Elden Ring - Maliketh's different Dialogues after Gurranq Questline (Intro, Player Death, Defeat)

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  • 00:00 Maliketh's Introduction and Phase 1 Player Death
    00:21 After Gurranq Questline
    00:50 Phase 2 Player Death
    01:01 After Gurranq Questline
    01:11 Defeating Maliketh
    01:25 After Gurranq Questline
    The Mohg headpiece I am wearing is from this mod: www.nexusmods.com/eldenring/m...
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  • @GamesfromMarsYT
    @GamesfromMarsYT  2 ปีที่แล้ว +421

    The Mohg headpiece I am wearing is from this mod: www.nexusmods.com/eldenring/mods/722
    I missed these dialogues in my previous "All Boss Dialogues" video: th-cam.com/video/RohUt2spFIQ/w-d-xo.html

    • @ferms547
      @ferms547 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Wish that you could have such a headpiece in regular since you can get the robe.

    • @EFlatPC
      @EFlatPC 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is the rest of the armor from the game? If so, what is it?

    • @GamesfromMarsYT
      @GamesfromMarsYT  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@EFlatPC Nepheli's Champion Set.

    • @Ruby_Mochii
      @Ruby_Mochii 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      For a second I was like, Did I just really missed that helm after I swiped and gathered everything in the lands between.

    • @mrsamsam24
      @mrsamsam24 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      YOOO! How did you get the Mohg helm? I’m trying to do a play through with his gear and that’s the cherry on top!

  • @dannyboi5887
    @dannyboi5887 ปีที่แล้ว +1545

    "Forgive me, Marika.....The Golden Order.....cannot be restored."
    God that line is so fucking heartbreaking knowing his backstory. He literally did nothing wrong and was by far the most loyal servant of Marika, yet he still believes everything that happened was his fault and considers himself a failure to not just her but the entire order.

    • @greenmntn8023
      @greenmntn8023 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      He most likely apologized to marila because he didn’t want to kill us and held back deep down.

    • @Runwithmewillya
      @Runwithmewillya 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      But yet to ascend you must gull him hewn him into the erdtree.

    • @Runwithmewillya
      @Runwithmewillya 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@greenmntn8023 ha what a joke it's a world of kill or be killed. Have you never realized that you couldn't save a single soul? And the more you try the more that is lose.

    • @DashBolt
      @DashBolt 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      ​@stray_starving_wolf and that's why he lost. He tried to save us by making us turn back

    • @Runwithmewillya
      @Runwithmewillya 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DashBolt and yet he ended up nothing but a pile of ash

  • @bubbajoe117
    @bubbajoe117 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8339

    He sounds genuinely betrayed if you fight him after his questline.

    • @general_jellyfish4202
      @general_jellyfish4202 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1235

      He took you as a friend, only to find out you're gonna kill him and ruin his duty once more.

    • @johncra8982
      @johncra8982 2 ปีที่แล้ว +652

      It's heartbreaking yeah he felt like a mentor or an older relative

    • @thant0s
      @thant0s 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1066

      The same friend who not only helped him push through the pain and suffering to complete his duty to return the fragments of Destined Death, but also saved him from losing himself to it, and having the fortitude to stay their hand when he was vulnerable because of it.
      This poor creature did not deserve what happened to him. Marika is a monster for this.

    • @johncra8982
      @johncra8982 2 ปีที่แล้ว +410

      @@thant0s necessary sacrifice, just like blaidd :(
      Makes you wonder who miquella and malenias shadows were tho

    • @killerkz0
      @killerkz0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@thant0s dammmmnnn 🔥🔥

  • @massacremcjoe3
    @massacremcjoe3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4921

    I believe this voice actor was chosen purely on how he says "Destined Death" what a boss.

    • @mralabbad7
      @mralabbad7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +208

      DesHHHtenD DeFFFF

    • @tz5116
      @tz5116 2 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      @TheDemonKingDemise Goosebumps, every time.

    • @synergy8879
      @synergy8879 2 ปีที่แล้ว +136

      @TheDemonKingDemise “WE SHALL DEVOUA THE VERY GAWUDS.”

    • @iota-09
      @iota-09 2 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      Got to rykard early, so i remember his death dialogue better than his phase change dialogues...
      "Now we can devaua the goH-, togethAA!"

    • @VladtheImpaler_99
      @VladtheImpaler_99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Jonathan Keeble I beleive. He reads a lot of the Horus Heresy books on audible and does a great job

  • @cinders5305
    @cinders5305 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4740

    0:27, the way his voice wavers, likes he's seriously about to cry just hurts man. He really did see the player as a friend and being forced to fight us breaks his heart.

    • @lucataranto6553
      @lucataranto6553 2 ปีที่แล้ว +498

      this is Sif alternate cutscene all over again.

    • @grimreefer213
      @grimreefer213 2 ปีที่แล้ว +318

      It breaks my heart. He’s my favorite character

    • @keyhanamani
      @keyhanamani 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      😖

    • @darthmader057mmm6
      @darthmader057mmm6 2 ปีที่แล้ว +80

      @@grimreefer213 same. i consider myself a pretty manly guy but this almost made me shed tears

    • @parkout95
      @parkout95 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Why did we needed to fight him?
      Couldnt we had progressed or went back to the lands between? Since the tree was already burned

  • @johncra8982
    @johncra8982 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9094

    I'm so glad I beat gurranq's entire quest before I got here. Made the fight feel incredibly meaningful considering how much betrayal this poor guy's suffered already.

    • @loopstratos4619
      @loopstratos4619 2 ปีที่แล้ว +816

      I had all the deathroots before Maliketh but didn't feed it to Gurranq before fighting Maliketh...
      I ended up paying a visit after "killing" Maliketh which made for a weird experience. I literally thought they were two different clergymen because he was still there after the fight.

