Revamping my Celestial and trying your Pure Heal Loadout. 👍 Thank you for all your tips and advice. We appreciate all the hard work you do and share! ✨️
10:08 only mentioned the plus side of Dark Bargain ... didn't talk about a whopping 15% reduction in overall healing. It begs for more detail as to when that tipping point between crits is greater than 15% of base.
Thanks I’ve always been interested in beating a healer and I made a celestial healer I’m CR 301 rn and this video helped me out a lot I have some things to grind but at least I know what direction to go in so thanks. Do you have any tips on what tank build I should make? I want to make a healer and a tank
Also there’s the other loadout where you can replace the group heal for consume soul. But you can’t do the admonish combo into consume soul anymore the healing is not fast enough to warrant for it. In my opinion it’s stronger but you aren’t able to get any page of destiny stacks with it.
My Playstyle is something I like to call a shield healer. It's a healer that can heal others but focuses a lot on moves that mitigate/absorbe damage for their allies and themselves more so than just pure healing so their healing output is lower than other healers because they have more defensive options like shields and bubbles/barriers and stuff that mitigate/absorb damage for your allies. Like Scholar from FFXIV or Discipline Priest from WoW so what power would be good or close to that?
I just came back after years being off and im running same exact spells for the same reasons i also run the slip stream suit because the healer trinket gives you a shield to the group its pretty awesome fast cooldown have. Ill have to try out this artifacts you are running too i use page, fang ,orb of arion turn the priority heal into a massive priority heal and healing over time
Tbh the weak healing actually is coming from the admonish combo. That’s truly a weak heal. Ya it’s okay to use when pre-casting but not during the team dropping high amounts of health. You’ll need to clip 3 abilities so either consume soul, renew, virtuous light or admonish, renew, virtuous light.
The new eog spam healer requires sacrifice since it’s the shortest and the same cooldown as group transducer for electricity of their eog spam loadout. I’ve found celestial has the better sc generation. The new loadout is Admonish, Renew, Virtuous Light, Sacred Light (sc generator), Benediction (passive regen ability heals 525 supercharge when fully combo with soul cloak equipped), sacrifice.
correct yea these healer guides don't have the new EOG changes. Also running black adam ally as well. I have also seen some healers run quislet if its not endgame level content for more SC too
hey Obsidian! I've been torn between water and celestial. Would you care to make a brief explanation on where they stand in terms of playstyle, performance, strengths and weaknessess?
Celestial focuses on a mix of burst heals and heal over times where water really doesn’t have any heal over time just the pools which you can’t always use. Water focus more on shielding then healing. Celestial also offers max range heals. Water relies more on flood of power supercharge so you need your supercharge always high, celestial doesn’t require a supercharge to heal etc
I am not 30 yet but I am trying to learn my new class before I get there. Does weapon matter at all because I like using staff but I can change weapons if needed
Hey obsidian with Celestial malediction and benediction do you have to use your weapon or powers for the more healing or anything i use them and see the healing but I get confused on if it’s coming from my weapon or my powers???
The only problem I have with this healer build is consume soul is overrated and not power conservative, consistent, or strong enough. Yes, it looks appealing to have a 1.5 sec cooldown heal but the heal is very weak as well and high power cost and the overtime portion of it is not worth. Your bread and butter is admonish overtime heal by combo. Everything else should be pure burst heal. Admonish, Renew, Virtuous Light, Blessing, Guardian Light is really strong on celestial and can make celestial seem overpowered and more power conservative than electricity. Last slot should be a supercharge whether it's sacrifice or consecrated ground. Consecrated Ground is still pretty strong just doesn't negate 1 shots completely but it strong and it doesn't break. Considered using Consecrated on a normal heal build and Sacrifice on a supercharge spam build.
