I get a kick out of the fact that viewers are having fun right along with you as you build your shop and fill it with cool tools; many with a family history. I am one of them.
I can't believe there are people out there who thumbs down the nicest TH-cam content providers. Keep up the great work, Keith, it's fun to watch what your progress.
I stopped worrying about the thumbs down a long time ago. There are just a few people who don't like me for whatever reason. I learned a long time ago that it is impossible to make everybody happy.
I am soooo jealous of your shop. I have a 1 1/2 car garage that I have fit all my machines into. I need triple that to be able to use them without having to move or climb over something. I have a 24x38 pole shed that I hope to insulate and put a concrete floor in soon. As with you...I'll do what I can afford when I can afford it. Another excellent video. It must be humbling to know someone appreciates you enough to send you that wonderful tool box and all the other "swag" that you get. Your videos are very much appreciated.
Wow you have really done a beautiful job on that shop its gonna be great to see videos coming from your new shop. That wooden machinists tool box I have one just like it. The old leather handle is still there and shows its age but it still works fine. My Dad was a machinist and this one I have was his. He was born in 1924 and said he got this when he was 18 but its still just as sturdy as the day it was made. Definitely love to keep family heirlooms in the family or give them to some one who appreciates them. Thanks for sharing
yes, broyher keith, i am with you on the wood tool box, and yours are made in the best tradition of crast of amish. i wouldn't at all be surprised if it turns out the master cabinet maker is of some secluded amish shop. the content, too, deserves a praise word or wo. thank you for the show, -toly
I highly recommend that you call 7064 Monday morning and grab that '47 Chevy before someone else gets it. Not too many of them left! "Hot water heater" is a Southern thing. I grew up saying it too. It doesn't heat hot water, it's the thing that heated the hot water, the hot-water heater. I've been putting off a shop for years, in part because I was thinking only in terms of steel buildings. My wife hates the idea of a steel building on the place, and I wasn't too fond of it, but I absolutely love your barn-style shop and it could be a lot more affordable since steel got so high. The clerestory would also solve a design consideration in my situation. You've really got me dreaming and planning again. Thanks, Keith!
I tell you what it is looking really good in the new shop. I almost can't wait to see your first project in the new shop. I want to see those machines you got waiting to be brought in after the insulation. keep up the good work!!
What a great job you’ve done on the shop! Don’t worry, you’ll get there and have something you’ll be very proud of when you’re done. I’ve learned a lot from you and I’m so glad I found your channel. Thank you.
Ingot info was very interesting and WOW with the wood box. Sure original owners would love to see someone really use and cherish. Very nice thing to do subscriber.
Hey Keith, the shop seems to be progressing nicely and I'm sure that most of us are jealous. I thought of an item that you may not have considered and that is fire protection. It is a great time to install a fire riser. You can contact your local fire department to find out what size riser they can connect to. I found out that most fire engines have only about 2 minutes of water on board, after that they are done fire fighting. It's good to have a your own hose so that you could try to suppress any fire while waiting for the professionals.
Living out in a rural area like I do, we do not have a water system. I have a 4" well that is about 30 feet from the front of the shop, but it will only provide enough water flow to use a garden hose. There is a pond right down the road from me though that has a "Dry Hydrant" in it - basically a suction pipe that a fire truck or tanker can re-fill on without having to drive all the way into town to connect to the water system.
Keith Rucker - VintageMachinery.org Here in California, Cal Fire requires people living in rural areas to have a 10,000 gal water tank for fire fighting because of the danger of brush fires. That's an expensive set up but the plastic tanks aren't too bad. Several large fire extinguishers and good insurance is likely a more sensible choice.
I enjoy seeing the progress on your shop. I hear that getting there is half the journey, but I know you'll be excited when you finally have a chance to work on as project there. Also, digging through old tool chests is great fun .... my favorite form of archeology.......
I'm a member of the Washington Woodworkers Guild. Years ago there was an estate sale at a woodworker's shop that was strictly for Guild members. I didn't know the guy whose shop we went to, but besides being filled with top-of-the line-tools, both hand and power, it was also exquisite: countless brass and maple jigs and fixtures -- and the tool drawers were all French fitted. His wife said that he'd retired from the Federal Government almost ten years ago, and almost had his shop the way he wanted it, and he died. I saw no wood storage or dust collection and wondered if he'd ever made any projects. A friend, who had bought several large power tools, went by with his flat bed and his wife showed him a coffee table he has almost finished. There's a moral here somewhere ....
You should consider the great TH-cam Insulation and Drywall / Pizza Party Meet Up. One day, all the stapling, screwing and scratching you can stand. This is intended as a serious suggestion. Crowd sourcing resources to get projects knock out is as new as it is old. How many times did the men of a community get together to build a school? The modern community is just much larger and more interconnected today because of the internet.
The shop is looking good. You can almost never have too many plugs, because something always comes up. I ran a whole bunch of extra 220 and 110 plugs in various locations in my shop...because you never know. Enjoy the process..Have a good one.
Shop looks beautiful. I'm thinking I should add a little class to my own pole barn when I expand it. The brass ruler might be from the 'teens or 'twenties. Any gentleman who could afford to own an automobile was expected to be able to keep it in tune. I have a polished brass AC Delco 4-size spark plug gauge and adjuster set on a chain that was probably worn like a pocket watch.
Hi Keith,I'm sure you know how much we all appreciate the time and effort you put into making videos to teach and entertain us. I'm also sure that the things sent to you are not only in appreciation,but your viewers are entrusting them to someone who will use,take care of and someday pass on to others.Thanks again for your vids buddy.You have earned and deserve all good things that come your way!
Very nice shop! I love your videos and watch them all. I thought it was funny when you said hot water heater too. If the water is hot you don't need a heater. I work for a water heater manufacturer in West Michigan and got corrected for saying the same thing. Keep up the good work.
Thank you for the sharing your shop progress, Keith. Appreciate your style of thinking and moving on. It helps me to get my passion for moving on with personal projects. Wish you to get the shop finished and started for the new projects.
