Kirsten Kluyts Murder I Accused Bafana Mahungela's bail hearing - court proceedings
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ธ.ค. 2023
- The bail hearing of 21-year-old student Bafana Mahungela is continuing in the Alexandra Magistrate's Court.
He is accused of the pre-meditated rape and murder of Johannesburg teacher Kirsten Kluyts.
The 34-year-old English teacher at Delta Park High School was murdered while taking part in a local sporting event in October.
Mahungela was arrested at a student residence at Varsity College in Sandton last month.
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You did not want to be involved with the police, but you stripped a dead woman of her clothes! What did you think you were getting involved with!
Exactly!!!
Strange
Exactly my pont
🤷🏽♀️period!
Hi fucken crazy...human being does not play around a dead person, we are very scared of that...that's natural to us. Part of the respect maybe. Stripping was the worst case of disgracing this woman. Evidence is clear, he killed her that it.
Going the extra mile of even taking her pants out was just too much , this boy really knows exactly what happened to this woman
Thank you
Exactly bad boy he knows something about this boy
He is evil
Drugs is a serious problem 😢
Was afraid to call the police bt wasnt aftraid to undress a dead body🤷♀️😒😒😒
Hmmm beats me
Ok. Hjm
Ionly 😊
😊😊
🤔🤔🤔🤔
Strange and demonic
They should check his social media history, pictures, videos he liked. Internet searches. It can help to know what he thinks about.
They probably do that. This is just the bail application hearing.
Thank you
He posted something joking about using chloroform go get girls to go home with him.
True,,I just don't trust him,,Thabo Bester no 2
@@dineomalope3602 is he too into girls?
He is not speaking the truth.he was not scared to take of her clothes.but was scared to alert someone of a dead corpse.he is holding back with a lot more
Some people watch too much true crime stories. No one who is not guilty ever decides to remove a dead body's clothes in a attempt to exonerate from the possibility of being blamed for a crime they did not commit. The act of attempting to even remove a dead body's clothes is crazy, even in a moment of panic, it's still crazy. He is just playing with people's emotions by acting smart; quite narcissistic.
Sis Noma would have advise to at least report the crime anonymously
Drugs destroying our youth 😢😢
Scared of prison, but not scared of stripping clothes from a dead person ?
What I’m hearing him say is, he initially approached the body to check for signs of life. Upon his “investigation” found that it was indeed diseased. He then panics, thinking that after his investigation he might have left his DNA. He removes what he thought might have had his DNA and then flees fearing being implicated in something he wasn’t involved in.
IT’S A LOT!
Our justice system has failed many innocent people and the fear of such happening to himself might have driven him to this demise. He might have been a victim of fear and panic and acted irrationally because of it.
Please hear me well, I am by no means saying he is innocent.
I pray justice is served for everyone involved…though true justice would have had this whole ordeal not happened at all😢.
DNA is gonna prove if he's guilty or not
Helping ppl by hurting them and telling lies.This boy is very arrogant
You find a dead body and strip the body naked steal the clothes? This boy must take responsibility for this murder
I do agree with you, it does not make sense that you would find a dead body than you decide to strip it naked and even go to the extent of wearing the deceased's t-shirt. Unless just like the state's attorney is referring that there might be something wrong with this guy's mental state.
Listen to the story before you talk
@@TheResistance-gn1voJust shows this sick Culture
@@TheResistance-gn1vo Please share the story of why he wore her T-shirt and what happened to his TShirt. I listened to the story as you advised the other person but didn't find that part. Enlighten us before we further talk
@@avelakhoza6140 The problem is we are reasoning like normal people sitting at home watching movies or Netflix eating popcorn. Put yourself in his shoes. As a man. Black young man. What would you do? If you touched a body of a dead person that you discovered. At that specific moment a lot of things will be running through your head. He acted very childish by running away from the scene. But the point still stands that STATE does not have concrete evidence to prove that he did it.
