Huw Edwards' deeply ‘consumed personality’ led him to commit crime | Andrew Billen
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- "People like Huw Edwards are a bit weird, a bit different, a bit untouchable, but have a bit more leeway in how they behave”.
Former BBC presenter Huw Edwards was able to "hoodwink" other staff members to do as he feels, says The Times’s Andrew Billen.
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Many people suffer debilitating mental health issues and life circumstances.
But they don't resort to being predators.
Zero sympathy here.
Correct.
RonsarLo*****
Perfect response✅️✅️
Yes, absolute BS
Totally
Fully paid up member of the Buggering Boys Club
Don’t dress it up , he was watching child abuse and I think there are more like him in public life .
Birds of a feather flock together .
DAVID ATTEN BOROUGH / ADAM BRITTEN
@@rumpoh8039What makes you say those names?
There's people like that in life, in general. So of course some in public life are like that. A school teacher when I was at primary school was caught with photos of children on his computer. Public life is no different to real life.
@@christopher_ecclestonea love of slander without evidence i suspect. Possibly if the poster has bought into some of the propoganda from big oil it might be because David Attenborough upsets him by talking about climate change.
@@rumpoh8039 Wow not atten borough
"Mental health problems." I was diagnosed as schizophrenic when I was fifteen and my teenage years and my early twenties were spent in a sort of sexual oblivion. I didn't go to prostitutes though nor indulge in the pervy stuff. I always believed in keeping really beautiful things to the forefront, good music and art for example. The crooks use psychiatry as a sort of insurance policy to lower their responsibility.
Surely you must know that mental health problems manifest themselves in many different ways.
Amazing comment and so true. Bravo!
hear hear
True . I should know . I’m a psychiatrist and I’m sick and tired of being asked to see criminals hoping to play the mental health card. The Yorkshire Ripper - Peter Sutcliffe - was a master at playing the system.
So true, It's disgraceful. I've really suffered with psychiatric illness since I was 13. Using the "mental illness card" seems to be the way to go for some.
Mental health problems because he got found out.
No sympathy
Poor mental health is indeed irrelevant to this case. I’ve had anxiety and depression for 39 years but never once felt the need nor inclination to look at deeply disturbing images like he has.
Me too Andrew depression for 40 years after an accident where I broke my back... never entered my unwell head to do what he's done....I bet he won't be the last
@@andrewgreen6429...... Ahh YES!
Anxiety/Depression - when you have THOSE TWO 'round ya' neck' LIFE can be Damned Hard at times!
He was from the welsh version of Oxford. His dad was establishment. His dad chose to send him to state school out of ideology. So as welsh people go he was from the top social tier. Don’t patronise us. The welsh working class don’t like him
He was not from an ordinary background in Welsh terms. His father Hywel Teifi Edwards was a high profile historian and Eisteddfod bigwig. There is a culture of narcissism in that world and in BBC Cymru, and having grown up around these kinds of people Huw Edwards fits right in there.
They tried to get him to co-host the News24 program that went out between 1700 and 1800 before 'The Six' with Jane Hill.
And it was obvious he hated it - he'd interrupt her, pout and generally behave like a spoilt 6 year old being made to do something he didn't like.
That lasted about a fortnight before it was pulled.
Agree 100%
Seems to be uniquely British thing too. I'm not inferring that American media is perfect, but the last decade+ has shown that there's a LOT of bad apples in British media...
@@nichobee The American media is FAR worse.
@@nichobeedon lemon say hi
Its about time we stopped putting "celebrities" on pedestals
Mental health? Must be deeply upsetting getting caught out! Turns up to court, looking like a film star in his own movie.
At least he didn't get off.....................well, not any more than he already got off.
@@vangroover1903 yes he did
He was protected by BBC bosses. Makes me sick.
Exactly money first
They have a habit of that
Narcissist
I have said for a long time, the BBC seems to be full of people who are arrogant, almost narcissistic, in the top roles, Laura K, Fiona Bruce, Sophie Rayworth, all the presenters on Radio 4. It is getting just as bad at LBC and Times Radio. Emily Whashername and all them on the Newsagents, it all seems to be about their egos for example. These people are paid astronomical amounts of money for what they do, it has to go to their heads and the become arrogant.