Hello Keith, As usual a very nice Odd&Ends with lots of interesting items and also great that you did make a very long one. Good to see the good progress in the shop and specially that you have to do it on your own. Besides a week ago I bought me my first digital caliper, not an expensive one ( about 35 euro's ) but it works well for the purpose I use it. I did want an digital one because now I can switch between metric and inches. But again and like usual thanx for the great video and looking forward to the next one. Many greetings from Roel ( out of an very rainy Netherlands ).
The metric/inch function is really nice on the digital calipers - they are nice to have around. I still prefer my dial calipers for day to day work, but I keep a set of digital ones for metric work.
Great Video. I think the miniature "hammer" is actually the pivot pin for the broken compass. The hammer handle looks like it extended through the C spring to form the top piece you would spin the compass with. Proper use aside you could always send it to Tom for his hammer collection. Keep up the great work, Cheers fro New Zealand.
Great video, thanks for sharing the old tool box and its contents. I love old tools and really love to see the old machinist books. The shop is looking good, I must say I would love a space like that, I know you will put it to good use. Thank you for another great video.
dunno if anyone gives a damn but if you're bored like me atm then you can watch pretty much all the new series on instaflixxer. Have been streaming with my gf during the lockdown xD
Great swag selection! Some interesting almost historic items. Love the tool box. Shop looking good. Can well imagine what a big job it is - you just have to nibble at it, bit at a time as you are doing. You must have plenty of energy with all you do.
In my experience, the Sucrets tins in well used tool boxes always held something interesting. I've trained myself to spot that brand through a thick layer of rust and grime so I can be sure to look inside whenever I see one at an estate sale.
Good update Keith. I had sent you the vid of my shop being spray foamed. Based on what I paid and my shop is the same size, I would guess they will want to do 5" of open cell for around $2500-$3000
Did I see a horizontal Romex run in the bathroom!? I certainly understand when you get to a point where it'll be covered and there is a huge beam to go through up top. Just fooling with ya Keith. Everything looks great and we're all waiting to see chips flying. Oh, and Happy Birthday Sir!
The morse taper thing with the square hole might be for taking a drill bit with a square tang. I have a similar thing with a straight 1/2" shank that fits in an antique hand-crank drill press.
Some nice gifts there Keith especially the wooden toolbox. The shop is coming on bit by bit. When winter comes you will get a bit more time inside. I have a 12" brass scale that is 5/16" thick and 1-1/8" wide and it is only marked out in 1/8" increments.. Its a really nice thing to have but too heavy to use everyday. regards from the UK
The crayon is a yellow lumber crayon used in the sawmills. It also comes in blue and is a favorite of old surveyors for marking the tops of grade stakes. Rodmen on survey crews always carried a yellow lumber crayon for marking distance on road surfaces and sidewalks. Today surveyors no longer use the old transits and levels it is all done with base stations and satellite coordinates.
From day one I never liked those wooden tool boxes. I have seen more tools hit the floor because sooner or later some one pulls the draw out too far and dumps all the precious tools on the floor. Kennedy has the right idea!
Working by yourself is not an excuse for slow progress, or at least so I am told. LOL Currently the consensus seems that my new shop will be far too small.I guess I will just have to build with a possible expansion in mind as funding certainly would not permit that now.
It may be no excuse, but I can tell you that when I have one person helping while framing, it goes at least three times faster.... One person cutting and another nailing sure saves a lot of steps and climbs up a ladder....
Keith Rucker - VintageMachinery.org I hear ya, I know for a fact I have been up and down my ladders thousands of times putting up the siding and I am not even half done yet. I finished planting here this week so hopefully I can get back to making some good progress again. I hope you have had some time to get done what you wanted and I look forward to the next update. :-)
Here is a nother Randy that would injoy meeting you, Maybe some day, I would let you know far in advance, And to see your new shop would be something to see, I know you cant wait to start working in your new shop, Same here. Stay safe and keep on keeping on.
Glad the ingot pattern made it okay. I'm slowly but surely gathering the supplies needed to make sand molds and pouring metal so that the videos that I will be making for youtube can be illustrated well. I already have two vids made, but am waiting until I have at least 5 made before I start uploading them on a weekly basis. Wish me luck.
And I am your first subscriber. From what you have shown and taught Keith, and all the other help you gave him, I am more than willing to take a chance on your channel being a great one!
Thanks for your vote of confidence! Just finished making my 12 X 12 wooden flask yesterday, which was a standard size that we used the most in the Navy. I still have to make a bottom board, a molding board, a couple of Sprue covers and then I'll be able to start making the molding bench and after that, the furnace. I still have a lot to do so keep your eyes open. Thanks!
I have subscribed as well in anticipation of all the great things to be learned. You will be happy to know that am back to working on the furnace now that I have things caught up in working on the shop until I can get my insulation installed!
The nice thing about the older wooden machinists chests is that they are generally made from quarter-sawn white oak. Because they are quarter-sawn (each board is on, or close to, a radius of the original log) they tend to be extremely dimensionally stable and free from warping and cupping. I suppose that Gerstner still makes chests in that way, but they have lent their name (as Gerstner International) to a line of plain-sawn red oak chests that will be prone to warping and swelling over the years. The Gerstner International chests are frequently sold by catalog companies that don't really understand machinists.
The chest I just got is not made from quartersawn wood, my older one is. Quartersawn white oak is superior in many ways over red oak - quartersawn or not!
Yeah, I always suspect red oak of giving off something that can corrode steel (unless oiled to a fare-thee-well). Plus it is extremely porous. If you split off (so the grain follows the length) an 8" wand of dry red oak, you can dip it in a glass of water and blow bubbles just like it was a soda-straw. (That's one way to test whether you have red or white oak. Color of the wood is not a reliable indicator.)
