A scene I've been requested to attempt and one I've wanted to do for a while. Portraying the Emperor is quite a hurdle but I think I did the best I currently could with the tools I have! And overall a very interesting scene for the universe as a whole, whilst being emotionally crushing for Guilliman. If you enjoyed please like, comment and subscribe! It means a lot to me. And, my thanks for watching!
Would you do the scene where Vulkan arrives on Terra and makes the climb to the top of the throne with the Talisman of Seven Hammers? I could see it needing to be broken up like Rylanor but I think it would be epic
It might've been a hurdle.. but you pictured it so perfectly for me. I pictured his voice in that way since I've known the verse and actually litening to it was incredible. Thank you for the efforts
The implication later on is that he doesn't have a full and accurate recall of this conversation. Like a million things were imparted to him and he remembers only a part of it.
I mean the Emporer pulls together his scattered psyche to attempt a conversation. Hate and love. Compassion and indifference. Humanity and inhumanity. His father but not his father. However it does appear overall the Emperor does think highly of and love Guilliman.
@@DocLeQuack Even beyond Guilliman's recollection here that the Emperor is fractured and is telling him multiple things, it is implied that what was retained in the immediate moment afterwards was a fraction of what was discussed. Guilliman in a way is a bit of an unreliable narrator in that regard. I assume this is GW's way of pulling something new (lore-wise) out of their hat when they need it.
It’s not just that he can’t fully recall, it’s that every time he does recall the conversation happens anew. That’s what allows the Emperor to posses Guilliman, cure the Godblight and pour righteous fire into the heart of Nurgles Garden. It’s how Mortarian was able to stand before the Emperor too, to witness this exchange and be judged and pitied and longed to be saved and hated all at once. That conversation is happening, has happened and will continue to happen over and over, in every perceivable configuration, for all of eternity. Because he is the God Emperor.
They never really got along during the Great Crusade and Horus heresy. I suspect things won´t be much different in the current setting. However i do think they are both men of logic and both know that doing it alone isn´t an option in the long run. So they will proberbly agree to co-operate to bring their father´s imperium back into a semblance of order. Perhaps they could even do something akin to what their arrangement was in imperium secundus. Where the Lion mainly handles the military aspect of things and Gulliman handles the bureaucratic side of things. Gulliman might be able to bring the waiting down. instead of having to wait 7 lifetimes for a dessicion you now only have to wait 3 maybe 3,5 lifetimes.
@@ErikjustPerhaps you should listen to the video on this channel of when The Lion meets Dante, for Lion’s thoughts on learning Guilliman is about in the galaxy.
He's friends with one of Cawl's blasphemous horde his son decimus of whom he made captain of the non existent 11th chapter of the ultramarines and later tetrarch 😂
That final “Guilliman” at the end is so tragic. It feels like he has so much more to say. The emperor wants to give orders to lead the empire with his son but he just can’t. He has to trust in his Greatest son to finally bring back hope and do what he himself could not. Again 10/10 work you truly are a talent.
Thank you very much! That does mean a lot to me! I really enjoy the nuance in this scene and the multitude of possible interpretations people can garner from it, I am very glad that I can bring some of that meaning across. and, my thanks for watching!
I think “Yesterday’s savior” may be the most heartbreaking but apt description of how G-man feels about the person the emperor used to be upon seeing what little was left of him.
I think there may be more significance to that line about words being of grievous harm. I think G-man may have actually damaged the remnants of the emperor’s mind by making him strain his dwindling willpower and divide his attention in order to speak.
The man's been damaged hes been on the throne for 10k years and the chair is failing within a hundred years. Him straining to tell Roboute anything as a god was gonna do alot.
I get the impression that its the golden throne that is keeping the Emperor trapped and unable to regenerate like a perpetual should. By trying to keep him alive the Emperors servants are preventing him from fully regenerating. To prove it youd have to turn off the throne, which would either be disastrous or let the Emperor fully regenerate
The fact that the Emperor essentially had to use every ounce of his godly psychic strength, just to be able to barely manage to say what amounted to "I'm so sorry. I love you, son." had me genuinely weeping.
Like a father on his deathbed. He has moments left. Can barely do anything. And yet the most important thing he can impart to his son is to simply say “I love you, and you’re my final hope.” Out of everything he could have said to Guilliman, “go out do this” “go kill this” “fix this” instead, he simply says, “you’re my final hope, i love you, son.” And what to think of Mortarion. What did he say to him in that same exact moment? Did he tell Mortarion he loved him too? He forgave him? In those moments of last necessity, did he tell his lost son there was hope? That he could save him from his chains? Did he tell him he was doomed? It is too late for change? That he is to die by Guillimans hands? Or even his own? Did he condemn his son, damn him to eternal suffering? I love this scene so much.
I'm not entirely sure he was saying that, but I certainly think he was trying his best to sound genuine so that Guilliman can go on and do what he has to do.
I don’t read that in the conversation. Remember that Guilliman said the words were conditional. The Emperor was using Guilliman’s love for him to steer him on a path. And worse, Guilliman knew that this is what the Emperor was doing.
@@LM-xw7ii As much as the lore has unwound and rewound itself, I think it's pretty clear that the emperor only came close to viewing one or two of his primarchs as 'sons'. Guilliman's real father was Konor.
@@thetau4866 "Praise the Emperor whose sacrifice is life as ours is death. Hail his name the Master of Humanity." - extract from the Credo Astronomican
What is more unfathomable is the fact that people condition by memes and skewed perspective on Guilliman and Ultramarines put so much weight on words "thief, betrayer, thing" spoken when Emperor was pretty much disjointed and not "son", "last hope" and calling Guilliman by his name, not a number - which Emperor despite all that pain and agony forced himself to impart on Roboute Guilliman in clearest manner he could.
That last "Guiliman" sounded amazing, it almost sounded as if all the fractured pieces of the Emperor's mind he managed to pull together for this conversation were slowly being pulled back apart again and he delves back into his unending suffering for Humanity.
You have to realise. This is what Gulliman heard. But Mortarion was there with him... What did he hear? What did the fallen lord of Barbaros hear, when his father spoke?
That is a question that I have had ever since I listened to the audiobook. Guilliman’s recollection of his conversation with the Emperor is fragmented. No two recollections the same. Plus, as we’ve seen in some of the other books, it is possible to hold a conversation with the Emperor through a vivid enough memory, such as when Horus talked to Him during the Siege through the memory he had of when he sweared fealty to the Emperor.
We don't need to guess because the Emperor did indeed speak to Mortarion, albeit through Guilliman, later on in this series. ‘He speaks to me, brother,’ said Roboute Guilliman. ‘Does He not speak to you?’ - then a little later... ‘You are a traitor,’ Guilliman said, in a voice that was not quite his own. ‘You have brought low all that could have been, but you are as much a victim as a monster, Mortarion. Perhaps one day you might be saved. Until then, you must go back to the master you chose.’
Such a sympathetic reading of the Emperor’s plight. He is powerful and yet so powerless at the same time. Although he is kept alive on the throne he also powers it. He is in a constant cycle of being broken down and remade, always in pain. He has been in that state for ten thousand years, powering the Astronomican and surveying mankind’s plight in the Galaxy, as it is beset by enemies, the worst being the Chaos gods and their daemons. But he cannot leave. It took all of his concentration and might to speak to his son, with the sound of ancient but failing machinery in the background, to his last but brightest hope “Guilliman.”
People say that the emperor didn’t care about his sons. Perhaps that’s the facade he needed to be logical and cold since emotion was what led to the collapse. But it’s evident in spurts that he loves them.
Didn't he have to cast away his love for them before his battle with Horus to avoid becoming the Dark King and to bring himself to fight his own son? It wouldn't help much to cast it away unless it was something significant right?
@@bruh-ux1nsHe didn't cast it away to avoid becoming the Dark King. When He used the warp power He had absorbed to fight Horus in order to look into the future (Ollanius begged Him to do so) He saw that He would become a Chaos God (and kill all of himanity) if He tried to defeat Horus by simply overpowering him. That horrified Him and He relinquished all the strength He had drawn from the warp. But He knew that by doing so He would be forced to confront His now godlike son as a man. He also knew that even if He somehow survived that fight and won He would be too wounded to do anything but regulate the Throne and keep the door closed on the Ruinous Powers for the next tenthousand years. Thus he would be unable to keep the Imperium from turning into the nightmare we now know it as. Casting aside his empathy was the only thing he could think of to counter the effect that fate would have on Him, because He knew, that being forced to witness and tolerate such horror for tenthousand years would drive Him completely insane otherwise.
I have been waiting for you to drop this. Amazing. The Emperor strikes me as a need to protect humanity rather than a culmination of consciousness. The Emperor protects.
It would be amazing to hear your interpretation of guilliman being possessed by the emperor and burning the garden of nurgle from godblight! Absolutely love listening to your readings.
Imo this is the Emperor trying to break through millennia of unfiltered omnipotentence to put into words the complete depth of his despair, horror, resignation, and anger; while fighting it with his immense will with the overwhelming volume of hope and love that counterbalances it into a NEED. Thus why he sees Guilliman as both Son, and tool. I empathise with Guilliman here as this was my feeling when talking to my dying father who needed me - his immature and unprepared son- to take on the burdens of his duties in the family. He was hopeless. Helpless. But needed me to be his tool to complete the works of his life. Whole that was a priority For his personal goals, it was balanced with pride in me, despite not being fully up to the task, and a deep love for me. It's a powerful sequence. Very well written.
I have listened to this more than 50 times. And it is without reservation my absolute favorite reading of any 40k text yet. The emotion. The editing. The music. All are just fucking sublime.