This boy knows something. You can't approach someone lying down with the aim of helping but you fail to complete your kindness by calling out for help on the spot. He was only concerned about his DNA found on the scene which he tried to conceal by removing clothes from the victim. What he was not aware of was there were cameras that succeeded in placing him at the crime scene.
For sure he knows something. Why undressed a body? What curiosity is this ???
Very guilty this one, so sad may her soul rest in peace
This boy has a smart phone ,he couldn't just record on his phone after stepping on the bag. Who checks pulse heat beat then wear the deceased clothes. Foolishness
Then the cameras should be able to see if he was the one who killed her
Precisely!!!!..... He knows something
He’s acting confident so that he does not look guilty….
Too much dear
This guy knows something.
It’s impossible to see someone’s lifeless body in the streets and undress them 😢.
Attitude stinks
@ExploreLifeWithVee-eo4mp Agree really attitude even the way he answers
He basically defeated the ends of justice, taking her clothes is a crime🤷 and not reporting it. He will definitely do time
Yep. Judges don't care for "emotions" and only care for facts and evidence.
Definitely deserves a few years in even just for that before we get to the guilty part or the fact he thinks all this is funny
I dont like his smile,the taking of clothes,the drain,Lord what happened
Lo mntwana does not have respect at all....he's panicking as if he wants all this to pass...does not feel anthing for the victims family!!!
Who wouldn't be panicking in this situation? Such murders are committed by hardened criminals unless its a mistake. This boy clearly doesn't have a criminal mind. I honestly think he got himself in the middle of a crime he didn't commit and doesn't even understand how to handle the whole thing...
I was thinking the same thing. He is not acting like an innocent person and he has such an attitude.
Why would he only inform his fren 2days afr it happened nd why did he not inform the cops yo this guy is a lair
The illiteracy in South African lawyers is crazy!!!😂
😂😂😂 hai
There is something wrong here...he should be taken for psychological assessment...drug use...why is CCV footage not complete
CCTV footage kinda fishy😢
I've never seen a guy like this one who speaks for himself, not a lawyer, and talks everything about the murder
U can represent yoself, u just don't watch court cases enough.
but the boy has a lawyer@@thibadoh
@katethagane doesnt the accused get cross examined even he does or doesnt have a lawyer?
its called cross-examination
He's lying. The first thing one cdoes is to inform the next person or persons immediately, not to cover up your dna so that you are not linked to the crime.
Oooo.....his lying
He left his dna in her naked body. When you undress the person you touch the skin
Man; why would you even undress the lifeless body you just found? And if you check it; Bafana was following that lady
Why did he dispose the clothes ?
This is a very interesting case
Hold on... the father of the accused was informed about the body and did not advise his son??!
Hayii this whole story is not make sure
Eish…this is a difficult case!
This is a young BLACK MAN, in question of the murder of YOUNG WHITE PROFESSIONAL FEMALE. After listening to his son, considering the latter and taking into consideration our questionable justice system, he might have thought his son stood no chance of walking away free.
He too like his son might have been overwhelmed with fear and panic hence they’d consulted a contact they knew in law enforcement for legal advice.
He to me seems like a father who believes his son is innocent and wouldn’t want him to form part of the statistic of men wrongfully arrested.
This boy is guilty, when you see a dead body you just report to the police first... Imagine wearing clothes of dead person
Unless you're cold-blooded.
A dead woman whom you also don't even know
So He Got To Res And Told Other People But Not The Police, The Issue Of Also Wearing The Deceased Clothes Is Also Tarnishing His Whole Story
The fact he told some people proves dat he has nothing to do with this murder
And the fact that NON of those people told him to go to the police.. or maybe its because he said he removed “his evidence” they thought it will never link to him ey bandla!
@@thandothabethe3465 it does not prove such at all
But undressing the deceased and wearing her clothes
@@thandothabethe3465 The people he supposedly told probably don't even exist.
My brother also goes to varsity collage after he told me about this guy I was in pure shock with the thought of how many times my brother had walked past him on campus.
