Yah that doesn't look great. I need to look at my defenders but they don't have that much flex in that spot. I wonder if a screw or push pin is missing on this one. I prefer the ride, power, and comfort of my Can-Ams over any japanese brands. Plus I have two defenders with 13500 miles and the only thing done to them is some clutch work. I really do like the Yamahas I just wish they would stick the 850 twin in the viking and add some ground clearance, adjustable steering wheel and seat. Then they would have a winner.
@@josephwhiskeybeale I've had mine for quite some time with no issues!! All the Polaris Rangers I've been around have really disappointed. The motors are prone to blow apart and if you back up in turf mode the transmissions case cracks open. The Japanese brands are ok but underpowered tremendously. I will hang with my Can Am thanks!
@@josephwhiskeybeale I guess I don't know what I was doing when I purchased my 2017 Defender! Actually it turned out to be a very nice Machine, and I NEVER had ANY issues with it. I sold it to get the Sport Canam, and it Too has never had an issue. I have seen Canam defenders and MAVERICK SPORT machines that have over 6000 miles, and still running well.
This needs to make a trip to the Happy Yak for a thorough shakedown. Bet it doesn’t have to go back to the dealership, like other “Defenders” that we know
It could be made street legal in some states, but with those locked rear differentials it would not be fun to drive or try to keep tires on. I have a Defender HD8. It has been a great machine.
You know what would be cool? Get a 4x8 foot camper and slide it on on the back. Even better (though we're creeping up in cost here) is a track kit and a camper. Ultimate backcountry ski basecamp. I guess you could always just put the same camper on a sled and tow it in. What I guess I'm saying is that I like skiing and I like being comfortable and It would be cool to have both.
can-am ATV's and UTV's are assembled in Mexico - I believe. Bombardier started building trains and plains in Mexico and then BRP spun off and continued with Rotax motors as well. Rotax also tried making/assembling motorcycle engines in Taïwan with some spotty results I think.
One thing I don't like about the 6x6 (we have a 6x6 big boss 500) is the fact that it's damn near useless in 4 wheel drive because the ground pressure of 4 big tires under an empty bed is pretty low and so is traction. It's only really used if you don't have a load and you don't need a lot of traction. the 6x6 traction advantage is real though, I can pull out a 1500 lbs boat pretty easily our of some very deep fine sand and it works pretty well in the snow so long as its no deeper than the diff since it won't float and gets high centered on that long chassis pretty easy. I have no doubts about its ability to haul 1700 lbs; We can overload ours to the moon and it still handles fine and goes. The only thing I don't like about their 6x6 system is their hilliard clutch front hubs which are a little finicky and don't like to engage in the cold.
There are already people adding camper shells or even small slide in campers to these. The payload rating is very conservative, more so if you fit a set of aftermarket springs. They are also being fitted out as brush fire and backwoods rescue rigs, which they are perfect for. Where most machines can only handle 50 gallons of water on board these can handle much more and even tow a full water tote on a trailer behind.
@@maxdorito yeah to each their own, but it literally makes no logical sense. It will do nothing at all, actually less then something of the same cost. People also pay over $100 bucks for a plain white t shirt, doesnt mean it makes any sense at all.
@@shitloveaduck no, but an s10, old Tacoma, or ranger does. These will do essentially nothing even a jeep Comanche will do, it will do drastically less actually. All of these will cost much less, and be more capable and usable.
I’ll stick with my 13 year old Ranger 6x6 the build quality on that CanAm looks like it’s already falling apart especially that dash. Plus 19k no thank you
We had a 04 ranger 6x6 that was junk. Front axel broke so we took it to the dealer and there were $4k in repairs. We decided to only fix the axel and about 20 hours later it stopped running. This at around 700 hours of light work. We just picked up a can am and it is so much nicer to even ride in
You need to get the gator in to compare. Gator will not be as fast, or maybe have as much capacity, however in 10 years, only the gator will still be running.
I get it ( before I get pounced upon), but this sticks with me. The fact that the Can-Am can (is rated to...), carry 300lbs more than my F150 makes no sense (I know it’s not towing at x speed up a grade in y degrees when the moon is in z etc), but the other day watching another video from the Uk where the new HiLux is rated to carry 1200kg and the Ranger is rated for 1280kg! What is up with capacity ratings in the US? If @ford just rated their Ranger over here to match the European rating (rest of World rating), they’d win hands down with buyers wanting to carry a load? Can you guys do a video which explains all this please and makes some sense of these figures for us layman. Keep up the great work. Happy Christmas to all
Disappointed in my defender, with less than 50 miles front end grinds when turning. Couldn’t get the dealer to resolve the problem while under warranty. From the can am forms it’s a common problem.
Am I the only one who thinks the pro is the better work horse? The 6x6 seems more like a toy. The pro has the same large bed and extra storage as its built on the 6 seater frame but with no rear seat
Small correction, PRO is built on the Defender MAX frame. (The space for the under-bed storage comes from where the rear passenger footwell would have been.) Both "toys" will carry a payload of 1,700 lbs but the 6x6 will tow 500 lbs more - 3,000 lbs. vs 2,500 on the PRO.