You mention grinding the HSS cutting tools to custom shapes. I recently watched the safe videos, and when you were cutting the radius in the dial with a round tip cutter, I wondered if you had made that yourself, and if so, how. Specifically, how you would get a consistent radius on the tip? Perhaps an interesting future video would deal with grinding the custom shapes. (If you haven't already done one - I am still new here, and working my way through the previous videos.)
The reamer could be a clockmakers broach, but check the angle on it, as it might also be a tapered pin reamer - clock broaches are usually only a very slight angle. I'm sure you run into tapered pins locating parts on the vintage stuff you work on.
You can repair the compass pretty easily using one of those round clips that Tom Lipton showed us at some point. So to be clear, a black barrel spring that's, oh...4 cm long 1.5 OD with two stamped wedges passing inside acting both as handles and teeth. I used one to repair an old compass of mine, you just have to cut a piece to the correct width from the "tube" spring and then notch and drill it. Did mine in little under an hour with a drill and some files. Also, it's not a tiny tiny hammer, that's the rocker from the compass. Fix it, it's a pity, that's a good compass.
Nice of people to chip in funds wise, gives Keith opportunities to create more youtube content as well with the progression of the Workshop. There's still some good folks out there in the world.
Don't get me wrong because I really enjoy watching Keith and admire his work. No bad feelings in anyway shape or form.........but how much does he need? LOL
Tom Wilcox A lot i should imagine considering the size of the workshop, also as he's independently doing it and it's not a building part of large franchise i assume there's no big discounts with the labour involved. Either way good people appreciated.
Indeed, very nice - and not asked for. Got a quote on the insulation yesterday and it is going to take me a while to save up, or I am going to have to finance it. I hate to borrow any more money on the project, so it will probably have to wait....
reposted: Hey Keith, the shop seems to be progressing nicely and I'm sure that most of us are jealous. I thought of an item that you may not have considered and that is fire protection. It is a great time to install a fire riser. You can contact your local fire department to find out what size riser they can connect to. I found out that most fire engines have only about 2 minutes of water on board, after that they are done fire fighting. It's good to have a your own hose so that you could try to suppress any fire while waiting for the professionals.
+Keith Rucker - VintageMachinery.org I think you misunderstood me. I meant how many tools do you need? I would never ask about someone's money situation. I am a retired mechanic of 35 years. I know what having a lot of tools mean. If you need them or not you take all you can get! Thanks
@Keith Rucker The names "graffitti" you found on the draws of the engineer's toolbox; it was customary / normal in a large machine shop, for the owner of the toolbox to put their name on the draws, to prevent some light fingered workmate from swapping their draws for yours! :-) Quite likely that each owner of the box might have done this too.
that "little hammer" is not a hammer its the top of the broken Compass it gos in the top of the arms and the broken circle spring holds the arms on to it
Thank you for the video, I really like your humble attitude. Is there more than one opening for the storage area over the bathroom? I think that it might be a good idea to have a door from the middle of the shop. That would make it easier to see what's there and also simplify loading long stuff. Just a thought. Keep up the good work!
I thought about putting a door on that side but I am I planing on putting some storage shelves in the area that would be right below the door, which would be in the way of good access.
Hey Keith - love your site and I've learned a lot. I've always loved steam locomotives ever since my grandfather used to take me to the local train station to watch the trains and SP had a lot of Pacifics back then, on the short haul freight and commuter lines and they a very are lovely design with wonderful symmetry and balance. Many were donated to local parks and fairgrounds around the state instead of scrapped and many have been placed back into active service. Any way the real reason I'm writing is I just scored a really nice Simplex 41S at an estate sale for 50 bucks and I was wondering if you had any ideas about the vintage?
Regarding the wall in the middle of the shop. Why not have a tarp draped/attached with hooks on a wire somehow? Easy to remove if bigger things are moved, and stop noise and air flow when outer doors are opened.
Advice from one who has ried many things: If you put a bigger piece of tarp/similar material to protect from wind/snow drift and things like that, and it is removed by the wind on occasion. Make a tear in the fabric oriented top to bottom but only a few feet long. Space them even and with a distance of a few feet.Does not let snow and rain pass but keeps the tarp/ fabric in good shape without beeing torn.The key to come up with this idea? Have you ever seen toilet paper rip in the perforation?
The decimal/fraction conversion table on the front of the tool box from Frederick Post was sized to fit a parallel straightedge on a drafting table. Usually peel and stick. No doubt some cross pollination between engineering and toolmaking.
your spray foam guy will probably do it below cost or free if you hang a sign for him. i would if i were closer to you. i'm the son of a tool and die maker and spent many hours in his shop helping and really enjoy you Keith.
I wish they would give me a deal, but the truth is that I am so far off of any main road, very few people would ever see a sign if I were to hang one.....
Keith, Those scissors are likely Vom Cleff & Co., a well known German cutting implement manufacturer for years past. Company was founded by Robert Vom Cleff and was in business from 1873 to around 1930. They are also likely made of sterling silver and are HIGHLY collectible. They made all types of shears, hair cutting shears, grooming products such as straight razors and the like as well as pocket knives and other things like that. Given that, those MIGHT be nose/ear hair clippers. Could be wrong though.
Noooope, SS isn't magnetic and actually I meant to type 'possibly' and not 'likely' lol. I know their "fancy" shears for hair, the handles were SS so I thought their other implements might be as well. Still though, a pair of Vom Cleff's would be a great thing to add to a box of knick knacks. :-D
Will you have a door between the 2 parts of your shop? If yes, won't you need switches there to turn off the lights of the part you live and turn on the second part? About your storage above the bathroom, it looks that the door for the storage is above the door of the bathroom. Wouldn't it better to have the doors on different sides? So when you have a ladder to access the storage you don't block the access to the bathroom.
Yes, there will be a door between the two parts of the shop - and I already have switches mounted so that you can turn on lights either way you walk through the door - the switches are on the back side of the posts. As for the door to the storage area, it will rarely ever be used so I am not worrying about blocking the bathroom door from time to time - I am pretty much the only person who will be using it so no big deal. Besides, my plans for the other areas that I could have put a door will block having a ladder there to gain access to the top.