This boy did this but there could be a mastermind....the partner should also be questioned....
You might be correct,.. maybe it is the same reason the prosecution is asking him who else he told what he saw
This lawyer's questions are repeated like 10 times, it's like he wants him to say something different 😢
Thats the procedure
That's what Law advantages them If they want the one asked to be clear or incriminate themselves. Mostly its for making sure your story is either changing or same.
They do it deliberately.
@@nicholussibusisovilakazi951 you are correct. if they ask the same thing over and over they are testing if your answer will be the same every time. it is a type of test of truth. a person who is honest will say the same thing every time. a person who lies may not be able to remember the lies so the story may change with each question.
@@gudanialicia7079you don’t know anything about procedure
Who brought the blanket to the crime scene.
So far, there’s no really much to say if he’s guilty or not. But where I don’t understand is why would you take the clothes of someone dead? Why would you even approach it ? With everything happening nowadays with murder etc. I’ll just walk away. Bro, I’ll freak out!
That the only thing that is making him suspicious that if he got to extend of taking the clothes, he might at least know what happened to her if he did not do it smh
Im in limbo with his testimony. DNA and video would prove if he's guilty or not.
@@phumlamazibuko3003 may the justice does it job. I don’t think anyone deserves to be taken their life or neither freedom away from them when they not guilty.
Maybe it's adrenaline, u want ro believe him but the clothes story is puzzling me
Mina ngithuswa indaba yezimpahla mina gyz nithi ubone isidumbu azihambela wafike wasikhumula izimpahla waylzifaka ku drain😮 ,Uthe Why azmkhulile ?
@@sontovero3404So puzzling, to just undress a corpse and wear some of those clothes!
this is very confusing and sad at the same time
speechless
I won't lie, when I first heard this story I thought he did it and is lying about it but now I'm actually starting to think he might be telling the truth and is innocent...crazy how different human beings have different responses to situations
He's lying to his teeth. He did it.
We all react differently it's true. He was traumatised and his mind was not thinking straight at that moment of time. He's a very young confident person and I do agree with you that he seems to be telling the truth. He was just at wrong place at the wrong time.
@@fionandlovu5104it's so said that the court won't take that in to consideration..at least give the benefit of the doubt that's the least they could do...he did commit the crime when he took the clothes off and I heard the autopsy report states that the deceased was not raped
I understand dealing with trauma differently, but going to extremes such as taking off the clothes of a deceased???
How did you come to that conclusion
Police investigators are very lousy. Most people have their history location turned on, and that is all they have to check to find his timeline. Checking towers connected to does not give you much information.
His location is not in doubt or debated. He confirmed he was there, saw the body. Touched it and wore the deceased's t-shirt.
@@omphilemoroe4217 the state brought up the issue of towers. Pictures with shadows and the others without shadows brought doubts that the state could not answer. The history location could easily have solved that. We saw the same thing in Senzo case, if they went to google history they could easily have placed where the accused were on that day.
This boy remove and wear the clothes of a dead person this is crazy
Aii boy for the fact that u removed her clothes? Why did u do it? Why did u approach her? Why didn't u call for help? Even if u haven't done it.... u have creminated urself. Listen careful before u answer
there was actually cctv footage showing him walking behind the teacher.
If he really commited the crime i don't think he would've told his friends
Well, people commit crimes daily and do inform their friends/relatives. That's how some get caught.
@@jobesithole5590 people even post it online. the thing with many killers is that they see their "work" as an achievement. and humans in general like to tell people of their achievements.
Criminals talk about things they have just done to their friends and girlfriends. It happens all the time.
but why did he not tell them immediately. HE was thinking about what to say, how he would play this whole thing out.
@@casualSimRacer3312 even that comedian that went to report his wife missing.
Cant they look at the CCTV times and the time of death so that they can determine this matter
I'm stuck between a rock and a hard wall,this boy's story is very delicate.
Delicate because he's black? He's guilty. He's a monster.
