Are My Paintings Really By L.S. Lowry? | Fake Or Fortune | Perspective

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  • Fiona Bruce and Philip Mould investigate whether three small paintings are really the work of one of Britain's best-loved modern artists, L.S. Lowry, who is one of the most forged artists in history.
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ความคิดเห็น • 110

  • @darilynkrupp6309
    @darilynkrupp6309 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    Bit of art, bit of history and science, bit of mystery and personality, and completely enjoyable to watch.

    • @BOSSofLA
      @BOSSofLA ปีที่แล้ว +1

      🥠🥤😌 🍿

    • @RLucas3000
      @RLucas3000 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This will be my third episode. The first i watched was two paintings of people of color and it was a joy filled episode. The second was of two experts, the original who knew the artist and agreed that a painting was by him, but she had passed, and the new expert who wouldn’t bend, and was two cowardly to appear on the show, despite all the scientific proof they presented. You could tell that while I’m sure the owner did care about the painting’s value, she cared most about the painting itself. It left me very sad that this second ‘expert’ wouldn’t even listen to science (like many idiots today). I feel like the owner should sue the ‘expert’ and let them both present evidence in court! I’m hoping this episode has a happier ending, like the first.

  • @2blutigers749
    @2blutigers749 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I never heard of the artist but I loved and thoroughly enjoyed the research of this the artist and his works. Now I know more about Lowry than my husband. It is a brilliant documentary.

  • @carolynmcpherson2667
    @carolynmcpherson2667 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Brilliant to bring in the forger! He has a point of view no one else can match.

    • @melanies.6030
      @melanies.6030 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was wondering just how long it took him to do that painting and whether Fiona stood there chatting with him the whole time.

    • @bethbartlett5692
      @bethbartlett5692 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It was, and this show really is one of the more exciting journeys.
      A copy of my Comment Thoughts, you might find interesting:
      Like a journey of clues to discover Treasures:
      This is such a journey of teamwork with a cohesive focus on attaining the truth and in this joint desire their energies are rewarded with delicious facts that include science, Physics, chemistry, and the Behavioral Science sneaks into the experience.
      Human Nature and choices, the little side rooms of our personal experiences when we make choices that are unique, not in keeping with habit or routine, and which normally remain unknown.
      Not necessarily any sort of malicious intent, rather an exploding, and with specific relationship to the 5 colors of Windsor and Newton, the Artist remained loyal, he merely was exploring "Elements" offered of the White Paint range.
      It was a particularly enjoyable watch, given that "from my areas of interests and focus, I understand a bit more of the Human Nature, Human Behaviors, and can easily say this Artist really didn't mislead anyone with his statement, he merely either opted to explore the WN Whites for his own Artistic desires, and/or didn't have the need to explain that it was more than WN White, actually adding a degree 9f expert knowledge to his works for the future investigations to validate his paintings as authentic.
      I found this so interesting, as if the Artist was giving the search for Authenticity a value of delicious discoveries.
      It was like clues to where the Treasure is to be found, ... and they did!
      Excellent, truly a successful adventure!
      Beth Bartlett
      Sociologist/Behavioralist
      and Historian

  • @donstclair4619
    @donstclair4619 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Yes! I started binge watching this series a couple weeks ago and just ran out of episodes last night! Perfect timing - thanks perspective
    Phillip and Fiona are a great team btw

  • @TheFiown
    @TheFiown ปีที่แล้ว +7

    When I was in college, one of my friend's father had a large collection of Lowrys. I still remember being impressed by them but not wholy understanding the style as we were educated in anatomy and more realism. I still love them and today it's more my taste, but not my budget!

  • @crush3095
    @crush3095 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I said it before while watching a Waldemar
    This is the greatest TH-cam channel ever made

  • @Engelhafen
    @Engelhafen ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I used to paint with lead white in the 70s as a kid and people began to become very concerned with that pigment around then and many artists switched to something less toxic.