What is the mechanic for the "Blight" ability, or others like it? The initial description says erupt a dark energy at your feet and the celestial combo. But further down, it says [Cleansed] which says relatively the same just with divine energy. But in Healer role it heals you and up to 7 group members over time. My initial question is, is there something you're supposed to do to trigger the [Cleansed] version of that ability?
to trigger "blight Cleansed" perform the combo on "admonish", being in healer role is just an added effect of the ability. ignore the "while in healer role" if your not in the healer role
I’m sorcery healer cr 344 and I have purp healing ray at 120, scarp almost at 140 and eog almost at 140. I run arberter spam load out and recently found out about this double 2500 eog spam stuff. Does it work the same with sorcery or you think celestial would be a better fit ? How is the dps
Gem spam healing can be done with any healing power because it’s all iconic or movement superchargers. And for the dps side, celestial has great single target dps and aoe is pretty mediocre. But sorcery has great single target and aoe. My first choice would be celestial but sorcery is great too.
It works with any power but actually sorcery is even better than all because u can spam sc in arbit itself, so u can use the human form as a normal heal and arbit for spamming heals. Because ppl rn spam 3 sc and that limit thier L/O
@@ObsidianChill Thank you for your reply. For the generator mods, where do I go to get the most newest generator mods? I it still the Flashpoint or some later or somewhere else. And how does the gear mods work? For example, when I place them into the gear in use, but, I upgrade the gears do I remove the gears mods or replace them all? Thank you again your time and help.
its just for a bit of weapon dmg or if you are bored between heals. If you are taking the hybrid setup for the extra stats you'll need weapon attacks to assist with power regen as well. Don't look at it as a necessity, its more just an option available to you
Unfortunately, since consume soul is a niche heal and doesn’t fit well just combo admonish into consume soul and doesn’t clip at all with the group heal it’s better to drop it and just keep admonish, renew, virtuous light, guardian light, blessing, cursed idol for full healing. That way celestial easily strong burst healing. Consume soul is very weak in healing and not enough high burst numbers and it really is the reason why most celestial healers aren’t able to heal. You can easily get purple healing procs by healing teammates no need to heal npcs and pets. You can replace consume soul with admonish and it’s still viable just can’t get any page of destiny procs.
So I'm new at the game, why don't you use a skill point for hybrid instead of super-powered when hybrid says it is for healers and have 5 percent restoration and vitalization
celestial combos are a bit on the power heavy side, and because they are combos you aren't using your weapons at all which decreases your power regeneration. Hybrid you have to use weapons and powers to regen power properly, so for celestials case its more important (unless you have a really good controller but that is hard to gauge in content and you are solo alot like duos or alerts etc) to spec superpowered
How realistic is this for normal players? Because from what I have been seeing (and am grateful for you in the community) you have so much money to blow on this game @Obsidian and have been playing for so long, so you have so many Skill points as well and the average player can’t get by with maybe 200 From what I’ve observed anyway
skill points really don't impact anything compared to artifacts and even then in the bigger picture stats won't drastically impact your healing. Like I said if you have 50sp 100sp 300sp 600sp you still spec the exact same and level the exact time artifacts
@@ObsidianChillthis is 🧢. If you have only 20 sp In might n power, you’re gonna have a ruff time with power even if you have 200 arts. 100 sp might power will give you 10% power which is all you need. Same goes with with resto. 10% makes a pretty noticeable difference.
@@AnubisA.A after the 1st nerf is when i think they stopped it from damage healing, all i know is that shit don't work like that, maybe for low content it might but for current shit especially elite stuff you dead meat if you try battle healing and its sad cause celestial is tailored for battle healing
they are but with EoG after 6 seconds the healing done will be burst out to the group. So you do technically get a heal out of it and gem spam for the group
@@spade7195 just the basic ones, scrap or EoG before supers, stone for supplies. There aren’t too many healer arts to pull from. Starheart would be a tiny health buff which wouldn’t be worth it
0:00 Start
0:47 Skill Point Spec
6:35 Augments
7:42 Artifacts
12:39 Gear Mods
14:45 Consumable
15:18 Affinity Mods
17:00 Generator Mods
18:42 Pure Heal Loadout
23:47 Gem Spam Loadout
26:29 Heal Rotation
Revamping my Celestial and trying your Pure Heal Loadout. 👍 Thank you for all your tips and advice. We appreciate all the hard work you do and share! ✨️
glad I could help out
I’ve been water healing but celestial looks way more fun and engaging
If using Guardian's light empowered channeling really helps with it, don't get pulled in or stunned depending on the mechanics
definitely, been so used to using solar amplifier which has the mod built in, didn't think to mention it :)
20:12 Virtuous Light another good example is when Zeus does the lightning during lunge phase in FGSe last boss.