South African black prosecutors 😢😢😢
I would ask better questions without wasting years getting a law degree
The blinking 😮
Blinking like a liar. He is acting this one
I think he wanted to cry and holding up tears
I don’t believe this boy ,you see something strange why not calling security if you are so curious or as he said I didn’t want to be involved why not run away not even get closer.This boy is very clever he knew he will stand in this box and answer this is how he prepared himself
And he knew he could play the white black race card when in fact whites are the most discriminated minority group in this country
He learned from eff to play the race card when all else fails
Doesn't come across as a clever guy to me. I honestly believe he didn't commit the crime. However, there is a lot of loopholes in his story.
True the boy is lawyer
So true, he should have just run and not touch anything. Why he was so brazen to get closer and not ask for medical assistance or the police. Pure evil
He had 4 weeks to prepare before police showed up
If this case was in America, it would have been solved by now very quickly, so are other cases in South Africa, justice system here sucks
Only if you new 😂😂I prefer SA than America.
Go to America then.
We are not Americans but South Africans doing it our way.
Because they buy degrees here
@@sev3n604 they only have matric
In USA it could have resulted into a hang jury, and he would walk free.
Lord please give both families the strength... innocent till proven guilty
GUILTY CRIMINAL. This is the face of a serial killer
😢eyi
This one is guilty never been innocent
Guilty guilty
The lawyer’s English is confusing this boy 😅
Not true
This boy is not confused at all
True
Why Strip and wear though
Who took the picture, of that boy, seems like someone knew about the lady before the boy arrives at the seen who took the photo?
There was cameras around the place
So he sees the ladies dead body, takes off her clothes, 2 days later tells Nomar?and other students? If that doesn't spell GUILT than what does? Scared of Prison but wears a Dead person's clothes? Cumon if your an adult with a brain u can't even question the timline and evidence.
He didn't do it justice for Bafana
Then why wear her clothes
You must be arrested then, you know who did it
The arrogance
How this lawyer is asking him if hes right in his head?
My heart breaks for this child
Because he's black it's so sad 😂😂😂
Doesnt SA have forensics and what happened to the CCTV footage
Iv never seen any1 being questioned during bail hearing not unless I'm missing something...
And who's the gentleman who's addressing the court robeless?
Lawyer or prosecutor?
This is what I’m asking?? Cross questioning during a bail hearing?? Am I missing something…🤦🏽♀️ guilty or not surely an accused will implicate themselves! The law should be upheld & the rights of everyone involved protected!!
He had a choice to either submit an affidavit or testify verbally. I can honestly say that verbal testimony makes him seem more candid and honest.
@@RaineJizzle Thats exactly what I was saying, He appears more innocent now
That boy killed nobody. No way!!
Witchcraft 😢
Theres alot going on here. What he did with the clothes really puts him in trouble...but as someone who's been in trouble before, I can understand why taking the clothes of was justified in his head at the time. GBV is a serious crime in this country, if what he's saying is true (that he didnt do it) , I can see why taking the clothes off is a lesser crime than ending up being charged with murder. Motive? DNA? Close Family/Friends...Perhaps the father of the unborn baby...was there an affair. INVESTIGATE!
And the wearing of the deceased 5-Tshirt, what would be your take on that? What happened to his own TShirt maybe?
Yeah I'm also questioning the motive... affair maybe?Why did he target her specifically, did he know her prior to this. It's a lot
@@avelakhoza6140His reason for taking out the deceased clothes was for him not to be associated with the murder through finger prints and then wore the deceased top.
@@MirriamSofe-yj9pq I heard the reason for taking the deceased clothes Sis, I'm trying to understand his reason for wearing the T-shirt if you got my first comment. How's wearing the TShirt an effort of getting rid of fingerprints? I need someone who can help me understand this part, like make it make sense on my lousy mind.
