Phil is so right about this!! These kids in many cases are not only being paid to play football - they are getting FREE college scholarships to get degrees in professional fields. So if they get hurt, or they fail in the pros or don’t make it in the pros, they get a damn college degree they can either further, or they use to get a good paying career. Like stop with this. These kids are the top tier athletes in our country. And it’s the top tier out of those kids that go pro - either way these kids get full boat free rides to attend multi billion dollar universities because they’re good at a sport…
I knew.... unequivocally.... two years ago.... when Mike sat next to me... in this stadium..... after his Patriots.... hall of fame induction.... that he was... the right guy for the job.... yet again.... we will rely on... falling back on.... nepotism.... while pretending to interview..... other candidates.... for better PR.... We also.... built a new lighthouse....
@@YoureNotReet I think Vrabel is gonna get the job and to be honest, I wouldn't be upset by that but it still kind of feels like more of the same, like the Krafts aren't willing to move on to something new. (except a new lighthouse 😉)
I wasn’t bothered by the two interviews that satisfied the Rooney rule because I believe they did that to have the freedom to hire whomever they wanted on the spot if it came up. For instance, if they fell in love with Vrabel and didn’t want him to leave the building- it’s unrealistic to expect them to wait until more desirable targets like Flores or Glenn were available in person.
Maybe yes and maybe they just haven’t interviewed someone in over 25 years for head coach. You do get rusty. Plus Eliot Wolf to my knowledge has never interviewed a head coach before. Also in addition they could be guys Mike Vrabel has talked about for staff spots!
@@elizabeth9674Plus Phil Perry CLEARLY stated they’ve reached out to Aaron Glen, who is by far the top minority candidate! Curren also said they are wanting to talk to Flores, but they can’t even put a request in to talk to him until the Vikings season is over!
@@DMKFACTOR yes! And i hope they get the opportunity to hear both Ben and Aaron but if they find themselves in a situation where they don’t want Vrabel to do anymore interviews I’m okay with them putting themselves in a position to hire him on the spot (which they could only do with the people who were available to interview in person.)
@ Right, and all working coordinators and coaches CANNOT interview in person until January 20th only if their team is eliminated. They’re going to have to wait until after at least championship weekend to meet with Glen or Johnson. This team needs a complete organizational wide rebuild along with the players on the field. They want to get someone in here with a plan to rebuild it NOW! My only concern with guys like Johnson and Glen is you have to have the organization built to support them. A guy like Vrabel can BUILD the organization around him! He has the experience needed for the job. Also on the Ben Johnson front, he’s kind of an introvert. He likes to be behind closed doors working on all his plays. That won’t work here, need someone that is present and able to multitask. Not sure a first time head coach can do all of what the Krafts need. They are complete hands off owners, and thats why last year was a mess. They aren’t football people, they had Bill for 25 years to run everything. He’s the one that controlled everything including the spending!
The old fart with the white beard is such a know it all and knows nothing drunk at the end of ths bar. Hire Nick Cattles for some needed intelligence and truth.
Omg just do it already and put me out of my misery 😂 I think it’s a great hire tbh! And imo it’ll make the Pats immediate contenders (considering it looks like they hit on QB which is the hard part), which I REALLY don’t like as a Bills fan… just being honest, and I hate that NE did it the right way while Jets & Phins sold their futures trying to buy good teams. Just hire Vrabel, yall know damn well he’s a much better candidate than anyone else 🙄🥺😂
@@sarahchristine2345 sometimes the hardest part about being a pats fan is other pats fans…. We’ve been ludicrously successful for 20 years and they think that makes them an expert. If we go into the offseason with Vrabel, Josh and Saleh as our coaches I’ll be crossing the days off the calendar until training camp. P.S. I’m rooting for you guys to take the Lombardi this year.
The fact that Tom Pelleciro reported that part owner Tom Brady contacts Bill Belicheck to see if he wants to become head coach of the Raiders when he is already committed to North Carolina Tar Heels strongly suggest Tom knows Mike Vrables not available... Unless the patriots pass on him.
I don't get it, the guy did wonders with the lion's.....but he had the required parts to do so. He's never been a HC, and the Patriot's do not have the pieces to be competitive, at least right now.
The next hire if it goes wrong makes us the Jets. Let that sink in. Maybe Vrabel isn’t an all time great. But the floor becomes a lot better. We won’t have players telling the fans to shut up. We won’t have a coach calling the team soft. I’m fine with a couple middling seasons to get this team back to a winning franchise if we can at least be respectable. Play hard. See progress.