    • @lordhelmchen3154
      @lordhelmchen3154 2 ปีที่แล้ว +769

      @@InsulinRunner Farum Azula suppsedly is kind of "outside" the realm of normal time, as can be seen with Placidusax' fight, so you can kill Maliketh and still have the other version that lives under the normal laws of time of the Lands Between exist.

    • @CraZYJU710Sk
      @CraZYJU710Sk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +134

      @@lordhelmchen3154 yea but it’s weird like how would he know who we were if we’re going through the past to fight him like we do placidusax or maybe we just go back in time for the dragon lord and not malikath it could be he’s in the future some how in farum azula and thus knows who we are after giving him the death root idk it could just be just fromsofts writing and me getting confused or maybe I’m not over thinking it these are all just kinda theories besides us going back in time to fight dragon lord

    • @CatroiOz
      @CatroiOz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +312

      @@CraZYJU710Sk you're not going to the past you're going outside of time where past present and future meet

    • @PantsaBear
      @PantsaBear 2 ปีที่แล้ว +211

      @@lordhelmchen3154 I guess, doesn't really explain why that would be the case for Maliketh and not the case for Alexander the Warrior Jar (who very much dies in Farum Azula).
      Almost makes Guranq still showing up after beating Maliketh feel like a bug

  • @vexn3699
    @vexn3699 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1470

    I'm really sad for Maliketh. He was a pawn from the start, and died feeling like he failed. I can only wonder what would he had done if he knew he was so utterly betrayed, charged with an impossible task by the very person who orchestrated it's failure

    • @cjinghou
      @cjinghou 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      He would had done nothing because he is incapable of betraying Marika

    • @zsDUGGZ
      @zsDUGGZ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +168

      @@cjinghou he actually can betray Marika, but he is not able to betray the golden order. If Marika betrayed the golden order, then Maliketh would have been after her if he knew the full story.

    • @TheStraightestWhitest
      @TheStraightestWhitest 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@zsDUGGZ He's able to, just not willing to.

    • @cjinghou
      @cjinghou 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@zsDUGGZ But why Blaidd did not go against Ranni when she betray the golden order tho?

    • @zsDUGGZ
      @zsDUGGZ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +107

      @@cjinghou Blaidd is one of the wolf companions gifted to an Empryean from the Greater Will. he was able to resist his cursed existence for a while through sheer willpower, but when you get to the end of Ranni's questline Blaidd will lose himself and go hostile.

  • @dinorex3464
    @dinorex3464 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1719

    His "Black Blade" nickname was already badass, but I love the way he calls himself "Marika's Black Blade".

    • @entropy444
      @entropy444 2 ปีที่แล้ว +101

      Gurranq is to marika where blaidd is to ranni

    • @WXYKE
      @WXYKE 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Marikas BBB

    • @TheStraightestWhitest
      @TheStraightestWhitest 2 ปีที่แล้ว +148

      @@entropy444 But better. Way better. He's also her half-brother making him at least part God and has killed countless other Gods and Demigods, including Marika's Empyrean rival, the Gloam-Eyed Queen.

    • @crestfallenwarrior8435
      @crestfallenwarrior8435 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      He is her shadow and guardian similar to Blaiid with Ranni

    • @noah9942.
      @noah9942. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@TheStraightestWhitest and he alo e took out the Gloom eyed queen and her godskin apostles, who weirded the black flame when it was at its strongest, by himself, all before he had destined death.

  • @archie3547
    @archie3547 ปีที่แล้ว +405

    Intro: It genuinely sounds like Maliketh dosent want to hurt you, and is sorrowful. But he knows his duty is more important, or at least he’s more afraid of Marika.
    P1 Death: This change is great, it makes it sound like Maliketh is warning you, knowing he has to kill you if come for destined death, he dosent want you to die.
    P2 Death: I think this was changed to show Maliketh trying to excuse his actions, that he wouldn’t of killed you if it weren’t for Marika’s orders.
    Defeat: He apologises to Marika most likely because he believes the only reason he lost was because he didn’t want to kill you, because you were the only person to satiate his hunger, not even Marika did that.
    Beautiful implications on his dialogue, shows how Maliketh is more than just Marika’s loyal dog.

    • @greenmntn8023
      @greenmntn8023 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Wow holy shit that makes a lot of sense. So impressive how small dialogues like that have so many meanings.

    • @ThatsOk83
      @ThatsOk83 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Not afraid of Marika, he's just like Blaidd. Forced to obey his empyrean even if she's deceiving him

  • @gajspalt
    @gajspalt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1519

    When I first met Gurranq, I knew he was going to be a boss fight eventually.
    No way a character that chad is just going to be left unused after his delivery quest.

    • @hkprx6911
      @hkprx6911 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      But Guranq and Maliketh are not the same character 🤨

    • @gajspalt
      @gajspalt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +188

      @@hkprx6911 You're trolling right? Or haven't done the quest yet?

    • @mzllrr
      @mzllrr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +176

      @@hkprx6911 they are, the only reason why maliketh is still alive in caelid aftrer you kill him is because farum azula is a mixture of the past present and future which is why when you go to fight placidusax he's rewinding time

    • @kobragaming9420
      @kobragaming9420 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      @@hkprx6911 they are the same but I also feel like Gurrang is an alter Maliketh created that embodies his guilt for allowing Godwyn to be killed. Gurrang seems to be in a lot of pain and the way he talks about himself seems like he’s a separate identity to Maliketh although inhabiting the same body. Identities usually form through trauma aswell so it tracks

    • @beet0pp
      @beet0pp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@kobragaming9420 for a fictional character ima go with time travel stuff over making up their emotional damage over trauma when the entire game has pretty much only unhappy endings

  • @HollowedPrince
    @HollowedPrince 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1869

    Detail! Honestly, I thought the two were different characters because I finished Gurranq’s quest after I finished the game. To know that they are one in the same is nice if you find all the death root before meeting Malekith. Thank you for this.