He’s an absolute disgrace, he arrogantly left the court with no statements of regret or apologies, looking stern and untouchable, I hope he gets prison time
His Crimes are vile, inexcusable and abhorrent!
He has broken up his whole family..,Prayers for his family!
Why.
Prayers for the victims!
Why are you still defending him? Stop
Because they are ALL in on it.
No excuse, he knew what he was doing
So if someone sent you illegal pictures your to blame. You just said so. It's currently the law. You don't even need to look at them.
@@womble321 People don't just get sent those sort of images unless they communicate or associate themselves with the perverts that would send that type of image . Edwards is clearly one of those perverts
@@womble321 It's never happened to me. I can't think why.
@@womble321 He paid for them, kept them, and never reported them. 36 times!!! Obviously he is to blame.
@@Build_Secrets exactly, images as serious as those would not randomly be sent to him, the distributer would have wanted payment for the risks they are taking.
He looked so arrogant yesterday turning up to court.
Arrogance provides a confidence to believe you can become untouchable. All Huw was read the autocue, right? His defence? Mental health issues. Should be behind bars if he cannot be honest regarding his depravity.
A lot of the BBC news 'top talent' are/were arrogant.
Not all though - Paxman and Dimbleby spring to mind who were friendly and approachable.
They're all paid too much - which can breed the arrogance and sense of untouchability you mention in some. The fact that no-one ever misses the "top talent" when they're gone, and that they always seem to be easily replaced, should really tell all media organisations that they don't have to pay these people such obscene amounts in the first place
@@user-s1o3nr532 BBC has a funny idea about pay.
Below a certain grade, it's 'well, people are proud to work for the BBC and should accept working unsocial hours and average pay'.
But hit 'senior management' or 'top talent' and it's 'we have to pay good saleries to attract the best in the industry'.
Never figured out where that crossover was but it certainly wasn't on my pay grade !
@@mrb.5610 You're right, but I think what you describe is a common mindset in the media - perhaps even in business generally. Companies show a distinct tendency to over-renumerate their top staff - until it becomes obvious they're really not all that special after all.
@@user-s1o3nr532Not forgetting that, if you're managing highly paid 'talent', that kind of implies that *you* need to be highly paid as well !
Walking to court we see an arrogant narcissistic person showing contempt--shameless in the extreme!
My youngest daughter is an experienced mental health nurse.
She echos your opinion
@@stephenholmes1036 Thank You--my opinion is based on experience too--Edwards is NOT ill-he is exactly as I described..Regards,MAF
Nobody ever tells us about whether the childten have been identified and brought to safety...we nevet get this information and its actually far more important than anything else ...are the abused children found and taken to safety???
Absolutely agree. I am annoyed they've told us Huw apparently told the other convicted paed not to send anything illegal, yet he did nothing to alter police to the unsafe child. He'll try to get off by saying he said not to send those photos. They're all disgusting.
Strangely enough I have never looked at any news reader as a celebrity. I have never loved any of them. Stop putting these selfish creatures on a pedestal.
It would help if they weren't paid such ridiculous amounts...
I think it changed when they became presenters not journalists.
@patrickdaly2121 : 🎯…… They’re just middlemen/women conveying the days events to the nation…..celebrities, I don’t think so !!
Typical mentality of BBC “high flyer” untouchable.
@@michaelbrian219 Not all. But a lot !
Quite a sycophantic culture at that level for whatever reason - and it can turn the heads of 'average' people to think they're God's gift to television.
I have said for a long time, the BBC seems to be full of people who are arrogant, almost narcissistic, in the top roles, Laura K, Fiona Bruce, Sophie Rayworth, all the presenters on Radio 4. It is getting just as bad at LBC and Times Radio. Emily Whashername and all them on the Newsagents, it all seems to be about their egos for example. These people are paid astronomical amounts of money for what they do, it has to go to their heads and the become arrogant.
How do you know that are you a bbc high flyer? Do you know any (i don't).
What about the treatment of Cliff Richard. The BBC have a lot to answer for there.
Arrogant with it too
This was evil, we have lost touch with right and wrong.
Same mentality as Saville, same response from the BBC , Saville was covered up until he passed by the Beeb.
They don't have the same get out of jail card for Edwards.
Beeb does what it always does if there's a scandal - and this includes project overspends too.
It closes ranks, throws money at it, keeps quiet and prays that it goes away.
Remember 'DMI' anyone ? £200 million IT project totally written off.