  • @michaelmottlau5941
    @michaelmottlau5941 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The audio in these episodes are absolutetly brilliant. Very well done to the person behind the audio recordings. I would love to hear what kind of microphones was used and where the lavalier microphones were mounted on the body of the hosts of this programme.

  • @user-yd6ef1yo9d
    @user-yd6ef1yo9d 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This was an especially enjoyable episode, perhaps because the genre is modern folk art. As far as the 5-color formula, this is a tribute to the artist's forsight and cleverness, because he came up with a way to fake the fakers by appearing to naively give away a secret to his techniique, At least some forger will have tried it, failed, and gone on to easier artists to copy.

  • @edvin884
    @edvin884 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm just a lorry/truck/semi driver. Never had an interest in art. But with this show I've learned so so much.

  • @MasterAlgae
    @MasterAlgae ปีที่แล้ว +17

    "What do you need to do to fake a Lowry?" I would have said, "You need to make it look like a Lowry." I guess that's why I'm not an art expert!😆😆

    • @WVgirl1959
      @WVgirl1959 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Sounds reasonable to me. Lol

  • @caroleketelsen5445
    @caroleketelsen5445 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    great job. I enjoy your programs very much, for both the mystery and the art education

  • @stevie-ray2020
    @stevie-ray2020 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Seeing the Jensen Interceptor in the background of the photo of his parents says he also had good taste in motor cars!
    As for the discrepancy in the use of zinc or titanium white paints, it's easily explained by the fact that those paints were used in the preparation of the board prior to the actual painting (there's a specific term for this which I can't recall), and as lead-based paints became restricted for household paints that would've driven up the manufacturing costs for artist's paints using lead-oxide.
    Perhaps Lowry was also trying to reduce his exposure to lead?

    • @jessicamendes3805
      @jessicamendes3805 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Used to prime the canvas?

    • @pauladouglas9891
      @pauladouglas9891 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The photos show the boxes of these types of white paint in his studio

    • @pauladouglas9891
      @pauladouglas9891 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Finally, a picture of the disputed painting in the artist's actual studio.

    • @pauladouglas9891
      @pauladouglas9891 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, another positive outcome

  • @katharinatrub1338
    @katharinatrub1338 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Really, Fiona, Philipe and Bendor Grosvenor left again, No Stone unturned! And I discovered an Artist I never herd of nor did I like particularly his painting at first. but, after having watched L.S.Lowry talk and paint in his Studio, watched the Documentary..., they grew on me.
    I feel very happy to be able to go from one Fake or Fortune the next... !

  • @hudlifuk
    @hudlifuk ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for this programme, I learn new names of art history.

  • @Honeydew70
    @Honeydew70 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Exciting episode!!

  • @kerrykrishna
    @kerrykrishna ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Absolutely outstanding work here Team.

  • @anthonymorales842
    @anthonymorales842 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    By far my favorite episode. The dedication and the resources to bring this forward, just extraordinary

  • @shannonrice-nichols8575
    @shannonrice-nichols8575 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I enjoyed this one a lot. Thank you

  • @mondomacabromajor5731
    @mondomacabromajor5731 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Outstanding episode...

  • @bethbartlett5692
    @bethbartlett5692 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Windsor and Newton the brand I routinely use, and some Rembrandt, a delicious paint.

  • @mn7669
    @mn7669 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Absolutely love this series !

  • @africo9104
    @africo9104 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing ! Loved this video.

  • @patricksanders858
    @patricksanders858 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The gallery should have contacted the buyer to explain the situation and hopefully they could contact Fake or Fortune.

  • @susanhazard632
    @susanhazard632 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lowry was using five colors. Whether it was lead, titanium or zinc white, it was white. Sometimes you buy what you can afford, or what is available.

  • @SmithMrCorona
    @SmithMrCorona ปีที่แล้ว

    Remember when shows just used to start? Now we have to watch it before we watch it.

  • @evanescapades2513
    @evanescapades2513 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brilliant!!! 10/10

  • @tamayagarner1542
    @tamayagarner1542 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i really enjoyed this one

  • @cjpenning
    @cjpenning ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have a hard time believing they just unexpectedly saw the one painting in that film. It may have been unexpected by the owner, but I think it was a setup.