Also, may want to consider running some cat6 around the shop. You may one day get something CNC... Or set up cameras to do some filming for the channel. Network cables are easy to run now, but a nightmare after you spray insulation. Or even put in some plastic conduit just to have a path for future use.
Another great video. Thank you for the time and effort that you put into these. What are your plans for heat and air in the new shop? Being a Georgia resident myself I am well aware of humidity being an enemy of machinery and tools.
I hope to one day be able to add a heat pump in the shop - but that will probably be a ways down the road when I get so many of the other things done and my budget has recovered some!
Wall between the shop halves: I bet at some point you will want a big door there. But I also bet that you don't even want to think about the cost of another roll door at this point. You could put up a temporary fabric/canvas door for not very much, at least compared to a metal roll door. You would most likely want (even if not required by local laws) to flameproof the canvas, but that isn't hard to do, and you can probably get the necessary chemical at the local hardware or farm supply store for not much. Or I can find you an online link. About all you need is a sheet of duck, a 1" or 1 1/4" pipe, some rope, and a few cheap pullies. Probably can do the whole thing for under $200 or less. I know even that is a sizable amount, but it could last you 5 years or so while you decide if you want something more substantial.
I've never seen a brass scale either, not in person anyway. But there's an English blacksmith I am subscribed to, Rowan Taylor, and he uses a brass scale.
Hi Keith I have noticed that you don't have any noggins in the wall frames our building code requires them between the studs is that not required in the US ? Cheers Dave
The exterior walls have noggins / fireblocks, but the interior walls are still being fitted with wiring, outlets, etc. Presumably noggins will be installed in those walls once the electrical & plumbing have been installed.
Would you mind sharing what products you used to do the floor in your shop? I need to do something to the floor in my garage but like you I don't want to do epoxy.
Looks to me like the students are taking good care of the good teacher, as well as other good teachers adding to the whole thing. Everything done is done. Anything beats nothing. Slow is better than no. Keep on grinding away. The cat is still gnawing on the grindstone.
Keith Rucker - VintageMachinery.org I've always used a saying that my first wife couldn't stand and it was and still is 'You get what you pay for'. Paybacks can be rough BUT they can be really good too! Carry on there, Teach! The proof is in the puddin'!
I get a kick out of the fact that viewers are having fun right along with you as you build your shop and fill it with cool tools; many with a family history. I am one of them.
Thanks - I for one am having a ball!
I can't believe there are people out there who thumbs down the nicest TH-cam content providers. Keep up the great work, Keith, it's fun to watch what your progress.
I stopped worrying about the thumbs down a long time ago. There are just a few people who don't like me for whatever reason. I learned a long time ago that it is impossible to make everybody happy.
Cool stuff Keith. Those older navy machinists really know their stuff.
No doubt!
It's humbling, and quite sad to see old belongings once cherished and loved, reduced to a box. Good luck with the shop... it's looking really great.
Thanks!
I am soooo jealous of your shop. I have a 1 1/2 car garage that I have fit all my machines into. I need triple that to be able to use them without having to move or climb over something. I have a 24x38 pole shed that I hope to insulate and put a concrete floor in soon. As with you...I'll do what I can afford when I can afford it. Another excellent video. It must be humbling to know someone appreciates you enough to send you that wonderful tool box and all the other "swag" that you get. Your videos are very much appreciated.
I am a lucky man for sure - this has been my dream for many years now!
That shop is looking like a dream come true! Very nice.
Indeed it is - a dream come true that is...
If I lived closer I would come over and help with the shop !!!
Good things come to those who deserve them. Mostly.
Insulation before the hot Summer heat will make a big difference.
Looking good Keith. Cheers.
Unfortunately, the hot summer is already here in South Georgia. We have been in the mid 90's almost every day this week....
Wow you have really done a beautiful job on that shop its gonna be great to see videos coming from your new shop. That wooden machinists tool box I have one just like it. The old leather handle is still there and shows its age but it still works fine. My Dad was a machinist and this one I have was his. He was born in 1924 and said he got this when he was 18 but its still just as sturdy as the day it was made. Definitely love to keep family heirlooms in the family or give them to some one who appreciates them. Thanks for sharing
After doing some research, I am pretty sure that the new tool box sent in was made by Pilliod and is a No. 25.
yes, broyher keith, i am with you on the wood tool box, and yours are made in the best tradition of crast of amish. i wouldn't at all be surprised if it turns out the master cabinet maker is of some secluded amish shop.
the content, too, deserves a praise word or wo.
thank you for the show,
-toly
Thanks Toly - I have done some research on the box and I am pretty sure it was made by Pilloid and is a No. 25.
I highly recommend that you call 7064 Monday morning and grab that '47 Chevy before someone else gets it. Not too many of them left!
"Hot water heater" is a Southern thing. I grew up saying it too. It doesn't heat hot water, it's the thing that heated the hot water, the hot-water heater.
I've been putting off a shop for years, in part because I was thinking only in terms of steel buildings. My wife hates the idea of a steel building on the place, and I wasn't too fond of it, but I absolutely love your barn-style shop and it could be a lot more affordable since steel got so high. The clerestory would also solve a design consideration in my situation. You've really got me dreaming and planning again. Thanks, Keith!
The funny thing about the "hot water heater" is that I have never really though about it before - that is just what everybody calls them.....
As always a great view - thanks Keith
your channel is much appreciated ...greetings a viewer from Holland.
Thank you!
I tell you what it is looking really good in the new shop. I almost can't wait to see your first project in the new shop. I want to see those machines you got waiting to be brought in after the insulation. keep up the good work!!
I am just itching to start moving them. It is killing me....
What a great job you’ve done on the shop! Don’t worry, you’ll get there and have something you’ll be very proud of when you’re done.
I’ve learned a lot from you and I’m so glad I found your channel. Thank you.
