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- Covering which class and neutral trinket at the best for each hero in order to showcase what people should be looking for to make most common builds good.
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0:00 Intro
3:22 Abomination
4:13 Antiquarian
5:45 Arbalest
7:45 Bounty Hunter
9:28 Crusader
10:56 Flagellant
13:25 Grave Robber
16:03 Hellion
17:20 Highwayman
19:08 Houndmaster
19:57 Jester
21:44 Leper
23:33 Man-at-Arms
24:55 Occultist
26:58 Plague Doctor
28:24 Shieldbreaker
29:32 Vestal - เกม
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The two best trinkets for me are Tissues for maintaining ACC when I cry playing this game and Water Bottle to regain HP (hydration points)
I usually run stress controller to mitigate stress damage and deny self damage from masochist and tea or coffee for hydration heal or speed if I need it
Running the controller warranty trinket for when you get crit 3 times in a row is also good
*puts bleed amulet on occultist while in a team with leper*
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Abomination: Broken key; stun amulet because stuns are great, stun resist is good on a front liner, and -dodge is okay on someone with sustain
Antiquarian: Master's essence by a lot (fleet florin is good too); feather crystal because speed is great for setup
Arbalest: Medic's greaves (childhood treasure is better but rarer); Dismas's head since damage is great and -hp is fine on her
Bounty hunter: Hunter's talon, -8 dodge from focus ring is bad and the food consumed is only during camping and can be trinket-swapped; dazzling charm
Crusader: paralyzer's crest; ancestor's scroll (can be passed around during camp, unlike signed conscription)
Flagellant: heartburst hood; martyr's seal (flesh's heart and bleed amulet honorable mention), +hp and +speed when low make it easier to play around his gimmick
Grave robber: raider's talisman (letter opener honorable mention); Dismas's head (sun ring/surgical gloves honorable mention)
Hellion: heaven's hairpin; surgical gloves (she can hit the backline so extra accuracy is very important)
Highwayman: shameful locket; ancestor's signet ring, we really want defenses while riposting, +stress is okay because we don't take stress when we kill a stress caster with riposte
Houndmaster: evidence of corruption; ancestor's pistol
Jester: critical dice (dirge of the devoured honorable mention), not bright tambourine; Barristan's head because having a backup for dodge failing is good
Leper: fortunate armlet (berserk mask honorable mention); focus ring, accuracy and crit are great on him
Man-at-arms: tough choice here, but old unit standard (covers a lot of options); fortifying garlic
Occultist: vial of sand (demon's cauldron honorable mention); feather crystal (ancestor's ring honorable mention)
Plague doctor: blasphemous vial; feather crystal
Shieldbreaker: spectral speartip; ancestor's signet ring
Vestal: salacious diary; ancestor's map
Thanks! ^_^ I’ll need this
Hell's Hairpin tho
I don’t quite understand how a focus ring which you can easily get from apprentice bosses more or less guaranteed can be considered a late game item. For YT purposes he’s also mentioning a variety of different trinkets as showing Surgical gloves on every melee dps and Focus Ring on every DPS/stunner is not very entertaining. However, these two items are just amazing.
In before, apologies for the wall of text but I wanted to mention the reasoning behind some of the arguments so newer players reading this understand why some of the mentioned combinations in this video are subpar instead of me just saying - bad choice.
Abomination
If you have Broken Key you have everything covered the stun abom would ever need and stun amulet is just not as valuable at that point as bringing more speed, defense or utility like scouting. Padlock of Transference is amazing on him as well.
Antiquarian
One of the most versatile heros when it comes to trinkets and depends on what her role is for your group. Position 3/4 the extra healing is great. For a guard setup any extra speed is nice like mentioned. She’s a very good candidate for scouting trinkets as well. Carapace Idol is amazing in any area where you don’t necessarily want to use her Guard (Weald, Warrens) due to enemies Mark synergy.
Arbalest
Medic's Greaves are amazing and always worth bringing when she’s support/dps. Dismas's head on the other hand is a big no-no. Her dodge is so low that she’s very likely to get hit by stress attacks and having +20% extra stress for neglectable +dmg when you will spend a decent amount of actions on healing is just a bad tradeoff. Anything with accuracy to guarantee the opener to land, speed, -% stress - Prophet’s eye is perfect here or a steady bracer in early game. Can also carry a support/scouting trinket.