    • @patmcphillips2530
      @patmcphillips2530 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Of course it was. It's a television program. Nothing unexpected can happen. It's all scripted and planned out. TV shows are expensive to make and can't go awry.

  • @normanmerrill1241
    @normanmerrill1241 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant …exciting…….well done…stay safe

  • @francesacoy4730
    @francesacoy4730 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You had evidence from the film of one picture in Lowry's studio.

  • @lynnaliya1
    @lynnaliya1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Who is the artist and painter of the woman in the orange dress and black hat painting in Ben’s studio when they discover the zinc white?

  • @Engelhafen
    @Engelhafen ปีที่แล้ว

    He looks very textural - match the textures

  • @LiveInSydney
    @LiveInSydney ปีที่แล้ว

    In my collection, my dream piece would be a Lowry

  • @ordiekelleher2641
    @ordiekelleher2641 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love art

  • @dross24MA
    @dross24MA 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ?Question ? Does discovering that Lowry used different whites mean that some paintings which may have been deemed fakes previously due to the use of other white pigments are now up for re-evaluation?

  • @falkhammermuller9342
    @falkhammermuller9342 ปีที่แล้ว

    Unreal what you guys dig out. I don't think Sherlock Holmes would have found that film, the picture with the zinc white, or went on to find an auction with a neighbor lot number.

  • @charleswood2182
    @charleswood2182 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wonderful episode, even enlisting the help of faker. No stone left unturned, eh?

  • @gregb6469
    @gregb6469 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It's great that the three paintings in question turned out to be the real McCoy, but I don't get the enthusiasm for Lowry; his works remind me of what you would get from the better students in a high school art class. I wouldn't have given five bucks for any of them, but for Lowry's sake I'm glad there were those willing to pay enough for them that he earned a good living.

    • @jaydubya3698
      @jaydubya3698 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      As someone who loves and appreciates many types of art, I can see how it's difficult for many people to like art created by someone like Lowry: it's primitive, crude, naive...the technique isn't polished, it looks like something a 5 year old could do. The same could be said for a number of well-known artists: Horace Pippin, Grandma Moses, Bill Traylor, even living painters like Peter Doig. But what it comes down to is that it's not always technique that's necessarily important. It has more to do with feeling, charm...sometimes it's whimsy, sometimes it's some sort of darker truth that's revealed. And that's why today you see more of an acceptance of "outsider" art because in the eyes of many, the art is less sterile, less filtered. But I get it. I used to think the same way.

    • @Tusker78TogetherForever
      @Tusker78TogetherForever ปีที่แล้ว

      He painted for himself long before he was excepted and eventually after he'd been a rent collector made lots of money in his 60's

    • @melanies.6030
      @melanies.6030 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Tusker78TogetherForever *accepted

  • @quistwing
    @quistwing ปีที่แล้ว

    was this the first time anyone had ever seen that photograph of him? bc i cant believe him using titanium white was an unknown fact or something to be exposed, if he's photographed so clearly with it in his studio

  • @shucksma6337
    @shucksma6337 ปีที่แล้ว

    Statis Quo wrote a song about Ls Lowry !Called Match stick MEN and you.

  • @simonhawker9277
    @simonhawker9277 ปีที่แล้ว

    as long as there has been art there have been forgeries so there is risk in any investment, buy art for love not for money then if its a fake you wont care, if it was about beauty to begin with,

  • @MultiMolly21
    @MultiMolly21 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Are we here to be happy? If not, why are we here? Look to the stars, and a time when our Sun is no more; and we simply pick up our weapons and turn them to plowshares, but we are plowing the stars to find new gardens, new places for life to thrive. We cannot do this without our past habit of fighting with increasingly sophisticated weapons. Now that we have them, war is vestigial, but the fighting continutes out of habit. Let's learn to live without it, as it has served a noble purpose that will save all of "life everlasting, Amen". Now it just drains our resources and will leave us all penniless.