    • @kimballbelliston5925
      @kimballbelliston5925 2 ปีที่แล้ว +194

      I think it's mentioned somewhere that time works differently in Farum Azula. Maybe that explains why you can still talk to Gurranq after killing Maliketh. I could be wrong though

    • @AvgAtBes2
      @AvgAtBes2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      ​@@kimballbelliston5925 But then why does Gurranq recognize you in Farum Azula then...?

    • @Criminalupper2200
      @Criminalupper2200 2 ปีที่แล้ว +184

      @@AvgAtBes2 aftere you give him all the deathroot, he says he's leaving on a journey.
      stands to reason that Farum Azula is where he eventually ends up, though since it exists out of time, it's probably been much longer from his perspective than it has yours

    • @halvsketchy9293
      @halvsketchy9293 2 ปีที่แล้ว +78

      @@Criminalupper2200 but if you kill gurraq, the fight against maliketh still happens. Find it strange that he recognize you if you do the quest because of this. Only thing i know for sure is that the fight takes place after ranni stole the rune of death

    • @Zyckro
      @Zyckro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      @@AvgAtBes2 That is curious, because I would say gameplay reasons but the souls series is precisely where that convention would be defied. The souls series is known for free form or missable questlines, so it feels like this was purposeful (or an oversight).

  • @joaolima9622
    @joaolima9622 ปีที่แล้ว +311

    I see people talking about Godrick, Margit/Morgott and Rykard voicelines all the time, but this guy imo takes the spot for best voice acting in the game. The way he says "to kill WHAT?" gives me chills.

    • @Flameprince
      @Flameprince ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Same. You can feel he was really afraid of what his defeat meant

    • @lordofdestruction9351
      @lordofdestruction9351 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      ​@@Flameprince the to kill what part is fucking legendary its top 2 best voicelines in the game
      Top 1 is : foul tarnished,in search of the elden ring,emboldened by the flame of ambition, someone must exitinguish thy flame, let it be margit the fell

    • @Runwithmewillya
      @Runwithmewillya 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Rarghhh! Marika! Is this what it is to sin?! Will things never be the same again!?

    • @aYiN_N0N3xTeNc3
      @aYiN_N0N3xTeNc3 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@lordofdestruction9351yea bro,i was little disappointed that i did not get that line because i give him all deathroots

    • @justice999
      @justice999 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@@lordofdestruction9351 nah top 1 is "have it writ upon thy meager grave... felled by King Morgott... the last of all kings"

  • @Professor-TripleExtraLarge
    @Professor-TripleExtraLarge 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3075

    Pretty tragic how he laments to his half-sister how the Golden Order can't be restored when she was the one who broke it in the first place. Maliketh was just another puppet of the Greater Will to the very end, just like Blaidd. 😞

    • @rockgamiasedes677
      @rockgamiasedes677 2 ปีที่แล้ว +474

      Not puppet to greater will.Puppet to Marika. She was playing her own game to thwart the greater will.

    • @remythenerd7985
      @remythenerd7985 2 ปีที่แล้ว +233

      Maliketh is as Blaidd. A loyal gift to those favored by the Greater Will

    • @dragonlogos1
      @dragonlogos1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +314

      Maliketh is exactly like Blaidd. That is why he is a wolf. And really she didn’t break the golden order. ranni did by killing Godwin. Which Failing to stop her from stealing destined death is why he is cursed. Which we just did again. That line is actually really sad now that I think about it.
      Maliketh just wants to be good boy and everyone is always screwing him over.

    • @siragito405
      @siragito405 2 ปีที่แล้ว +111

      marika and ranni, both are same, trying to not serve greater will, instead served their own will.

    • @dragonlogos1
      @dragonlogos1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +103

      @@rockgamiasedes677 who knows what she wanted, she is insane at this point. She literally broke the elden ring during an argument with her husband/ other self who then tried to fix it.

  • @ogion539
    @ogion539 2 ปีที่แล้ว +198

    To me, Maliketh is the most epic boss fight in the game.
    To know that he, willingly, safeguards the ability for demigods to die and does so in the secluded Crumbling Farum Azula at the behest of Marika just makes him so cool lol.

  • @Werehex
    @Werehex 2 ปีที่แล้ว +672

    I would do anything for this man lmao. He deserves happiness for once

    • @echo1180
      @echo1180 2 ปีที่แล้ว +88

      How dope would it have been to have him as our shadow as Elden Lord. Rip

    • @captainblue5096
      @captainblue5096 2 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      @@echo1180 Sadly, we’re not Empyreans. We don’t get cool sword fighting beast men to do our bidding.

    • @ducktape-3470
      @ducktape-3470 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@captainblue5096 i mean.. you CAN marry Ranni

    • @captainblue5096
      @captainblue5096 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@ducktape-3470 Yeah. You also kill her Shadow after it forcefully turns on her.
      Actually, on that note, what happened to the other Shadows? Maliketh is Marika’s shadow and Blaidd is Ranni’s shadow, but there are two more Empyreans we know of, being Malenia and Miquella. However, we don’t know who their shadows are or where they are.

    • @datdude2339
      @datdude2339 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@captainblue5096 there’s three possible reasons
      A. They never got shadows for some reason (idk why)
      B. They have shadows but are off doing their own mission like how Blaidd was with ranni except it’s somewhere the player hasn’t seen or been to yet (dlc maybe)
      C. Because they were twins and their devotion to one another melania become miquellas shadow which somewhat explains what after her fight with radahan she fell asleep and due to miquella being captured and imprisoned she simply stayed gone bc her light was gone as well.
      Idk but those are my guesses

  • @Nightingale1887
    @Nightingale1887 2 ปีที่แล้ว +454

    The weapon he wields is like the Cinquedea dagger you can find down near the clergyman after some parkour down the cliff. Which boost beast incantations.

    • @foolishmuleth6757
      @foolishmuleth6757 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Such a pain to get that thing

    • @bucknasty69
      @bucknasty69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Have they fixed the glitch where you get instakilled when you try to work your way down there?