This moment to me signifies that the Emperor is never coming back in a human capacity, but rather as something completely different that will be unfamiliar to all that knew him.
Of all of the tragedy in 40K, the laying bare of the Emperor’s feelings, whether true and coherent, or false and broken, to his favorite son, with the glimmer of hope and the overwhelming shadow of dread, is by far the most heart wrenching and wonderful thing. This Titan amongst giants, an immortal amongst mortals, interred on his throne, held captive by his own immortality, an omniscient being trapped by his own omnipotence. A father, betrayed by his sons. A visionary whose life’s work is in ruin. A man made a god. An emperor with a failing empire. He can do nothing, yet he can do everything. The epitome of mankind. The Emperor has the most tragic tale of all. There is hope for the galaxy, for the imperium, for mankind. But there is no hope for the Emperor.
I don't think many people realize just how much effort it took for the emperor to say those few words to him. He is having to pull his mind together after ten thousand years of holding back chaos, keeping a warp portal closed, running the Astronomican, and having to relive memories of his life all at once, while knowing that people's souls are being burned and consumed by the very machine he sits upon, the number of which only increasing over time, all while he continually dies and is immediately revived by the throne, to keep him from reincarnating as a perpetual. Not to mention how much agony that throne puts him in too. By this point, he's probably suffering from cosmic dementia with a healthy heap of depression on top. So to see him try to pull himself together just to speak to his son like that took an incomprehensible amount of effort. It could be interpreted as him saying Guilliman was just a tool, but he grew to see him as a son, or he still is nothing but a tool. Or it could be a renouncing of his failures. Or it could be a peek into a dying mind. The emperor is still just as human as his subjects. The emperor wasn't the best ruler, or the best person in general. But now, in his "death" he's seemingly realized that fact. If he were to come back, I can practically guarantee he wouldn't be as manipulative or cold.
A fitting fate for an arrogant sociopath whose stupidity and ego led to a galactic wide genocide and creation of the worst government possible. Jimmy Space should have just let sleeping dogs lie.
@@ethanduncan1646You misunderstand the Emperor's dream for Humanity and the galaxy before the great crusade. The great crusade saved the human race and the imperium of 40k isn't what the emperor intended nor is it something he created.
It almost seems as if his long life and countless triumphs made him lose touch with what makes us human. He practically died because if it. And all this time in the warp, alone, confused, tormented by the real and unreal, has made him realise that he failed because he lost his way. And this moment seems to be him passing the torch to his son, hoping he can do what needs be done, while the Emperor helps him from the empyrean.
(The transcript:) He was in the dust of a corpse-king’s court. He was before a resplendent Emperor for all the ages. ‘Father,’ he said, and when he had said that word, it was the last time he had meant it. ‘Father, I have returned.’ Guilliman forced himself to look up into the pillar of light, the screaming of souls, the empty-eyed skull, the impassive god, the old man, yesterday’s saviour. ‘What must I do? Help me, father. Help me save them.’ In the present, in the past, he felt Mortarion’s wordless presence at his side, and felt his fallen brother’s horror. He looked at the Emperor of Mankind, and could not see. Too much, too bright, too powerful. The unreality of the being before him stunned him to the core. A hundred different impressions, all false, all true, raced through his mind. He could not remember what his father had looked like, before, and Roboute Guilliman forgot nothing. And then, that thing, that terrible, awful thing upon the Throne, saw him. ‘My son,’ it said. ‘Thirteen,’ it said. ‘Lord of Ultramar.’ ‘Saviour.’ ‘Hope.’ ‘Failure.’ ‘Disappointment.’ ‘Liar.’ ‘Thief.’ ‘Betrayer.’ ‘Guilliman.’ He heard all these at once. He did not hear them at all. The Emperor spoke and did not speak. The very idea of words seemed ridiculous, the concept of them a grievous harm against the equilibrium of time and being. ‘Roboute Guilliman.’ The raging tempest spoke his name, and it was as the violence a dying sun rains upon its worlds. ‘Guilliman. Guilliman. Guilliman.’ The name echoed down the wind of eternity, never ceasing, never reaching its intended point. The sensation of many minds reached out to Guilliman, violating his senses as they tried to commune, but then one mind seemed to come from the many, a raw, unbounded power, and gave wordless commands to go out and save what they built together. To destroy what they made. To save his brothers, to kill them. Contradictory impulses, all impossible to disobey, all the same, all different. Futures many and terrible raced through his mind, the results of all these things, should he do any, all or none of them. ‘Father!’ he cried. Thoughts battered him. ‘A son.’ ‘Not a son.’ ‘A thing.’ ‘A name.’ ‘Not a name.’ ‘A number. A tool. A product.’ A grand plan in ruins. An ambition unrealised. Information, too much information, coursed through Guilliman: stars and galaxies, entire universes, races older than time, things too terrifying to be real, eroding his being like a storm in full spate carves knife-edged gullies into badlands. ‘Please, father!’ he begged. ‘Father, not a father. Thing, thing, thing,’ the minds said. ‘Apotheosis.’ ‘Victory.’ ‘Defeat.’ ‘Choose,’ it said. ‘Fate.’ ‘Future.’ ‘Past.’ ‘Renewal. Despair. Decay.’ And then, there seemed to be focusing, as of a great will exerting itself, not for the final time, but nearly for the final time. A sense of strength failing. A sense of ending. Far away, he heard arcane machines whine and screech, close to collapse, and the clamour of screams of dying psykers that underpinned everything in that horrific room rising higher in pitch and intensity. ‘Guilliman.’ The voices overlaid, overlapped, became almost one, and Guilliman had a fleeting memory of a sad face that had seen too much, and a burden it could barely countenance. ‘Guilliman, hear me. ‘My last loyal son, my pride, my greatest triumph.’ How those words burned him, worse than the poisons of Mortarion, worse than the sting of failure. They were not a lie, not entirely. It was worse than that. They were conditional. ‘My last tool. My last hope.’ A final drawing in of power, a thought expelled like a dying breath. ‘Guilliman…’
Such a great portrayal of this scene it genuinely brought me to tears that the emperor in all his godly psychic might had to give everything he had just to tell Guilliman to keep his head up and keep going.
@h8tm3 Plenty would if they still could. Get him to send you voice notes if you can, it's a miracle I can still hear my Pa encourage me when I've had a rough day.
They should have installed some sort of device so the emperor can talk and doesn't have to use telepathy, it could be some sort of text to speech device
yea i agree. I really don't think people understand what big E is actually up to. He is saying everything and nothing at the same time. Guilliman is probably hearing what he wants to hear. what he chooses to hear. and its just that simple. I don't think its intended for us to understand what is being said. But besides all that, text to speech is lightyears away from their primitive technology. They could never hope to have that. @@cyclone8974
I have watched this countless times and the way you narrate the Emperor its like every phrase he says “a tool” or “a number” or “betrayer” I believe is their own little piece of his shattered psyche and every time we hear Emps say “Guilliman”, its the true fragment, the one that holds his love trying to speak over all the others, forcing them into submission towards the end when all of the voices say “Guilliman” and they focus, bringing him the memory of his fathers face. That final “Guilliman” was not guilt, but hope…hope for his son, not to enact the “great plan” but for him to know his love for his son was stronger than any hate he could hold. Edit: i mean how the Emperor goes: “father? Not a father! A thing! Thing! THING!” Like a neglectful parent truly understanding the word “Father” and having a breakdown and realizing they’re a monster. Im gunna go cry now…
I think I understand what happened here finally. Guilliman heard mixed messages about being both a son and a tool because he personally struggles with that concept so The Emperor is reflecting that upon him. The Emperor said "Father, not father, thing" because secretly that is part of how Guilliman saw him as he sat dead looking on the throne. I think The Emperor was letting him see he saw the conflict within Guilliman and could read all his thoughts and was making him confront them. At the end he did say he was his last hope and he seemed to still have a lot of faith in him.
I think you did the Emperors voice quite well. It conveyed His presence quite well. Though, if I am honest, the idea in my head is that on the throne it is like a dozen voices spoken at once. Fitting for a burgeoning god.
God, you do great work. This scene is one of my favorites, you really brought it to life. For all that everyone says the Emperor was wrong, I don't know if any of us could order ourselves wired into the only thing that will keep mankind alive, while knowing exactly what will happen.
Yeah the difference between this and the audiobook is night and day; its a pity they didn't get you to do the whole series!Keep up your good work, and Happy Christmas :)@@danielquintonvo
He didn't talk. He psychically launched the emotions and words into Roboutes very soul and nearly killed him with thought alone. He conversed with a God and he had an infinite amount conversations in a moment that stretched across all of time in an infinite slowness.
i choose to believe that a timeline out in space and time there was no heresy and this family torn apart by time and hate wasn't, yeah some of the primarks didn't get along with others but it breaks my heart to hear this and think about what malcador said to magnus, about how each of them had a home at the palace and how each had a role with the emperor. in my mind i see them sitting with Big E and malcador having a family meal at peace and happy. sadly I don't think I will ever see this come to pass.
Speaking as a father myself, I understand why the emperor is being so blunt and cold towards his son. It’s to harden him up for the world and to prepare him for the role of leadership. Basically saying “Stop looking ti me to help you. You’re on your own and you’re only as useful as you allow yourself to be. Don’t be foolish and think love of your people is the same as personal love. You must be ready to make the hard choices now. This is more important that how we feel about each other. I made you for a reason now go out and do what I made you. If you fail then it’s over. I’m not gonna be around much longer and I can’t wait for you to grow up on your own. Be the man the galaxy needs you to be and stop viewing the world in such a childish way. We each have roles to play.” Only a good father will teach his son that lesson. And for all his faults, the emperor is being a good father here. Regardless of intent.