Mayo wanted to be a buddy coach & that always seems to fall apart eventually. Once you are the coach. You are the boss. I didn’t like his backtracking on his words. I didn’t like the stupid comments by players about the fans. I didn’t see any halftime adjustments. Mayo didn’t look ready to me.
@@papegotsmoked1302yep both coaches could have you looking for a new one in 2 years so go with the modern high ceiling guy Johnson, sick of this Vrabel is guarenteed to ...... BS
Phil Perry , one of the absolute FEW guys in New England Media that actually gives honest takes. Vs the rest of these clowns who are mad at BB for REASONS.
8:35 this is the Albert Breer lie all over again when he said coaches were calling around on how to develop Maye, when in reality the coaches just asked the coaches after the game what they thought about Maye
I’ve decided that Pollyanna Fred is the worst version of Fred. Coaches bail at the college level all the time. How many leave because their conduct brings the wrath of the NCAA down on the program?
It's probably already a done deal, but the league would prefer that they hold off on announcing it until after the Divisional round of the playoffs are done.
Bill would be stupid to leave NC. He's getting 10 million a year and he has full control of football operations. He doesn't have the Krafts sticking their nose in his business.
Only thing I’m worried about is letting vrabel Walk without a deal and then Johnson deciding to stay in Detroit or go elsewhere and then vrabel signing elsewhere because he finds a better deal. We gotta get vrabel signed and get this thing going.
Make it happen guys I’m not sure Johnson would be a sure thing and we can’t afford to let Mike sign somewhere else and then Johnson decided to stay in Detroit or go elsewhere and then we’d be doomed. Mike has the experience and is a smart coach and if he brought a good OC and coaching staff with him I think they’d get stuff done fee may protect, put some weapons around him and fix the defense we have the most cap and good draft capital to get it done
The legacy of a person includes their character for the folks who actually remember the person so long as they don't leave behind something to the degree of the holocaust or a significant war. If Belichick left NC to go after Shula's record people would remember it for the next 50 years. If the record persists longer than those 50 years; no one is caring about how NC was treated or if he kept his word, when most don't have any understanding of what was actually said between them. Fred makes money by yelling about twice a show. I will wait until he runs out of content and rails on the virtues of the quality of hot dog carts in Times Square
Do people prepare for these interviews hardcore? It would take them ten minutes to look over team. They watch other games. They know what’s happening around the league.
Well sometimes the teams want you to lay out what your plan or vision is. What percentage of your payroll goes towards X and y and Z. Although that really only matters if they have personnel control
The question around Campbell as a HC is not the leadership or building culture aspect, its if he is being carried by Ben Johnson and his DC. Next year if those 2 leave, its gonna be interesting.
Dude, this guy is a big Bill Belichick hater just like a bunch of people. It's probably just tearing them up that Tom actually knows that Bill helped him and is a good football coach and why he wants him to coach his team. I don't understand why we have a lions fan talking Patriots football as if they've done something to impress me they've done nothing yet
The rule to interview black coaches is one of the most racist things ever. So if they don’t interview any white guys should we have a rule you must have two white guys also? Na that would be called racist. 😅
This guy is so full of 💩. He’s so worried about the kids and their future. Future in what? You did be more worried about their education but you’re worried if Bill leaves for the NFL.
11 minutes in I'm reminded of why I do not listen to Fred any more. Since when is he the moral authority on anything? Please! Has he always talked like Sylvester The Cat from Looney Tunes?
The problem is that no one knows anything about Johnson as a head coach, and his success is far from guaranteed. There are many, many coaches who excel as an assistant and can’t be a good head coach. It happens all the time. Vrabel, at the very least, is someone who has proven they can be a head coach and win playoff games. That vs a complete unknown for a franchise wanting to win is where we are at, for better or worse.
@@georgen5882You need a HC capable of developing a QB and Tannehil under Vrabel never had ghe numbers Goff as had under Johnson. The Lions are SB contenders the Titans never won anything. I like Vrabel as a HC but this stubborness to miss out on the next new big HC because you want a more experienced candidate is what makes you stall as a franchise.
“If Belichick leaves North Carolina it destroys his reputation as a coach and a man”- this has to be one of the dumbest takes I’ve ever heard.
Honestly you can hear the jealousy in his takes and how he just wants to like destroy belichick
Fred is literally only this upset because its Bill lol.
