It’s my grandparents’ native language. If you are learning it to do anything other than speak to others, it’s completely not worth it, it’s almost as hard as Hokkien, Cantonese, Mandarin and Arabic.
I started learning Japanese half a year ago. I don't have one big reason for why but I enjoy doing it a little everyday as it gives a sense of fulfillment staying consistent with my long term goal. I don't know if I'll work in Japan, maybe I can use it with my soon to come masters degree, maybe not. I'm not doing intense ajatting because that just seems dreadful. But do my anki and my workbooks, and I watch a little anime every day because I enjoy it. So my dogma is just to enjoy the process of learning, even if it's gonna take me a bit of extra time.
Yeah that sounds great nothing wrong with doing something just cos you enjoy it! Intesnse ajatting is terrible and barely enjoyable which is why i say its not worth it if you dont have an end goal of what you wanna use your japanese for haha
@@bassie6559 Yes I'm doing pretty well. I've been doing workbooks, Japanese from zero1-5, Quartet 1 and 2 and Tobira, now I'm working on n2 books. I've been doing a rtk deck on Anki I finished long time ago now for kanji, and I'm almost done with the last of the three core2k/6k decks. I was in Japan 6 months for exchange and got to speak alot, met many Japanese speakers since. I can hold conversations now no problem, but still struggle to understand natural fast paced Japanese when watching content - despite listening to a ton of podcasts. I'm just gonna continue with my Anki grind for a year more maybe. As well as doing my workbooks on the weekends and watching unsubbed anime every now and then. It's slow and steady progress but I can do this while living a normal life. Good luck to you!
Quite a provoking title but I found the video really informative and I appreciate your honesty! Even Matt vs. Japan felt like he wasted 5 years of his life learning Japanese (check his 3 hour video) and it seems like he still regrets it. If someone told me they wanna learn Japanese for anime I'd recommend them to just stick to using subtitles or dub because it's not worth it JUST for anime in my opinion.
I just wanted a new hobby 🤷🏻♀️ I wanted to try skateboarding but my dad was like "Nah, too dangerous." Japanese is a combination of things I already like so I thought why not. It's been half a year and I'm having way more fun than I expected. Not everything u learn has to useful. Somethings are just fun passion projects. Hobbies are a valid use of ur time
Straight faccs dude, for 99.999% of people Japanese is just a hobby or at least not necessary to survive or socialize. That's not bad, but it means that if you don't genuinely enjoy it it's a massive fucking waste of time. Just think of any other hobby like that.... You spent 5 years playing *insert game* for multiple hours a day AND because you didn't have the intrinsic motivation you had to push yourself and didn't enjoy it much of the time lmao congratz
I mean I like anime and genuinely enjoy the culture and hope to visit(not live) in japan once the world opens up. I’ve been studying for a year now using immersion learning and have really been genuinely enjoying my time. Before I was wasting a lot of time playing video games, watching TH-cam, and anime with subs. Now I spend the time that I would be doing those things with learning Japanese. I have always very much so enjoyed the process and it never felt like I HAD to immerse. It doesn’t matter what anyone’s reasons for doing it are. If you are having fun and if it’s way more productive compared to what you were doing before than who cares about your reasons for doing it
Yeah if you are enjoying the process I reckon thats enough reason to do it too! The main thing that triggered me to make this vid was getting messages from a lot of people saying they hate immersing and they just wanna be good at Japanese but they had really no reason for wanting to be good. So for those people i think its not worth it
I'm currently in france and I'd like to move either to USA, UK or Japan, and I have the opposite problem, when I play video games or watch english videos im feeling like I'm waisting my time, I feel guilty, but when I start immersing, even when its not fun, I get this satisfaction feeling that I'm currenlty doing something productive and I like it a lot, I'm not a tryhard "immerser" though I still hang out with friends and play video games with them, like you said my goal isnt to waist 5 years of my life, but to use those ~3 hours where im doing nothing in the first place to replace them with something productive with results im proud of. (I dont wanna be that guy, but sorry if my english is not flawless)
Ironically so many people feeling the need to justify themselves in the comments. Dont view the action off taking 2000-5000 hours off your lifeclock so easily. We're talking about several percents of all the free time youll ever have in your life used up for a skill you wont even apply. If youre really about that life you shouldnt have to try and justify yourself to Aussieman in the comments.
5:00 - I laughed so hard, because it sounded funny, but it's kinda sad at the same moment. People losing themselves in things they think they like and end up not knowing why they did it in the first place. I've been binge-watching your videos lately and I like them for the no bullshit approach and straightforwardness which is kinda rare in the language learning community, especially Japanese one.