You just said a whole lot that The Emperor didn't say. I see where you're coming from but he didn't say all of that Roblute is a fuckin Primarch and general of 500 planets dude doesn't need to toughen up tf 😂
There is an in-lore explanation for the very reason He is so cold and emotionally detatched. In perperation for His batter against His most-favored son and now arch-traitot, Horus Lupercal, The Emperor split off a fragment of his soul. Had He not done this, then The Emperor would likely have not been able to land the killing blow He upon Horus - instead faltering at the critical moment. This fragment of His soul contained all of his love, hope, empathy and 'humanity'. This fragment was jettisoned deep into space - to coalesce into what is referred to as "The Star Child". The Star Child and the Corpse Emperor are two halves of the same being. It is therorized that THIS is why the 'Coprse Emperor' will not regenerate. Should the two halves ever be reunited - then it is highly likely that the material universe would witness the birth of a 5th Chaos God - The Emperor (for 10k years, He's been drinking from the worship and energy of quadrillions of humans.)
Can ye not see the Emperor’s glorious light when ye close yer eyes, Kindred? Can ye not feel the Emperor’s love engulf ye when listen with yer heart? Edit: Translation for my overly high self: this was so good I had an almost religious experience. In my mind’s eye I could see the emperor’s light and in my core I could feel the weight and power in his words.
“Kitten was supposed to pull your life support. But if you are here I suppose you and your legion of blueberrys you separated out into multiple picnick baskets, can be put to some use.”
I take this as a choice to Guillomon, the Emperor in his infinite knowledge and infinite feeling, knows that humanity is as close to collapse as he is. So his contradictions are the ways it can go, not a prophecy but a warning. There is hope in the Grim Dark, for we must trust
Are all the voices that conflict the ancients that combined to become the emperor long ago? And the unification being the emperor reforming himself from the sun of his parts even but for a moment?
04:50 "'Father, not a Father, thing, thing, thing' the minds said." That part really stood out to me. This sounded like the Emperor decrying the utter maddening horror he's become. All glory, splendour, and humanity lost, his self-loathing really comes through. Great job again.
Maybe what he's trying to say is that none of those matters because those are from the past. Maybe he's trying to tell roboute that what matters is the present and their people.
Well in the End and The Death vol 2. The Emp legit launches his love and humanity off into the warp as he couldn't have those shards of himself if he wanted to fight Horus. Poor guy hopefully finds them
Those are the shards of him contradict each other. Remember Big E is in million pieces right now. That great will that asserted was himself. But from what i understood he couldn't maintain control over his own unlimited psyke. Big E is combations of millions of souls. The voices robot man heard was probably the original shamans that sacrified themselfs in order to create Big E.
This proves there was an emotional connection. The Emperor pulled himself together for nearly the final time, not to impart a command, but to speak his son's name.
@@andrewellisonleeHe means when He called him Guilliman. Pulling together his psyche, even just to speak a _single_ word, is incomprehensibly painful for the Emperor. He exercised what little of his power He had left just to call his son by name.
@@TheCorrodedManand he called him his greatest son. The emperor wanted to impart he trusted his son. I believe g man is wrong in that it eas conditional. The emperor weeps for his lost children.
I think the impression the emperor’s words gave him was that they were equally desperate to ask the other for help. So G was not only not going to get the guidance he came for but was also aware now that the human part of the emperor was as helpless as him when it came to controlling the overwhelming power .
I also believe there is an apology in these words, for the doubt cast on Guilliman during the heresy. Guilliman stayed true and has died for the cause, twice. He is The Avenging Son.
I really wish GW would just make a alternate Canon where The Emperor gets his perfect playthrough collects all 20/21 primarchs and his plans actually go off without a hitch.
I can imagine a story where the Great Crusade comes to a close with extreme fan fare across the entire imperium, actual thriving populations and now the fight turns to the true enemy, chaos. The Emperor gathers all 20 of this Sons in to the Palace and fully reveals to them the nature of the warp, what it holds and the dangers it causes. - Cut to a full scale mobilization of the Empire, every forge world going at full blast, each legion ranking in the hundreds of thousands. And in full lock step they some how cleanse the warp. And then the tyranids eat everything and the Emperor jolts awake from a nap on Terra and it was all a dream.
That final "Guilliman" feels like the Emperor on his deathbed, reaching out his hand to console his son, letting him know one last time that he believes in him. One word with infinite weight, you captured the moment perfectly.
Mortarion was right about one thing. His father is dead. The Emperor is not the same person he was during the crusade. There may be love there still... but millennia of suffering on an unimaginable scale would erode everything from you. Strip you to your barest nature and take even that away. The Emperor fights because that's all he can do. He can't even die.
A machine once of preservation turned to one of eternal torture, keeping keeping alive something which was meant to die long, long ago. Not unlike the Imperium itself.
This is explained in further detail in the Siege of Terra. I strongly encourage everyone read the terrible choice the emperor had to make to defeat Horus at the end of the series. Truly riveting storytelling from Dan Abnett and crew
Malcador also gave a final speech on how absolutely fuked the Emperor was gonna be and how the Primarchs didn't really realize what they were doing but they also had no choice
@@mogim815its been retconned i think, golden throne isnt keeping emperor alive in fact i think if he wasnt on the golden throne he would have recovered by now. Emperor is alive because of his own power and the golden throne needs massive amount of it to protect humanity, if emperor ever gets off the throne he might recover but humanity is doomed. Also thing to note good part of the emperor was cut out before fight with horus so its still out there somewhere, so there is still hope for emperor to come back from this. Not that it will ever happen as 40k is gonna get milked forever
The effort of The Emperor rending his fragmented soul and psyche back together just to communicate this small amount is completely unfathomable. Hundreds of psychers being turned to ash while the golden throne does whatever the hell it does all while this godlike being is in a state between life and death pulling together his consciousness. For 10,000 years he has been interred upon the golden throne. I can’t imagine what that what do to someone’s mind.
The fact he has a mind at all is pretty crazy. Malcador was still logical after his body was gone but he also could no longer feel the pain. He was ash and so had no body to feel and only existed through a sigil. The Emperors body is still there and sure the pain for a day he could take or even a thousand days but 10,000 years of it? Idk if he even exists at that point
"Is he gone... Finally. About fucking time. Dorn, you can come out of your box fort now, he's gone. I swear to fucking god, the chanting in my head was deafening. I was about to lose my hearing, and my eardrums rotted away millennia ago." "You cannot lose your hearing twice, father." "How un-fucking-fortunate. God damn it Rogal. Go back in your box fort." "No."
I still like to believe that the emperor cares about his sons, he's just so mixed and not right in the head right now that you wont know what he really feels
He is the god emperor. A true living God. He sees the duality of everything due to the wide perspective of humanity and the universe that he has and unlike us or even primarchs who lack that perspective, he accepts it all as what is and leaves the effects of “love” and other emotions that seek to color everything we perceive to us mortals. In a sense he has transcended far beyond humanity and it’s biological/emotional trappings. “A father, not a father.” Both are true but only he can truly see that. The God emperor can be said to be a Buddhist deity.
Actually it's more that he's no longer able to feel those emotions. It was revealed in The End and The Death Vol. 2 that before going to face Horus, the Emperor separated and cast off the part of his soul containing among other things his love and compassion so that he would be able to fight and kill Hours, and so that he could endure what would follow afterward.
I think its possible he loves them, but he needs Guilliman to feel that way so he will go and fix the Imperium out of spite and such. Then again, its hard to express love and such when you literally threw your compassion into another dimension, and you're a bunch of shamans coming unglued in pure agony.
The fate of the Emperor is such a horrific tragedy to try to comprehend. Under all his godlike power he's still just a man. He has human emotions and human depth and human contradictions. He can't decide whether Guilliman is his final living son, his last connection to his own humanity, or just the last tool in his belt to try to reclaim what was lost. A champion for his vision or a broken failure like all his traitor primarchs. The broken mind of a man physically trapped in a rotting body by his own power. A mortal being with an immortal soul forced to carry the responsibility of a god. I almost break down trying to wrap my head around it.
Very well worded. I had the impression that over the last 10k years, he became more and more a being of the warp. With all that that entails, great power yes, but borne of a place no soul should consciously be subjected to. It is incomprehensible to us, and he has endured it for so long that he's become part of it, sowed into it. He suffers greatly because of what it does to him while also trying to use the power his people give him to protect them and save them. Maybe he sees nothing, adrift in the warp, lost and surrounded by the impossible and his waking dreams of helping people are those moments we see his miracles.
@domenikschmitz334 No he doesn't. At no point during his living life did the emperor see his sons as anything other than a tool to be used and discarded.
You did such an amazing job. People usually overembellish the emperors voice, trying to make him sound godly. But I've always imagined it like this. The voice of an old soul. Wise and calm, but at the same time tired and weary of carrying the weight of humankind itself on his shoulders.
Thank you very much! That means a lot. I was rather intimidated by attempting to portray the Emperor, with how large of a character he is so that is wonderful to hear. and, my many thanks for watching!
@@danielquintonvo yeah I have to agree your voiceover for the emperor is perfect. Sounds like someone who has gone mad after 10,000 years of being on life support but is too god damn powerful for someone to pull the plug. Kinda reminds me of Optimus Prime if he went insane
DAMN! Your voice as the Emperor is great! Powerful and accusing, and then tired and sad. Truly emphasizes what has happened to the Emperor in the 10k years he has been interred unto the Throne.