I don't even have a healer but imma still watch these videos
Love how he always gets done to the point 💯💯
10:08 only mentioned the plus side of Dark Bargain ... didn't talk about a whopping 15% reduction in overall healing. It begs for more detail as to when that tipping point between crits is greater than 15% of base.
I'm so excited to start this build!
Thanks I’ve always been interested in beating a healer and I made a celestial healer I’m CR 301 rn and this video helped me out a lot I have some things to grind but at least I know what direction to go in so thanks. Do you have any tips on what tank build I should make? I want to make a healer and a tank
I was thinking an earth tank but idk
Also there’s the other loadout where you can replace the group heal for consume soul. But you can’t do the admonish combo into consume soul anymore the healing is not fast enough to warrant for it. In my opinion it’s stronger but you aren’t able to get any page of destiny stacks with it.
My Playstyle is something I like to call a shield healer. It's a healer that can heal others but focuses a lot on moves that mitigate/absorbe damage for their allies and themselves more so than just pure healing so their healing output is lower than other healers because they have more defensive options like shields and bubbles/barriers and stuff that mitigate/absorb damage for your allies. Like Scholar from FFXIV or Discipline Priest from WoW so what power would be good or close to that?
“Shield healer” you sound stupid n corny af bro go get sun pussy
@@swagbutouchiha855 why😂😂
Maybe water healing
I just came back after years being off and im running same exact spells for the same reasons i also run the slip stream suit because the healer trinket gives you a shield to the group its pretty awesome fast cooldown have. Ill have to try out this artifacts you are running too
i use page, fang ,orb of arion turn the priority heal into a massive priority heal and healing over time
Tbh the weak healing actually is coming from the admonish combo. That’s truly a weak heal. Ya it’s okay to use when pre-casting but not during the team dropping high amounts of health. You’ll need to clip 3 abilities so either consume soul, renew, virtuous light or admonish, renew, virtuous light.
The new eog spam healer requires sacrifice since it’s the shortest and the same cooldown as group transducer for electricity of their eog spam loadout. I’ve found celestial has the better sc generation. The new loadout is Admonish, Renew, Virtuous Light, Sacred Light (sc generator), Benediction (passive regen ability heals 525 supercharge when fully combo with soul cloak equipped), sacrifice.
correct yea these healer guides don't have the new EOG changes. Also running black adam ally as well. I have also seen some healers run quislet if its not endgame level content for more SC too
hey Obsidian! I've been torn between water and celestial. Would you care to make a brief explanation on where they stand in terms of playstyle, performance, strengths and weaknessess?
Celestial focuses on a mix of burst heals and heal over times where water really doesn’t have any heal over time just the pools which you can’t always use. Water focus more on shielding then healing. Celestial also offers max range heals. Water relies more on flood of power supercharge so you need your supercharge always high, celestial doesn’t require a supercharge to heal etc
was wondering this same things, thank you for the great info Obsidian!