@@avelakhoza6140 Ok my 👼 you don't have a lousy mind! Maybe we need to reflect and also put inputs by all concerned parties,ourselves included.Some blame high drug consumption at the 🎉,remember he was from a 🎉.Listening to him,remember he overturned the body,maybe even holding her legs.He thought she was maybe unconscious because according to him there were no outside injuries except what seem like strangulation in his answer to the judge.She even asked him to demonstrate because she too couldn't understand how the body was turned over.Im with you,he said he then used the back of his hands to check for pulse on the neck as well as using his ears to check for breathing! That's his explanation to the judge.The blue shirt which belong to the deceased as well as the pants(not panty) were then taken to be thrown in the drain.Sorry he wore the shirt because he used the black one he wore to put everything at the crime scene inside it,before disposing in the drain of following streets in the neighborhood.
A white mail concerned citizen has cleared the air about alleged boyfriend/ husband.Apparently the deceased used IVF procedure to impregnate herself.DNA too is now out of question as both SAP&NPA jumped the 🔫 and made unfounded claims by saying they're waiting for DNA results when in actual fact she wasn't even raped!
Putting clothes in a drain? 😯 but why would you do that.
Tempering with Evidence is what all Innocent people do right? Oops no....Guilty!
An unblushing liar....very intelligent and manipulating the justice system. He even says, " so many people hi are in jail for crimes they did not commit ". That line shows he knows how weak SA justice system is. Very dangerous , manipulative and cool cat.!
Yes he very deep this boy yhoooo ,
Very smart the boy is a serial killer he prepared for this if you can chck Danny madonza's podcast about his history you'll be shocked
Loyiso and Zwai Bala both have that involuntary blink; one of the tics associated with Tourette syndrome. So leave that one out as a sign of lying.
Pure lies out of this student 😢
He knows something!
He called a lawyer because he wanted advice 😮
He is going to jail this one
When it comes to murder they'll be arguing circumstantial evidence. There's no direct evidence leading this lad to the murder offence. So there's not only one inference to be drawn.
I think he did it ,why did he reach to an extent of removing the deceased 's clothes including pants
Lendoda engu Mmeli iseyi student yazi futhi iyafana nale eyayibuza u Malema imibizo owodwa nje 🚮
Y'all should stop playing this boy didn't do that .... police need to do their work professionally...when they don't have a lead they take anything which Is wrong
Taking off clothes of a dead body makes him guilty. Was he not thinking of being spotted while taking off the clothes? Wasn’t that going to make him guilty? No man this boy is guilty. Rather call out for help explain that u thought u found her dead and ur prints were on her because u touched her trying to see if she was dead or passed out. Taking off the clothes 🧐
Absolutely true,why on earth he was taking her clothes off, there's no way you would do that, you will called the police or tell someone,and you will be scared, this boy know what happened,he he thought he was clever, but unfortunately
The nerves of taking off clothes to a dead body you don't know what happened tjoooo.! Yes me I can go closer to look what is thing but touching and removing clothes No gyz
Is the attorney questioning neutral , against the boy or with ?
Because the questions his asking are making him guilty.
Exactly!
This boy undressing dead person of her clothes what came into his mind when doing that,He can work at the mutuary he is so brave.
His story is not adding up and I am sure he can also see that. There’s more to the story . Who undresses a dead body? If he really stumbled upon it the minute he touched that rack or sack that should’ve shook him and ran for his life and got help? Who undresses a dead body and goes home/ student residency or whatever and keeps quiet for two days and not tell a soul even if it was to call his parents if he didn’t want to be involved with the authorities at first. I also don’t think people should play the race card here. The comfortability of undressing the deceased and then wears the clothing that’s disturbing but hopefully both sides get the justice deserved.
What I’m hearing him say is, he initially approached the body to check for signs of life. Upon his “investigation” found that it was indeed diseased. He then panics, thinking that after his investigation he might have left his DNA. He removes what he thought might have had his DNA and then flees fearing being implicated in something he wasn’t involved in.
IT’S A LOT!
Our justice system has failed many innocent people and the fear of such happening to himself might have driven him to this demise. He might have been a victim of fear and panic and acted irrationally because of it.
Please hear me well, I am by no means saying he is innocent.