For someone who has been working a corporate job for 7 years I can say with honesty, an undergraduate degree is useless once you get your first job. Unless you are doing med or law I can say that learning a language is far more valuable as a life skill. It unlocks you to see a side of culture and people you would never know about otherwise. Another thing is the fallacy of thinking by doing something else, you will be equally as productive. The reality is that you could bum around for the next several years and do nothing at all. The ones giving their all into Japanese are probably the same ones who hustle and will achieve all their goals, meanwhile the ones who do nothing at all with will remain doing nothing.
I agree completely with what you say. But, I am one of those people who just want to learn a little of it, as a hobby, using my retirement time, and to do something that is good for people who are getting old.
As someone who just turned 30 and basically did nothing with my 20s other than lose a substantial amount of weight I wanted to climb the highest mountain I could possibly climb. So I asked myself but what? In order to change your life you have to change yourself. I looked around my room at the games, posters, references and in every corner there it was. Japanese writing I can't read. I have always had a problem with attention deficit, (I very rarely finish anything I start) and always wanted to pour my heart into something and come out the other side years later and say. "Fuck yeah man, look what you did" and so I decided no matter what it took. I would use one of the most difficult challenges I could find to change my bad habits into good ones, install an insane amount of discipline and learn how to learn something. I am only one year in but what I can tell you is that this is one of the most valuable things I have ever done to my brain. Japanese knowledge is secondary to the exponential gains I have received from pursuing something I have always wanted. No matter how difficult it is, it has given me so much confidence in myself and makes me excited for all the other ways it will alter the shape of my future.
As a guy with adhd who just recently got diagnosed in my mid twenties, I wanted to say your comment resonated a lot with me. I'm only 2 months in, but the changes I've made already towards fixing my bad habits and being a more productive person have been enormous. I feel like I've wasted my whole life up until now, and I've just woken up. Hopefully I can transfer this motivation and discipline that I'm getting from Japanese to other aspects of my life too. By the way how are you doing these days? Did you keep up with Japanese?
I'm not learning Japanese, but this video lines up well with what my goals are for 2022. I'm hitting an intermediate level in my target language and I've just realized that I've lost sight of the original purpose. For a while making progress fulfilled me enough. Even though I still made progress in 2021, it just wasn't satisfying. I don't really have too much trouble getting motivated, but I do think I need to make things more meaningful again.
This video pretty much summarizes what I said to you about a month ago when I was chatting with you on discord. I really had no reason except I liked the culture, thought it looked like a really cool place, and wanted to visit there sometime. Which isn't really a good reason since I don't want to work there or any of that. Living there sounds fun but its very far away and I have no family/relatives who live there. I'll do what you said which is like wait some months or even a year and maybe I'll want to do it then. Don't get me wrong, I really want to learn Japanese now but I enjoy none of the content I watch. #1 reason why is because I can't understand any of it which is expected and #2 all of its boring, because the content I watch in English, I can completely understand all of it and its enjoyable to watch because I could listen to the youtuber talk about their day or what they are going to do in the game. With Japanese its a completely different story, I can't understand any of it and only watching gameplay or someone talk is boring as fuck in my opinion. Besides that, like I said I might come back to it later, but for now I'll stick with other hobbies, like working out and such, but thanks for making this video! Now that I think of it, if I finally got fluent, it would be lame because like you said, I would be like oh cool I can learn Japanese, but weeks or months later I have no fucking reason to learn it. Like there are like no Japanese speakers in America, like you can't just go to your local McDonalds and ask for someone to speak Japanese for you, since there is little to no one that does. So that would be kinda sad knowing that I wasted years of my life just for another language. But yeah like I said thanks for making this and I'm sorry if you had to read this absolute essay of a comment
I'm learning it in the hopes that The JET program comes back to my country end of year. And I'm enjoying it so much I actively study 8 to 13 hours a week (with a full time job)
@@baki9191 I have actually heard that but I am still learning in the hopes that my interest in the country boosts my points and if by some 1% chance I get to go I can get around comfortably there. (But where I am it's still a small chance that they even come here for people)
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My cousin had a master degree from a university in the US and up until now when she's already more than 30 years old, She still haven't worked for any company yet. When she was in a top class (and expensive) university in our country Vietnam, she also tried to learn Chinese the traditional way but eventually she quit. Then 3 years ago she married to a Chinese and regretted not learning it properly.
The stuff about DJT is pretty true lmao. But honestly, competition is pretty fun. Learning Japanese is fun as well. Who cares if it’s “useless”, most of the things we do are. As long as you don’t let it consume you, then it’s fine IMO.