    • @foxymaster87
      @foxymaster87 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@bucknasty69 yeah but it wasn't a glitch, they intentionally put a killer invisible wall so no one could reach that part, maybe the next patch will add some content there

    • @sagivalia5041
      @sagivalia5041 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@foxymaster87 I think they removed it, I followed the guidance in the Wiki and got the dagger + the dragoncrest talisman which is a godsend early game

    • @Redhot9990
      @Redhot9990 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sagivalia5041 nope I got it Wednesday of this week

  • @proudlarry8225
    @proudlarry8225 2 ปีที่แล้ว +157

    Friendship ended with Blaidd the Half-Beast.
    Now, Maliketh the Black Blade is my best friend.

  • @danielholguin7621
    @danielholguin7621 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Shoutout to FromSoft for making a character this badass and intimidating while also making him very sympathetic.

  • @THYBOT
    @THYBOT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +221

    Maliketh is one of my favorite character's in the game

    • @rionhanger
      @rionhanger 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      same because he somehow resemble guts

  • @brennuswhite1845
    @brennuswhite1845 2 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    fighting maliketh I remember multiple times saying, out loud, "I don't wanna do this" (in reference to fighting him) not because of how hars he was but because he felt like a friend

    • @NSEBMB
      @NSEBMB 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He was pretty hard tho. I was stuck on him longer than malenia.

    • @brennuswhite1845
      @brennuswhite1845 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@NSEBMB oh yeah don't get me wrong, he's certainly one of the harder bosses that fromsoft has made. but I like the fight, I think it's hard but not in an unfair way

    • @Lordparable
      @Lordparable ปีที่แล้ว +6

      All my ng+ runs stop at maliketh. I refuse to kill him again

  • @senatecaptainbly
    @senatecaptainbly 2 ปีที่แล้ว +134

    The genuine heartbreak and sadness in his voice when he sees it's you after his quest line finish is literally killing me, oh my f*cking god 😭😭😭😭😭😭

  • @Anto_Skum
    @Anto_Skum 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1161

    Don't worry, Maliketh... I restored the Golden Order for you, and wore your armor on the throne to honor your sacrifice! Not all of us can be swayed by blue waifus.

    • @Dastardly_Duo
      @Dastardly_Duo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +75

      The Golden Order is without Destined Death. Can't restore that unless you make somebody else suffer like Marika did with Maliketh

    • @Anto_Skum
      @Anto_Skum 2 ปีที่แล้ว +247

      @@Dastardly_Duo You're right, my Order isn't just Golden... It's Perfect.

    • @gaxxaroth7539
      @gaxxaroth7539 2 ปีที่แล้ว +174

      I see some chads here who don't simp for blue witches and let themselves be influenced by them. Very refreshing to see.

    • @kotorandcorvid4968
      @kotorandcorvid4968 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Anto_Skum no

    • @kotorandcorvid4968
      @kotorandcorvid4968 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      @@gaxxaroth7539 Ranni has the best ending

  • @Future_Doggo
    @Future_Doggo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Like the Twin Princes and Gehrman, I wish there was an ending were we could just chill with the boss for eternity while the world ends.

  • @towablewarrior2426
    @towablewarrior2426 2 ปีที่แล้ว +145

    Maliketh fits into the Artorias, Fume Knight, and Gael vibe in terms of combat, design, and lore; so my favorite boss of the game

    • @ADPROFUNDIS123
      @ADPROFUNDIS123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      He is also a guts reference

    • @akiraigarashi2874
      @akiraigarashi2874 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Considering all of them are from dlcs, wonder if we'll get another boss like that for ER too

    • @Xoph707
      @Xoph707 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ADPROFUNDIS123 Elden ring is alot like berserk, hostile creatures are always against you and people you would consider friends betray you like sir gideon

    • @hydroshock1853
      @hydroshock1853 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@akiraigarashi2874The trailer appears to have a man-lion boss, might be inspired by Maliketh

  • @Aravestia
    @Aravestia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +629

    This guy has the saddest fate, he was Marika's shadow and always thought he was protecting Marika by sealing Destined Death, not knowing she betrayed him long ago by having a part in the Night of the Black Knives plot
    Edit: My rationale is based off the Remembrance of Maliketh saying she betrayed him + the Black Knife Armour saying the assassins were related to Marika.
    I agree this has a big plot hole/flaw as she was devastated after Godwyn's death, so she couldn't have killed him.

    • @jj-bu8gh
      @jj-bu8gh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Wait are you saying marika had part in the night of the black knives or marikas shadow?

    • @WasaBurger
      @WasaBurger 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ranni is the one behind the night of black knives, she says so if you give Rogier the black knifeprint before meeting her.

    • @Aravestia
      @Aravestia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +109

      @@jj-bu8gh The black knife armour set states that: "The assassins that carried out the deeds of the Night of the Black Knives were all women, and rumored to be Numen who had close ties with Marika herself."
      Meaning it was most likely orchestrated by Marika herself, and she was making use of Ranni and the Numen women to steal the rune of death. The assassins would have needed to fight Maliketh or try and steal the rune from him, so she end up betraying her own shadow

    • @ArribaElMole
      @ArribaElMole 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Aravestia The mission was kill her son?

    • @Aravestia
      @Aravestia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@WasaBurger At the same time Marika had a part in it too, the assasins were not sent by Ranni, they were Numen women with close ties to Marika according to the Black Knife Armour Description

  • @scorpionman2000.
    @scorpionman2000. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Even though maliketh killing the player is a one word difference, the meaning and delivery of that line is so impactful .

  • @rieJW
    @rieJW 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    With the completed questline, the sadness and vulnerability at the start of the music makes so much more sense now with his anguish in the new intro dialogue since the poor guy felt hurt from being betrayed again 🥺

  • @salazar84
    @salazar84 2 ปีที่แล้ว +680

    For the record... or at least in my case. You do not need to finish his quest to get the alternate lines. I think I just gave him 4-5 seeds, basically I left him after he goes berserk and you calm him down. After that I kinda forgot about him, when I reached to this part I got the alternate lines... so yeah, you probably do not need to finish his quest to get those lines.