Bounty Hunter
Hunter's Talon is great. Dazzling charm is overkill as Flashbang already has 100% stun on the backline stress dealers. Feather Crystal is amazing on BH to give that bit of extra needed speed to hopefully go before the fast enemies.
Crusader
Both mentioned items are great by themselves but the combination is lacking accuracy. If you miss, you might as well have 0% chance to stun and on veteran and champion enemies have a decent amount of dodge. Without any group accuracy buffer you need accuracy on trinkets if you want your crusader to land his skills consistently. Focus ring is very very good on him.
Flagellant
I know he wanted to mention class trinkets but Flagellant’s class trinkets are just so so bad. You could say Bleed Amulet is like the class trinket he never had and it fits his kit very nicely. That aside, like with any dps, you want accuracy, optionally some crit and something for defense as he’s really not that tanky. Surgical gloves, Focus Ring, Ancestor’s Signet Ring. Combine with Feather Crystal, the mentioned Martyr’s Seal, Flesh’s Heart, Willbur’s Flag, Fortifying garlic or just a Bleed Charm. Book of Relaxation is an honorable mention as the -10% stress is great for Endure and you get some accuracy with it.
Grave robber
Raider's talisman and letter opener (if you are lucky to get it during the normal playthrough) are great. But if you combine the Talisman with Dismas Head you’re literally begging RNGesus to get her killed. Better get Surgical Gloves, Ancestor's Candle/Pen/Signet Ring or a Legendary Bracer (usually meh but GR is so fast the -speed isn’t as impactful) or just a defensive trinket as she’s super squishy.
Hellion
Great combination
Highwayman
Ancestor’s Signet Ring is amazing on HWM. Shameful Locket, on the other hand, is just as it’s name suggests a disgrace and is just a worse version of Focus Ring/Surgical Gloves. If you go with the mentioned items, you will walk around with +25% extra stress and literally screaming for an affliction. You can complete the CC set for the virtue chance otherwise it’s never worth using the Shameful Locket.
Houndmaster
Evidence of Corruption is the best class trinket the HM has. If you have it, you can always equip it for normal dungeon runs without hesitation. Ancestor’s Pistol is a good combination, the +20% stress are not as bad on HM as on other characters as he has high base dodge and can disarm traps to reduce the extra stress. If you are playing him in the backline might as well put him on 4 and give Prophet’s Eye instead as it’s a better version of the Pistol.
Jester:
Protection is indeed a very good stat on low hp heroes like Jester, Antiquarian, Occultist, GR and SB. The way the DD formulas work with rounding, a bit of protection is already amazing. Tough Ring is arguably a better defensive trinket than Barristan’s Head. Not only is it half the stress, but it’s also more survivability. On max level you’re getting +6 extra health on Jester on top of the 10% prot. You would need to get hit for more than 40 dmg at once to make the Head a better defensive trinket than the Tough Ring. If you have the Jester building, Heavy boots become also a better choice than Barristan’s Head. Critical Dice isn’t really a good choice as most of his turns are spend on buffing or stress healing. The best class trinket pairing for the Head would be the Bright/Dark Tambourine to counteract the extra stress.
Leper
Good choices here
Man-at-arms
Really depends on what your MAA is supposed to do. If he’s on guard duty for certain encounters like Swine Prince or Prophet, go Heavy Boots/Tough Ring + hp or dodge. Otherwise he really needs accuracy so Focus Ring is amazing and a better combination with the Old Unit Standard. Feather Crystal also great on him.
Occultist
The hardest part about Occultist is choosing the right combination of trinkets out of a pool of amazing choices. He’s also a very squishy character so when put him in pos 2, you’d ideally want some defensive item on him and some accuracy to reliably land the stuns on high dodge pos 3 targets. Ancestor’s Signet Ring is perfect for him as it helps with both areas. Ancestor's Pistol is also a great choice.
Plague doctor
Good combination
. The 25% extra stress are immense but hopefully going before the enemies with the Feather Crystal and stun BOTH backline enemies is a great tradeoff.