Its fine just as like you said you dont let it consume you. But when you storm into peoples discords and try to challenge their kanji knowledge to make yourself feel like a legend cos you know more abstract kanji than everyone thats when its a problem lmao
I think there's no objective "good" or "bad" reason. Some people got fluent for the sake of anime, other people never got past the beginner stage even though they plan to live in Japan. The question is just how motivated they are by their goal, no matter what it is. I'm personally on my way to hitting 1000 hours for the "mere" sake of 乙女ゲーム but it fulfills me and I've never felt like I'm wasting time. (I agree that people who constantly complain should probably re-examine their reasons tho) As always, interesting video, keep it up👍
For me, it took discovering a passion for translation as a hobby and career choice, and working in a shit work environment to kick my ass into gear. My biggest issue when I first started was that my intentions and my goals weren't clear, I didn't understand how to go about the process and put all the expectations I had for language learning onto my teachers instead of setting clear goals and expectations for myself. With flimsy motivations you'll never get anything done. If you want to learn Japanese to consume native content, like anime novels etc, that's an okay motivation but it needs to be a strong enough desire and clear enough for that to be of any use. Part of what keeps me motivated and excited to learn Japanese is that its like a window into a world that not everyone has access to, and having access to it means that I can learn something and share it with others. For me, that's exciting and pushes me to keep going even on the tough days. It's not as simple as "I just want to be able to watch anime without subs". I don't wanna go back to a shit job either. If you wanna learn Japanese to watch anime, find a way to make that goal more clear and concise, what about anime makes you want to learn Japanese specifically? Why would understanding anime in its native language be a good thing? Break it down
looking jacked in the thumbnail dude! definitely needed a little kick in the ass to get my priorities straight! gonna need an honest sit down with myself! lol bro DJT crowd in 3...2...1....
I wish this mindset would be shared among different communities. In this age, a lot of people feel a sense of "insignificance" so they'll try to thrive in things just for the sole purpose of being admired, even if the goal itself is absolutely dumb, like those who throw cards at a cd port from a distance and they'll spend hours to get in, yeah, I get the you're feeling satisfied, but how could you be so irresponsible of the most valuable asset you have right now; your time. This video should be a wake-up call for everyone, but I fear it's phrased in a way that it leaves a crack for those who'll try to rationalize their irrationalities, I bet there are some people who currently enjoy learning Japanese for the sole reason of enjoyment so they'll brush the idea presented in this video off and they'll set a rational goal for themselves to justify continuing their learning. I was one of them, I enjoyed learning Japanese, but in the middle my enjoyment began to fade and my only motivation was that it feels like a far more waste not to finish what I started in the first place. I genuinely wish people think in this mindset in everything they do, what a great video, thanks.
Harsh perspective, but it rings true! Language is a long-term commitment which requires serious effort. One needs to assess goals and evaluate what the true priorities are for one's future. Oh, on the note of DJT, they certainly are toxic and can be braggarts, I cannot disagree there. XD I briefly spent time there after I encountered them last year, and I will be forever thankful that they urged me to get into reading, but had no desire to be 'corrupted' by their ways of thinking. They hammer on reading, but then backpeddle and say things such as "Manga is not reading" when it's literally reading material made for natives. Anyone who's been dedicated in the immersion journey and spent time watching Japanese TH-camrs, anime, listening to podcasts, watching Jdrama, reading manga and light novels, and 'playing' visual novels has ended up succeeding. I believe listening, speaking, and reading are all the most crucial aspects in overall language learning and they all need to be developed and refined. Not disregarding writing, but it's pretty niche imo. For instance, when would you need to write in Japanese if you don't live there? If you had a penpal there, just desire to keep a journal, or want to go into calligraphy, sure. Otherwise, not worth it. PS. Mentioned this before, I think, but fuck ADHD which makes immersion x10 harder than it should be. XD Don't struggle with motivation, but to keep attention in even native material, never mind Japanese, makes this a greater challenge, haha. But will reach those goals!
"Nerds & Vergins" - Aussieman Chaos Covington
Learning a language is never a waste
It can be, but usually it isn't
It’s my grandparents’ native language. If you are learning it to do anything other than speak to others, it’s completely not worth it, it’s almost as hard as Hokkien, Cantonese, Mandarin and Arabic.
I started learning Japanese half a year ago. I don't have one big reason for why but I enjoy doing it a little everyday as it gives a sense of fulfillment staying consistent with my long term goal. I don't know if I'll work in Japan, maybe I can use it with my soon to come masters degree, maybe not. I'm not doing intense ajatting because that just seems dreadful. But do my anki and my workbooks, and I watch a little anime every day because I enjoy it. So my dogma is just to enjoy the process of learning, even if it's gonna take me a bit of extra time.