    • @thant0s
      @thant0s 2 ปีที่แล้ว +181

      It's likely due to you "saving" him when he loses himself over consuming Deathroot that has him form that connection with you. He's been through a lot, and you helped in a big way.

    • @omegax-_-7141
      @omegax-_-7141 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      1:11 I still got this one even though I completed his question 🤔
      not complaining I like how utterly confused he is as to what are we trying to kill

    • @averijames3741
      @averijames3741 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I got the before questline dialogue and I had given him 7 deathroots already

    • @louis-philippechapleau8149
      @louis-philippechapleau8149 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Could be a glitch. Because of the Open World, Npc Quest work differently than others Fromsoft games. They can go forward even when missing certain parts of their quest, so I wouldn't be suprised if certain script activate themselve or not for unknown reason. Edgelord never invaded me at the roundtable but still disappeared during my first playthrough.

    • @android19willpwn
      @android19willpwn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I did that and didn't get the alternate lines

  • @mustafa_wajeah5682
    @mustafa_wajeah5682 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    “ Cower before Maliketh, The Black Blade “
    My god this line is badass

  • @ahd1092
    @ahd1092 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    i love how he says ‘why covet destined death… to kill WHAT???…’

    • @eleanorgreywolfe5142
      @eleanorgreywolfe5142 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Me on my way to become Lord of the Frenzy Flame: Everyone.

  • @zypherwolfe88
    @zypherwolfe88 2 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    Alt dialogue broke my heart, Gurranq...Blaidd....you both got done so wrong /cry

    • @x1teDota
      @x1teDota 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They're both good boys.

  • @microwaveface6729
    @microwaveface6729 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Genuinely the coolest boss and character in Elden Ring, nothing can beat him.

  • @8-gamingnight288
    @8-gamingnight288 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I love how you can hear both confusion and sadness in his voice, he's confused as to why you would come here and sad that he has no choice but to kill you

  • @timnakautoga3512
    @timnakautoga3512 2 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    I love how this game doesn't always reward you with an item, but most of the time opts to reward you with lore.

  • @HoundtheVoid
    @HoundtheVoid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Damn, didn’t realize they were one and the same till now. It’s funny cause just the other day I was in the sanctum and was trying to get a look at Gurranqs character model to see his face, and if you get close enough to an npc you can phase thru and see different layers of their model. Took me forever to get an angels so I could see his face only to discover it was covered by armor, and all I said was: “ohh, that reminds me of Maliketh”

  • @Bungadood
    @Bungadood 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    In dark souls games, the item description is always there to review, but the dialogue trees span many play throughs and branches. Ty for your service.

  • @higglybiggly1174
    @higglybiggly1174 2 ปีที่แล้ว +138

    Love this. Bizarre though that they included boss lines for him, but not others? How dope would it be to let Malenia know where Miquella is? Or if Ranni had different dialogue if you've done her quest line during the second phase of Renalla. Seems weird they did it for Malekith and no one else.

    • @WasaBurger
      @WasaBurger 2 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      I’ve seen a few others wonder why we can’t tell Melania where Miquella is but I think people are forgetting most everyone is insane in the game and bosses are no exception. Especially her considering she’s been festering for a long while with scarlet rot and you saw how that turned out for Radahn.

    • @strwbrrycffee
      @strwbrrycffee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      whoa this would be so cool to see!

    • @Minihood31770
      @Minihood31770 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      The Ranni thing always bothered me.
      She saw me try to kill her mother, but still wants to work with me and doesn't mention it?
      Or I'm already working for her, and she doesn't mention it when I try to kill her mother?

    • @obscure.reference
      @obscure.reference 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Minihood31770 her mother is a crazy person you just gave her a little reality check. look how she’s running the academy these days.

    • @MDMarcus
      @MDMarcus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      @@Minihood31770 Rennala is still alive after the fight. I asume you just beat her and take away her Great Rune.

  • @hot_soup4319
    @hot_soup4319 2 ปีที่แล้ว +242

    I was under the impression Gurranq and Maliketh were different people considering Gurranq sticks around well after you beat Maliketh.
    Edit: lotta folks mentioning the whole Azula being "outta time" thing which imma be real I totally forgot. Easy to forget touches of lore after you've read 1001 item decriptions ya feel me lol.
    Honestly the real question is how that lone beastman got into Groveside Cave.

    • @WardofSquid
      @WardofSquid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      "Margit" will still invade you in the Altus Plateau even though you kill Morgott, which led me to think the same thing.

    • @Kropothead
      @Kropothead 2 ปีที่แล้ว +161

      It’s a time dilation thing, I think. Farum Azula doesn’t obey Marika’s Law of Causality.

    • @naxergss2625
      @naxergss2625 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      MALIKETH

    • @LaughableSynonyms
      @LaughableSynonyms 2 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      @@WardofSquid that's because Margit and the invading version are illusions.
      Gurranq and Maliketh are the same person.

    • @Joseph-ot8rc
      @Joseph-ot8rc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I read a theory that explained this with the fact that Farum Azula is linked to the concept of time, possibly rewinding or stopping time (see Placidusax), so the reason his Gurranq version is still alive after that, might be related to this. Or, as we have often seen so far, it might not be supposed to happen and will get patched soon

  • @DawgThisGuyIzFunnyAf
    @DawgThisGuyIzFunnyAf ปีที่แล้ว +7

    His voice trembles in such a heartbreaking way as if he’s confused or feels betrayed

  • @zootsanchez
    @zootsanchez 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    He says "Destined Death" like it's a top shelf perfume in an 80s commercial

  • @WardofSquid
    @WardofSquid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +166

    For those who don't get it (like me until now), *Gurraq WAS Maliketh* this whole time! Even tho you CAN finish Gurraq's quest AFTER killing Maliketh, they ARE in fact the same.