  • @markashdown1314
    @markashdown1314 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    There are more bent Lowry works than real ones.

    • @Tusker78TogetherForever
      @Tusker78TogetherForever ปีที่แล้ว

      Just enjoy the art for what it is....if not sure don't buy it, get a poster instead;)

  • @Engelhafen
    @Engelhafen ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m imagining his father prob did a business deal in exchange for the paintings

  • @timrutter5025
    @timrutter5025 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yet another repackaging of Fake or Fortune....very very anoying bearing in mind that the new programme on Perspective are often not available in some countries. An explanation would be appreciated....hopefully Waldemar's new series on Mannerisms will be available EVERYWHERE

  • @leonardoluc6362
    @leonardoluc6362 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the show. Not sure if this the greatest Art not close to the likes of Vincent or Rembrandt but interesting show to watch non the less., thanks.

  • @Asia-sk8lc
    @Asia-sk8lc ปีที่แล้ว

    I agree their are loving dads that need their childrentoo. Im single and raised my son without his father support. All i asked was for him to be in his life. Has time went by my son gets no answer. Best believe i called and knocked on his door. I had to relocate and best believe i drove miles to get our son to him and still no answer. Iv been ill from some time now and best believe im trying but i cant do it anymore im so tired yall.

  • @patricksanders858
    @patricksanders858 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just thinking... Wouldn't it be interesting if paint manufacturers would put in special markers in their paints from time to time in order to defeat counterfeiters.

  • @MrMRW14
    @MrMRW14 ปีที่แล้ว

    That’s not Neston! For historical experts that’s a blasphemy! That’s Parkgate. A place of huge historical significance. Kings if the day docked there and stayed at local houses that still stand now

  • @mazinagha3952
    @mazinagha3952 ปีที่แล้ว +1

  • @NhoyskieIbanez
    @NhoyskieIbanez ปีที่แล้ว

    This is how Mr. Gerald got the paintings, one day Mr. Lowry missed the train again, by that time Mr. Gerald was about to go to the airfield want to try to fly the newly bought private plain. that time Mr. Lowry was walking back home when Mr. Gerald ask him where hes going, and offer for a free flight to his destination.. and in good faith Mr. Lawry give the 3 paintings. and thats how they started good friends, eventually Mr. Lowry is fairy god father of Mr. Stevens. 😉 (just an imagination) 😊

  • @showshowthecloneclown8428
    @showshowthecloneclown8428 ปีที่แล้ว

    "The words of the prophets are written on the subway walls and tenement halls" . To counterfeit these is to amplyfi the message .

  • @Tusker78TogetherForever
    @Tusker78TogetherForever ปีที่แล้ว

    Early Biro...classic🤣😂

    • @melanies.6030
      @melanies.6030 ปีที่แล้ว

      Had to Google that. Never heard of that term.

  • @elizabethhurtado2829
    @elizabethhurtado2829 ปีที่แล้ว

    😊

  • @amygirl9534
    @amygirl9534 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Anyone else upset at how Le Favre screwed them over?

  • @reversemodeinstereos
    @reversemodeinstereos ปีที่แล้ว

    Azure in Ashen White too🌈✌️🧕🌈✌️💗💖💯

  • @scottgordon1781
    @scottgordon1781 ปีที่แล้ว

    Art is art and Fiona is a fox :-)

  • @catofthecastle1681
    @catofthecastle1681 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really, none of you get this artist’s idea? Art isn’t about technical drawings! If that’s all required, you might as well take a photograph! It’s about what this says, the importance of architecture over humanity, everything in humanity seems small and grotesque. The more people there are in the world, the less important they become, the artist is reminding us that we’re all individuals no matter how much the concrete rises above us! I think he was cool and forward thinking!

  • @mon_avis2978
    @mon_avis2978 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ah, a happy ending.

  • @francismarcoux8944
    @francismarcoux8944 ปีที่แล้ว

    Its more a autographe they are buying morebthen beauty or skills

  • @Dayna-Punky
    @Dayna-Punky ปีที่แล้ว

    I would think after everything that the copiest went through that you couldn't pay him enough to ever paint another artist's work again....I guess not.