I pray justice is served for everyone involved…though true justice would have had this whole ordeal not happened at all😢.
My heart bleeds for this young man 😢
I understand but he did some f****d moves😢. He is guilty
The audacity of removing a dead body clothes,speaks volume 😢
I feel sorry for him 😢
Just listen. "You guys " Highly disrespectful.
What about the lady that was murdered?? Your heart doesn't bleed for her, you see a dead person & you don't report it, instead you undress them then go to the restaurant asking for prices so you can bring your gf on a date are you serious? So you get rid of the clothes becoz of DNA but what about the body are you not touching it when removing the clothes, so you not leaving your DNA on the body??
You see a dead body and the first thing that comes to mind is cover up, instead of calling for help 🤔
Mind baffled
Even more shocking is the few comments thinking its actually a sensible thing to do
I'm so confused right now😮
This boy is trying to be smart but he appears to be guilty let us wait and see phela icala li umphikwa , where did he get guts to touch a body of a person you don't know first thing he was supposed to shout for help.
I asked myself the same question.....phela when you see someone lying in that state, you try call them to see if they respond and if not you call officials, they'll determine if the person is alive or not.....but then people don't react the same. I really hope that the truth comes out here, we don't want him to do time for something he ddnt do
He's not trying to be smart he is smart duh
Something is not adding up.
Why take off her clothes???
Body language says it all😢
I also want to believe his story but the body language is just suspicious.He looks shaken
What does it say?
@@julietkaunda9600 wouldn't you be Shaken to stand in the box
@@thobaniamen8105 If innocent I wouldn't coz truth will prevail at the end
Eyes says a lot
This guy is guilty 😔 😢. How can you hide clothes, after witnessing then keep quiet! This guy is a lier and as a man who studied philosophy: psychology and counseling, i deem him untruthful.
He says the cops beat him but maybe Kirsten was trying to defend herself and left some marks
This thing of having wrong friends... Now his friend will have to come to court to testify
😂😂😂😂😂
Yazini💔🚮
Taking off someone clothes and even wearing them to hide the evidence of what look like an evidence make sense big time,because we know very well that other people will even kill a witness just to protect their arrest. 😢
Mmmh this boy I don't even understand why he undress the deceased
What I’m hearing him say is, he initially approached the body to check for signs of life. Upon his “investigation” found that it was indeed diseased. He then panics, thinking that after his investigation he might have left his DNA. He removes what he thought might have had his DNA and then flees fearing being implicated in something he wasn’t involved in.
IT’S A LOT!
I pray justice is served for everyone involved…though true justice would have had this whole ordeal not happened at all😢.
That's exactly what he said my 👼
I thought of this before h even said it.Inwould do that as well but as for wearing the clothes I'm not sure.... although by wearing the clothes I think he didn't wanna be seen holding them
@@klentjie those were his exact reasons, sis. He feared our justice system and the panic made act irrationally😩
But why did he wear the t shirt and sunglasses??
@@unathiliwani2532 it might have been for disguise 🤷🏽♀️…I’m just speculating here. It’s still early days into the case, more might unfold.
I think this boy's age says a lot about the actions he supposedly took. Being his age and seeing a dead body might have put his conscious all over. I'm not saying he's guilty or innocent, but at this point, something tells me he might have made a bad judgment out of trauma. Anyway, since she was allegedly sexually assaulted, that DNA might not crack the case(as we all know SA justice system) but might help pull a verdict for him. Unless he might have found her dead already, then got arroused while taking her clothes off.....Hai kunzima!!!!
I hear you but why wear her T-shirt, what happened to his?
Why wearing her clothes,he is confused
@@zanelecynthia That explanation doesn't make sense Sis, you know that already. If this guy didn't kill the lady, he must still be sent for psychological evaluation. We meet confused people on a daily, the reaction he took is disturbing. Taking clothes out of panic, maybe yes. Wearing it,No! Not normal, even under a confused state of mind, unless he has a mental illness.