    • @MrFelblood
      @MrFelblood 2 ปีที่แล้ว +95

      Because he goes to the city outside of time after he collects all the deathroot, even if you don't bring it to him, so even if you kill him outside of time, he's still looking for the rest of the deathroot back in your own time.

    • @hospuk1714
      @hospuk1714 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      No shit homie

    • @rosecullen4429
      @rosecullen4429 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@MrFelblood great explanation!

    • @TheXavierfull
      @TheXavierfull 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@MrFelblood That does not make sense if i have the deathroot in my inventory he cannot collect it, they are different beings, one is named Beast clergyman, the other Gurranq beast clergyman, if you kill one the other lives, if they confirm that is the same then thats an oversight from the devs bc does not work like other characters that have double bodies like dungeater or sellen, and also lorewise Maliketh is supposed to be trapped in the farum afaik.

    • @ericemanuelsson7416
      @ericemanuelsson7416 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@TheXavierfull Yeah, it's pretty obvious they are separate beings that only have a connection with each other. The different voicelines can be explained by the Rune of Death being more "whole" when Gurranq's quest has been done

  • @echo1180
    @echo1180 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Man even though I’m not a huge fan of this fights mechanics, I feel so bad for his character. He’s got such a sad story :(.

  • @jeanmouloude
    @jeanmouloude 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Oh maliketh, you deserve so much more

  • @mrkruger1727
    @mrkruger1727 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The ost in his second phase is so badass

  • @soulscure7595
    @soulscure7595 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    It seems like he cared about you after knowing you. Asking why you made him fight you by coming here. He did his job until the end, did everything in his power to uphold marikas will, his legend lives on

  • @grayrim
    @grayrim 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Rip gurranq, you were a real one

  • @courier6640
    @courier6640 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I didn't know his impartial dialogue before now. When I first fought him, my heart broke a bit when he says: "Tarnished? Why?"

    • @Runwithmewillya
      @Runwithmewillya 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Tis no matter...I hereby vow destined death will not be stolen again.

  • @adamfowler350
    @adamfowler350 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This guy has the best voice in any soulsborne game. God his voice is perfect for this character.

  • @Lordparable
    @Lordparable ปีที่แล้ว +3

    “ I will not have it stole from me again” has been replaying in my head all week

  • @thrashfan911
    @thrashfan911 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I don’t care if this took me about 20 tries, this has to be the funnest boss battle, and looks the coolest !

  • @aweshetdima2157
    @aweshetdima2157 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I've a theory that Marika's Betrayal was her helping Ranni steal Destined Death and then blaming Maliketh for his "incompetence" and cursing him to live in Faraam Azula, all to keep Destined Death beyond the reaches of Time and to keep the Shattering as it is.

    • @reactiondavant-garde590
      @reactiondavant-garde590 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Pretty good theory. I find funny that in this game somehow every big disistare caused by womens, at least we have Zorayas and Menalia I guess.

    • @martinc8965
      @martinc8965 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I believe that too, due to the description of the black knives costume, which says that they had close ties to marika herself, in theory, the fact that marika contributed to the event of godwyn's death on purpose even blaming maliketh for his apparent "carelessness" of destined death is more apparent.
      I believe this, and it certainly makes me hate marika/radagon a lot

  • @LoSubstance
    @LoSubstance ปีที่แล้ว +5

    this really was the proof i needed to finally believe that gurranq and maliketh were the same person. I was always thinking that there was always more than one kind of beast clergymen and/or it being a copied model to save resources

  • @kerianhalcyon2769
    @kerianhalcyon2769 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    When I found out that Gurranq, the beast boy who I've been feeding deathroot to for so long, and Maliketh were the same guy...holy moly. I wasn't expecting that. It makes the lore attached to him strange, and makes me wish that there was a way to talk or apologize to him for all the BS that's happened up to that point.

  • @theblackshawarma3605
    @theblackshawarma3605 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Just finished him last night and did the quest. The awsome part is that just so little difference in dialogue changes basically everything. The bad part? I got my ass beat so hard, I didn't even realise it was different from my last playtrough....

  • @TitanDraugen
    @TitanDraugen 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I just beat him today.... It was my first playthrough and I completed his questline. The sheer sadness in his voice seeing me was so heartwrenching. Felling him was even more so. Not to mention my Tarnished was basically his protégé because I use Beast Incantations and Beast Clawhammer.
    I just hope he can rest easy now and no longer suffer.

  • @JortGobbler
    @JortGobbler 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I did his quest line on my first play through and that opening line made me look up whether or not the fight was optional

  • @PierceArner
    @PierceArner 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I really wish that Rennala's fight had this sort of change in dialogue if you only beat her when you have to in order to get the Dark Moon Ring for Ranni's questline.

    • @mark0183
      @mark0183 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Rennala-Welcome to the family son

  • @spiritusually
    @spiritusually 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Man, Maliketh, had I had a choice I would have forfeited your fight. I wanted you to have a happy ending :(

  • @danielcaraballo914
    @danielcaraballo914 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cool little detail. If you move the camera through the Beast Clergyman’s character model at the sanctum just right. You can actually see his armor.

  • @erick4845jr
    @erick4845jr ปีที่แล้ว +2

    He was loyal dog and i always gave him deathroot treats

  • @DirtyDeedsDoneDirtCheapD4C
    @DirtyDeedsDoneDirtCheapD4C 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Best boi gets betrayed once and starts repenting himself, suffering for his "sin" of having failed to do his job and getting his own rune stolen and Marika's child killed, we betray him again and you can definitely hear the pain in his voice, this character gets no love when in reality it's one of the deepest and sader ones, and he's genuinely not a bad dude at all as he's the only god (technically not a god nor demigod but still) with Ranni, that doesn't immediately attack the player, and when he does, it's either because he's thirsty and can't control himself or because he has to do his job

  • @KumaBones
    @KumaBones 2 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    I'm surprised that phase 2's death doesn't perma-kill us. As in, give us a true game over.