  • @raycochrane3971
    @raycochrane3971 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It is difficult to relate to the travails of the "property developer" son of a "self made man" with regard to works of art acquired through cloudy means. The investigation is fine...a little stilted as usual due to Mr Mould's language...and the the tech is always amazing. The owner's words: "it's about his memory, really. He wasn't the type of person who would be duped." Say a lot. Option 3: original Lowry stuff bought on the dodge. Rich man gets an investigation/verification for free...as is the way of the wealthy.

    • @baylorsailor
      @baylorsailor ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Try a different episode.

    • @raycochrane3971
      @raycochrane3971 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@baylorsailor I watched them all when they were on the TV and am re-watching.

  • @elizabethhurtado2829
    @elizabethhurtado2829 ปีที่แล้ว

    💵💵💵

  • @yanchouser7364
    @yanchouser7364 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I hat to be a killjoy, but I was drawing things like that when I was at school. Good, clever, is all I got.

  • @elizabethhurtado2829
    @elizabethhurtado2829 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's all recorded

  • @reversemodeinstereos
    @reversemodeinstereos ปีที่แล้ว

    Probably Original...Lead and Soot.

  • @elizabethhurtado2829
    @elizabethhurtado2829 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    🦝

  • @eugenecepeda5104
    @eugenecepeda5104 ปีที่แล้ว

    There is a lot of pictures that PASSES for art.

    • @catsapp
      @catsapp ปีที่แล้ว +2

      even your comment is art

  • @mmfitter6731
    @mmfitter6731 ปีที่แล้ว

    'What a dude your father was.'

  • @roselee4445
    @roselee4445 ปีที่แล้ว

    So how much did Steven have to pay for this research?

  • @randolphfriend8260
    @randolphfriend8260 ปีที่แล้ว

    💙 🥲

  • @warrenwalker8170
    @warrenwalker8170 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    they are only half way to being "Art" and should be worth in total 10,000 at best - but hey the galleries set the price - ponzi style

  • @johnrogers2826
    @johnrogers2826 ปีที่แล้ว

    "What do you need to do to fake a Lowry?" Get a 10 year old to paint something. One of those emperors new clothes artists. Face it, they're terrible. Faked so much because just about anyone can paint that bad.

  • @georgedobler7490
    @georgedobler7490 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Horrendous stuff, real or not.

    • @ogribiker8535
      @ogribiker8535 ปีที่แล้ว

      What a boring world you must live in

  • @richardjones3826
    @richardjones3826 ปีที่แล้ว

    joke

  • @Valkonnen
    @Valkonnen ปีที่แล้ว +3

    When childlike, naïve Folk Art became sought after , that's where you lose me . The guy had NO TALENT as a painter. To find his lack of any skill, "Quaint" is insanity.

  • @reversemodeinstereos
    @reversemodeinstereos ปีที่แล้ว

    A Women needs a man like a fish needs a byclé

  • @pauladouglas9891
    @pauladouglas9891 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sorry, but I find these paintings to be childlike and cartoony

  • @PaulaakaPaben
    @PaulaakaPaben ปีที่แล้ว

    I can not understand some art! Each to his own but I would not Pay $10.00 for any of those pictures! I have an 8 years old Granddaughter that can draw better! I can draw better!

    • @richardparker7121
      @richardparker7121 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Now you got me wondering who can draw better between you or you Granddaughter…? Tell us- don’t lie!

  • @Henry1814
    @Henry1814 ปีที่แล้ว

    Such boring, trivial work. Bid for thousands of pounds? Back to my crayons and full of hope.

    • @richardparker7121
      @richardparker7121 ปีที่แล้ว

      A crayon- like style of similar graphic oriented figures in crowds, taking bent poses, may be seen in the works of Keith Herring.
      Look into Keith Herring’s work, you may just love how hopeful his figures are.
      Good luck to you with your drawing!