@ObsidianChillDCUO Having both Water and Celestial characters, I can validate this statement. Still not sure which I prefer thoough! 🤣
For your greens loadout I would keep group heal with Page
Can you please let me know where you are getting these mods? I have things in my generator
Plan on making a celestial build soon😈
I am not 30 yet but I am trying to learn my new class before I get there. Does weapon matter at all because I like using staff but I can change weapons if needed
Hey bro I hope it’s not to late but you think you can do an OP celestial L/O? (Updated)
Can't execute combos (I am on PC), some times my character trigger another skill when try to use a combo. Light and water works fine
Hey obsidian with Celestial malediction and benediction do you have to use your weapon or powers for the more healing or anything i use them and see the healing but I get confused on if it’s coming from my weapon or my powers???
The only problem I have with this healer build is consume soul is overrated and not power conservative, consistent, or strong enough. Yes, it looks appealing to have a 1.5 sec cooldown heal but the heal is very weak as well and high power cost and the overtime portion of it is not worth. Your bread and butter is admonish overtime heal by combo. Everything else should be pure burst heal. Admonish, Renew, Virtuous Light, Blessing, Guardian Light is really strong on celestial and can make celestial seem overpowered and more power conservative than electricity. Last slot should be a supercharge whether it's sacrifice or consecrated ground. Consecrated Ground is still pretty strong just doesn't negate 1 shots completely but it strong and it doesn't break. Considered using Consecrated on a normal heal build and Sacrifice on a supercharge spam build.
What is the mechanic for the "Blight" ability, or others like it? The initial description says erupt a dark energy at your feet and the celestial combo.
But further down, it says [Cleansed] which says relatively the same just with divine energy. But in Healer role it heals you and up to 7 group members over time.
My initial question is, is there something you're supposed to do to trigger the [Cleansed] version of that ability?
to trigger "blight Cleansed" perform the combo on "admonish", being in healer role is just an added effect of the ability. ignore the "while in healer role" if your not in the healer role
Yo obsidian u thinh its possible we get a arts week this week?
So im wondering, could celestial make good use of trans/strat combo like nature can?
Nope, even in nature that's not a good combo now
What you think if i use eog, sc and phr?
I’m sorcery healer cr 344 and I have purp healing ray at 120, scarp almost at 140 and eog almost at 140. I run arberter spam load out and recently found out about this double 2500 eog spam stuff. Does it work the same with sorcery or you think celestial would be a better fit ? How is the dps
Gem spam healing can be done with any healing power because it’s all iconic or movement superchargers. And for the dps side, celestial has great single target dps and aoe is pretty mediocre. But sorcery has great single target and aoe. My first choice would be celestial but sorcery is great too.
It works with any power but actually sorcery is even better than all because u can spam sc in arbit itself, so u can use the human form as a normal heal and arbit for spamming heals. Because ppl rn spam 3 sc and that limit thier L/O
What currency do I use in the world of Flashpoint for the generator mods and others as well?
now because that episode is clamped it is source marks
@@ObsidianChill Thank you for your reply. For the generator mods, where do I go to get the most newest generator mods? I it still the Flashpoint or some later or somewhere else. And how does the gear mods work? For example, when I place them into the gear in use, but, I upgrade the gears do I remove the gears mods or replace them all? Thank you again your time and help.
Hey chill, I don't have pod/phr leveled yet nor the xp to make them 160+. Can they still be viable rank 120?
PHR can work at 120, ideally page you would want higher. It just wont have the same effect but still usable. But level page first
Brand new to healing..question why do we need flurry shot explosive l..if we're only doing the admonish combo
its just for a bit of weapon dmg or if you are bored between heals. If you are taking the hybrid setup for the extra stats you'll need weapon attacks to assist with power regen as well. Don't look at it as a necessity, its more just an option available to you
@@ObsidianChill awesome thanks
Unfortunately, since consume soul is a niche heal and doesn’t fit well just combo admonish into consume soul and doesn’t clip at all with the group heal it’s better to drop it and just keep admonish, renew, virtuous light, guardian light, blessing, cursed idol for full healing. That way celestial easily strong burst healing. Consume soul is very weak in healing and not enough high burst numbers and it really is the reason why most celestial healers aren’t able to heal. You can easily get purple healing procs by healing teammates no need to heal npcs and pets. You can replace consume soul with admonish and it’s still viable just can’t get any page of destiny procs.
