BMW VS Toyota Reliability In 2020
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I really wanted a BMW, but my wife said we should get a Toyota.... so I bought a Supra! 8^D
The wife is very smart
Fool
You got no money so you can't own one
We bought a 2012 BMW 128 convertible 6 months ago and we love our "drivers" car. N52, E88. MJ's daily driver is a 2014 Lexus is250, small v6 vs 3l inline. Two totally different experiences. Both cars are great in their own situations. Now that we own both I would sell the Lexus if needed just for the fun factor of the BMW. Because I can work on the BMW for routine maintenance from experience with from buying a 1996 328iC I fixed up for my teenage daughter. I was also broke in the 70's and 80's and learned to turn a wrench on many models of cars.
To Nathan's point...
I'm 53, never married, no kids, no mortgage, and I make about 70 - 75 K a year. I own a 2011 BMW 328i with an inline 6. I've never worked on it myself, I'm not mechanically inclined and have zero desire to work on any car. If something happened/ happens to it I bring it to the dealer to fix it. But like Nathan said, if you can't afford to buy a BMW because you can't afford to have it fixed or don't know how to fix it yourself,you might not want to buy one.
I'd seriously prefer owning a BMW over having a wife and kids. Owning these cars are far cheaper than landing yourself in that mess!
Scotty Kilmer and his minions probably have you on a hit list....
William Egler The nasty flaw in Scotty’s though process is that if everyone drove a Toyota, as he suggests, nobody would need him around and he’d just be an opinionated mail man!
@kevin theman Driven German and Swedish vehicles almost exclusively since I was given a 1974 Opel Manta in 1985 as a 16th birthday present.
Should have been the worst car in the world...a German GM.
Still have it.
Since then I have owned all the German marques from VW to Porsche.
I maintain them according to the manufacturers recommendations and they have all proven reliable.
Each has been driven between 250 to 300k miles before being replaced.
German cars get a bad reputation because the subsequent owners usually aren't in the finical position to maintain them.
The 16 yr old using his 15 yr old 3-series to deliver pizza complains of problems brought on by lack of maintenance.
A lot of people driving German cars are repeat buyers so they must have been satisfied.
Nathan, I know you love BMW's and are one of the most determined guys when it comes to fixing them. I'm a retired auto tech. Own an older mercedes wagon and love it. Never had a problem repairing it. I bought an E90 last year, then as I got to know all the quirks and issues, I bought the Pro Tool to iron out the problems. But, I couldn't wait to sell it because it was like an accident waiting to happen. Toyota's are in a class by themselves when it comes to reliability. Can't even compare a Bimmer to a Toyota. Love your videos! PS: My daily driver is an Nissan Altima 2015. Yes it has the CVT, but I keep it serviced and installed an external trans cooler and it makes the difference. I've had NO issues with the CVT as a result.
Like you, I have both (2008 Tundra 5.7 4x4 Dbl Cab and a 2010 BMW 328i with sport package). I enjoy driving my BMW way more than my Tundra because I enjoy the sporty ride and luxury features, and it defrosts much quicker than my Tundra. With that said, for long distance drives to the beach or Florida (I live in TN), I always take my Tundra because I know it will always bring me home.
I just got my first car, an Oxford green 2000 540i (yes, with the REAL M-Sport package), and found that a previous owner flipped the rearview mirror upside down. This has the rather pleasant side effect of matching the shape of the mirror frame to the shape of the rear C pillars when you look though it. It also tucks the red bulb up and out of the way, and doesn't hinder the automatic wiper function (at least I think that's what it's for, correct me if I'm wrong). Just thought y'all'd like to know. 😁
I agree with the premise that if you can't work on your own car, do not get a BMW. You need patience to do so and regularly. It is the way of these cars. I have one because I love the way it does everything on the road.
You’re definitely biased...but you’re also definitely right. BMWs are for people who enjoy performance and or working on/tuning cars.