Shieldbreaker
A very lategame setup, but also very strong
Vestal
I’ve seen him bash Sacred Scroll in multiple videos and I don’t agree with him. In a playthrough on Bloodmoon and/or torchless this item is literally the best thing you can get from your early bosses. With double heal trinkets you will have barely enough single target heal to recover from non-crit dpser hits. The downside of -10% stun is manageable, the -33% dmg is whatever as the only situation where you want that dmg over stun is when you need to finish off a position 4 enemy with your Vestal going last in a round - and even with the -33% it’s usually still enough if she hits. There’s a reason this trinket was used in EVERY encounter a Vestal was brought during the world first deathless Bloodmoon torchless run by Adam Vs Everything.
Obviously, when you're doing less difficult content or a lower difficulty setting you can bring one healing trinket + utility but Sacred Scroll is still a safe choice.
The prophets eye is really good with blasphemous vial too. It gives minus stress, speed and even more accuratecy so she will litterally never miss. I guess +8 dodge could be good for survivability but it's not that significant
Thanks for noting down all of them. I was making a note too, but now I save time doing that.
Jack Sparrow: Jar of dirt
Occultist: Vial of sand
Darkest dungeologist
The best trinket for all heroes?
Human dmg ring😤😤😤
Everybody gangsta till MaA whips out blue mirror
"She doesn't usually get targeted in the back" meanwhile there's me where all enemies ignore the front and try to atack the back
Skull toss....
I actually love the speed stone even on high levels (if you don't have feather crystal), even though it's a common relic. 1 SPD with no downsides is just so so nice for characters like a plague doc, being able to go before the stress cultists
I love Feather Crystal. Can never get enough of them.
@@GeraltofRivia22 I'm pretty new at this game but I'm loving feather crystal more and more. Read up a lot on people saying feather crystal and focus ring which is definitely good but I just use feather crystal for everything.
Is that a trinket in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?
"Oh, I didn't think you'd notice."
While I do appreciate survival guide on Vestal, I slightly prefer Ancestors Pistol so that she'll reliably get her stun off before the enemies get their turn, and it helps prevent the feels bad that is missing a tempo zap.
I run her with Sacred Scroll and Junia's Head. The scroll negates the extra stress from the head, the dmg trade-off is pretty bad, but it doesn't matter if you switch Judgement for Illumination (especially at high level), and I can live with -10% stun chance.
Her single-target heal becomes as big as Occultist and her AoE heal becomes as big as her single-target heal. At this point enemy damage becomes irrelevant because I can outheal everything :D
@@t3chn0dr0n3 I also run that lmao
@@t3chn0dr0n3 That was my default setup for two-thirds of my initial playthrough (though I generally kept Judgement on).
New to the game. Good to know that my decision of spending basically all my gold on feather crystal from wagon on week 5 was a good thing. It just seemed powerful and I guess I was right.
When I first played this game, my priority was always managing stress like I won't bring trinkets that give extra stress if I can't offset it with a minus stress. I managed to get over it but it still stings to see that highwayman best trinkets both give +stress. That's just me
Actually the Bounty Hunter's Talon trinket does consume more than 4 food during hallway checks IF you only have 4 food left in your inventory. But if you take it off it allows you to consume your last bit of food.
I was genuinely surprised with your hellion trinkets as I use the exact same trinkets for my hellion. Great video! It's nice to get another perspective on stuff like this even though this video is directed toward the more newer players.
It's actually very interesting that a lot of the higher level trinkets have +stress as a drawback.
It kinda implies that at that level, you should have learnt how to manage stress effectively. If you don't take care of stress casters properly, the drawback can be really detrimental, but if you prevent stress damage consistently, it's basically a non-existent drawback for 90% of the time
Speaking of Baristan's Head: I've gotten Hard Skinned on Vestal and Occultist before. Throwing Baristan's Head on them made them damn near unassailable to anything short of a DPS crit or Treebranch. Worked better on the THICCultist IMO because I tend to keep him in rank 2 on a backline DPS or mark focused comps with Vial of Sand. Recommend giving it a shot if RNGesus gives him that quirk.
Def should make a basic zone guide: ie like stuff to look out for(courtyard=bleeds)(warrens=beasts) (cove=eldritch). Common comps for the zone in general. What kind of loot is common. Benefit of questing there. You’re videos have been super helpful and insightful. Great content bro
I was actually talking to my thumbnail artist a couple days ago about this, so they're in the works :)
Dude i use focus rings so often...like i mix them with damage trinkets and it does the job every time.
3 focus rings + damage trinks on everyone and double heal trinks on the vestal :D that's how I roll
I did it, I finally found my favorite team composition. From left to right, Jester, Vestal, Highwayman, Hellian.