Thank you greatly! It was a rather large task to take on a recording with the Emperor in it! I am pleased to know it worked out well. My thanks for watching!
It seemed as if he was seeing and knowing millions of possible timelines, some where Guilliman may have taken to the side of Horus, others where he stayed true, becam neutral, was killed, etc...
As beautiful as this scene is, part of me wishes we also got Mortarion's POV of seeing Emps and realising just how mighty Emps is and what he destroyed by betraying the Imperium
You have to realise. This is what Gulliman heard. But Mortarion was there with him... What did he hear? What did the fallen lord of Barbaros hear, when his father spoke? Was he called the 14th? Was he called a betrayer? A double agent?
@@BananenbaumEY I think it would start like that, but then Morty would see the true might of the Emperor. He would see the reason the Chaos Gods call him the Anathema. But then the power would fade, and he'd see the broken corpse again. But now he'd know what that corpse was hiding, and what it's death means for humanity and the warp
I can’t imagine what it must be like for the both of them. For Guilliman to have such a crushing emotional moment like that and for the emperor to be suffering in perpetual pain stuck on the throne for 10,000 years because of the betrayal of his own creation, his own son, and for him to put in so much effort just to barely be able to speak coherently with the only son that hasn’t either betrayed him, gone MIA, or are KIA.
It's as if the Emperor is battling through some great and terrible cosmic dementia, wrought by his overwhelming power; Trying to speak to Roboute through an ocean of minds and possibilities, and hoping that Guilliman can make sense of his words.
5:55 that is *perfection*. The tone, the music, the warped voice implying the terrible effort it takes for this lost, doomed man to collect enough of himself to speak the name.
Give The Emperor a bit of a break, for over 10,000 years he's fought chaos, power the astronomican, and part knowledge on key individuals. All this while his body decays and his mind shattered to the point that there's no way to tell which one is truely him.
If you’ve read the last heresy book , I think it’s just the two aspects of the emperor from when he split to fight Horus. I take it as the god emperor is a fragmented mind but when he is needed most the fragment with his humanity comes out. No matter what people say the emperor loved his sons(creations), theres a scene where he’s trying to fix angron and you can see that killing angron would have been the expedient choice but he couldn’t do it, for the slight chance he could be saved. Creations or sons it doesn’t matter, he made them to him they are the same. What king wouldn’t see his son as a tool , it doesn’t mean he doesn’t care for them. I love the scene where he suggests even mortarion could be saved and how in the last book they even say the emperor knew if he killed Horus he’d have been broken anyway and would have followed a path to damnation.
slight chance he could be saved? if you are talking about his surgery scene that's absolutely not what he kept angron around and you know it he saw angron as a useful tool and weapon, something which could still fight and conquer, he didn't have empathy for Angron, he used Angron
@@nicholasbrown668 The Emperor has zero interest of his planets to be ruins, graveyards. He needs prosperity, unity and resources to fuel his crusade to unite humanity. Angron did the opposite. He was a mad dog that butchered the innocent and ruined his whole Legion. The Emperor did try to cure Angron but in doing so it would kill him. He loved his son, in a way, but didn't really showed it. Also the Emperor created his sons to be administrators, not butchers. Angron had healing powers if i recall correctly. His purpose was the exact opposite of what he became. He was broken but still he was his son. What about Lorgar? The Emperor warned him multiple times for decades but Lorgar ignored him. His father had enough and punished him by razing Monarchia but not before evacuating the population. Again, the Emperor wants to avoid needless death. Angron was to be the healer, Konrad the Judge, Perturabo the builder etc.etc. all progressive roles for his Empire but fate had other plans. Sorry but the Emperor loved his sons, he had A LOT of patience and trust and in the end that was his undoing.
@@Shadowhunterbg your comment would make sense if the Emperor didn't rationalize keeping Angron alive specifically because of his ruthlessness and effectiveness and even told Arkan Land that the Emperor didn't care about his sons also you mean the evacuation that also came with purges of the population? that evacuation? and the Emperor who openly allowed one of his sons to brutally torture people? you say he cares about human life? the evacuation where Ultramarines killed anyone who refused to evacuate? the evacuation where Ultramarines literally told a woman "move or I will kill you with the heathen words still in your mouth"?
@@nicholasbrown668 You're hanging on to one version of The Emperor written by one author, who deliberately made him ambigous by having different people see different aspects of him. So you're not even using the full interpretation. He is a millenia old godlike being and his sons are likewise immortal demigods, they're not ging to play catch or get tucked in (incidentaly, this is exactly what he did do with Horus, the son he got to raise, instead of brainwashing him into mindless servitude). Seriously, the whole argument falls apart the moment you ask "Why didn't he just use his godlike powers and super space tech to brainwash all the primarchs into mindless servitude, why did he let them keep their free will and humanity?". No answer. Every retcon to make him more callous opened a billion plot holes and made the story dumber because surprisingly a lot of the story hinged on the guy who willingly endures millennia of the worst torture imaginable for the sake of his species being kind of capable of love and humanity.
god damn! I've heard many versions of the God Emperor speaking, but this does give me chills. It fits his current state so perfectly, the amount of souls and power coursing through him. Fantastic job once again!
I love this scene because, even though G-man comes away feeling cold, I can’t help but feel this is, partially, a genuine display of affection from The Emperor. I mean, he hasn’t done this in ten thousand years. He’s spoken through people by giving them visions and what have you, but he’s never committed to the massive force of will necessary to actually speak with anyone. Until his son came back. That’s kinda beautiful I think.
The emotion you put into Guilliman's voice is exceptional, like you're truly pouring some part of yourself into the role. He sounds like a stoic demigod brought close to tears. Really excellent work.
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A scene I've been requested to attempt and one I've wanted to do for a while.
Portraying the Emperor is quite a hurdle but I think I did the best I currently could with the tools I have!
And overall a very interesting scene for the universe as a whole, whilst being emotionally crushing for Guilliman.
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Would you do the scene where Vulkan arrives on Terra and makes the climb to the top of the throne with the Talisman of Seven Hammers?
I could see it needing to be broken up like Rylanor but I think it would be epic
It might've been a hurdle.. but you pictured it so perfectly for me. I pictured his voice in that way since I've known the verse and actually litening to it was incredible.
Thank you for the efforts
This is beautiful
Great job!
The implication later on is that he doesn't have a full and accurate recall of this conversation. Like a million things were imparted to him and he remembers only a part of it.
I mean the Emporer pulls together his scattered psyche to attempt a conversation. Hate and love. Compassion and indifference. Humanity and inhumanity. His father but not his father. However it does appear overall the Emperor does think highly of and love Guilliman.
@@DocLeQuack Even beyond Guilliman's recollection here that the Emperor is fractured and is telling him multiple things, it is implied that what was retained in the immediate moment afterwards was a fraction of what was discussed. Guilliman in a way is a bit of an unreliable narrator in that regard. I assume this is GW's way of pulling something new (lore-wise) out of their hat when they need it.
@@RichardStrong86 Oh yes they will drop feed the fuck out of this conversation.
It's like that time I did DMT.
It’s not just that he can’t fully recall, it’s that every time he does recall the conversation happens anew.
That’s what allows the Emperor to posses Guilliman, cure the Godblight and pour righteous fire into the heart of Nurgles Garden.
It’s how Mortarian was able to stand before the Emperor too, to witness this exchange and be judged and pitied and longed to be saved and hated all at once. That conversation is happening, has happened and will continue to happen over and over, in every perceivable configuration, for all of eternity.
Because he is the God Emperor.
I hurt for Guilliman, he is so lonely. I can’t wait for the reunion with the Lion.
That shall be a great moment! Hopefully I can be there to record and upload it when it happens.
My thanks for watching!
They never really got along during the Great Crusade and Horus heresy.
I suspect things won´t be much different in the current setting.
However i do think they are both men of logic and both know that doing it alone isn´t an option in the long run.
So they will proberbly agree to co-operate to bring their father´s imperium back into a semblance of order.
Perhaps they could even do something akin to what their arrangement was in imperium secundus.
Where the Lion mainly handles the military aspect of things and Gulliman handles the bureaucratic side of things.
Gulliman might be able to bring the waiting down.
instead of having to wait 7 lifetimes for a dessicion you now only have to wait 3 maybe 3,5 lifetimes.
@@ErikjustPerhaps you should listen to the video on this channel of when The Lion meets Dante, for Lion’s thoughts on learning Guilliman is about in the galaxy.
Or when both of them meet Vulcan hopefully
He's friends with one of Cawl's blasphemous horde his son decimus of whom he made captain of the non existent 11th chapter of the ultramarines and later tetrarch 😂
That final “Guilliman” at the end is so tragic. It feels like he has so much more to say. The emperor wants to give orders to lead the empire with his son but he just can’t. He has to trust in his Greatest son to finally bring back hope and do what he himself could not. Again 10/10 work you truly are a talent.
Thank you very much! That does mean a lot to me! I really enjoy the nuance in this scene and the multitude of possible interpretations people can garner from it, I am very glad that I can bring some of that meaning across.
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I heard it too
It was forlorn in tone
Lol greatest by what metric
@@jubelu3347 Greatest at being alive and present, for starters.
@@DukeOnkled lion are both and better
I think “Yesterday’s savior” may be the most heartbreaking but apt description of how G-man feels about the person the emperor used to be upon seeing what little was left of him.
I think there may be more significance to that line about words being of grievous harm. I think G-man may have actually damaged the remnants of the emperor’s mind by making him strain his dwindling willpower and divide his attention in order to speak.
Ohhh . It hits hard.