If Bill leaves UNC for the NFL no one would care lmao. It would be a footnote in his career.
I know many that would care. Speak for self.
Yeah just like Brady to Bucs. Oh wait, Brady on Bucs is talked about all the time and considered his greatest achievement.
Exactly as usual Fred is out of touch. How does this guy get paid to do what he does!? Like good lord.
@@Nick-fc9xy not sure i get the comp here. Did Brady sign with another team then leave them for the Bucs? No he was a free agent
The NYJ of CFB 🤣
Phil is so right about this!! These kids in many cases are not only being paid to play football - they are getting FREE college scholarships to get degrees in professional fields. So if they get hurt, or they fail in the pros or don’t make it in the pros, they get a damn college degree they can either further, or they use to get a good paying career.
Like stop with this. These kids are the top tier athletes in our country. And it’s the top tier out of those kids that go pro - either way these kids get full boat free rides to attend multi billion dollar universities because they’re good at a sport…
Still talking bad about belichick 😂 the media is garbage they never deserved him anyway.
Shoutout to Phil for calling out the virtue signaling by Fred
Phil Perry is the best. Everyone next to him seems like a cartoon character.
Phil has completely lost interest and wants out of there...🤣
I knew.... unequivocally.... two years ago.... when Mike sat next to me... in this stadium..... after his Patriots.... hall of fame induction.... that he was... the right guy for the job.... yet again.... we will rely on... falling back on.... nepotism.... while pretending to interview..... other candidates.... for better PR.... We also.... built a new lighthouse....
Flag on the play....over use of .....
OP who do you believe will get the job then if nepotism does indeed prevail?
@@davidphillips4706 LOL! It was for dramatic effect to imitate Kraft.
@@YoureNotReet I think Vrabel is gonna get the job and to be honest, I wouldn't be upset by that but it still kind of feels like more of the same, like the Krafts aren't willing to move on to something new. (except a new lighthouse 😉)
I mean it's not nepotism to hire a former coach of the year. Lol.
I wasn’t bothered by the two interviews that satisfied the Rooney rule because I believe they did that to have the freedom to hire whomever they wanted on the spot if it came up. For instance, if they fell in love with Vrabel and didn’t want him to leave the building- it’s unrealistic to expect them to wait until more desirable targets like Flores or Glenn were available in person.
Not sure I’ve ever seen Fred so worked up…..
Maybe yes and maybe they just haven’t interviewed someone in over 25 years for head coach. You do get rusty. Plus Eliot Wolf to my knowledge has never interviewed a head coach before. Also in addition they could be guys Mike Vrabel has talked about for staff spots!
@@elizabeth9674Plus Phil Perry CLEARLY stated they’ve reached out to Aaron Glen, who is by far the top minority candidate! Curren also said they are wanting to talk to Flores, but they can’t even put a request in to talk to him until the Vikings season is over!
@@DMKFACTOR yes! And i hope they get the opportunity to hear both Ben and Aaron but if they find themselves in a situation where they don’t want Vrabel to do anymore interviews I’m okay with them putting themselves in a position to hire him on the spot (which they could only do with the people who were available to interview in person.)
@ Right, and all working coordinators and coaches CANNOT interview in person until January 20th only if their team is eliminated. They’re going to have to wait until after at least championship weekend to meet with Glen or Johnson. This team needs a complete organizational wide rebuild along with the players on the field. They want to get someone in here with a plan to rebuild it NOW!
My only concern with guys like Johnson and Glen is you have to have the organization built to support them. A guy like Vrabel can BUILD the organization around him! He has the experience needed for the job. Also on the Ben Johnson front, he’s kind of an introvert. He likes to be behind closed doors working on all his plays. That won’t work here, need someone that is present and able to multitask. Not sure a first time head coach can do all of what the Krafts need. They are complete hands off owners, and thats why last year was a mess. They aren’t football people, they had Bill for 25 years to run everything. He’s the one that controlled everything including the spending!
Didn’t Bill start with the Jets not even coach a season and leave for the Patriots?
Yep
this is why Phil is my goat
The old fart with the white beard is such a know it all and knows nothing drunk at the end of ths bar. Hire Nick Cattles for some needed intelligence and truth.
I couldn't have said it better.
