to, thank you for making this interview.
Great to hear you enjoyed it.
What a thoroughly nice gentleman.
Great interview. Exchange tours were great experiences. I did mine as the USMC exchange RIO (Navigator) on 228 OCU at Coningsby 1975-1978
Cheers David.
My oldest friend, whom I met at school, flew Phantoms from Leuchars in 111 Squadron and in the Falklands and by coincidence he was also called Robertson!
Great interview as expected. Eagerly awaiting the second part, and I hope you have him on again afterwards.
Thank you.
Great interview, love the variety of characters of Aircrew, the humour, the enthusiasm and interesting stories, great Interview Mike, looking forward to part 2 😊👍
Cheers mate!
It is so intriguing to trace the cultural differences between individuals coming from seemingly “similar” nations.
About the ranks:
In Canada, we use RAF-style shoulder slip-ons, but we use American rank names. For example, we don't say 'flying officer'; we say 'second lieutenant'. We don't say 'flight lieutenant'; we say 'captain'. The military salute in Canada is just like the American military salute, rather than the palm-up British salute.
I feel the Phantom looks right at home in the green & gray UK paint scheme. Something about the jet's bulbosity makes it fit right in with other British warplanes..
Sad to report that Grp Capt David Baron, who gets a mention at 20mins 40 secs in, passed away suddenly last Christmas eve.
Recently found your channel and man do I really love it! As a Phantom freak I'd could listen to those who flew her and maintained her endlessly.
I take my hat off to Wingco Black. Fantastic Bloke.
Great interview. Thanks for playing your part in keeping us safe.
Thanks Alistair.
Quality questions asked. V Good interview.
Thank you.
Excellent content as usual! Thank you.
Rich.
Cheers Rich.
FGR2 had the RR Spey, a turbofan, with approximately 20,000lbs of thrust each with reheat, whereas the F-4C had the GE J79, a turbojet, with approximately 16,000lbs thrust, each with afterburner. Since the Speys were larger than the J79s, the fuselage of the FGR2 and FG1 was redesigned to take it. Due to this, the British Phantoms have more drag than the American Phantoms.
From what I heard, the British Phantoms had better initial acceleration due to the greater thrust, and are less "smoky." American Phantoms had better top end speed. Mach2.2 vs Mach2 for the British Phantoms.
The J79 had much quicker initial acceleration than the spey , the spey would catch it easily at low altitude though , at high altitude the spey had nothing for the j79 .
Very interesting easy to listen to,nice guy
I know the tale of the flying through the trees, at least one tale of that . Too long to tell here BUT its real
It looks like a model of a Saab 39 Gripen on the right side of Mr Robertson?
It is. He managed to get a flight in one which we discuss in part 2 that is out tomorrow.
Quite good that is
Larry? I love Seinfeld sir!
27:15 If I get into an argument with my wife, I just pull the EJECT handle.
Wish i could of been born in an era where flying any of these types was even possible! Phantoms, buccaneers, lightnings, sea vixens, hunters etc etc. Was born too late to even see any of them fly (except for a hunter at an airshow), let alone even have a glimmer of hope of being able to join the air force and fly them. The air force we have now is comparitively TINY, and i just knew fully well i was never ever gonna get the chance to become a pilot in the air force what with all the exceptionally bright competition, and very few spots to even become one. Even just a private pilots licence is impossible to acquire on a minimum wage job, so i guess my dream of being a pilot just has to die...
- Could you tell me about your DACT experience?
- Yeah I learned a lot.
- ? Thanks
What's a Dutch roll?
If you are in a coffee shop in Amsterdam he would be rolling a joint 😊
A common "bad flying " technique of over correcting , cind of role wobble back and forth .
As a non-Brit and non-'murican;
What's the deal with the "Turkey"-slang story? :)
In this context, a Turkey is a brand-new, inexperienced lout who has yet to learn what he/she doesn't know, who will wander into danger without realizing it. Usually this wears off as training and experience make their marks.
The American Domestic (Farm) Turkey is a slow, dopey beast incapable of flight, which is potentially capable of drowning itself in a rainstorm. Wild Turkeys, on the other hand, are observant, clever beasts with excellent situational awareness, capable of quick movement on the ground, using concealment, aggressive when need be, and are, in fact, good fliers.