Growing in Straw WITHOUT Conditioning
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.ค. 2019
- In this video I discuss growing in hay or straw without conditioning the bales. Does bale gardening without conditioning work? Why?
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Thanks Opie for all your advice. I am beginning to see results for my efforts.
I don't like doing homework!😆
Yeah, I can't believe people would jump into this without doing some research. Just planting right into a bale? That's crazy talk.
Get that info out there Oppe!👍
Amen!
I can't believe I missed this. I had a few tell me that I didn't have to condition my bales but I will stick with what has worked for me so far.
This is what happened to me the first time I tried straw bales gardening. But after watching all of your videos, I know better! Thanks for dropping some knowledgeable in your videos.
Right. It's a very common problem for first time bale gardeners. I have had a few people get angry with me for pointing it out to them so I thought it would be best to make a neutral video that explains what's happening and the importance of conditioning. LOL...that way I can just send them the link and maybe avoid getting yelled at. I think that once people understand the process and why it's so important they are far more accepting. I really hope those people try it again and have the best gardens ever.
Great information Oppe. Definitely good for beginners to know.
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Preach it Opie! Your videos were very helpful in my first attempt at bale gardening! My biggest problems this year was starting late and a little fertilizer mishap. Suggestion for a video for next year: "How to deal with light bales". Two of my bales had about half the straw of others and did not condition as well as the others until I walked on top of them to compress them down a bit.. Next year I will step those bales down early so they compost correctly. Keep up the good work!
That's a great idea. I will definitely have to cover that. I know at least two other people who had the same problem this year.
Preach it brother! It is always someone else fault for the failures! Had one that kept pouring fertilizer on her bales to conditioning well after time to quit then planted her plants in it. You could see a ton of white fertilizer sitting on top so it cooked all her plants. She reported me to FB saying I destroyed her garden and tried to get me kicked out of FB. Now that took the cake.. LMBO. I see so many that DO NOT watch the step by step videos and do their own thing then come running asking what happen? I did it like you told me to! NOPE YOU DID NOT! Awesome advice my friend. Good luck and hope you have a great week!
Some people.........I tell ya'.......
CB's Greenhouse and Garden you are spot on I’m tired of trying to explain why I condition like I do!
Thank you so much!
Love the idea of the straw bale! Thinking about trying it next year maybe 🤔
I encourage anyone who is on the fence about it to pick up two or three bales for their first try. However, I generally find that most gardeners expand their bale garden greatly on their next try. LOL
Great video, I had one out of 8 that didn't condition right. Moved the plants and did two-weeks on it and it was fine
It seems that if the bales are loose to begin with the conditioning process isn't as effective.
Point well made thank you. ❤️🌱
Yes! The only way I can see to avoid conditioning with nitrogen would be to buy the bales end of summer, set them up and leave them all winter, but only in a climate where you had adequate rain/snowfall.
Exactly :-)
I'll blame whoever I want for my failures 😄. Like any kind of gardening if you research and do the work your garden will grow plentiful, if you just half do it you will see way more failures! Set them straight Oppe!
Exactly!
Great point! I have a friend who is a master gardener. When I told him I was doing straw bales gardening he was adamant that it wouldn’t work. I have video proof that it does :) he is now considering trying a bale or two for fall garden. All thanks to you and Linda and your videos :)
Awe,...I love to hear that!!
Oppe - Great info to have. I have never tried straw bale but am curious. It's obvious that straw bales don't have the same macro & micro nutrients as soil. Seems a no brainer. How many years does a bale last for planting?
You can probably get two full growing seasons out of a bale. However, I use fresh bales every year and put the old used bales into my lasagna gardens. They are so fertile that my lasagna gardens are the best growing gardens I have. So really the straw stays in the garden(s) permanently.
I did my homework and decided that conditioning was too much work. So I built raised beds, lol. Wow was that a lot of work! Hahaha.
Haha...right? I have built many raised beds and they really are a lot of work. Filling them with soil can be pricey too!
@@BrewCityGardener yes filling them was about $20 a bed. I had a good landscaping place that was reasonable. But they will pay for themselves in the long run.
First year straw bale gardening. Started conditioning before we were out of freezing/frost weather, couldn’t warm up my water, and haven’t had any heat in my bales. Bales have been sitting out in the garden space for little over a month and when we opened up a non-conditioned bale it was somewhat slimy inside (needed for other purposes). Would you recommend starting the conditioning process over? Or do you think these should be good to start planting in? Current plan is to condition at 1/2 cup 46-0-0 every other day for a week and try to get some heat, then plant.
If the bales have already been through the conditioning process then you do not have to condition them again. The bales will not always heat up. However, they will still work great for growing plants. The slimey consistency inside the bales is exactly what you are looking for. That's a good sign that they are ready to grow. If they start sprouting mushrooms as the weather warms up then you know they are really good to go. It sounds to me like your bales are ready to plant as soon as the weather is right for your location and desired crops.
Good luck and happy gardening!
I put out bales last year, can I just top off with soil and plant seeds?
If they have been weathered for a year they should be good to plant in. You don't need to top with soil but you can if you want to.
Happy gardening!
Yep, if you want to grow in straw bales you have to watch Brew City Gardener. If you're thinking about growing in straw bales you really need to do a little homework.
Okay hear me out... what if I use unconditioned bails, but I'm using a hydroponic nutrient to feed it. So you get two birds one stone. Just grow something you're willing to loose bounus nitrogen if you loose it.
This might work if you foliar feed only. However your yield will suffer greatly. If you add hydro nutrients to the bales it will trigger the conditioning process (composting). This will steal all the available nitrogen and cause the bales to heat up too much and damaging the roots. That would likely kill your plants.
@@BrewCityGardener nah I wanna grow extra nitrogen for the bacteria and have the plants die on purpose... like a cover crop.