The man's been damaged hes been on the throne for 10k years and the chair is failing within a hundred years. Him straining to tell Roboute anything as a god was gonna do alot.
G man? Doctor freeman..
I get the impression that its the golden throne that is keeping the Emperor trapped and unable to regenerate like a perpetual should. By trying to keep him alive the Emperors servants are preventing him from fully regenerating. To prove it youd have to turn off the throne, which would either be disastrous or let the Emperor fully regenerate
The fact that the Emperor essentially had to use every ounce of his godly psychic strength, just to be able to barely manage to say what amounted to "I'm so sorry. I love you, son." had me genuinely weeping.
Like a father on his deathbed.
He has moments left. Can barely do anything. And yet the most important thing he can impart to his son is to simply say “I love you, and you’re my final hope.” Out of everything he could have said to Guilliman, “go out do this” “go kill this” “fix this” instead, he simply says, “you’re my final hope, i love you, son.”
And what to think of Mortarion. What did he say to him in that same exact moment? Did he tell Mortarion he loved him too? He forgave him? In those moments of last necessity, did he tell his lost son there was hope? That he could save him from his chains? Did he tell him he was doomed? It is too late for change? That he is to die by Guillimans hands? Or even his own? Did he condemn his son, damn him to eternal suffering?
I love this scene so much.
I'm not entirely sure he was saying that, but I certainly think he was trying his best to sound genuine so that Guilliman can go on and do what he has to do.
I don’t read that in the conversation. Remember that Guilliman said the words were conditional.
The Emperor was using Guilliman’s love for him to steer him on a path. And worse, Guilliman knew that this is what the Emperor was doing.
Yeah, except no, that's not at all what he said.
@@LM-xw7ii As much as the lore has unwound and rewound itself, I think it's pretty clear that the emperor only came close to viewing one or two of his primarchs as 'sons'. Guilliman's real father was Konor.
The amount of effort it took for Emps to pull himself together to speak those few coherent words is truly unfathomable.
Yeah, the dude is basically a galactic consciousness made of agony. Talking to a person for him must be like threading a needle drunk in a hurricane.
@lumburgapalooza and yet, as a great man, he managed to do it.
@@thetau4866
"Praise the Emperor whose sacrifice is life as ours is death. Hail his name the Master of Humanity."
- extract from the Credo Astronomican
@lumburgapalooza It's kinda scary how people can worship something they know doesn't exist but just the idea of it is enough to believe in it.
What is more unfathomable is the fact that people condition by memes and skewed perspective on Guilliman and Ultramarines put so much weight on words "thief, betrayer, thing" spoken when Emperor was pretty much disjointed and not "son", "last hope" and calling Guilliman by his name, not a number - which Emperor despite all that pain and agony forced himself to impart on Roboute Guilliman in clearest manner he could.
That last "Guiliman" sounded amazing, it almost sounded as if all the fractured pieces of the Emperor's mind he managed to pull together for this conversation were slowly being pulled back apart again and he delves back into his unending suffering for Humanity.
You have to realise.
This is what Gulliman heard.
But Mortarion was there with him...
What did he hear?
What did the fallen lord of Barbaros hear, when his father spoke?
That is a question that I have had ever since I listened to the audiobook. Guilliman’s recollection of his conversation with the Emperor is fragmented. No two recollections the same. Plus, as we’ve seen in some of the other books, it is possible to hold a conversation with the Emperor through a vivid enough memory, such as when Horus talked to Him during the Siege through the memory he had of when he sweared fealty to the Emperor.
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"Mortarion" He said
"14th" He said
...
We don't need to guess because the Emperor did indeed speak to Mortarion, albeit through Guilliman, later on in this series.
‘He speaks to me, brother,’ said Roboute Guilliman. ‘Does He not speak to you?’
- then a little later...
‘You are a traitor,’ Guilliman said, in a voice that was not quite his own. ‘You have brought low all that could have been, but you are as much a victim as a monster, Mortarion. Perhaps one day you might be saved. Until then, you must go back to the master you chose.’
Mortarion was not in the throne room with Guilliman
@@maxstr the book literally says he was. Via the memory.
Such a sympathetic reading of the Emperor’s plight. He is powerful and yet so powerless at the same time. Although he is kept alive on the throne he also powers it. He is in a constant cycle of being broken down and remade, always in pain. He has been in that state for ten thousand years, powering the Astronomican and surveying mankind’s plight in the Galaxy, as it is beset by enemies, the worst being the Chaos gods and their daemons. But he cannot leave. It took all of his concentration and might to speak to his son, with the sound of ancient but failing machinery in the background, to his last but brightest hope “Guilliman.”
while The Great Devourer is creeping closer and closer hidden in the shadow in the Warp.
Why cant they just.... swap power sources for the chair, or at least the parts that regenerate him
People say that the emperor didn’t care about his sons. Perhaps that’s the facade he needed to be logical and cold since emotion was what led to the collapse. But it’s evident in spurts that he loves them.
I've always wanted to see such a wholesome family moment between him and all his sons. Alas, that will never happen!
Didn't he have to cast away his love for them before his battle with Horus to avoid becoming the Dark King and to bring himself to fight his own son? It wouldn't help much to cast it away unless it was something significant right?
@@bruh-ux1nsHe didn't cast it away to avoid becoming the Dark King.
When He used the warp power He had absorbed to fight Horus in order to look into the future (Ollanius begged Him to do so) He saw that He would become a Chaos God (and kill all of himanity) if He tried to defeat Horus by simply overpowering him.
That horrified Him and He relinquished all the strength He had drawn from the warp. But He knew that by doing so He would be forced to confront His now godlike son as a man. He also knew that even if He somehow survived that fight and won He would be too wounded to do anything but regulate the Throne and keep the door closed on the Ruinous Powers for the next tenthousand years.
Thus he would be unable to keep the Imperium from turning into the nightmare we now know it as.
Casting aside his empathy was the only thing he could think of to counter the effect that fate would have on Him, because He knew, that being forced to witness and tolerate such horror for tenthousand years would drive Him completely insane otherwise.
I am crying, like this is really his last words and left us. i still can't beleive to this
I think what guilliman feels is kinda same as adult whos parent has lost memory of them
I have been waiting for you to drop this. Amazing. The Emperor strikes me as a need to protect humanity rather than a culmination of consciousness. The Emperor protects.
Thank you very much!
It would be amazing to hear your interpretation of guilliman being possessed by the emperor and burning the garden of nurgle from godblight! Absolutely love listening to your readings.
It is on the list, I shall certainly be uploading that at some point!
and my thanks for watching!
Imo this is the Emperor trying to break through millennia of unfiltered omnipotentence to put into words the complete depth of his despair, horror, resignation, and anger; while fighting it with his immense will with the overwhelming volume of hope and love that counterbalances it into a NEED.
Thus why he sees Guilliman as both Son, and tool.
I empathise with Guilliman here as this was my feeling when talking to my dying father who needed me - his immature and unprepared son- to take on the burdens of his duties in the family.
He was hopeless.
Helpless.
But needed me to be his tool to complete the works of his life.
Whole that was a priority
For his personal goals, it was balanced with pride in me, despite not being fully up to the task, and a deep love for me.
It's a powerful sequence.
Very well written.
Wow now that we know he cast off the best parts of his soul this means alot more
I have listened to this more than 50 times. And it is without reservation my absolute favorite reading of any 40k text yet.
The emotion. The editing. The music. All are just fucking sublime.
Only 40K can make me feel for a giant psychic skeleton on a gold-plated throne. And DQVO brought it to life enough for me to shed tears.
This moment to me signifies that the Emperor is never coming back in a human capacity, but rather as something completely different that will be unfamiliar to all that knew him.
Of all of the tragedy in 40K, the laying bare of the Emperor’s feelings, whether true and coherent, or false and broken, to his favorite son, with the glimmer of hope and the overwhelming shadow of dread, is by far the most heart wrenching and wonderful thing. This Titan amongst giants, an immortal amongst mortals, interred on his throne, held captive by his own immortality, an omniscient being trapped by his own omnipotence. A father, betrayed by his sons. A visionary whose life’s work is in ruin. A man made a god. An emperor with a failing empire. He can do nothing, yet he can do everything. The epitome of mankind. The Emperor has the most tragic tale of all. There is hope for the galaxy, for the imperium, for mankind. But there is no hope for the Emperor.
I don't think many people realize just how much effort it took for the emperor to say those few words to him.
He is having to pull his mind together after ten thousand years of holding back chaos, keeping a warp portal closed, running the Astronomican, and having to relive memories of his life all at once, while knowing that people's souls are being burned and consumed by the very machine he sits upon, the number of which only increasing over time, all while he continually dies and is immediately revived by the throne, to keep him from reincarnating as a perpetual. Not to mention how much agony that throne puts him in too.
By this point, he's probably suffering from cosmic dementia with a healthy heap of depression on top.
So to see him try to pull himself together just to speak to his son like that took an incomprehensible amount of effort. It could be interpreted as him saying Guilliman was just a tool, but he grew to see him as a son, or he still is nothing but a tool. Or it could be a renouncing of his failures.
Or it could be a peek into a dying mind. The emperor is still just as human as his subjects.
The emperor wasn't the best ruler, or the best person in general. But now, in his "death" he's seemingly realized that fact. If he were to come back, I can practically guarantee he wouldn't be as manipulative or cold.
A fitting fate for an arrogant sociopath whose stupidity and ego led to a galactic wide genocide and creation of the worst government possible. Jimmy Space should have just let sleeping dogs lie.