@@CANAMOFFROAD I forgot the name of the 6 seater but I did call it a 6 seater. When it comes to towing realistically who would tow more than 2k with these either way?
@@james2042 When you look at everyday loads for the type of use the Defender is designed for off-road, typically you're right--not many are hauling 2,000-lb loads daily. It's the maybe more frequent 400-1,000-lb loads over challenging terrain or through greasy / muddy conditions where that extra capability really helps to get the job done & feel confident doing it.
Great side by side but at that price you could find a small used beater 4×4 a lot cheaper and possibly save you marriage if your wife found out how much you paid.
I will never understand why ATVs and UTVs are street legal... they are much safer than 2 wheel vehicles and I see now great difference between these and those stupid looking 3 wheel things... which are street legal...
I hear that! A motorcycle with no windshield, seat belts or roll cage is legal, but UTVs are not in most states. We can tag them for secondary roads here in TN, but in most states you cannot take them on the street at all.
7:19 Not a ringing endorsement of CanAm build quality. You'll rip off half the dash just trying to get to the 12V power outlet.
Why I just bought a Yamaha. The Japanese, in my experience since the 80’s are superior in build quality generally
Yah that doesn't look great. I need to look at my defenders but they don't have that much flex in that spot. I wonder if a screw or push pin is missing on this one. I prefer the ride, power, and comfort of my Can-Ams over any japanese brands. Plus I have two defenders with 13500 miles and the only thing done to them is some clutch work. I really do like the Yamahas I just wish they would stick the 850 twin in the viking and add some ground clearance, adjustable steering wheel and seat. Then they would have a winner.
CanAm is garbage, no one who knows what they’re doing buys one.
@@josephwhiskeybeale I've had mine for quite some time with no issues!! All the Polaris Rangers I've been around have really disappointed. The motors are prone to blow apart and if you back up in turf mode the transmissions case cracks open. The Japanese brands are ok but underpowered tremendously. I will hang with my Can Am thanks!
@@josephwhiskeybeale I guess I don't know what I was doing when I purchased my 2017 Defender! Actually it turned out to be a very nice Machine, and I NEVER had ANY issues with it. I sold it to get the Sport Canam, and it Too has never had an issue. I have seen Canam defenders and MAVERICK SPORT machines that have over 6000 miles, and still running well.
TFL finally gets a "Defender" that actually works as promised?!? LOL
So I guess we can now say you guys have had 4 Defenders... lol
And only 1 of the 4 Defenders, actually worked lol
@@carm2005 🤣
This needs to make a trip to the Happy Yak for a thorough shakedown. Bet it doesn’t have to go back to the dealership, like other “Defenders” that we know
Off-road comparison time. A side by side test of a side by side defender vs a overpriced broken down British defender
It could be made street legal in some states, but with those locked rear differentials it would not be fun to drive or try to keep tires on. I have a Defender HD8. It has been a great machine.
Actually the Ford Ranger does offer a six foot bed!
It's a mini pick-up...Nice..I want one now ☺ Thanks Andre!!
You know what would be cool? Get a 4x8 foot camper and slide it on on the back. Even better (though we're creeping up in cost here) is a track kit and a camper. Ultimate backcountry ski basecamp. I guess you could always just put the same camper on a sled and tow it in. What I guess I'm saying is that I like skiing and I like being comfortable and It would be cool to have both.
can-am ATV's and UTV's are assembled in Mexico - I believe. Bombardier started building trains and plains in Mexico and then BRP spun off and continued with Rotax motors as well. Rotax also tried making/assembling motorcycle engines in Taïwan with some spotty results I think.
One thing I don't like about the 6x6 (we have a 6x6 big boss 500) is the fact that it's damn near useless in 4 wheel drive because the ground pressure of 4 big tires under an empty bed is pretty low and so is traction. It's only really used if you don't have a load and you don't need a lot of traction. the 6x6 traction advantage is real though, I can pull out a 1500 lbs boat pretty easily our of some very deep fine sand and it works pretty well in the snow so long as its no deeper than the diff since it won't float and gets high centered on that long chassis pretty easy. I have no doubts about its ability to haul 1700 lbs; We can overload ours to the moon and it still handles fine and goes. The only thing I don't like about their 6x6 system is their hilliard clutch front hubs which are a little finicky and don't like to engage in the cold.
Looks like possibly my future utv for the family farm and logging 😉
Are the diff’s always open in 4x4? Then maybe locked in 6x6 or are they always open diff’s???
The rear diffs are always locked. The front diff is only engaged when you switch to 6 wheel drive and it is a "visco lock".
Thats what I'd want if I ever build an off grid cabin!
Great footage of the sun and glare! Lol
JJ Abrams approved! Lmao
The 6x6 would make a cool overland rig that box could support a rack a roof tent! Also all the other goodies!
There are already people adding camper shells or even small slide in campers to these. The payload rating is very conservative, more so if you fit a set of aftermarket springs. They are also being fitted out as brush fire and backwoods rescue rigs, which they are perfect for. Where most machines can only handle 50 gallons of water on board these can handle much more and even tow a full water tote on a trailer behind.