And only one person sacked and even he got a payout at the end - although to be fair, he inherited the project - it wasn't 'his baby' so to speak.
The BBC knew about Saville why else did somebody that did so much for charity NEVER appear on children in need.
@@stevvieb There's an interview somewhere when they talked to the producers of Jim'll Fix It and Children In Need.
And the former is denying any knowledge of any scandal while the later is saying there's no way he's going to be associated with his programme.
Funny that.
Not quite the same mentality as Savile. Savile did much more than look at a couple of dozen images, and he'd been personally abusing young girls for decades, starting before he even joined the BBC.
BBC again probably still the tip of the iceberg
Walking down the street as if he owned it with shades on unbelievable ?
Poor mental health is an irrelevant factor. Right and wrong is clear.
The people around him that blindly stood up for him should be ASHAMED as well. But it is all we expect from the BBC nowadays. I'm just glad I do NOT need a TV license and had to pay his wages all the time the BBC knew about the charges.
If you were a friend is someone and had absolutely no idea, you wouldn’t stick up for them?
@@Dbdbe1 Agreed but the the extent that Emily Maitlis went to to defend him, thats sounds like she was in on it.
I think it was John Sopel,John Simpson, Owen Jones, Emily Maitlis, Dan Walker who all defended him last year.
@@pauldurkee4764: Birds of a Feather I guess !!!!
If you keep paying the BBC licence fee you are complicit in this.
The problem with the TV Licence, is that even if you don't watch the BBC, you need one to watch any live TV broadcast in the UK. I used to to love the BBC, but they're just like the Mafia, and I despise them.
Effectively this is his life over. He obviously won't get any more jobs in broadcasting and he will never rid himself of this stigma. I have no sympathy, he has brought all this on himself through, at best, his own stupidity and at worst, his own depraved thoughts.
@@Matthew-bu7fg And the cost of the wrecked lives of the children in those images.
In a way, you could say this is a new kind of Huw Dunnit...................
@@mrb.5610 oh 100%, I really hope that the authorities have been able to support those children that have clearly been exploited by what seems like a whole group of people
OK he has earned large salaries. He can still walk on a hot sunny beech. Write articles for magazines newspapers under a pseudonym or books.
You don't worry you little head over edwards. His money paid for child abuse
@@mrb.5610from what I read on an article Huw was sent those images from another person he was talking to, and had asked him not to send him anything illegal.
BS.
he was employed by the BBC wasn't he? enough said.
I saw a documentary, C4 I think. I didn't watch it all far too painful.
There were little kids in the third world being abused by their parents for pennies broadcast on the internet.
I am taking a guess it was something like this.
Zero sympathy from me.
It doesn't just happen in developing countries. I worked for social services many moons ago and you'd be horrified if you knew what some parents do. When i first started I worked with a girl who had been sold to a group of men by her mom. I only lasted a few years because it felt completely hopeless and I couldn't cope with the horror of it. I'm not a fan of the police but those that have to look at films and images have my upmost respect. It must be so hard putting a prosecution together to watch perpetrators walk free with nothing more than a slap on the wrists. Which I expect Edwards will get too.
I never gave this guy a moment's thought until all this blew up. He was a newscaster, not a pop star. I'd call him a meta-celeb.
Suspension with full pay is perfectly normal practice.
BBC is full of them
Why are you British people now saying "pled" for pleaded? This used to be an annoying American habit. It has sadly spread to Britain now.
Plead is a regular verb. The past tense is PLEADED.
I wish your teachers had pled for you not to be so pernickety
Language evolves over time mate.
We trieded not to.....
Pedants Revolt!
Not as annoying as the word ICONIC. 👎
Who can now fix it for Huw??
My BBC license fee has ended today
Mine ended 8 years ago.
Lol why would you have ever paid it anyway ?
Should have been easy to pickup on it, He worked at the BBC. Whats the saying, He’s not the first and he most certainly won’t be the last.
I always got the impression that he thought he was more important than the news item or event.
Aww, he's blaming mental health for this. Typical.
Mental now coz he's been caught not mentally unwell before he got caught
💩 floats to the top..The more Edwards is looked at,the more of a vile monster we are seeing..I’m sure we’re hear how horrid he was to work with soon..