@@ethanduncan1646You misunderstand the Emperor's dream for Humanity and the galaxy before the great crusade. The great crusade saved the human race and the imperium of 40k isn't what the emperor intended nor is it something he created.
It almost seems as if his long life and countless triumphs made him lose touch with what makes us human. He practically died because if it. And all this time in the warp, alone, confused, tormented by the real and unreal, has made him realise that he failed because he lost his way. And this moment seems to be him passing the torch to his son, hoping he can do what needs be done, while the Emperor helps him from the empyrean.
(The transcript:)
He was in the dust of a corpse-king’s court. He was before a resplendent Emperor for all the ages.
‘Father,’ he said, and when he had said that word, it was the last time he had meant it. ‘Father, I have returned.’ Guilliman forced himself to look up into the pillar of light, the screaming of souls, the empty-eyed skull, the impassive god, the old man, yesterday’s saviour. ‘What must I do? Help me, father. Help me save them.’
In the present, in the past, he felt Mortarion’s wordless presence at his side, and felt his fallen brother’s horror.
He looked at the Emperor of Mankind, and could not see. Too much, too bright, too powerful. The unreality of the being before him stunned him to the core. A hundred different impressions, all false, all true, raced through his mind.
He could not remember what his father had looked like, before, and Roboute Guilliman forgot nothing.
And then, that thing, that terrible, awful thing upon the Throne, saw him.
‘My son,’ it said.
‘Thirteen,’ it said.
‘Lord of Ultramar.’
‘Saviour.’
‘Hope.’
‘Failure.’
‘Disappointment.’
‘Liar.’
‘Thief.’
‘Betrayer.’
‘Guilliman.’
He heard all these at once. He did not hear them at all. The Emperor spoke and did not speak. The very idea of words seemed ridiculous, the concept of them a grievous harm against the equilibrium of time and being.
‘Roboute Guilliman.’ The raging tempest spoke his name, and it was as the violence a dying sun rains upon its worlds. ‘Guilliman. Guilliman. Guilliman.’
The name echoed down the wind of eternity, never ceasing, never reaching its intended point. The sensation of many minds reached out to Guilliman, violating his senses as they tried to commune, but then one mind seemed to come from the many, a raw, unbounded power, and gave wordless commands to go out and save what they built together. To destroy what they made. To save his brothers, to kill them. Contradictory impulses, all impossible to disobey, all the same, all different.
Futures many and terrible raced through his mind, the results of all these things, should he do any, all or none of them.
‘Father!’ he cried.
Thoughts battered him.
‘A son.’
‘Not a son.’
‘A thing.’
‘A name.’
‘Not a name.’
‘A number. A tool. A product.’
A grand plan in ruins. An ambition unrealised. Information, too much information, coursed through Guilliman: stars and galaxies, entire universes, races older than time, things too terrifying to be real, eroding his being like a storm in full spate carves knife-edged gullies into badlands.
‘Please, father!’ he begged.
‘Father, not a father. Thing, thing, thing,’ the minds said.
‘Apotheosis.’
‘Victory.’
‘Defeat.’
‘Choose,’ it said.
‘Fate.’
‘Future.’
‘Past.’
‘Renewal. Despair. Decay.’
And then, there seemed to be focusing, as of a great will exerting itself, not for the final time, but nearly for the final time. A sense of strength failing. A sense of ending. Far away, he heard arcane machines whine and screech, close to collapse, and the clamour of screams of dying psykers that underpinned everything in that horrific room rising higher in pitch and intensity.
‘Guilliman.’ The voices overlaid, overlapped, became almost one, and Guilliman had a fleeting memory of a sad face that had seen too much, and a burden it could barely countenance. ‘Guilliman, hear me.
‘My last loyal son, my pride, my greatest triumph.’
How those words burned him, worse than the poisons of Mortarion, worse than the sting of failure. They were not a lie, not entirely. It was worse than that.
They were conditional.
‘My last tool. My last hope.’
A final drawing in of power, a thought expelled like a dying breath.
‘Guilliman…’
Such a great portrayal of this scene it genuinely brought me to tears that the emperor in all his godly psychic might had to give everything he had just to tell Guilliman to keep his head up and keep going.
This made me want to call my dad.
It made me remember my dad.
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@h8tm3
Plenty would if they still could.
Get him to send you voice notes if you can, it's a miracle I can still hear my Pa encourage me when I've had a rough day.
They should have installed some sort of device so the emperor can talk and doesn't have to use telepathy, it could be some sort of text to speech device
Too bad that the stc for that wasnt found
What? That’s not in the warhammer universe
It wouldn't work since words don't do justice to the ideas being pushed into Guilliman's mind.
@@vengeance8924 cause it's a dumb idea. Good for memes but little else.
yea i agree. I really don't think people understand what big E is actually up to. He is saying everything and nothing at the same time. Guilliman is probably hearing what he wants to hear. what he chooses to hear. and its just that simple. I don't think its intended for us to understand what is being said. But besides all that, text to speech is lightyears away from their primitive technology. They could never hope to have that.
@@cyclone8974
I have watched this countless times and the way you narrate the Emperor its like every phrase he says “a tool” or “a number” or “betrayer” I believe is their own little piece of his shattered psyche and every time we hear Emps say “Guilliman”, its the true fragment, the one that holds his love trying to speak over all the others, forcing them into submission towards the end when all of the voices say “Guilliman” and they focus, bringing him the memory of his fathers face. That final “Guilliman” was not guilt, but hope…hope for his son, not to enact the “great plan” but for him to know his love for his son was stronger than any hate he could hold.
Edit: i mean how the Emperor goes: “father? Not a father! A thing! Thing! THING!” Like a neglectful parent truly understanding the word “Father” and having a breakdown and realizing they’re a monster.
Im gunna go cry now…
You did such an amazing job with this one. As many as you have done, as great as they are, this shines among them. Thank you.
My many thanks! That means a lot
"thing, thing, thing...." He hates himself so much dude its heartbreaking.
This is when you are saying goodbye to a loved one, knowing you will never see him/her alive again.
I think I understand what happened here finally. Guilliman heard mixed messages about being both a son and a tool because he personally struggles with that concept so The Emperor is reflecting that upon him. The Emperor said "Father, not father, thing" because secretly that is part of how Guilliman saw him as he sat dead looking on the throne. I think The Emperor was letting him see he saw the conflict within Guilliman and could read all his thoughts and was making him confront them. At the end he did say he was his last hope and he seemed to still have a lot of faith in him.
This is an amazing work of art
My many thanks!
@danielquintonvo Thank you for bringing us this content. You did An amazing job and I appreciate you.
Big E taking action and meeting both Gullimen and Lion is great to see a comeback is at hand and Chaos is scared 👀👀
I think you did the Emperors voice quite well. It conveyed His presence quite well. Though, if I am honest, the idea in my head is that on the throne it is like a dozen voices spoken at once. Fitting for a burgeoning god.
God, you do great work. This scene is one of my favorites, you really brought it to life. For all that everyone says the Emperor was wrong, I don't know if any of us could order ourselves wired into the only thing that will keep mankind alive, while knowing exactly what will happen.
The best thing ive seen on TH-cam in a while.
My many thanks!
How every version of the emperor is juxtaposed upon itself is great writing. The same for how he sees every version of how the emperor sees him.
“My son- not my son- a tool- a product…”
Fr though I do think the Emperor’s feeling regarding the primarchs became way more complex over time.
Amazing work.
Glory to the Emperor, and the Imperium of Mankind.
My thanks!
Yeah the difference between this and the audiobook is night and day; its a pity they didn't get you to do the whole series!Keep up your good work, and Happy Christmas :)@@danielquintonvo
I never heard him talk before. At his size you think his voice booms through the room.
He didn't talk. He psychically launched the emotions and words into Roboutes very soul and nearly killed him with thought alone. He conversed with a God and he had an infinite amount conversations in a moment that stretched across all of time in an infinite slowness.
I hope that the emperor revives properly one day and give his son a big back breaking hug lol
I think The Emperor was talking to Motorion too! i think This was the cause of the contradictions.
Wow this is phenomenal bro- great voice acting
Ok I’m sold. I officially love you content
"...My father is not a god worth worshipping."
i choose to believe that a timeline out in space and time there was no heresy and this family torn apart by time and hate wasn't, yeah some of the primarks didn't get along with others but it breaks my heart to hear this and think about what malcador said to magnus, about how each of them had a home at the palace and how each had a role with the emperor. in my mind i see them sitting with Big E and malcador having a family meal at peace and happy. sadly I don't think I will ever see this come to pass.
Wow.... stumbled on this video. I gotta say man ,this was perfectly executed
Just brilliant
My many thanks!
Chills....... Chills....
Speaking as a father myself, I understand why the emperor is being so blunt and cold towards his son. It’s to harden him up for the world and to prepare him for the role of leadership. Basically saying “Stop looking ti me to help you. You’re on your own and you’re only as useful as you allow yourself to be. Don’t be foolish and think love of your people is the same as personal love. You must be ready to make the hard choices now. This is more important that how we feel about each other. I made you for a reason now go out and do what I made you. If you fail then it’s over. I’m not gonna be around much longer and I can’t wait for you to grow up on your own. Be the man the galaxy needs you to be and stop viewing the world in such a childish way. We each have roles to play.”
Only a good father will teach his son that lesson. And for all his faults, the emperor is being a good father here. Regardless of intent.
You just said a whole lot that The Emperor didn't say. I see where you're coming from but he didn't say all of that
Roblute is a fuckin Primarch and general of 500 planets dude doesn't need to toughen up tf 😂
@@maltheri9833 You’re not a father are you? And apparently you don’t get the subtext of the conversation.