    • @jaydeejay4166
      @jaydeejay4166 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@YaMamasAss ... Every other fromsoft game has an explanation
      Demon's souls: spirits bound to the nexus are revived
      Dark souls 1-3: the undead curse revives humanity
      Bloodborne: your contract with an Eldritch being brings you back as though your death were a dream
      Sekiro: idk I didn't play it but I think it is central to the conflict of the story

    • @ericjrthered4365
      @ericjrthered4365 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@jaydeejay4166 wolf has the divine heir’s blood in him, making him ageless and immortal

    • @DanteSuper95
      @DanteSuper95 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@ericjrthered4365 while making people around get sick, don't forget that. Some can literally die if you die too much

    • @Kyrious
      @Kyrious 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Imagine losing all your progress to one fight. That’d be a massive piss of, and would definitely be the most stake you’d have of any fight

    • @sagivalia5041
      @sagivalia5041 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jaydeejay4166 Kinda funny in Sekiro they plain and simple said, you can't die while in Dark Souls it's through being undead with the curse/ashen one and bloodborne you are stuck in some weird dream cycle (which I haven't completely understood)

  • @yjh7863
    @yjh7863 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm touched by how much thought they have put in his storyline... this made him even more tragic

  • @MellowMan339
    @MellowMan339 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im on my second playthrough and this time i wont do his quest but this makes me doing his quest on my first playthrough even more worth it because of how much sorrow and guilt maliketh has

  • @Slipknockout
    @Slipknockout 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This boss is the most epic for me. I wish the black blade phase would be a full HP bar. maybe fromsoftware in a future patch will do it like the boss just full heals from 50%

  • @TheTintedHalo
    @TheTintedHalo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    I approached Maliketh and he said "Tarnished, why wouldst thou? Why...?"
    I literally ran off the arena and closed out of the game. Elden Ring put me through enough suffering, but then to have to kill a character that I spent my entire journey serving and come to find as a friend, and having no other option to proceed through the game?
    Nah man. That was too much.

    • @raghav1026
      @raghav1026 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fromsoft doesn’t seem to be a fan of characters having happy endings sadly 😢

  • @shad3115
    @shad3115 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just wanna say how the tarnished in this video looks great.

  • @Novakayne27
    @Novakayne27 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of the best voices I've ever heard in a video game

  • @emerystheimmortal417
    @emerystheimmortal417 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    I make this comment to try and explain what I see a lot of confusion about in other comments below. The beastman in Caelid and this one are the same person. The fact that you can still complete the deathroot quest after killing Maliketh does not change this fact nor is it an oversight by the developers.
    Farum Azula is a place outside time. The context clue for this is seen when finding the secret boss fight for Dragonlord Placidusax. Time is not linear here. As such you can kill the Dragonlord in the past and Maliketh in the future. It is best thought of as past, present and future all occurring at the same time. It can be a hard concept to first embrace if you only think of time as linear, but time is not a constant and can be affected by outside factors.
    To finish explaining; the beastman questline ends once you have delivered all the death root. At this point he leaves Caelid and heads to Farum Azula where he dies. While for you the player you can kill him at Farum Azula, but still in your present or future complete the questline at Caelid. His future is your past in this scenario and your future is his past. This is a paradox, but is resolved at Farum Azula where the past and future can occur at the same time.
    To those interested in this type of stuff I recommend the TV show Doctor Who.

  • @henryteo8566
    @henryteo8566 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Look, he thinks Marika wants to restore the Golden Order when we know she really wants to get rid of it. Obviously Radagon is duping him into doing things, thinking he is Marika.

  • @MetalGoD
    @MetalGoD 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This game is absolute bonkers. Little things still keeps on coming

  • @brettz5288
    @brettz5288 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dang with my first character I got to Maliketh without finishing Guraanq's quest line and thought it was just another of the same species. Little did I know they were one in the same and there was sooo much more to it than I thought.

  • @urborg74
    @urborg74 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I didn't get all the deathroots until my 3rd playthrough, heard him say those lines and was laughed like "Darmn, developers, you guys just love hiding shit don't you?!" Loved it.

  • @Ocean0Bluu
    @Ocean0Bluu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I was crying during the whole maliketh fight, since I’m a Faith/dex build I found all the death root for him and then when I saw him in Farum Azula the tears didn’t stop, I was so attached to Gurraq😭

  • @Brainhorn
    @Brainhorn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I kept meaning to look up if it was different but never did, then this showed up in my feed

  • @moreirasamy69
    @moreirasamy69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I did not not want to fight my dear friend. But I went above and beyond to make sure he is my friend and to make it so meaningful

  • @termiguin1
    @termiguin1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "I shall not part with it again" goes so hard

  • @closeenoughproductions318
    @closeenoughproductions318 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This feels like Sif and how he changes if you compete his quest in the DLC 💔

  • @ddt9292
    @ddt9292 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    And thats why im going gold mask ending. I felt so horrible hearing "tarnished..... why....would thou?", man the betrayal in his voice, the sadness and the sheer fucking will of forcing himself to fight his friend anyways was fucking horrible. 9.9/10 i couldn't pet him

  • @zackjames2381
    @zackjames2381 ปีที่แล้ว

    The closeup on the helmet at the end 😂

  • @maniacalmurderer4123
    @maniacalmurderer4123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’m kind of glad I forgot about the death root quest because I wouldn’t have wanted to betray my man grauq like that.

  • @thecatoftime8152
    @thecatoftime8152 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Guranq is actually the night riders step brother. Ranni is stuck in the dryer and needs your help

  • @futuristicbus61
    @futuristicbus61 ปีที่แล้ว

    It makes the fight so sad, especially with how much betrayal he’s been through already.

  • @HeavenlyHavoc
    @HeavenlyHavoc 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    His voice effect is really similar to the augur of dunlain in Skyrim. Obviously not the same VA but I think a similar modulation was used. It's kinda neat

  • @MrHeavy466
    @MrHeavy466 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The Sif of Elden Ring.