That can be the case with most models but not my n54
I disagree with you
Toyota are for people who working for tuning
E39 528i 1999, Best car I've had to date, Bought for £500, pound's with. 90.000 miles on it, But BMW told the previous owner that the gearbox was shot! It wasn't new oil cooler and oil change, is all it needed , I Drove it for seven years, with no problems, ABS ECU shit itself, fixed it for £250 with a second hand unit. Other than that, it never missed a beat, Just regular services. Now have a E46 330i M sport coupe, 2006 , Nice car, but I still have a soft spot for the old 5 series, The Japanese cars are reliable, but they have no soul ! Oh yes, sold the 5 For 3 times what I paid for it after seven years and 60.0000 miles. 😁
I have worked as bmw tech and Toyota tech. Trust me Toyota have more problems than bmw. Also Toyotas are a lot more difficult to work on. Interesting fact BMW actually gets real life techs to work on vehicles during the engineering development stages to ensure the vehicles will be ergonomic to work on, as well as being time efficient to replace parts if needed to keep warranty claim costs down. Toyota do not do this, bastards to work on. once working on a 1996 Toyota Mr2 I was thinking mmm change leaking water pump or slam balls in drawer.. Which would be less painful....
I've had several E38's, a few E36 and they've all kept me outside wrenching for something that broke. I'm older now and wrenching is getting just as tired now so, Toyota products will do it for me. Oil, tire, brake pad, battery and windshield wiper blade changes are a beautiful thing to me. If something breaks (which isn't often) I'm OK to fix it due to my experience with European cars and trucks. Great video as usual Nathan!
Timing belts, water pumps, rotted out exhaust, OIL PUMP SEAL leak on a 99 camry. Worst oil leaks ive ever seen in my life. And though wasnt hard for me to repair by myself. Someone whos never worked on a car, let alone time an engine might ruin there engine while attempting to repair. Not like it matters they have to fix it. All the oil leaks out as if u had a hole in your oil. Toyotas main problem is rot.
Will there ever be any videos where you actually work on your cars? There could be some fantastic content on this channel based on the cars you recently bought.
I think love, willing to research before buying and dedication for a BMW is what drives someone to own a BMW. When I bought my E46, I learned so much on how to keep it going and building my confidence to troubleshoot vacuum leaks I had that were making my 325i idle rough which is common flaw on the M54 engine. I'm happy with my E46, even if she costed a little more in repairs but she drives better than any other car I've had.
Lexus vs bmw would be more apt comparison. Is250/350/f vs e90 series.
Right On Nathan BMW Best Motoring World ! LOL
Had Toyota (Sienna & Corolla) and a Honda CR-V for more than a decade. Did bought BMW X3 (2017) used for my wife. We drove it, it was really different. We were amazed about the ride and comfort. That day we purchased the X3. Read a column, referring to BMW. Like your wife, if you take care of her it will take care of you 😄‼️
You can't even compare a basic Toyota to a BMW that's just ridiculous. But Lexus only beats BMW in engine reliability other then that BMW destroys Lexus.
Zion lords bmw is a better buy for the money, Lexus IS a complete waste, after 100k mileage Lexus has no horsepower, complete donkey.
Jason T there’s no doubt Toyota Lexus has a better reliability, but unless you drive a bmw long term, you will not realize that the Germans offer better performance, and handling, Toyota Lexus IS mediocre, especially when they reach 100k mileage, it’s like beating a donkey, a turbocharged bmw will still feel like a brand new vehicle no matter how many mileage, no matter how many years old, they still perform better than the Japanese, and this what put German engineering above average, their only downfall is the excessive use of plastic materials, but once routine maintenance is done, bmw is the best.
Jason T I own both Lexus, and bmw, and from my own personal experience, the Germans are better at delivering performance, and handling for the rest of the vehicles entire lifespan based on routine maintenance, Lexus Toyota considerably has a better reliability because they are basic built naturally aspirated engines, and they lose considerably amount of horsepower with age, and mileage, you cannot put a 2005 Lexus with 100k mileage to run against a 2005 bmw with 200k mileage, because that bmw is definitely gonna kick it’s ass, German engines are bulletproof, the inline 6 twin turbocharged engine will remain delivering enough horsepower, and perform better than a donkey Toyota Lexus.