It's a named team as well. Vox Voyagers, I think. Anyway, with jester just as a buff monkey and stress healer, Vestal as the healer/stunner/ant-stealth, and the HWM and Hellian as Dps, they just crit for days. I took them through endless, and got like 198 kills, to wave 7 or 8. I finally stopped when they got too stressed out(due to bad luck, sadness). It was easily the best run of my life. So many crits. So much damage. What a team.
Well done :)
@@ShuffleFM thank you ^_^
@@BotSupportIronValiant again, sorry to necro, but placing the jester 4th instead of 3rd is objectively worse. You can use his buffs and pick off low hp enemies when needed if you play him 3rd, allowing for the heavy hitters to focus on impending threats. Only time this matters is if you get shuffled, but even then jester movement allows for quick reposition :)
where's my plague doctor :(
@@TheSpiritedFendron dead, probably
"High torch is easy to manage unless your doing a challenge run"
HELL NAH M8 IM ROCKIN OUT TO THE 0 TORCH COVE MUSIC
For Flagellant, I argue Acidic Husk Ichor is his best class-specific item. It's not terribly hard to get, nor a full end-game item and it gives respectable stats at the cost of a bit of max HP.
Plus he heals more below 20%. :D
Regarding the Bounty Hunter's trinket Hunter's Talons, there's *one* situation where the +50% food consumed comes up outside of camping, I only found out very recently since it's a rare situation, as a result it barely changes the trinket's viability, but figured I'd mention it. When you get a hunger check and you have exactly the same amount of food as the check asks you, you won't be able to click the eat option without unequipping the trinket first, at least with a party of 4. Which means you might have to throw something away to make room to unequip it. Apparently the food required to click the option rounds up while the food that is actually consumed rounds down which causes this.
I find the most important thing is to actually adjust trinkets to the focus of each hero, adjust trinkets to the mission, and sell off the useless/duplicate trinkets for gold is most important.
Trinkets are integral to success, and sleeping on them WILL make you suffer.
As someone who doesn't have any of the DLC's I wish this could have focused on the regular trinkets, however this video is really helpful to me as it shows me different ways to view the negatives that many trinkets have. For example, I am loathe to use trinkets that add stress. Listening to this has shown me that I might be thinking to narrowly when viewing their use.
I have watched this 7-10 times and I have not been able to play for 2yrs now. So thanks.
I like to give abomination recovery charm (the one with 40% heal received). In my opinion it is an OP trinket that must be brought to almost every mission and passed around among heroes because it boosts heals from food and camp skills, etc. Abomination is the best choice to carry it because it makes his on-transform heal so huge.
Hey Shuffle, great video. Glad to see you keep making videos for DD1 even after all this time.
Even though the Crusader rarely shines as a stunner because of his low speed, he can shine brightly against the Thing from the Stars. Did you know that the Thing from the Stars cannot automatically use Return from the Stars if it is stunned after performing its 2 actions already? Without Return from the Stars, bleeds and blights are not cured on the enemy, and you don't have to worry about hitting the Crystalline Aberration, which is great in terms of action economy.
Quick stunners have a high chance of going before either of the 2 actions from the Thing from the Stars. But the Crusader has a good chance of going last. So Paralyzer's Crest + Non-Euclidean Hilt is greatly helpful against his champion version but just the Paralyzer's Crest alone is good enough for his apprentice / veteran version.
Stunning TFTS so it can't cleanse itself is one of the best feelings in the game lol
for occultist i like running crit builds since crits boost chance to land stuns and debuffs and his crit self buff is bonus healing and all his moves have high crit chance so it lets him lean into his entire move kit
Video: best trinkets
Me: forgets to equip them everytime
Best trinket for Graverobber is that wedding ring I gave her homie!
great video! with blasphemous vial and other similar high reward but high stress I always want to offset with aria's box sanity book. but for example, extra speed can pretty much mitigate it and help the team more. Looking forward to more character guides as I overlook so many abilities, like using crusaders with more support skills instead of raw damage
Crusader will be a fun one to cover if we get there in time.