  • @lando_ch0n748
    @lando_ch0n748 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Where did you get Mohg's head? or is that a mod?

    • @GamesfromMarsYT
      @GamesfromMarsYT  2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I am wearing Mohg's headpiece from this mod: www.nexusmods.com/eldenring/mods/722

  • @streetpunkstreams4730
    @streetpunkstreams4730 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Theres so much lore here and it can all be explained with "he's Marikas Blaidd"

  • @stepsis8437
    @stepsis8437 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:26
    That sent chills through my body the music the ending dialogue Elden Ring is amazing ❤️😔😔❤

  • @hizuru-minakata
    @hizuru-minakata 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    maliketh made me cry I took it out on gurranq

  • @rockgamiasedes677
    @rockgamiasedes677 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This one boss I didn't want to fight. I didn't mean to betray the guy.

  • @waveburner1254
    @waveburner1254 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So here's a neat story.
    I played this game recently for the first time and i've only seen a couple bosses. Maliketh was one of them and i instantly loved his design. I am a huge fan of the beast enemies from bloodborne and he looked like a cleric beast combined with Gael.
    I was anticipating this encounter for so long! Eventually i discovered D and followed him and met Gurranq. He quickly became my favorite NPC. Again due to the fact he's a beast bit also because i love his incantations and they fit my playstyle perfectly. (Str - Fth)
    After he disappeared I was really sad. My favorite NPC which i concidered a friend, gone...
    I went through the rest of the game, eventually coming to Farum Azula. I didn't know what was up with this place so I looked up some help which sadly spoilered me that Maliketh was the area boss.
    After going through the final golden wall i encountered my friend, hurt and sad of my betrayel. Playing that sad music and his dialogue really got to me and i didn't want to kill him. I thought when I beat him eventually Maliketh shows up to stop us and let Gurranq leave, fighting me instead.
    Then... The halfway point. After he stabbed his seal, the moment i saw that cool black-gold armour i was shouting "No! Don't tell me... My favorite NPC turns into my favorite boss?!"
    He did! He definitely did and it was amazing! He was hard hitting, cool and absolutely relentless! A true beast and that OST... This will always be my favorite moment in Elden Ring because i played it with my girlfriend and i kept Maliketh a secret because i didn't want her to look him up. Even when i read item descriptions i was playing the unknowing. All i revealed was that i know about something called a black blade.
    And that's my story with Gurranq and Maliketh.
    For you still reading. After I revealed everything my girlfriend told me she also has a favorite boss. She doesn't play these games but likes watching me. Her favorite? Well... She loves red, it's her favorite colour, likes Valkyries and loved the lore of said character and felt sad for what happened to her.
    When I finally got to her, well my girlfriend just said "And that is MY favorite boss!"
    Yep, it's Malenia. She definitely is an awesome boss and her spell was a huge help for the rest of the game. Definitely my second favorite! Third would be Godskin because they feel so unique and their OST is a banger!

  • @chillax319
    @chillax319 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Glad to have it confirmed. Though it's weird that you can still finish Gurrang quest after dealing with Maliketh. For once there is a quest that can be logically unfinished and they allowed us to finish it with no problem :D But I assume it makes sense since Farum Azula is not exactly following the chronological order of things with how strange time works there.

  • @jamesm783
    @jamesm783 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    makes me wish there was a quest option where you can like, talk to him, or spare him at the end, promising to fix the golden order as Elden Lord

  • @yari4046
    @yari4046 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    would have been cool of giving him deathroot would make him stronger in the 2nd phase, not much but like as a small detail

    • @TribunalxWarrior
      @TribunalxWarrior 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      just like goku during cell fight with senzu bean lol. imagine your char flicking a deathroot to him "you are going to need this one"

  • @Oncus2
    @Oncus2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I managed to find and give him all Death Roots without the help of a guide, and I knew he would have a changed dialogue. As he started his special monologue I fell into a hole.

  • @kamuymamushi5877
    @kamuymamushi5877 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If the dlc going to be like Artorias dlc with the time travel, are we, the tarnished, actually the one who stole destined death in the first place ?

  • @sansinukob6265
    @sansinukob6265 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    For those who are confused Guranq and maliketh are the same, even if you kill guranq he will resurected, remember if you killed blaid early of the game he will say ""what harm can be done to a shadow"" and spawn again at the same location, they are both shadow so yeah

    • @davidreljac1707
      @davidreljac1707 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You got the idea right, just not the execution. They are, indeed, one and the same. The reason killing one does not affect the other is because Farum Azula, the place Maliketh resides in, exists beyond the boundaries of time. Not because of shadow tomfuckery.

  • @jbak2935
    @jbak2935 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I don't understand, I kill the blackblade but didn't finish Gunraq's quest, so he's still in the beast temple, and very much alive. Are they truly the one and same?

    • @braxinIV
      @braxinIV 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I too can confirm the beast clergyman is still there.

    • @Professor-TripleExtraLarge
      @Professor-TripleExtraLarge 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      They are, Farum Azula has a lot of time shenanigans going on on with it, which is evidenced by the optional battle there.

    • @ericemanuelsson7416
      @ericemanuelsson7416 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They are separate entities that have a connection to each other via the Rune of Death. Since Gurranq's questline is about restoring the Rune of Death via the Deathroot, the voicelines can be explained by a more restored Rune of Death affecting what Maliketh says and knows.

  • @thesugar5832
    @thesugar5832 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like how if the tarnished could just talk all he would have to do is go fight the big slug, he could definitely get rennala to come down and take radagons body back with her to her castle to reform his body while you smack the big slug. All the problems could be solved in all boss fights. Just point melenia to miquella and have her fight mohgn, then they make the new haligtree.

  • @kylebiggles5973
    @kylebiggles5973 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i can’t wait to get far enough into my current player to fight him again