Moral of the story: don't get pr0n from some guy you met on social media and refuse any such offer. And if someone sends you anything illegal, however privately, you have to notify the police and CEOP immediately. Whatever the consequences may be, they have to be better than what's just happened to Edwards.
He knew what he was doing.
Exactly, if he didn't like it, he could have reported it.
He requested the pics and paid for them.
@@judithwilliams3147no. You’re confusing two sepatate stories. He paid a young man for pics of him.
In a separate conversation he was talking with someone else by the name of Alex something I think it was. This Alex person was sending him things, and then sent him illegal images, though Huw did tell him not to send anything illegal. He did not request those illegal pics.
I’m afraid comments like yours further disinformation and falsehoods, aka lies.
Get rid of the sunglasses. You are only wearing them because of embarrassment. You won't need them when you are in prison.
What's the betting there be replaced with a face mask in winter
I dont believe he showed any embarrassment. Disgusting pervert.
How was Huw’s November arrest only coming to light now? How was he able to keep it quiet for so long?
I'm sure we've been here before 🤔
Huw Edwards always came across as narcissistic, smug, and arrogant. He read off an autocue and added very little else with inane chat in between reading the autocue.
Best comment yet
Stop making excuses for him. What on earth is a "deeply consumed personality"? The reason people "behave in one way and present as something very different" is because they don't want to get caught.
I was wondering that too
The young person who was allegedly paid tens of thousands of pounds reached out to Edwards and instigated the whole thing. No offence was committed.
One of the most famous men in Britain, really! Christ on a bike!
How even the performatively humble can be humbled by their own hubris
Trusted figure who works for the BBC!
Surely that was parody?
Before Jane Garvey and Fi Glover left the BBC they had Edwards on their podcast 'Fortunately' and he was utterly unbearable and arrogant and impossible to listen to. It was obvious that Jane and Fi were struggling to like him.
I first thought he was a bit 'off' when I saw him on Would I Lie To You.
Just narcissist... Public Angel, private monster.
He’s not a boy from ‘nowhere’. He comes from a very well known and respected family in Welsh life. Such an English centric comment!
I think ‘nowhere’ to people likes this means anywhere outside of the M25😂😂😂
Hope licence payers are going to be recompense for all the money we have paid for his wages, this is an absolutely disgrace 😢
Why. You got what you.paid for the news fed to you
How do you know I watch bbc news
Pretty sure Andrew Billen said, 'deeply concealed personality' in regard to Huw Edwards . . . . NOT 'deeply consumed personality' - sorry but I did notice that your headline is probably incorrect? I may be wrong however?
concealed , you're right.
he looks and acted Pompous
It doesn’t say a lot for the standards of journalism at the BBC when Huw Edward’s was surrounded by them and not one picked up on him, or should I say, came forward.
In hindsight, he seems a deeply flawed and unpleasant individual. I expect his wife was very unhappy and is better off now without him. I feel so much for her and his daughters.
I think the headline should read 'deeply concealed personality'.
Poor Huw, what about the children?
Look @ the statue above broadcasting house FFS !
Oh how appalling!! Never thought that the arrogant rich and famous would end up like this .... wishing for more of these famous chaps get exposed ...
There's a kind of incestuous protectiveness coming from the rest of these anti journalists almost to acknowledge....'wow! I could be next '. ...damn them this is the old media most people have gone to the new media now ...
this is just people trying to make excuses for their colleagues. shamefully! He is s pervert. Pressure and all that does not cause one to look for images of children. You ARE trying to make it sound Ok; as he was the victim. Shame, shame, shame!
This guy isn’t trying to cover up. You didn’t listen
He'll have to think about his failures and hopefully reform rehabilitate in his majesty prisons and hopefully name names who else the bbc are covering up
Jimmy Saville , Rolf Harris , Gary Glitter , Huw Edwards all big names at the BBC , anybody see a pattern here ?
I've got mental health issues from being abused as a kid. I've never felt the need to look at child abuse images. He wasn't a normal working class lad either. The media class are repulsive and will always cover each others backs.
He definitely has other victims
Being famous clearly puts a serious stain on the human brain, and sadly innocents often suffer.
Ah the BBC. They can't spot one can they, yet they talk down to us.
Did this friend just say, "Huw was worried about how long he could stay Chief Anchor"? Or did he say or mean something slightly different?! Just clearing it up as it may be relevant to the forthcoming Court Case!