I never understood the cost of these, I can buy a cj5 or cj7 for less, have heat/air, and can drive it on the streets.
they found folks willing to pay it! so they charge it, and if someone can make money using one, more power to them
And not everybody wants an old vehicle. To each his own
@@maxdorito yeah to each their own, but it literally makes no logical sense. It will do nothing at all, actually less then something of the same cost. People also pay over $100 bucks for a plain white t shirt, doesnt mean it makes any sense at all.
@@shitloveaduck no, but an s10, old Tacoma, or ranger does. These will do essentially nothing even a jeep Comanche will do, it will do drastically less actually. All of these will cost much less, and be more capable and usable.
@@shitloveaduck I will, because it is called logic. You might want to attempt it once in a while 😂
I’ll stick with my 13 year old Ranger 6x6 the build quality on that CanAm looks like it’s already falling apart especially that dash. Plus 19k no thank you
Yeah CanAm is almost at the bottom of quality, no one should buy that mess.
We had a 04 ranger 6x6 that was junk. Front axel broke so we took it to the dealer and there were $4k in repairs. We decided to only fix the axel and about 20 hours later it stopped running. This at around 700 hours of light work. We just picked up a can am and it is so much nicer to even ride in
Your buddy Steven drove this 6x6 when it came out in a Texas ranch.
Nice job Can-Am! You made a Polaris Ranger!
Cam Am ought to have made a street legal version and suddenly would have the most off-road worthy p/u on the market.
You need to get the gator in to compare. Gator will not be as fast, or maybe have as much capacity, however in 10 years, only the gator will still be running.
Hopefully you have better luck with this Defender...
They will
I get it ( before I get pounced upon), but this sticks with me. The fact that the Can-Am can (is rated to...), carry 300lbs more than my F150 makes no sense (I know it’s not towing at x speed up a grade in y degrees when the moon is in z etc), but the other day watching another video from the Uk where the new HiLux is rated to carry 1200kg and the Ranger is rated for 1280kg! What is up with capacity ratings in the US? If @ford just rated their Ranger over here to match the European rating (rest of World rating), they’d win hands down with buyers wanting to carry a load?
Can you guys do a video which explains all this please and makes some sense of these figures for us layman.
Keep up the great work. Happy Christmas to all
If you want more articulation in the back, remove the rear sway bar
If you have grass/turf you like don’t make any turns. Buy a Japanese mini truck for less money and get HVAC as well.
Unfortunately, it’s street legal in South Dakota........
Same in Arizona
Makes sense to me
Disappointed in my defender, with less than 50 miles front end grinds when turning. Couldn’t get the dealer to resolve the problem while under warranty. From the can am forms it’s a common problem.
Paul D........ My 2017 Model is just fine, and runs AWESOME!
Am I the only one who thinks the pro is the better work horse? The 6x6 seems more like a toy. The pro has the same large bed and extra storage as its built on the 6 seater frame but with no rear seat
Small correction, PRO is built on the Defender MAX frame. (The space for the under-bed storage comes from where the rear passenger footwell would have been.) Both "toys" will carry a payload of 1,700 lbs but the 6x6 will tow 500 lbs more - 3,000 lbs. vs 2,500 on the PRO.
@@CANAMOFFROAD I forgot the name of the 6 seater but I did call it a 6 seater. When it comes to towing realistically who would tow more than 2k with these either way?
@@james2042 When you look at everyday loads for the type of use the Defender is designed for off-road, typically you're right--not many are hauling 2,000-lb loads daily. It's the maybe more frequent 400-1,000-lb loads over challenging terrain or through greasy / muddy conditions where that extra capability really helps to get the job done & feel confident doing it.
Go over a ditch?... not a tracked vehicle and rear wheels will not keep the front from dropping if unsupported.
That defender has a higher payload than the Power Wagon. Where’s Nathan at.
Great side by side but at that price you could find a small used beater 4×4 a lot cheaper and possibly save you marriage if your wife found out how much you paid.
I'd love to get a hold of a surplus military HD Gator. 6x4, 3cyl diesel, dump bed.
6x6 or FOOH
Power steering?
Can am
As the Zombie19 pandemic escalates, these will become soccer-mom-mobiles.
The heck no led lights !!!! It's 2021 !!!!! Also belt driven blah!!!!!! For pulling it better be geared like honda pioneer makes !!!
Andrey you sound norvious , like it's ur first time on the camera hahahaha
You guys need a bigger garage!
I want to this thing span a ditch.🙄
I will never understand why ATVs and UTVs are street legal... they are much safer than 2 wheel vehicles and I see now great difference between these and those stupid looking 3 wheel things... which are street legal...
I hear that! A motorcycle with no windshield, seat belts or roll cage is legal, but UTVs are not in most states. We can tag them for secondary roads here in TN, but in most states you cannot take them on the street at all.
Gosh and gee willakers , ok now what ????
quit calling them mini trucks. they are not mini trucks. if you want to review mini trucks, get mini trucks!!
These different channels are so unnecessary
Whoever rates these things for payload definitely does not rate 1/2 ton trucks. Look at that one little strut.
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