I remember getting dismas’ head on like the third week and I was genuinely stunned
TL;DW:
Abomination: Broken Key, Stun Amulet
Antiquarian: The Master's Essence, Feather Crystal
Arbalest: Medic's Greavess, Dismas' Head
Bounty Hunter: Hunter's Talons, Dazzling Charm
Crusader: Paralyzer's Crest, Ancestor's Scroll
Flagellant: Heartburst Hood, Martyr's Seal
Graverobber: Raider's Talisman, Dismas' Head
Hellion: Heaven's Hairpin, Surgical Gloves
Highwayman: Shameful Locket, Ancestor's Signet Ring
Houndmaster: Evidence of Corruption, Ancestor's Pistol
Jester: Critical Dice, Barristan's Head
Leper: Fortunate Armlet, Focus Ring
Man-at-Arms: Old Unit Standard, Fortifying Garlic
Occultist: Vial of Sand, Feather Crystal
Plague Doctor: Blasphemous Vial, Feather Crystal
Shieldbreaker: Spectral Speartip, Ancestor's Signet Ring
Vestal: Salacious Diary, Ancestor's Map
I learned late in Darkest Dungeon that accuracy is worth infinitely more than damage. Missing a stun or the last hit of an enemy can wipe groups. The most important stats are Speed, Accuracy, & Scouting. Damage is actually near the bottom when it comes to importance.
beat the croc the other day relatively easily I noticed flagellant and dimas were strong as previous run so decided to chance it. also now absolute crushed necro apprentice after went to secret room come out with like 20k
Every new game I’ve started I’m pretty sure I’ve eventually snagged focus ring, and this is me we’re talking about, I don’t pay attention to trinket gains when picking the next outing.
LOL i had no idea critical hits worked like that
To prove your point, I just got Blasphemous vial from necromancer at week 16. Came here to see what trinkets I should start looking for and picking up, was not disappointed ^_^
"don't worry about the rarity of the trinkets, they should all be accessible to you eventuality. Anyway, here's a bunch of trinkets only accessible with the DLC."
There were only 8 and 1 was for a dlc hero anyway. That's barely 1/4 dude. Calling that "a bunch" is a bit hyperbolic. The majority of trinkets were either low rarity or easy to find like the heads.
@@ShuffleFM Agree to disagree. 1/4 is a significant portion.
holy shit i think i suggested this a super long time ago and you said you might work on it. i took a bit of a break from the game so im a bit late to see this but tysm for following through
Ihad dismas head and fortune armlet on Leper today and absolutely crapped all over everything in sight. He became one of my top 3 favs. Mind you i only have the base game, the Flag looks awesome.
To be fair, he also had ruin tactician and it was in thr ruins.
Great guide Shuff, thanks.
I like getting the Flag to Death's Door, then guarding him, so that Martyr's Seal _really_ gets some play.
Funny how I can remember to re-guard Flag, but always forget about HM's dog biscuits... ;^)
cheers mate.
I agree with some. A lot of your choices have much much better options, also depending on some heroes if you are going melee or ranges also changes the options.
Thanks for the video dude
Nice review
this is my fourth time playing a new game on Darkest dungeon , and each time i try to do things differently , this time i went a very aggressive risky kind of play style, and surprisingly it's doing better than i thought , my main healing character is not a vestal it's a flagellant. and i only run him on the weald or the courtyard , but i don't care about the healing that much , i just focus on dealing damage as fast as possible , i run any trinkets with high acc and speed , i lock down traits that focus on those two as well , to the point i almost on end game now without having a vestal on my roaster , and i have only two champions who died , acc is very underrated if u don't miss ur attacks u have higher chances of surviving than having a healer that slows ur damage down and just gives the enemy another turn
Great videos mate I really appreciate it but would you say this guide is still viable after 2 years and balance changes here and there. I dont really know if there where any big ones but after watching your tier list you said something in the lines of Plague doctor is still a good pick after nerfs, do that nerfs change any dynamic between heroes and trinkets ? Thank you
Ik you dont like bright tambourine but what if u used bright tambourine with tempting goblet? The stress increase is negated and you get a sizable dodge and hp increase. Also the speed is good so you can buff before your other party members go
Anyone know of a non-DLC guide? This is great but I don't have either DLC so no access to most of these.
Thanks for the video Shuffle! Although i have a question about one of your picks, you mentioned for Jester that the 25% Stress healing buff from the bright tambourine is irrelevant for him because it's a really small 2-points boost, but you picked ancestors scroll for the Crusader, wouldn't the 25% boost also be irrelevant for him as the base value is lower than Jester or it's just a matter that Crusader needs it more or Jester needs a build focused on support (battle ballad carry) rather than pure stress healing?