@@avelakhoza6140good❤
@@avelakhoza6140 ey sisi kuningi!
Looking at his narrative he’d wrapped her clothing with his own shirt and probably fearing walking about half dressed himself in the street, opted to wear hers 🤷🏽♀️. Remember, he too walked by and discovered her body…the next person would too and if the same person had seen him walking around half dressed and also discover her body, they’d for sure assume he’d raped and killed her.
I’m just speculating. If he’s really telling the truth, he truly was a victim of fear and panic and was driven to act irrationally.
Im also not convinced yet, that he is guilty
so far he is guilty of tampering with evidence and theft but we are yet to see if he is guilty of murder or not
This young man thinks he's clever but jail is waiting for him
This accused is a liar and a killer. He must not be granted bail.
Why would he remove her clothing if he was not guilty? Common sense why remove her clothing and discarded it in a drain? If he did not commit the crime why did he not keep the clothing for the police?
He is bold . He was the first and the only one at the crime scene. He didn't not record the crime . He is a joke and very silly. He think is above the law
He makes me sick. Who undresses the dead body? So disrespectful and cold!
Liar liar liar liar 😢
In general he looks neat, communicates in English well. Not the typical Tsotsi who can barely speak English, and looks like he crawled from a gutter. Not saying he is not a punk! Just that I notice that he doesn't look like the typical thug we see in SA courts.
He's a psychopath who believes his own lies. Just gutta figure out where he found the blanket? How many other finger prints are on the items he stole and the deceased coz if there's one more then it's the perpetrator or his own
Jeffery Dahmer was all that too smh lucky we dont have people like you running the justice system
Remember the case of Tshegofatso Pule? How the bf cried claiming he hasn't seen Tshegofatso for a week only to find out he's the 1 hu planned her murder 😢This Bafana is a cold liar it's a matter of time before he is jailed for life !
OMW! What is this? What ever happened to lawyers saying "Objection" when in disagreements? Also how can you ask the suspect who will be called as witnesses or if he will be calling his girl friend to testify? This is a joke! These court officials need to watch more TV about court behavior- this is ridiculous! The colleague is jumping up and down OMW! this is not a court guys! This is madness! If this is the bail hearing, I will write off the actual court proceedings! This kid has lots of attitude too and seems to be allowed to have it!
U r watching too much American Tv shows
Bail hearing is different from trial
OMW! U STUPID
Hi did it I can see he must root in jail this busted
I agree, his eyes r v busy.... Yet his so cute
Why is he smiling? Does he think this is funny? Too confident, not even empathy, and who steals a dead women’s clothes? I don’t see him wearing women’s clothes now?
Esh💔myb her boyfriend/husband did this the guy waz at the wrong place nkocyam🥺
It might be bcz even the autopsy says she wasn't raped STATE must come up wt enough evidence to convince the court nd by da way dis won't be a fair bail bcz f a White judge......
Taking off the deceased clothes it's a shock of ones life 😢
Hmmm this is so sad 21 killing 34 whats going on 😒 if its true imimoya kaSatane le😢
How sure are you that he killed her?
Deeply troubling case. Without blaming parents but can this generation do better in raising children. Boys are becoming young thugs while girls are liker of things who sell their bodies to the highest bidder and are glorified daily for " securing the bag ".
@@mokejanecalvinmaloma4802 I didn't say he killed her please I said if it's true imimoya kasatane,read and understand please please 🙏
@@mokejanecalvinmaloma4802 why did he strip the dead women for her clothes
@@jobesithole5590it has always been like that for the past generations ,it's not starting with this generation ,otherwise if that's the case why there are 60 year old prisoners and prostitutes,parents can only do so much,he is 21 he was raised better ,they didn't send them to do whatever he is accused of.
Is this a trial or a bail hearing?
This boy is gone.
Please people do not judge. Do you know what shock can do to a person. Again mental condition is another factor when you were traumatised when you were a child.
But it is something else, to rob a corpse.
Where did the rack that covered the body came from.?