There is an in-lore explanation for the very reason He is so cold and emotionally detatched.
In perperation for His batter against His most-favored son and now arch-traitot, Horus Lupercal, The Emperor split off a fragment of his soul. Had He not done this, then The Emperor would likely have not been able to land the killing blow He upon Horus - instead faltering at the critical moment. This fragment of His soul contained all of his love, hope, empathy and 'humanity'. This fragment was jettisoned deep into space - to coalesce into what is referred to as "The Star Child".
The Star Child and the Corpse Emperor are two halves of the same being. It is therorized that THIS is why the 'Coprse Emperor' will not regenerate. Should the two halves ever be reunited - then it is highly likely that the material universe would witness the birth of a 5th Chaos God - The Emperor (for 10k years, He's been drinking from the worship and energy of quadrillions of humans.)
@@VeryDeathlyShinynailed it. How can he behave like a “human” when he got rid of his humanity to do what he had to do.
This was a great time
My thanks!
I like this conversation
Unreliable narrator retelling conversation with an unreliable speaker
And of course amazing reading and audio
Great job
Why does this bring me nearly to tears?
Because it so closely resembles the human experience of mortality
Can ye not see the Emperor’s glorious light when ye close yer eyes, Kindred? Can ye not feel the Emperor’s love engulf ye when listen with yer heart?
Edit:
Translation for my overly high self: this was so good I had an almost religious experience. In my mind’s eye I could see the emperor’s light and in my core I could feel the weight and power in his words.
*emperor screaming in agony for 10000 years*
I hope the Lion gets to speak with the Emperor at some point, and what is said
For the Emperor; I hope to all of his will and divinity you have involvement in the upcoming 40k Series adaptation.
Muito bom!! Chega a arrepiar!
Meus agradecimentos!
Great voiceover. I loved it.
Thank you very much!
was thinking about all the perpetuals emperor included. was thinking the olds ones created them to lead mankind
Wow! Very nice voice acting!
This is soo wild. It sounds like these recordings i have on my phone 2 years ago.
I love your voice in your videos.
Poor Emperor
“Kitten was supposed to pull your life support. But if you are here I suppose you and your legion of blueberrys you separated out into multiple picnick baskets, can be put to some use.”
You do great work. ❤
My many thanks! That means a lot
@@danielquintonvo I keep crying while listening your effects and emotion are so powerful.
5:54 There he is. Struggled to pull his mind back together to speak to the Avenging Son. The sigh of Guilliman at the end.... Was it a sigh of hope?
Awsome work!
beautiful
My thanks!
I take this as a choice to Guillomon, the Emperor in his infinite knowledge and infinite feeling, knows that humanity is as close to collapse as he is. So his contradictions are the ways it can go, not a prophecy but a warning.
There is hope in the Grim Dark, for we must trust
Can you do some of the audio books like this? People would love to listen this kind of edit.
Can't ignore the use of the word "Apotheosis".
Father!... This was incredibly unhelpful. Gonna go now.. maybe get myself an eldar wife.
Are all the voices that conflict the ancients that combined to become the emperor long ago? And the unification being the emperor reforming himself from the sun of his parts even but for a moment?
This was great
Anyone know if audiobooks has music and voice-effects like this? I'd absolutely listed to them if they are as immersive as this.
Great 👍
Yeah, no wonder Roboute is suffering from Ultradepression... no pressure bro.
Not only that but he is fookin hate this Imperium.
@@Warmaster2001 as it is now? Yes.
I c what u did there
04:50 "'Father, not a Father, thing, thing, thing' the minds said."
That part really stood out to me. This sounded like the Emperor decrying the utter maddening horror he's become. All glory, splendour, and humanity lost, his self-loathing really comes through. Great job again.
He’s essentially become like Darth Vader he hates his own exsistence
Maybe what he's trying to say is that none of those matters because those are from the past. Maybe he's trying to tell roboute that what matters is the present and their people.
Well in the End and The Death vol 2. The Emp legit launches his love and humanity off into the warp as he couldn't have those shards of himself if he wanted to fight Horus. Poor guy hopefully finds them
It is rather a hint of his true self. As if he, like primarchs, was created for a purpose.
Those are the shards of him contradict each other. Remember Big E is in million pieces right now. That great will that asserted was himself. But from what i understood he couldn't maintain control over his own unlimited psyke. Big E is combations of millions of souls. The voices robot man heard was probably the original shamans that sacrified themselfs in order to create Big E.
This proves there was an emotional connection. The Emperor pulled himself together for nearly the final time, not to impart a command, but to speak his son's name.
You mean a number or a tool yea?
@@andrewellisonleeHe means when He called him Guilliman. Pulling together his psyche, even just to speak a _single_ word, is incomprehensibly painful for the Emperor. He exercised what little of his power He had left just to call his son by name.
@@TheCorrodedManand he called him his greatest son. The emperor wanted to impart he trusted his son. I believe g man is wrong in that it eas conditional. The emperor weeps for his lost children.
I think the impression the emperor’s words gave him was that they were equally desperate to ask the other for help. So G was not only not going to get the guidance he came for but was also aware now that the human part of the emperor was as helpless as him when it came to controlling the overwhelming power .
I also believe there is an apology in these words, for the doubt cast on Guilliman during the heresy. Guilliman stayed true and has died for the cause, twice. He is The Avenging Son.
In the grim darkness of the Far Future…
_There is yet Hope_
I really wish GW would just make a alternate Canon where The Emperor gets his perfect playthrough collects all 20/21 primarchs and his plans actually go off without a hitch.
@@ElGrabnarincorporate it into the Horus Heresy line and make it some MCU shenanigans. Crisis of 40,000 Warhammers.
I can imagine a story where the Great Crusade comes to a close with extreme fan fare across the entire imperium, actual thriving populations and now the fight turns to the true enemy, chaos.
The Emperor gathers all 20 of this Sons in to the Palace and fully reveals to them the nature of the warp, what it holds and the dangers it causes. - Cut to a full scale mobilization of the Empire, every forge world going at full blast, each legion ranking in the hundreds of thousands. And in full lock step they some how cleanse the warp.
And then the tyranids eat everything and the Emperor jolts awake from a nap on Terra and it was all a dream.
That final "Guilliman" feels like the Emperor on his deathbed, reaching out his hand to console his son, letting him know one last time that he believes in him. One word with infinite weight, you captured the moment perfectly.
Hits way too hard
@@deanrogers6 For The Emperor!
Mortarion was right about one thing.
His father is dead. The Emperor is not the same person he was during the crusade.
There may be love there still... but millennia of suffering on an unimaginable scale would erode everything from you. Strip you to your barest nature and take even that away. The Emperor fights because that's all he can do. He can't even die.
A machine once of preservation turned to one of eternal torture, keeping keeping alive something which was meant to die long, long ago. Not unlike the Imperium itself.
This is explained in further detail in the Siege of Terra. I strongly encourage everyone read the terrible choice the emperor had to make to defeat Horus at the end of the series. Truly riveting storytelling from Dan Abnett and crew
Malcador also gave a final speech on how absolutely fuked the Emperor was gonna be and how the Primarchs didn't really realize what they were doing but they also had no choice
@@mogim815its been retconned i think, golden throne isnt keeping emperor alive in fact i think if he wasnt on the golden throne he would have recovered by now. Emperor is alive because of his own power and the golden throne needs massive amount of it to protect humanity, if emperor ever gets off the throne he might recover but humanity is doomed. Also thing to note good part of the emperor was cut out before fight with horus so its still out there somewhere, so there is still hope for emperor to come back from this. Not that it will ever happen as 40k is gonna get milked forever
I thought Big E was a perpetual, so wouldn’t death be the preferred outcome in this instance?
The effort of The Emperor rending his fragmented soul and psyche back together just to communicate this small amount is completely unfathomable. Hundreds of psychers being turned to ash while the golden throne does whatever the hell it does all while this godlike being is in a state between life and death pulling together his consciousness. For 10,000 years he has been interred upon the golden throne. I can’t imagine what that what do to someone’s mind.
Hell is just a word,reality is far worse
The fact he has a mind at all is pretty crazy. Malcador was still logical after his body was gone but he also could no longer feel the pain. He was ash and so had no body to feel and only existed through a sigil. The Emperors body is still there and sure the pain for a day he could take or even a thousand days but 10,000 years of it? Idk if he even exists at that point
Yes
Wait until the Emperor contacts the Lion.
"Is he gone... Finally. About fucking time. Dorn, you can come out of your box fort now, he's gone. I swear to fucking god, the chanting in my head was deafening. I was about to lose my hearing, and my eardrums rotted away millennia ago."
"You cannot lose your hearing twice, father."
"How un-fucking-fortunate. God damn it Rogal. Go back in your box fort."
"No."
Dammit, Goldylocks, this is why I told you to shut off his life support millenia ago!
Why do I read this in TTS voice, damn it
I still like to believe that the emperor cares about his sons, he's just so mixed and not right in the head right now that you wont know what he really feels
He is the god emperor. A true living God. He sees the duality of everything due to the wide perspective of humanity and the universe that he has and unlike us or even primarchs who lack that perspective, he accepts it all as what is and leaves the effects of “love” and other emotions that seek to color everything we perceive to us mortals. In a sense he has transcended far beyond humanity and it’s biological/emotional trappings. “A father, not a father.” Both are true but only he can truly see that. The God emperor can be said to be a Buddhist deity.
Actually it's more that he's no longer able to feel those emotions. It was revealed in The End and The Death Vol. 2 that before going to face Horus, the Emperor separated and cast off the part of his soul containing among other things his love and compassion so that he would be able to fight and kill Hours, and so that he could endure what would follow afterward.