The stress bonus is nice for crusader, sure, but the scroll is great for him specifically because of the hp healing boost as well. This gives inpsiring cry 2 bonuses and inspiring cry can also crit, which inspiring tune cannot. Then crusader's battle heal is boosted too, all for the cost of a negligible downside.
I have question about Crimson court can you activate the DLC with out ending infecting your game ?
so you could have accase to the trinkets but dont have to deal with the crap of crinsom court
Nah. You can only get the trinkets from inside the court.
Isn't Padlock of Transference better than Stun Amulet on Abomination?
I slept on this game hard when it first came out and was all over Twitch, now I can't stop. I really appreciate your channel cuz I had no idea how to effectively use flagellant and anti, and now they're a couple of my favourite classes!
But for some reason, MaA still evades me. The only team that makes good sense is using him with anti for riposte, but I'd rather use Dismas for that. It's not that MaA's moves feel bad, it's that they all feel somewhat equal at a 6/10. I watched your guide, but it felt a little all over the place because that's the same impression I get from MaA.
Is he better with a group that could use the buffs to really have them shine, or should he just go with an already stable team and make them a little more consistent?
the main appeal of man at arms is that guard is such a great contingency plan for shit going wrong that it's pretty hard to lose a hero with a maa on the team. Pair that with a very nice stun and a bunch of other skills with good uses and he's a really good class who fits in a lot of teams from ranks 1 to 3 and offering a lot of security. Bellow gives him a way to offer huge action denial potential on the next turn, and Crush is just average damage with high crit onto rank 3, which is always appreciated. As for his trinkets, he doesn't really need all too much apart from Speed imo, and you can pair that with stun/debuff chance or even Accuracy
About the Crusader, what about his sword from Color of Madness? I'm playing for the first time and I grinded for it, but people keeps saying it's underwhelming and not worth the time.
eternity collar + matyrs on flag still dosnt feel like enough deathblow resist in hardcore
I actually almost always give Antiquarian the Map and the Ancestor Lantern, so that everyone else can have 2 combat trinkets.
I’m surprised that you don’t mention ancestor’s jacket for highwayman. Seems like a perfect match to me
Can you disable Crimson Court after you activate it?
I'm not sure actually, I've never tried.
Do a video about backer heroes and backer trinkets!! (the best of/ for each class, etc...) few people even know they exist and even fewer actually use them, but it's still something that could help people struggling to get good comps early on.
I don't know anything about them either D:
isn't salacious diary trinket for vestal got -2 spd downside? the wiki doesn't mention this, but the game put has it. some of the trinkets description from wiki doesn't state all of the downside as far as i know.
salacious diary doesn't have any -spd attached, maybe you're thinking of sacred scroll (her very rare) which i believe used to have -spd but doesn't anymore
@@flagellantbestgirl it does, that's why i always considering to either use salacious diary or the shambler healing trinket one
Hey Shuffle, I just recently found your channel after getting the game a couple weeks ago from a Steam sale, and I love your stuff! It's been really informative and helpful for me while I'm learning the game. I just wanted to ask, do you have any recommendations for replacements for the DLC trinkets for players like me who only have the base game?
Thanks :)
Did you have any specific ones you wanted replacements for? The general rule of thumb is getting some form of accuracy on most characters, then what comes second depends on the hero.
@@ShuffleFM Oh wow, thanks for replying so quickly! The only ones that really stick out are Salacious Diary since I use Vestal a ton and Shameful Locket since I've been enjoying experimenting with Dismas (I actually kept him alive this time lol). Also, do you have any tips for getting Shambler trinkets, since those came up decently often in this video too?
For Vestal you can use tome of holy healing, chirurgeon's charm, or junias head if you can handle the stress. For HWM surgical gloves and ancestor ring are great vanilla replacements. For shambler the easiest thing to do is to fight it in apprentice. If you have some level 2 characters with level 2 or 3 stuff it should be a bit easier.
@@ShuffleFM Awesome, thanks so much for the tips! Keep up the great work man!
Those are some really cool combinations!