Ingot info was very interesting and WOW with the wood box. Sure original owners would love to see someone really use and cherish. Very nice thing to do subscriber.
I just wish I could have known some of the guys who I now have tools from...
Hey Keith, the shop seems to be progressing nicely and I'm sure that most of us are jealous. I thought of an item that you may not have considered and that is fire protection. It is a great time to install a fire riser. You can contact your local fire department to find out what size riser they can connect to. I found out that most fire engines have only about 2 minutes of water on board, after that they are done fire fighting. It's good to have a your own hose so that you could try to suppress any fire while waiting for the professionals.
Living out in a rural area like I do, we do not have a water system. I have a 4" well that is about 30 feet from the front of the shop, but it will only provide enough water flow to use a garden hose. There is a pond right down the road from me though that has a "Dry Hydrant" in it - basically a suction pipe that a fire truck or tanker can re-fill on without having to drive all the way into town to connect to the water system.
Keith Rucker - VintageMachinery.org Here in California, Cal Fire requires people living in rural areas to have a 10,000 gal water tank for fire fighting because of the danger of brush fires. That's an expensive set up but the plastic tanks aren't too bad. Several large fire extinguishers and good insurance is likely a more sensible choice.
I enjoy seeing the progress on your shop. I hear that getting there is half the journey, but I know you'll be excited when you finally have a chance to work on as project there.
Also, digging through old tool chests is great fun .... my favorite form of archeology.......
I am having fun building the shop but I really want to start working IN the shop rather than ON the shop!
I'm a member of the Washington Woodworkers Guild. Years ago there was an estate sale at a woodworker's shop that was strictly for Guild members. I didn't know the guy whose shop we went to, but besides being filled with top-of-the line-tools, both hand and power, it was also exquisite: countless brass and maple jigs and fixtures -- and the tool drawers were all French fitted. His wife said that he'd retired from the Federal Government almost ten years ago, and almost had his shop the way he wanted it, and he died.
I saw no wood storage or dust collection and wondered if he'd ever made any projects. A friend, who had bought several large power tools, went by with his flat bed and his wife showed him a coffee table he has almost finished.
There's a moral here somewhere ....
The new shop is getting along nicely!
Thanks!
Thanks for sharing Keith. Lot of stuff I'm sure you'll find a use for.
As always - thanks!
Rolling scafolding rocks! And, when you are done with it, you can always purpose it as a materials shelving unit.
I borrowed some from the museum and it worked great!
You should consider the great TH-cam Insulation and Drywall / Pizza Party Meet Up. One day, all the stapling, screwing and scratching you can stand.
This is intended as a serious suggestion. Crowd sourcing resources to get projects knock out is as new as it is old. How many times did the men of a community get together to build a school? The modern community is just much larger and more interconnected today because of the internet.
The shop is looking good. You can almost never have too many plugs, because something always comes up. I ran a whole bunch of extra 220 and 110 plugs in various locations in my shop...because you never know. Enjoy the process..Have a good one.
Thanks!
Shop looks beautiful. I'm thinking I should add a little class to my own pole barn when I expand it. The brass ruler might be from the 'teens or 'twenties. Any gentleman who could afford to own an automobile was expected to be able to keep it in tune. I have a polished brass AC Delco 4-size spark plug gauge and adjuster set on a chain that was probably worn like a pocket watch.
Back when the common man could work on a car. Now, you can't do anything unless you plug it into a computer first....
Hi Keith,I'm sure you know how much we all appreciate the time and effort you put into making videos to teach and entertain us. I'm also sure that the things sent to you are not only in appreciation,but your viewers are entrusting them to someone who will use,take care of and someday pass on to others.Thanks again for your vids buddy.You have earned and deserve all good things that come your way!
Thank you!
Very nice shop! I love your videos and watch them all. I thought it was funny when you said hot water heater too. If the water is hot you don't need a heater. I work for a water heater manufacturer in West Michigan and got corrected for saying the same thing. Keep up the good work.
The funny thing is that I have never even though about it before - but you are right, what I will need is a cold water heater!
Thank you for the sharing your shop progress, Keith.
Appreciate your style of thinking and moving on. It helps me to get my passion for moving on with personal projects.
Wish you to get the shop finished and started for the new projects.
Thanks - time will get the shop to where I want it to be. As with most things, all I need is more time and money.....
...time an money...
classic )))
I'm speechless in just how special this shop is going to be to when it's in the final steps of completion.
Thanks - I am pretty proud of how it is turning out!
The shop is really coming along. It has been great following the build!
Hello Keith,
As usual a very nice Odd&Ends with lots of interesting items and also great that you did make a very long one. Good to see the good progress in the shop and specially that you have to do it on your own.
Besides a week ago I bought me my first digital caliper, not an expensive one ( about 35 euro's ) but it works well for the purpose I use it. I did want an digital one because now I can switch between metric and inches.
But again and like usual thanx for the great video and looking forward to the next one.
Many greetings from Roel ( out of an very rainy Netherlands ).
The metric/inch function is really nice on the digital calipers - they are nice to have around. I still prefer my dial calipers for day to day work, but I keep a set of digital ones for metric work.
The turret mounted turning tool is commonly called a boyer after its manufacturer, the Boyer Machine & Tool Co.
great shop update , And those boxes and tools date way back .. Thumbs up !
Thanks Shawn!
What the little Hammer as you called it may actually be the top end of the broken compass as it looked like just the spring broke.
Thanks - I think you are right!
Well done Keith!!!
Wow Greenfield brings me memory's a lot of because they were on Canal St in New York and we would order a lot of stuff from them for the tool room.
They made some good stuff!
Great Video. I think the miniature "hammer" is actually the pivot pin for the broken compass. The hammer handle looks like it extended through the C spring to form the top piece you would spin the compass with. Proper use aside you could always send it to Tom for his hammer collection.
Keep up the great work,
Cheers fro New Zealand.
That would make sense!