After reading the End and the Death volumes 1 and 2, I can verify that the Emperor both loves his sons and not right in the head
He cares about his sons like how an insane craftsman cares about his tools.
I think its possible he loves them, but he needs Guilliman to feel that way so he will go and fix the Imperium out of spite and such. Then again, its hard to express love and such when you literally threw your compassion into another dimension, and you're a bunch of shamans coming unglued in pure agony.
The fate of the Emperor is such a horrific tragedy to try to comprehend. Under all his godlike power he's still just a man. He has human emotions and human depth and human contradictions. He can't decide whether Guilliman is his final living son, his last connection to his own humanity, or just the last tool in his belt to try to reclaim what was lost. A champion for his vision or a broken failure like all his traitor primarchs. The broken mind of a man physically trapped in a rotting body by his own power. A mortal being with an immortal soul forced to carry the responsibility of a god.
I almost break down trying to wrap my head around it.
He is is son and he loves him with all his heart.
Very well worded. I had the impression that over the last 10k years, he became more and more a being of the warp. With all that that entails, great power yes, but borne of a place no soul should consciously be subjected to. It is incomprehensible to us, and he has endured it for so long that he's become part of it, sowed into it. He suffers greatly because of what it does to him while also trying to use the power his people give him to protect them and save them. Maybe he sees nothing, adrift in the warp, lost and surrounded by the impossible and his waking dreams of helping people are those moments we see his miracles.
@domenikschmitz334 No he doesn't. At no point during his living life did the emperor see his sons as anything other than a tool to be used and discarded.
@@mdc123-v2v the Emperor was the embodiment of the psychological dark triad
You did such an amazing job. People usually overembellish the emperors voice, trying to make him sound godly. But I've always imagined it like this. The voice of an old soul. Wise and calm, but at the same time tired and weary of carrying the weight of humankind itself on his shoulders.
Thank you very much! That means a lot. I was rather intimidated by attempting to portray the Emperor, with how large of a character he is so that is wonderful to hear.
and, my many thanks for watching!
@@danielquintonvo yeah I have to agree your voiceover for the emperor is perfect. Sounds like someone who has gone mad after 10,000 years of being on life support but is too god damn powerful for someone to pull the plug. Kinda reminds me of Optimus Prime if he went insane
DAMN! Your voice as the Emperor is great! Powerful and accusing, and then tired and sad. Truly emphasizes what has happened to the Emperor in the 10k years he has been interred unto the Throne.
Thank you greatly! It was a rather large task to take on a recording with the Emperor in it! I am pleased to know it worked out well.
My thanks for watching!
Fr, you really sold the big E. Would not be disappointed to hear you voicing him or any other “distant” godly figure.
@danielquintonvo question when are you going to return to vampire masquerade stuff from your break of it?
It seemed as if he was seeing and knowing millions of possible timelines, some where Guilliman may have taken to the side of Horus, others where he stayed true, becam neutral, was killed, etc...
I swear, I felt a heavy weight when I heard the voice
I truly felt the despair and wrongness within your depiction of the Emperor, this is superb work!
Thank you very much! I am very glad that came across, hearing it means a lot.
My thanks for watching!
As beautiful as this scene is, part of me wishes we also got Mortarion's POV of seeing Emps and realising just how mighty Emps is and what he destroyed by betraying the Imperium
You have to realise.
This is what Gulliman heard.
But Mortarion was there with him...
What did he hear?
What did the fallen lord of Barbaros hear, when his father spoke?
Was he called the 14th?
Was he called a betrayer?
A double agent?
Beautiful?
Mortarion would see the reality. A corpse of a dying psyker barely holding on with help of a machine...
@@BananenbaumEY I think it would start like that, but then Morty would see the true might of the Emperor. He would see the reason the Chaos Gods call him the Anathema. But then the power would fade, and he'd see the broken corpse again. But now he'd know what that corpse was hiding, and what it's death means for humanity and the warp
@@thatonebisexualnerd1370 what does it mean for the warp?
I can’t imagine what it must be like for the both of them. For Guilliman to have such a crushing emotional moment like that and for the emperor to be suffering in perpetual pain stuck on the throne for 10,000 years because of the betrayal of his own creation, his own son, and for him to put in so much effort just to barely be able to speak coherently with the only son that hasn’t either betrayed him, gone MIA, or are KIA.
It's as if the Emperor is battling through some great and terrible cosmic dementia, wrought by his overwhelming power; Trying to speak to Roboute through an ocean of minds and possibilities, and hoping that Guilliman can make sense of his words.
THIS is how Ive always seen this scene in my mind. Holy shit you did this extremely well
That means a lot to me! I am glad I could record it to your liking.
My thanks for watching!
Well done
This reading really punched me in the guts. Truely heart felt.
My thanks! That means a lot
@@danielquintonvoPlease do the excerpt of the Burning of Nurgle's Garden or Khorne's attempt to corrupt Dorn inside the Vengeful Spirit.
@@danielquintonvoNo other reading I've heard yet really captured the horror and agony of the Emperor's internment like you did here. Phenomenal work.
5:55 that is *perfection*.
The tone, the music, the warped voice implying the terrible effort it takes for this lost, doomed man to collect enough of himself to speak the name.
Give The Emperor a bit of a break, for over 10,000 years he's fought chaos, power the astronomican, and part knowledge on key individuals. All this while his body decays and his mind shattered to the point that there's no way to tell which one is truely him.
You forget about the webway portal,he has to keep that shit closed too.
@@alexbrinzan9061 forgot about that, thanks for the reminder. Also a thank you to Magnus the Red.
If you’ve read the last heresy book , I think it’s just the two aspects of the emperor from when he split to fight Horus. I take it as the god emperor is a fragmented mind but when he is needed most the fragment with his humanity comes out. No matter what people say the emperor loved his sons(creations), theres a scene where he’s trying to fix angron and you can see that killing angron would have been the expedient choice but he couldn’t do it, for the slight chance he could be saved. Creations or sons it doesn’t matter, he made them to him they are the same. What king wouldn’t see his son as a tool , it doesn’t mean he doesn’t care for them. I love the scene where he suggests even mortarion could be saved and how in the last book they even say the emperor knew if he killed Horus he’d have been broken anyway and would have followed a path to damnation.
slight chance he could be saved? if you are talking about his surgery scene that's absolutely not what he kept angron around and you know it
he saw angron as a useful tool and weapon, something which could still fight and conquer, he didn't have empathy for Angron, he used Angron
@lukeBryen2 I ain't reading that bro
@@nicholasbrown668 The Emperor has zero interest of his planets to be ruins, graveyards. He needs prosperity, unity and resources to fuel his crusade to unite humanity. Angron did the opposite. He was a mad dog that butchered the innocent and ruined his whole Legion. The Emperor did try to cure Angron but in doing so it would kill him. He loved his son, in a way, but didn't really showed it. Also the Emperor created his sons to be administrators, not butchers. Angron had healing powers if i recall correctly. His purpose was the exact opposite of what he became. He was broken but still he was his son.
What about Lorgar? The Emperor warned him multiple times for decades but Lorgar ignored him. His father had enough and punished him by razing Monarchia but not before evacuating the population. Again, the Emperor wants to avoid needless death.
Angron was to be the healer, Konrad the Judge, Perturabo the builder etc.etc. all progressive roles for his Empire but fate had other plans.
Sorry but the Emperor loved his sons, he had A LOT of patience and trust and in the end that was his undoing.
@@Shadowhunterbg your comment would make sense if the Emperor didn't rationalize keeping Angron alive specifically because of his ruthlessness and effectiveness and even told Arkan Land that
the Emperor didn't care about his sons
also you mean the evacuation that also came with purges of the population? that evacuation? and the Emperor who openly allowed one of his sons to brutally torture people? you say he cares about human life? the evacuation where Ultramarines killed anyone who refused to evacuate? the evacuation where Ultramarines literally told a woman "move or I will kill you with the heathen words still in your mouth"?
@@nicholasbrown668 You're hanging on to one version of The Emperor written by one author, who deliberately made him ambigous by having different people see different aspects of him. So you're not even using the full interpretation. He is a millenia old godlike being and his sons are likewise immortal demigods, they're not ging to play catch or get tucked in (incidentaly, this is exactly what he did do with Horus, the son he got to raise, instead of brainwashing him into mindless servitude). Seriously, the whole argument falls apart the moment you ask "Why didn't he just use his godlike powers and super space tech to brainwash all the primarchs into mindless servitude, why did he let them keep their free will and humanity?". No answer. Every retcon to make him more callous opened a billion plot holes and made the story dumber because surprisingly a lot of the story hinged on the guy who willingly endures millennia of the worst torture imaginable for the sake of his species being kind of capable of love and humanity.
god damn! I've heard many versions of the God Emperor speaking, but this does give me chills. It fits his current state so perfectly, the amount of souls and power coursing through him.
Fantastic job once again!
Thank you very much, that means a lot to me! It was a tough ask to record so I am glad it could have a desired effect!
My thanks for watching!
I love this scene because, even though G-man comes away feeling cold, I can’t help but feel this is, partially, a genuine display of affection from The Emperor. I mean, he hasn’t done this in ten thousand years. He’s spoken through people by giving them visions and what have you, but he’s never committed to the massive force of will necessary to actually speak with anyone. Until his son came back. That’s kinda beautiful I think.
The emotion you put into Guilliman's voice is exceptional, like you're truly pouring some part of yourself into the role. He sounds like a stoic demigod brought close to tears. Really excellent work.