Wasn’t it ‘banker’
The BBC seems to specialise in "deeply consumed personalities" and like this piece illustrates how they explain it away with intellectual explanations and excuses... Ok Yaaah...?
Its comical the way they stammer through fear of how what they are saying may be recieved. And say "things he has plead to" instead of "things he has done".
What puzzles me is ,where did Huw Edward's get this guys phone number.?
dating app
Why do you keep cutting to blue-shirt guy scratching his ear and drinking water?
,"is it right that the BBC continuesd to pay him"? [sic]
Aaahhhh one of times great eternal question 😡😡😡😡🙄🙄🙄🙄
They were entitled to discipline him for breaking their own rules. The burden of proof in a disciplinary is REASONABLE BELIEF. Of course they’d have struggled to get him to meetings whilst submitting sick notes and hiding behind mental health issues. Problem with the BBC is they didn’t even try.
I must amend my comment now that the BBC have squeaked more information out: apparently they had started disciplinary proceedings and as a result of this he resigned. All ridiculously slow, but to be fair to them, ACAS friendly procedures can be slow. It actually puts the onus where it belongs- on an arrogant, entitled man who should have resigned in the first place.
The insecurity she speaks of is actually guilt
Their crimes are always blamed on mental health, other people's crimes are blamed on them not bwing native English but for them there's always a mental heath excuse
@@AdeleKakwandi is that really true, i'm not aware of other cases like this where the defence was mental health - who are you thinking of?
@@gareth2736 I'm thinking of all of them
@@AdeleKakwandi any names?
@@AdeleKakwandi yup I couldn't think of any specific cases either.
If he kept disgusting pictures
on Whatsapp he must have been sharing this information. Who else is being protected?
The presenter said that Huw pleaded guilty to viewing the images. But he didn’t plead guilty to any such crime.
I hate it when nonentities get their fifteen minutes of fame and try to claim, after having met him a couple of times, that they knew he was a wrong'un because he had a few glasses of champagne or, worse still, that he had a paranoid personality because he was worried about his job security, a not uncommon phenomenon. Worse still are the 'friends' who have abandoned him in his hour of disgrace. Such people are to be avoided at all costs.
Really? I'd be more inclined to avoid the friends who stood by him after this.
Do you have sympathy for him?
How many more at the BBC?
It shouldn’t matter if Huw felt untouchable. The issue is whether untouchable was old enough at the time
this can't be true-his lawyer,the BBC and some of his colleagues insisted he's not just of sound character,he's actually a really special guy!!
It's the others that are in our faces now on television
Yet little do we know what they are truly doing
That could be said of all people in all walks of life.
Why do the BBC pay their presenters so much more than the UK prime minister is crazy,now more people refuse to pay,its backfired
Do we think he repressed his nature until lockdown or was he always doing stuff like this?
He said he was "deeply concealed" not "consumed"
Sad he did this .He has let us all down . He s a very good news reader But no more
7:34 He did what? 'Pled' guilty? No, he 'pleaded guilty'.
I’m not paying my tv licence no more. Enough is enough far too much scandal and the fact half the 20,000 employees aren’t needed. I’m out 😂🎉🎉🎉
What is "deeply consumed personality"?
People like Edwards think they are the Untouchables
Oh please 🙄 no wonder he was paranoid ffs 🤦♀️
What cha this space. There are numerous other people who are treated as idols by the gullible public who are no better.
Why do they keep moving to a presenter who is sitting there with headphones on but have nothing to contribute?
Insecurity?mental health?didnt see that when he went to court...............what ON earth are you on about!!
Why was he taken away in an expensive car? Don't get me wrong, he must be on the brink but that car journey would have cost a packet. He's guilty and is still receiving privileges.
Watch out watch out the BBC’s about
I saw him on the program Would I Lie to you and thought he came across as aloof / arrogant. 6 glasses a champagne and presents the news that night. That's fair goin. I'd be happy to get home an watch the news. 😂
From a safety first POV maybe everyone at the BBC - everyone who is considered to have star quality - just need to be let go - and then rebuild from scratch. Many of them are not half as talented or treasured as they think they are (or don't ).
As for Huw Edwards I hope his 'national treasure' trusted status position is factored into his sentencing - in that he receives a much harsher sentence than otherwise. 10 years at least might sent a message. 20 years if there's justice --or life?