wtf
So I'm new at the game, why don't you use a skill point for hybrid instead of super-powered when hybrid says it is for healers and have 5 percent restoration and vitalization
celestial combos are a bit on the power heavy side, and because they are combos you aren't using your weapons at all which decreases your power regeneration. Hybrid you have to use weapons and powers to regen power properly, so for celestials case its more important (unless you have a really good controller but that is hard to gauge in content and you are solo alot like duos or alerts etc) to spec superpowered
Are you doing the whole combo for consume soul or no
no, just the initial power, no need to do Corrupted Wrath of the Presence
so is the orb no longer needed!!!??
It is not with transformation card, which achieves a similar effect
How realistic is this for normal players? Because from what I have been seeing (and am grateful for you in the community) you have so much money to blow on this game @Obsidian and have been playing for so long, so you have so many Skill points as well and the average player can’t get by with maybe 200 From what I’ve observed anyway
skill points really don't impact anything compared to artifacts and even then in the bigger picture stats won't drastically impact your healing. Like I said if you have 50sp 100sp 300sp 600sp you still spec the exact same and level the exact time artifacts
@@ObsidianChillthis is 🧢. If you have only 20 sp In might n power, you’re gonna have a ruff time with power even if you have 200 arts. 100 sp might power will give you 10% power which is all you need. Same goes with with resto. 10% makes a pretty noticeable difference.
If I want to create a damage / Healer Celestial build what points should I set?
Battle healing is no longer good with celestial anymore they Nerfed it pretty bad years ago
@@nicksandz3209 They nerfed it again? Last time was since pvp one right?
@@AnubisA.A been nerfed lol
@@nicksandz3209 oh lord, Haven't heard of it 🤦🏽♂️, It was already bad after the first nerf
@@AnubisA.A after the 1st nerf is when i think they stopped it from damage healing, all i know is that shit don't work like that, maybe for low content it might but for current shit especially elite stuff you dead meat if you try battle healing and its sad cause celestial is tailored for battle healing
I'm using flight ?
Which artifact should I lvl first For pure heal?
purple healing ray to 160-200
@@ObsidianChill tnx
Les goooo
But aren't Pheromone Bloom and Met Boost both self heals?
they are but with EoG after 6 seconds the healing done will be burst out to the group. So you do technically get a heal out of it and gem spam for the group
Water is good and all but I have more fun healing and dpsing with this power
Ikr. Celestial is so fun
💯 True, water is brain dead to me ngl
Would a staff work for melee?
It can, it's combos are slower and longer so you won't be able to use much of them between heals
@@ObsidianChill Cool, how bout bow? Like a bow healer?
@@akarisaberwolf8762 bow works perfectly fine, flurry shot is great
@@ObsidianChill Ok cool. I love both the staff and bow. Lol
Which movement would be best for a celestial healer?
Electric vs celestial ?
Depends what you like, elec is all burst so you always have to actively heal, celes is a mix of good burst and heal over times
I artifacts swap betwewn orb trans and strat
Yup all perfectly viable to art swap as a healer
@@ObsidianChill is there anything else u can art swap with healers?
@@spade7195 just the basic ones, scrap or EoG before supers, stone for supplies. There aren’t too many healer arts to pull from. Starheart would be a tiny health buff which wouldn’t be worth it
The abilities has changed since this video :( now idk what to do omg
what abilities have changed? there have been no adjustments to Celestial in the past few months
Celestial hasn't changed since the last revamp bro, what are u on about?
Is battle healing no longer viable?
Not necessarily but celestial is wayyyy to slow to battle heal in my opinion
Anything is viable if u want it to be 👌🏼👍🏼💯
Electric better dont @ me
@ lol
I just know this was made because i went celestial, let us not kid ourselves.
or you know, can just ask me
Hmm
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