Omg just do it already and put me out of my misery 😂 I think it’s a great hire tbh! And imo it’ll make the Pats immediate contenders (considering it looks like they hit on QB which is the hard part), which I REALLY don’t like as a Bills fan… just being honest, and I hate that NE did it the right way while Jets & Phins sold their futures trying to buy good teams. Just hire Vrabel, yall know damn well he’s a much better candidate than anyone else 🙄🥺😂
@@sarahchristine2345 sometimes the hardest part about being a pats fan is other pats fans…. We’ve been ludicrously successful for 20 years and they think that makes them an expert. If we go into the offseason with Vrabel, Josh and Saleh as our coaches I’ll be crossing the days off the calendar until training camp. P.S. I’m rooting for you guys to take the Lombardi this year.
The fact that Tom Pelleciro reported that part owner Tom Brady contacts Bill Belicheck to see if he wants to become head coach of the Raiders when he is already committed to North Carolina Tar Heels strongly suggest Tom knows Mike Vrables not available... Unless the patriots pass on him.
Great point!
Bro it's garbage, Brady called Bill about something else and the reporter just made up it was about him coming to coach
@SkeletorsSon Why ??...So Tom Pelleciro can be known as a lying unethical analyst ... I doubt it.. highly.
I think we will get a breaking news segment within 24 to 48 hours. That’s as long as I’m giving it. They will announce they hired him within 48 hours.
...only after talking to Ben Johnson in Detroit..that is the guy you want.
I don't get it, the guy did wonders with the lion's.....but he had the required parts to do so. He's never been a HC, and the Patriot's do not have the pieces to be competitive, at least right now.
@@davidphillips4706Vrabel doesn't have the pieces either and never had to build a team 🤦
The next hire if it goes wrong makes us the Jets. Let that sink in. Maybe Vrabel isn’t an all time great. But the floor becomes a lot better. We won’t have players telling the fans to shut up. We won’t have a coach calling the team soft. I’m fine with a couple middling seasons to get this team back to a winning franchise if we can at least be respectable. Play hard. See progress.
Do you want respectability or do you want to WIN
Mayo wanted to be a buddy coach & that always seems to fall apart eventually. Once you are the coach. You are the boss. I didn’t like his backtracking on his words. I didn’t like the stupid comments by players about the fans. I didn’t see any halftime adjustments. Mayo didn’t look ready to me.
@@papegotsmoked1302yep both coaches could have you looking for a new one in 2 years so go with the modern high ceiling guy Johnson, sick of this Vrabel is guarenteed to ...... BS
Vrabel is the most experienced & best candidate available.
I’m hoping he doesn’t leave today without a deal with the Patriots.
Mayo was a great player, Vrabel also was a great player, but also a leader......and that makes a difference as HC
The most experienced yes, the Best we dont know yet.
I mean just logistically speaking it would take more than a day probably to iron out the details.
Phil Perry , one of the absolute FEW guys in New England Media that actually gives honest takes. Vs the rest of these clowns who are mad at BB for REASONS.
Phil calling out Fred’s virtue signaling is spot on.
Krafts better not fuck this up. Give him everything he wants.
8:35 this is the Albert Breer lie all over again when he said coaches were calling around on how to develop Maye, when in reality the coaches just asked the coaches after the game what they thought about Maye
I’ve decided that Pollyanna Fred is the worst version of Fred.
Coaches bail at the college level all the time. How many leave because their conduct brings the wrath of the NCAA down on the program?
Why is Fred going off on Bill like he’s accepted the Vegas job. Get over yourself man.
It's probably already a done deal, but the league would prefer that they hold off on announcing it until after the Divisional round of the playoffs are done.
Fred is such a whiny Karen
Vrabel and McDaniel. Let's Gooooo!!!!
Bill would be stupid to leave NC. He's getting 10 million a year and he has full control of football operations. He doesn't have the Krafts sticking their nose in his business.
I hope for the best 🤞🙏 💯
Only thing I’m worried about is letting vrabel
Walk without a deal and then Johnson deciding to stay in Detroit or go elsewhere and then vrabel signing elsewhere because he finds a better deal. We gotta get vrabel signed and get this thing going.
Bill left the Jets after being their head coach for only a few hours lol… we all know Bill is ruthless
Well they were tokens...What's controversial about that? Big question is how much those two were paid to get on the plane?
I just hope whoever they hire demands total control...new staff/personnel/scouting.