But I'm guessing in some cases having 2 class trinkets can be even more powerful, right? I guess then it's a matter of what strategy you wanna employ
Im kinda new and i im really scared of using martyr seal. I mean what if i get unlucky and just lost a nice flagellant. When somone is about to die i insta heal. How much benefit can i get from 60dmg and 15crit risking the pj like that
Flagellant caps out his deathblow resist at 80% ish with the martyrs seal. With the build shown in the video, on low hp, you can reliably get him to act first on the next round, thanks to the extra 4 SPD. And he has access to exsanguinate, which is a damaging skill WITH self healing. If it crits, it gives you huge value. There are also other smaller benefits to getting to death's door with flagellant, like aoe healing the rest of the party.
The fact that there is a small chance for him to die sucks, but that's darkest dungeon for ya.
Wind Carve had an amazing response right there. The only thing I can add is that with some experience you can understand when flagellant is safe to drop to low hp or 0. At the same time definitely don't leave him at 0 to spam punish, that's the kind of greed that gets him killed. It's more of an insurance policy for big returns if he does hit 0.
When you say "I would run this on champion" do you mean you would take it even if you had stuff like focus ring or ancestral trinkets?
I somehow managed to champion and got a bunch of trinkets, and I think it would be fun to take some lower lvl trinkets like dazzling charm or paralyzer crest or medic greaves, but i dont know if it wouldnt just be better to take focus ring on everybody
Non-Euclidean Hilt is my favorite on Crusader.
Can you make a list without crimson court? I'm too noob to play with it XD
Hey just a genuine question, is running the Crimson trinket pairs not worth the bonus effect?
Some of them are good enough to run by themselves which is cool
My fav trinket its the blue prot boots. Thy are just way too good and i dont have to mind moving so i can just go no dancing moves and make a full position dependant team without many worries.
Also cleansing cristal for damage/healing ocultist its great
Dirge is too good for Jester, the stats on it are just crazy. Should be his best trinket.
Dumb trinket combo: seal of fasting + rat carcass
Seal of fasting gives really big buffs when the crimson curse is on "wasting" level
Rat carcass makes you not die from crimson curse
Flagellant + Martyr's Seal is a pair I wish I knew sooner before getting my fully geared LV6 double critted at the Weald 😭😭😭
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Could you make a video of this update?
I'm new to the game
thanks. DD2
Hey! Educational and entertaining as always!
I have one question though because I couldn't find the answer anywhere: How many adventurers does it take to die in a pit?
Sun ring and crystal feather are my favorite trinkets for everything
I'm at week 90 and have never seen surgical gloves. Are they that rare?
The wiki says they are Warrens exclusive but I don't know if that's right anymore. Regardless they are a bit rare it feels like. You might be able to snipe them from the nomad wagon too if that's possible. Sorry I can't definitively say :(
Weird question sort of relevant to this vid: Thanks to your content, I've gotten enough confidence to skip over Stygian and try out a Bloodmoon run (hadn't done Crimson Court before either). It's going ~okay~ but I've lost about 4 Vestals now due to deathblow resistance being a myth. As a result, I've been without my Salacious Diary or my Tome of Holy Healing for the majority of this playthrough, and have been stuck using Junia's Head and wasting my off-slot on stress reduction.
I'm currently at 5/16 deaths and around week 45/100. At this point should I just off someone with some of my trash trinkets so I can spawn the Shrieker and get my good stuff back?
Update: antiquarian just randomly generated a tome of holy healing for me. I know you were all in suspense.
Do you have color of madness? You can have people die in Endless Harvest to lose trinkets and not add to the death count. It specifically has to be endless though.
@@ShuffleFM I was actually just thinking about that 10 minutes ago. Because I just lost a Vestal in endless mode . To the first deathblow check. :D
I guess I somehow haven't hit 8 trinkets yet though.
@@ShuffleFM Thanks for the tip! Got these goodies back: imgur.com/a/SAcl2P1
I think you can tell that I lost 3 vestals.
The combo I like for Hellion is Heaven's Hairpin + Berserk Charm.
For arbalest I like acc + debuff Chance, suppressing fire ist so good in non boss dungeons
Hey yo! Shuff. If you only got 1 box. For the full playthrough. Which box. Aria. Crecenso. Overture?
Crescendo!
Better set of trinkets for leper:
Ancestor candle
Ancestors signet ring or as what he put the focus ring.
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I once got a Blasphemous Vial from praying at the Abbey.
Antiquarian: Feather Crystals my default for most of the characters.
Arbalest: Excellent point with the Dismas' Head, normally don't run around with bandages on her when I should.