Jason T either way you slice it the Germans have better engines over the Japanese, if you focus just on the motor in a German vehicle, it’s far better value than any Japanese engine, what makes bmw complicated is the excessive use of plastic, and we all know it’s being used for profitable purposes, but in the long run, I would rather spend my money on a German vehicle, just because the engine is Teflon, Lexus Toyota drivers don’t understand when you tell them these vehicles Lack performance with age, it’s like beating a donkey, and you won’t see the difference until you sit in an Audi, Benz, or a bmw, then you realize that the Germans are above the mediocre.
Jason T Japanese motors becomes a donkey with high mileage, useless slow junk, stepping on the gas pedal will get you nowhere fast enough, after 100k mileage they worthless.
Lol, funny my ever day vehicles are Toyotas and my garage baby is a BMW... Love the outro music Nathan! Keep up the good work...
The concept of mercedes, audi and bmw is to have the car regularly serviced at the official dealer workshop.
A bmw is not reliable at all 😂😂
old bmws are pretty reliable
Nathan, how come you never had an E38 in your shop?
I was wondering that myself. I am a massive E38 fan myself.
He doesn’t like the v8
@@anthonyk I think bigger youtubers tend to create more talking videos rather than teaching mechanical stuff, electrical stuff as it is less time consuming and easier way to make views and watch time. I think they are concentrating on the newer vehicles as they see more potential for more views.
You are right, he gets over 1000 views a day. He doesn't care about the viewers anymore, it's about making easy content. Work 10mins a day for a decent wage. His videos on fixing things are from earlier days and were ordinary at best. He is not even a mechanic. No clue how to fix cars just slightly more of an idea than a lot of viewers. I'm a bmw tech and watch his videos for a laugh at how these hacks pretend to know what they doing. It's a joke. And I love hearing how he trys to tell if a part is good or not "it's kinda good kinda not, I might replace it anyways" wtf. Blind teaching the blind.
Oh and in terms of a TOW vehicle, a Lexus GX460 is the way to go.
Thanks for the video Nate
Nathan...my 2006 e90 won’t start after the battery died and I boosted it... now it just keeps cranking .
Andrew Calk you probably blew the fuse block on your battery.
change the battery
Stop being cheap and replace the battery with a new one
Jeremy Petix thanks for reply, however I tried that, I bypassed it and still nothing.
Filip Daniel thanks for reply bro, the battery is just fine, it’s been fully charged and cranks the car forever, it doesn’t have spark or fuel anymore...
If I buy a used BMW, which is the best used car warranty company?
I really want a X5
Kirk Banton the only best used car warranty is Yourself, save up your own money, and buy parts from FCP euro, all their parts have lifetime warranty, but do not spend your money on any extended warranty companies, they are all thieves, bmw won’t have any engine or transmission failure, unless you neglect the maintenance.
Funny you say "if you live in a big city" I was thinking where I'm at now, & then you say it "Chicago"
lol
Toyota vs BMW. Ugh. Apples & oranges. No effing Toyota for me. *HOLDING IT DOWN ON ZEE ENGINEERING TIP: REPRESENTING DEUTSCHLAND*
Great vid. On point.
When I think about Hondas and Toyotas, I think about something I read a long time ago about the kinda of people that bought Ramblers 50 years ago; “They are the perfect cars for people who don’t care anything about cars!”. Yeah, I know there are and always have been some quicker sporty Toyota models, but their bread and butter has always been 4 door sedans that are best described as “nice” ... but they don’t break. I have never owned a Toyota (but driven a few) and I’ve owned a few Hondas ... nothing wrong with them except they bored me to tears. So, here is the deal; buy yourself a 3-5 year old Toyota to get you to work, etc. and buy yourself a 25 year old BMW for fun. Find the nicest six cylinder e34 or e36 you can find for $4,500.00 tops. You’ll get a nice one for that much if you look ... clean, 135k or less, not beat or beat up. You will do enough wrench twisting to challenge yourself and have fun, the parts are cheap, and (other than cheap interiors) the cars are great! The Toyota will be completely happy living on the driveway while the BMW will “require” the garage! Everybody wins!