Great video, thanks for sharing the old tool box and its contents. I love old tools and really love to see the old machinist books. The shop is looking good, I must say I would love a space like that, I know you will put it to good use. Thank you for another great video.
dunno if anyone gives a damn but if you're bored like me atm then you can watch pretty much all the new series on instaflixxer. Have been streaming with my gf during the lockdown xD
@Ephraim Wells Yup, been watching on InstaFlixxer for years myself =)
Keith,
The five sided tool is a broach. I have some for clock repair. That is a fairly large one. You will find it works good in brass.
Scott
Somebody else mentioned this as well. I knew I had seen one before but it was not coming to me when I was holding it in my hand. Thanks!
Love the shop I am jealous Can't wait to see with all the tools in their home
Thanks - I cannot wait either!
Great video Keith! I enjoyed you talking about old tool chest!
Fun stuff!
Great swag selection! Some interesting almost historic items. Love the tool box.
Shop looking good. Can well imagine what a big job it is - you just have to nibble at it, bit at a time as you are doing. You must have plenty of energy with all you do.
As he story goes - Question: How do you eat an elephant? Answer: One bite at a time. I am just taking one bite at a time on the old shop project....
In my experience, the Sucrets tins in well used tool boxes always held something interesting. I've trained myself to spot that brand through a thick layer of rust and grime so I can be sure to look inside whenever I see one at an estate sale.
Yes, people used those old tins for all kinds of things - usually to hold something treasured.
Good update Keith. I had sent you the vid of my shop being spray foamed. Based on what I paid and my shop is the same size, I would guess they will want to do 5" of open cell for around $2500-$3000
I wish that was even close to what they quoted me for the open cell foam - over twice that....
i love more and more your shop, tanks for sharing the work in progress.
Great video Keith. Love watching you, Adam (Abom79) and Tom (OX Tool Co). I've learned a lot from each one of your videos. Thank you.
Thank you Kyle!
Nice update and the Shop looks Great so far!
Thanks!
Did I see a horizontal Romex run in the bathroom!? I certainly understand when you get to a point where it'll be covered and there is a huge beam to go through up top. Just fooling with ya Keith. Everything looks great and we're all waiting to see chips flying. Oh, and Happy Birthday Sir!
Thank you for the birthday wishes!
THANK YOU...for sharing.
Thanks YOU for watching!
The morse taper thing with the square hole might be for taking a drill bit with a square tang. I have a similar thing with a straight 1/2" shank that fits in an antique hand-crank drill press.
Very possible!
Some nice gifts there Keith especially the wooden toolbox. The shop is coming on bit by bit. When winter comes you will get a bit more time inside. I have a 12" brass scale that is 5/16" thick and 1-1/8" wide and it is only marked out in 1/8" increments.. Its a really nice thing to have but too heavy to use everyday. regards from the UK
It is getting so hot down here this time of year, about the only time I can stand to be in the shop is in the mornings before things heat up.
The crayon is a yellow lumber crayon used in the sawmills. It also comes in blue and is a favorite of old surveyors for marking the tops of grade stakes. Rodmen on survey crews always carried a yellow lumber crayon for marking distance on road surfaces and sidewalks. Today surveyors no longer use the old transits and levels it is all done with base stations and satellite coordinates.
From day one I never liked those wooden tool boxes. I have seen more tools hit the floor because sooner or later some one pulls the draw out too far and dumps all the precious tools on the floor. Kennedy has the right idea!
Keith, I have a Gerstner box very similar to that one. Same drawer pattern and all.
I am pretty sure that the larger box that I have had for a while was made by Union and the one I just got was made by Pilliod.
The 5 sided reamer Looks like a tool I have saw click spring use
shop is looking great!!
I didn't search thru all the comments, but the "tiny hammer" is the top of that broken compass.
Working by yourself is not an excuse for slow progress, or at least so I am told. LOL Currently the consensus seems that my new shop will be far too small.I guess I will just have to build with a possible expansion in mind as funding certainly would not permit that now.
Brian, its not that the shop will be too small, its just that all your machines are too big! :-)
l wilton
Machines can never be too big. ;-) I only work in the world of 1/4-20 and up, its a shop rule. lol
The 1/4-20 rule. Definitely in the top 5 of shop rules..
It may be no excuse, but I can tell you that when I have one person helping while framing, it goes at least three times faster.... One person cutting and another nailing sure saves a lot of steps and climbs up a ladder....
Keith Rucker - VintageMachinery.org
I hear ya, I know for a fact I have been up and down my ladders thousands of times putting up the siding and I am not even half done yet. I finished planting here this week so hopefully I can get back to making some good progress again. I hope you have had some time to get done what you wanted and I look forward to the next update. :-)
BTW, love your new shop.
Here is a nother Randy that would injoy meeting you, Maybe some day, I would let you know far in advance, And to see your new shop would be something to see, I know you cant wait to start working in your new shop, Same here. Stay safe and keep on keeping on.
Thanks Randy!
Glad the ingot pattern made it okay. I'm slowly but surely gathering the supplies needed to make sand molds and pouring metal so that the videos that I will be making for youtube can be illustrated well. I already have two vids made, but am waiting until I have at least 5 made before I start uploading them on a weekly basis. Wish me luck.
And I am your first subscriber. From what you have shown and taught Keith, and all the other help you gave him, I am more than willing to take a chance on your channel being a great one!
Thanks for your vote of confidence! Just finished making my 12 X 12 wooden flask yesterday, which was a standard size that we used the most in the Navy. I still have to make a bottom board, a molding board, a couple of Sprue covers and then I'll be able to start making the molding bench and after that, the furnace. I still have a lot to do so keep your eyes open. Thanks!
I have subscribed as well in anticipation of all the great things to be learned. You will be happy to know that am back to working on the furnace now that I have things caught up in working on the shop until I can get my insulation installed!
Hi Keith, that toolbox looks very similar to my own box which is a "EMIR".
Regards, Rich Kellow.
UK.
The box I just got I am pretty sure is made by Pilliod and the other chest is made by Union.