Make it happen guys I’m not sure Johnson would be a sure thing and we can’t afford to let Mike sign somewhere else and then Johnson decided to stay in Detroit or go elsewhere and then we’d be doomed. Mike has the experience and is a smart coach and if he brought a good OC and coaching staff with him I think they’d get stuff done fee may protect, put some weapons around him and fix the defense we have the most cap and good draft capital to get it done
Who’s the cranky old moralist? Shaka, when the walls fell.
The legacy of a person includes their character for the folks who actually remember the person so long as they don't leave behind something to the degree of the holocaust or a significant war.
If Belichick left NC to go after Shula's record people would remember it for the next 50 years. If the record persists longer than those 50 years; no one is caring about how NC was treated or if he kept his word, when most don't have any understanding of what was actually said between them.
Fred makes money by yelling about twice a show. I will wait until he runs out of content and rails on the virtues of the quality of hot dog carts in Times Square
Can you imagine if Vrabel and Johnson turn them down?
11:10 the NIL has changed everything these are no longer kids if he leaves to bad for them they have the portal.
I think the best option is Ben Johnson. especially having Drake maye as a quarterback.
Do people prepare for these interviews hardcore? It would take them ten minutes to look over team. They watch other games. They know what’s happening around the league.
Well sometimes the teams want you to lay out what your plan or vision is. What percentage of your payroll goes towards X and y and Z. Although that really only matters if they have personnel control
I’d like Ben Johnson to get a fair shot, he would be the best option for Drake going forward
You don't know that. Wait to see who Vrabel brings in as OC and QB coach.
Monday the earliest! They interview Ben Johnson tomorrow too.
Damn the hate for bill is serious
Freddie is unlistenable!
Mike Vrabel and Dan Campbell are cut from the same cloth. That's why I am rooting for Vrabel.
The question around Campbell as a HC is not the leadership or building culture aspect, its if he is being carried by Ben Johnson and his DC. Next year if those 2 leave, its gonna be interesting.
Never understand why bill gets so much hate in new england.
Bill Belichick's moral character: a 72-year-old man dating a 24-year-old young woman.
Phil P processing that terrible take @8:32
Dude, this guy is a big Bill Belichick hater just like a bunch of people. It's probably just tearing them up that Tom actually knows that Bill helped him and is a good football coach and why he wants him to coach his team. I don't understand why we have a lions fan talking Patriots football as if they've done something to impress me they've done nothing yet
Do you feel better?
The rule to interview black coaches is one of the most racist things ever. So if they don’t interview any white guys should we have a rule you must have two white guys also? Na that would be called racist. 😅
This guy is so full of 💩. He’s so worried about the kids and their future. Future in what? You did be more worried about their education but you’re worried if Bill leaves for the NFL.
Just hire someone new. And old dude from the team was right. (Not talking about Kraft).
Fred: "enterviews"
Felger: “Suvun candidates” (7)
@@keegannjk1 crazy Midwestern accent
If they hire Vrabel today, someone is not doing their job.
11 minutes in I'm reminded of why I do not listen to Fred any more. Since when is he the moral authority on anything? Please! Has he always talked like Sylvester The Cat from Looney Tunes?
Vrabel is not good enough to not let leave the building.
They probably already did
Don't let Vrabels limo pull on to route 1 without a deal, Bob and Jonathan
The guy on the left seems like such a miserable person, just whines about everything
Fred no neck gurgle
Change the title of the video to bitching bout Bill
THE RAIDERS WANT HIM
This infatuation with Vrabel is a disservice to the Patriots...
They act like Bill Parcells is out on the market.. He's not that...
Fuck it hire vrabel bring back Josh McDaniels
Fred destroyed them in this debate. Not close, either.
Agree with Fred. Belichick is a self serving tool.
Hopefully they dont make him the HC and we get ben johnson. Time to get away from that era and former players
*Mike Vrabel is a former Coach of the Year and has been to two AFC Championships. He did all that with Ryan Tannehill…*
The problem is that no one knows anything about Johnson as a head coach, and his success is far from guaranteed. There are many, many coaches who excel as an assistant and can’t be a good head coach. It happens all the time. Vrabel, at the very least, is someone who has proven they can be a head coach and win playoff games. That vs a complete unknown for a franchise wanting to win is where we are at, for better or worse.
@@georgen5882You need a HC capable of developing a QB and Tannehil under Vrabel never had ghe numbers Goff as had under Johnson. The Lions are SB contenders the Titans never won anything. I like Vrabel as a HC but this stubborness to miss out on the next new big HC because you want a more experienced candidate is what makes you stall as a franchise.