Why not buy a X5 with a GM transmission and tow with that
I have worked as bmw tech and Toyota tech. Trust me Toyota have more problems than bmw. Also Toyotas are a lot more difficult to work on. Interesting fact BMW actually gets real life techs to work on vehicles during the engineering development stages to ensure the vehicles will be ergonomic to work on, as well as being time efficient to replace parts if needed to keep warranty claim costs down. Toyota do not do this, bastards to work on. Once while working on a 1996 Toyota Mr2 I was thinking mmm replacing this leaking water pump or slam my balls in a drawer.. Which would be less painful....
My mom (an office manager) works on her e39 herself.
Yup.. the “hose from hell” 😂
Can confirm that Chicago sucks for these cars, I have a disco 2 and nobody wants to work on it unless I pay an arm and leg
I've had toyota all my life ae86/ae92/sw20/camrys/prius,V yes, reliable and very little maintenance. But after driving a BMW G20. it does makes you smile. it's just like eating beef, toyota is like mcd quarter pounder, you eat it, will get you full, bmw is like going to high end restaurant eating steak, yes, cost a lot more but you will feel good about it.
Got any ideas for my issue I have a 04 bmw325i decent shape 161k between 75-85 mph it has an awful rattle if I accelerate a little bit if I floor it I don’t have that problem any tips on what it could be that I could change
It could be several things. Typically I check the tire balancing, verify you don't shake at 35-40mph. If that clears check your driveshaft, guibo not worn and it's phased properly.
Sounds like pre ignition try premium hi octane fuel
Love my E61 and E53
Wouldnt a is300 be more related to a 3 series? I'd choose 3 series every time btw 😀
I was thinking of buying a new 2020 Toyota Tundra and I was extremely disappointed.. I loved the way it looked on the outside but the interior is super cheap and just way behind on all the tech stuff. Their premium sound system is trash! Their reverse camera looks like a 1990s web cam! Super disappointing for a brand new 2020 truck. The other thing I didnt like is it doesnt even feel like your driving a truck, it felt more like driving a Camry! Lmao needless to say I'll probably be buying a Ford Raptor that's more my style. 😎
American and European cars for me. Never took (liked) to Japanese cars.
I’ve fixed so many vehicles in the years it’s not funny. Garages aren’t a necessity, but nice.
idk y i love bmws so much but its my feeling that the BMW brand fits me best 1 quote i like to say is 'Im high maintenance like my german cars" lol . quality is subjective quality to me isnt reliability but driving performance & comfort... living in the city tho i wouldnt really buy one at this time without a warranty haha, once the warranty would expire id be out of it but its getting a little tricky since the new ones are alot softer in the driving performance department..... miss that hydraulic steering....
Had a 98 528i with close to 200k. Prior to that had a 96 es300. Both nice cars. But the e39 was far better. Except for the sound system. Then i had a 99 528i 5 speed. With 80k on it when i bought it. Car was perfect. Unfortunately a silverado on the highway who was texting and driving clipped me into a guard rail on highway. Car was totaled. But i was able to get out the car and go work for 8 hours no problem ( im an auto tech) after that i bought a 99 camry 2.2L 4 cylinder. Had it for 2 years. Good car but i hated it. I now have a 2005 x5 3.0 Liter and love it. Perfect for my first born whos a year old. I was looking at 98-01 4runner but they are all rotted and over priced
I have owned used BMWs for the last 28 years. However I would not recommend a used one to anyone.
Aye most people don’t give a shit about cars. They have other hobbies and they don’t watch car videos. They just want a point a to point b so they can spend more time doing their real hobby. That’s why Toyota is number 1 car manufacturer in the world
Only Toyota I’ll buy is Supra or Mk3 mr2 turbo I owned 95 Supra it’s amazing car doesn’t feel like it Toyota
How many miles on the Sequoyah now?