Hi Keith, i think the rounded T slots cutters are oil way cutters. Please correct me if I'm wrong.Grtz, Ludo from Belgium
Could be!
The nice thing about the older wooden machinists chests is that they are generally made from quarter-sawn white oak. Because they are quarter-sawn (each board is on, or close to, a radius of the original log) they tend to be extremely dimensionally stable and free from warping and cupping. I suppose that Gerstner still makes chests in that way, but they have lent their name (as Gerstner International) to a line of plain-sawn red oak chests that will be prone to warping and swelling over the years. The Gerstner International chests are frequently sold by catalog companies that don't really understand machinists.
The chest I just got is not made from quartersawn wood, my older one is. Quartersawn white oak is superior in many ways over red oak - quartersawn or not!
Yeah, I always suspect red oak of giving off something that can corrode steel (unless oiled to a fare-thee-well). Plus it is extremely porous. If you split off (so the grain follows the length) an 8" wand of dry red oak, you can dip it in a glass of water and blow bubbles just like it was a soda-straw. (That's one way to test whether you have red or white oak. Color of the wood is not a reliable indicator.)
You mention grinding the HSS cutting tools to custom shapes. I recently watched the safe videos, and when you were cutting the radius in the dial with a round tip cutter, I wondered if you had made that yourself, and if so, how. Specifically, how you would get a consistent radius on the tip? Perhaps an interesting future video would deal with grinding the custom shapes. (If you haven't already done one - I am still new here, and working my way through the previous videos.)
The reamer could be a clockmakers broach, but check the angle on it, as it might also be a tapered pin reamer - clock broaches are usually only a very slight angle. I'm sure you run into tapered pins locating parts on the vintage stuff you work on.
Could be - I have plenty of tapered pin reamers, so I could check it against one of those.
The 5-sided reamer is a clockmaker's reamer. I think.
Several have also suggested that!
37:09 Puppydog found something exciting! lol I see him/her happily trotting away carrying something.
The dogs and cat are often running around in the background when I am out in the shop working....
You can repair the compass pretty easily using one of those round clips that Tom Lipton showed us at some point. So to be clear, a black barrel spring that's, oh...4 cm long 1.5 OD with two stamped wedges passing inside acting both as handles and teeth.
I used one to repair an old compass of mine, you just have to cut a piece to the correct width from the "tube" spring and then notch and drill it. Did mine in little under an hour with a drill and some files.
Also, it's not a tiny tiny hammer, that's the rocker from the compass.
Fix it, it's a pity, that's a good compass.
Nice of people to chip in funds wise, gives Keith opportunities to create more youtube content as well with the progression of the Workshop. There's still some good folks out there in the world.
Don't get me wrong because I really enjoy watching Keith and admire his work. No bad feelings in anyway shape or form.........but how much does he need? LOL
Tom Wilcox A lot i should imagine considering the size of the workshop, also as he's independently doing it and it's not a building part of large franchise i assume there's no big discounts with the labour involved. Either way good people appreciated.
Indeed, very nice - and not asked for. Got a quote on the insulation yesterday and it is going to take me a while to save up, or I am going to have to finance it. I hate to borrow any more money on the project, so it will probably have to wait....
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Hey Keith, the shop seems to be progressing nicely and I'm sure that most of us are jealous. I thought of an item that you may not have considered and that is fire protection. It is a great time to install a fire riser. You can contact your local fire department to find out what size riser they can connect to. I found out that most fire engines have only about 2 minutes of water on board, after that they are done fire fighting. It's good to have a your own hose so that you could try to suppress any fire while waiting for the professionals.
+Keith Rucker - VintageMachinery.org I think you misunderstood me. I meant how many tools do you need? I would never ask about someone's money situation. I am a retired mechanic of 35 years. I know what having a lot of tools mean. If you need them or not you take all you can get! Thanks
@Keith Rucker The names "graffitti" you found on the draws of the engineer's toolbox; it was customary / normal in a large machine shop, for the owner of the toolbox to put their name on the draws, to prevent some light fingered workmate from swapping their draws for yours! :-) Quite likely that each owner of the box might have done this too.
that "little hammer" is not a hammer its the top of the broken Compass it gos in the top of the arms and the broken circle spring holds the arms on to it
You are correct - I did not recognize it at first....
Thank you for the video, I really like your humble attitude. Is there more than one opening for the storage area over the bathroom? I think that it might be a good idea to have a door from the middle of the shop. That would make it easier to see what's there and also simplify loading long stuff. Just a thought. Keep up the good work!
I thought about putting a door on that side but I am I planing on putting some storage shelves in the area that would be right below the door, which would be in the way of good access.
getting it done
Hey Keith - love your site and I've learned a lot. I've always loved steam locomotives ever since my grandfather used to take me to the local train station to watch the trains and SP had a lot of Pacifics back then, on the short haul freight and commuter lines and they a very are lovely design with wonderful symmetry and balance. Many were donated to local parks and fairgrounds around the state instead of scrapped and many have been placed back into active service.
Any way the real reason I'm writing is I just scored a really nice Simplex 41S at an estate sale for 50 bucks and I was wondering if you had any ideas about the vintage?
Not sure about when Simplex vises were made. They look to be nice though!
Regarding the wall in the middle of the shop. Why not have a tarp draped/attached with hooks on a wire somehow? Easy to remove if bigger things are moved, and stop noise and air flow when outer doors are opened.
Advice from one who has ried many things: If you put a bigger piece of tarp/similar material to protect from wind/snow drift and things like that, and it is removed by the wind on occasion. Make a tear in the fabric oriented top to bottom but only a few feet long. Space them even and with a distance of a few feet.Does not let snow and rain pass but keeps the tarp/ fabric in good shape without beeing torn.The key to come up with this idea? Have you ever seen toilet paper rip in the perforation?
If nothing else, that could be a good temporary solution to the problem!
Looking good!! Greg
Thanks Greg!