Crusader: I think I've only used Ancestor's Scroll on Crusader and Vestal.
Hellion: Should probably use Heavens pin.
Jester: That Jester one is interesting.
Leper: Accuracy is what he needs. (Also didn't know about that crit fact)
Man-at-arms: Don't know how to play M-a-a 100% so it's nice to know a bit of something about him.
For neutral trinket for Vestal I always give her her head x)
+30% healing is just too juicy to pass.
I know Ancestors ring gives acc and survivavility but I just spam Focus ring on all my DPS for that sweet crit. I call it Yolo ring :D
My favorite trinket is my hands, it can cover my mouth when it's 3am and I wanna scream to oblivion for getting Crit three times straight in the Warrens with Reynauld's dodge sitting at 40+ after being buffed by the Antiquarian. And now I have to start a new game soon for the achievement
this is quite pog
No musketeer? Is it because its sorta a reskin?
Yes :)
Add +30 dodge to the grave robber by giving her Camouflage Cloak and Ancestral's coat for example (summing up to about 60), synergize it with Antiquarian Guard me (additional dodge buff) and boom: 80% damage is neutralized by dodge by The Robber.
Ok but what if it’s a highway man with riposte
This is an interesting list but it suffers from the constraint of using the class trinkets which IMO are rarely the best options except for some that are hard to get like CC & Farmstead trinkets. I would’ve liked to see you rank the best for each hero’s role & give an option without the DLC trinkets. For example, Occultist has 2 very different roles & even Vestal (for rank2 I’d use Profane Scroll + Salacious Diary). You could’ve done a melee & a ranged version for Highwayman & GR.
And I realize it might be boring to just repeat the best trinkets like Surgical Gloves, Crescendo Box, Signet Ring, Feather crystal, etc, but those ARE the best options in a lot of cases.
Lastly, might’ve been helpful for newbies to give basic advice like “when in doubt, just pair Sun Ring with a speed/ def trinket like Feather Crystal.”
Now the hag was dumpstered. I remember her being really tough. only the first one though... I don't find it a coincidence my back row vestal got into the pot like 4 times in a row though. luckily grave robber hound master and highwayman smacked her out of it always within a turn. when the witch had low hp ignored the pot and hit her... I remember filthy robot? saying years ago that you could just ignore the pot altogether.? think I did that once...
4:02 and welcome to the jam
I am suprised he didn't use last will and testament on leper, getting a large 15 accuracy as long as his hp is above 60% (which isn't hard to maintain) is real good
i thought that you would give Ancestor's pen to hellion, why surgical gloves? because of the acc?
More accuracy for iron swan to snipe those rank 4 enemies. Hellion isn't hit capped vs most of them with just a hairpin.
@@ShuffleFM o,i see now,thx! might actually try running surgical gloves on her for once
I never use hellion's class trinkets, its always focus ring/surgical gloves(if I have ACC quirk) + ancestors pen
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Her low level trinkets are trash, but the CC set is pretty neat. Especially the Lioness Warpaint
@@S_Black I'd have to disagree with you on that, the warpaint's damage is unreliable, you'll need her to get beat up for it to start working and not heal her so it stays active. I personally don't like to keep her low cos its dangerous and its usually better to try and end fights without taking much hits. For those reasons, i find the warpaint's uptime to be quite low.
Another issue i faced when trying the CC set was the accuracy, idk why, the 7 accuracy from the set seemed to be so much worse than the 10 i get from focus ring, i missed alot more attacks.
The set also lacks crit which is really freaking good on hellion.
Fleet Florin + Flashpowder spam my beloved
Probably dumb question : how do i equip trinkets ?
Drag it from the box or inventory during a mission and put it on the empty box next to their weapon and armor :)
@@ShuffleFM sorry didn't mention i'm on ps4. Can't click and drag.
Crits always do full dmg? Nice! Brings to mind D&D crits when you multiply 1s or 2s in a D8 or D10 rolls.
Ayy I got my wish
Ngl I have a bad experience with Martyr's Seal and DD buff Flag. Tried it once with my level 4 Flag and as soon as he hit DD the first DD check he had he failed and died and I was so ticked and the experience slightly traumatized me lol.
I know it's a high risk high reward but man the RNG screwed me so bad. It wasn't even a damage move it was a stress move
You have a different play style than me that´s for sure.