He told you! Listen! 4:30.
407 000 miles.
If you go to countries where there are no mechanics on every corner of the city, such as Africa, there is also no BMW. As for build quality and driving pleasure, you have Lexus that is as good or better than the BMW. Toyota has iconic models, such as the Corola Levim, Celica, Supra and others. The price you will need to buy a used Toyota supra mark 4 in Germany , buys all BMW models of the same year.
Without watching this video, it's already a No brainer\No contest Toyota All The Way.
Edit: Now, after watching this video? I will say that I would rather take an Audi over a BMW. I have also owned a few BMW vehicles.
Like others have also said, You are very biased towards BMWs. Definitely not knocking you for that my family was once HUGE BMW fanatics..
What's sad is that BMWs lose their resale value A TON and Fast. Every vehicle does, I understand that(With the exception of collector/exotic cars of course).
Kiss Kiss yeah bmws depreciate drastically! Buying one new is a bad waste of money. 2nd owners probably get the best bang for their buck.
They loose their value pretty quick like almost all cars, but gain value years later when "enthusiast" start driving the value back up; by buying them up.
atrain132 BMWs value plummets after the initial purchase. The same is true for most german cars. Japanese cars dont depreciate as fast. there was a time when german cars were the best built but i dont think thats true any more. I feel like german auto makers are relying on the name alone to sell cars and lagging in the quality... just like how every bmw has an M badge... its a gimmick now.. used to be only for actual M cars. They are building these cars to last a lease term then expect people to swap them out when the warranty is up. Then some poor sucker buys up the lease return with no warranty and thinks they are getting a sweet deal on a newish bmw...
I say yolo bmw or any car you like.
Here’s the truth, bmw is a better vehicle engine wise, performance, and handling will be an addiction, only downfall is expensive excessive maintenance, Toyota Lexus has long term reliability, but after 100k these vehicles are donkeys, they suck at performance with age.
They're generally , uglier as well with very thin metals. Never liked Japanese and Korean cars.
Trisdoo o yea the Germans are better, they are worth the money in the long run, Toyota Lexus has reliability, but they don’t have lifetime horsepower, with high mileage, Japanese motor becomes an old donkey 🐴that cannot keep up with high speed traffic.
Definitely need to buy a 2007 - 2013 Toyota tundra
Owning.a BMW is like marrying a high maintenance bitchy trophy wife. Never again.
I just hate bmws for their horrible mechanical design, and they just don’t suit me. I have a Toyota Corolla and it has never given me an issue, but it is a plain car. For the weekends I would go with a 5.0 or a Challenger Hemi.
I have yet to see a Bmw with high mileage without having problems with their components at low or high mileage cause i bought a 2018 Bmw 4 series my brother couldn’t turn on because when he did all the lights came on and and turned off they had too towed the vehicle and what was the cause a faulty low fuel pressure pump and computer modules just remember that Toyota are the best selling vehicles just to let you know not Bmw i disagree with you they are quiet and Lexus are better than Bmw in many ways.
Toyota
I am a BMW tech of 16 years. If I make videos on how to actually diagnose problems with bmws and step by step how to fix them will people be interested to view them? Or are people more interested in listening to this hack waffle on about BS?
The channel is popular because it demystifies BMW ownership for the DIY guy. There is need for detailed step by step videos, but you have to make it somewhat interesting too. I like Eric of the South Main Auto Repair LLC for that kind of video, but he doesn't do German cars. Watch Eric, then produce step by step videos like that for German cars. Eric is especially adapt a fixing electrical gremlins. Otherwise, this channel is excellent too.
Tacoma
So go buy yourself a BMW X6 to tow your cars I'm get rid of the Toyota 🤔🤔🤔
Toyota is not your appetite? no european car is my appetite
why kid yourself, just admit the truth. BMWs are trash.
Put your seatbelt on!!
You got to admit half the time these BMWs are in the shop did not on the road...
Not mine. I've had 3 of them.
Teflon don. I guess you never owned a bmw ore you buy one that was beated hard before.
Bmw is garbage.