The decimal/fraction conversion table on the front of the tool box from Frederick Post was sized to fit a parallel straightedge on a drafting table. Usually peel and stick. No doubt some cross pollination between engineering and toolmaking.
your spray foam guy will probably do it below cost or free if you hang a sign for him.
i would if i were closer to you.
i'm the son of a tool and die maker and spent many hours in his shop helping and really enjoy you Keith.
I wish they would give me a deal, but the truth is that I am so far off of any main road, very few people would ever see a sign if I were to hang one.....
that toolbox is just too cool!
Agreed!
My grandpa years ago related to me that U&J carbs were on Model T Fords
Good to know!
Pretty sure your "teenie tiny hammer" is actually the pivot for the compass.
Yes, I am pretty sure that is what it is as well now!
Keith,
Those scissors are likely Vom Cleff & Co., a well known German cutting implement manufacturer for years past. Company was founded by Robert Vom Cleff and was in business from 1873 to around 1930. They are also likely made of sterling silver and are HIGHLY collectible. They made all types of shears, hair cutting shears, grooming products such as straight razors and the like as well as pocket knives and other things like that. Given that, those MIGHT be nose/ear hair clippers. Could be wrong though.
You got me to wondering when you said sterling silver.... No such luck, these are all steel (unless a magnet sticks to sterling sliver...)
Noooope, SS isn't magnetic and actually I meant to type 'possibly' and not 'likely' lol. I know their "fancy" shears for hair, the handles were SS so I thought their other implements might be as well. Still though, a pair of Vom Cleff's would be a great thing to add to a box of knick knacks. :-D
Will you have a door between the 2 parts of your shop? If yes, won't you need switches there to turn off the lights of the part you live and turn on the second part?
About your storage above the bathroom, it looks that the door for the storage is above the door of the bathroom. Wouldn't it better to have the doors on different sides? So when you have a ladder to access the storage you don't block the access to the bathroom.
Yes, there will be a door between the two parts of the shop - and I already have switches mounted so that you can turn on lights either way you walk through the door - the switches are on the back side of the posts. As for the door to the storage area, it will rarely ever be used so I am not worrying about blocking the bathroom door from time to time - I am pretty much the only person who will be using it so no big deal. Besides, my plans for the other areas that I could have put a door will block having a ladder there to gain access to the top.
keith,
consider security system (intrusion, fire, and surveillance) wiring before you button up. Plus an intercom system.
Also, may want to consider running some cat6 around the shop. You may one day get something CNC... Or set up cameras to do some filming for the channel. Network cables are easy to run now, but a nightmare after you spray insulation. Or even put in some plastic conduit just to have a path for future use.
The shop will be connected to the security system we already have in the house.
Another great video. Thank you for the time and effort that you put into these. What are your plans for heat and air in the new shop? Being a Georgia resident myself I am well aware of humidity being an enemy of machinery and tools.
I hope to one day be able to add a heat pump in the shop - but that will probably be a ways down the road when I get so many of the other things done and my budget has recovered some!
Wall between the shop halves: I bet at some point you will want a big door there. But I also bet that you don't even want to think about the cost of another roll door at this point. You could put up a temporary fabric/canvas door for not very much, at least compared to a metal roll door.
You would most likely want (even if not required by local laws) to flameproof the canvas, but that isn't hard to do, and you can probably get the necessary chemical at the local hardware or farm supply store for not much. Or I can find you an online link.
About all you need is a sheet of duck, a 1" or 1 1/4" pipe, some rope, and a few cheap pullies. Probably can do the whole thing for under $200 or less. I know even that is a sizable amount, but it could last you 5 years or so while you decide if you want something more substantial.
I have been looking at door options. Not sure which way I am going to go yet...
the shop is looking good
Thank you Jerry!
Shop progress is looking nice, you're doing a fine job!
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you should do an open house when you get done with your shop I would love to come and see it
I am looking into do something like that - no plans yet as I want to get the shop a good bit farther along first.
I've never seen a brass scale either, not in person anyway. But there's an English blacksmith I am subscribed to, Rowan Taylor, and he uses a brass scale.
Neat - come to think of it, I have seen a blacksmith brass scale before, but never one for a machinist.
hammer? its the pivot for the broken divider
Yes, that is what it is - I did not recognize it at first!
Hi Keith
I have noticed that you don't have any noggins in the wall frames our building code requires them between the studs is that not required in the US ?
Cheers Dave
The exterior walls have noggins / fireblocks, but the interior walls are still being fitted with wiring, outlets, etc. Presumably noggins will be installed in those walls once the electrical & plumbing have been installed.
As stated, the exterior walls do have them, and I will be installing them on the interior walls. One thing at a time....
Would you mind sharing what products you used to do the floor in your shop? I need to do something to the floor in my garage but like you I don't want to do epoxy.
"Clear Seal" by Increte Systems.
Looks to me like the students are taking good care of the good teacher, as well as other good teachers adding to the whole thing. Everything done is done. Anything beats nothing. Slow is better than no. Keep on grinding away. The cat is still gnawing on the grindstone.
Good care indeed - still blows my mind....
Keith Rucker - VintageMachinery.org I've always used a saying that my first wife couldn't stand and it was and still is 'You get what you pay for'. Paybacks can be rough BUT they can be really good too! Carry on there, Teach! The proof is in the puddin'!
Great video! Did you plan on putting a light in the storage area above the room? Just brainstorming.
I already have a light up there!
Lard Oil.. interesting stuff..
Thanks for the video
Thanks for watching!
I'm talking about hanging in the shop so it would be on camera occasionally
I life in europe where a plug is 240 v. Is it way better than 130 v in the us?
Europe uses 240 V 50 Hz. This has the advantage that the wires are smaller than 120 for the same power draw., because the amperage is halved.
Hammer? Caliper standard.
Actually, several have commented and they are correct - it is the top of the compass that was broken.
Something in book at page 79. In video at 28.22 Also something b/t pages 116 & 117
There are multiple clippings and such tucked in that book.