Yeah that sounds great nothing wrong with doing something just cos you enjoy it! Intesnse ajatting is terrible and barely enjoyable which is why i say its not worth it if you dont have an end goal of what you wanna use your japanese for haha
can you speak it yet?
@@bassie6559 Yes I'm doing pretty well. I've been doing workbooks, Japanese from zero1-5, Quartet 1 and 2 and Tobira, now I'm working on n2 books. I've been doing a rtk deck on Anki I finished long time ago now for kanji, and I'm almost done with the last of the three core2k/6k decks. I was in Japan 6 months for exchange and got to speak alot, met many Japanese speakers since. I can hold conversations now no problem, but still struggle to understand natural fast paced Japanese when watching content - despite listening to a ton of podcasts. I'm just gonna continue with my Anki grind for a year more maybe. As well as doing my workbooks on the weekends and watching unsubbed anime every now and then. It's slow and steady progress but I can do this while living a normal life. Good luck to you!
Quite a provoking title but I found the video really informative and I appreciate your honesty! Even Matt vs. Japan felt like he wasted 5 years of his life learning Japanese (check his 3 hour video) and it seems like he still regrets it. If someone told me they wanna learn Japanese for anime I'd recommend them to just stick to using subtitles or dub because it's not worth it JUST for anime in my opinion.
I just wanted a new hobby 🤷🏻♀️ I wanted to try skateboarding but my dad was like "Nah, too dangerous."
Japanese is a combination of things I already like so I thought why not. It's been half a year and I'm having way more fun than I expected.
Not everything u learn has to useful. Somethings are just fun passion projects. Hobbies are a valid use of ur time
Yes, Ianguage learning as a hobbie is totally valid as any other like videogames, movies, painitng, playing an instrument, reading, sports, etc.
Straight faccs dude, for 99.999% of people Japanese is just a hobby or at least not necessary to survive or socialize. That's not bad, but it means that if you don't genuinely enjoy it it's a massive fucking waste of time. Just think of any other hobby like that.... You spent 5 years playing *insert game* for multiple hours a day AND because you didn't have the intrinsic motivation you had to push yourself and didn't enjoy it much of the time lmao congratz
I mean I like anime and genuinely enjoy the culture and hope to visit(not live) in japan once the world opens up. I’ve been studying for a year now using immersion learning and have really been genuinely enjoying my time. Before I was wasting a lot of time playing video games, watching TH-cam, and anime with subs. Now I spend the time that I would be doing those things with learning Japanese. I have always very much so enjoyed the process and it never felt like I HAD to immerse. It doesn’t matter what anyone’s reasons for doing it are. If you are having fun and if it’s way more productive compared to what you were doing before than who cares about your reasons for doing it
Yeah if you are enjoying the process I reckon thats enough reason to do it too! The main thing that triggered me to make this vid was getting messages from a lot of people saying they hate immersing and they just wanna be good at Japanese but they had really no reason for wanting to be good. So for those people i think its not worth it
@@oojiman that makes complete sense!
I'm currently in france and I'd like to move either to USA, UK or Japan, and I have the opposite problem, when I play video games or watch english videos im feeling like I'm waisting my time, I feel guilty, but when I start immersing, even when its not fun, I get this satisfaction feeling that I'm currenlty doing something productive and I like it a lot, I'm not a tryhard "immerser" though I still hang out with friends and play video games with them, like you said my goal isnt to waist 5 years of my life, but to use those ~3 hours where im doing nothing in the first place to replace them with something productive with results im proud of. (I dont wanna be that guy, but sorry if my english is not flawless)
Ironically so many people feeling the need to justify themselves in the comments. Dont view the action off taking 2000-5000 hours off your lifeclock so easily. We're talking about several percents of all the free time youll ever have in your life used up for a skill you wont even apply. If youre really about that life you shouldnt have to try and justify yourself to Aussieman in the comments.
5:00 - I laughed so hard, because it sounded funny, but it's kinda sad at the same moment. People losing themselves in things they think they like and end up not knowing why they did it in the first place. I've been binge-watching your videos lately and I like them for the no bullshit approach and straightforwardness which is kinda rare in the language learning community, especially Japanese one.
Yeah nah its sad people are really like that in the language learning community isnt it haha. I'm glad to hear you've been enjoying the videos too!
For someone who has been working a corporate job for 7 years I can say with honesty, an undergraduate degree is useless once you get your first job. Unless you are doing med or law I can say that learning a language is far more valuable as a life skill. It unlocks you to see a side of culture and people you would never know about otherwise. Another thing is the fallacy of thinking by doing something else, you will be equally as productive. The reality is that you could bum around for the next several years and do nothing at all. The ones giving their all into Japanese are probably the same ones who hustle and will achieve all their goals, meanwhile the ones who do nothing at all with will remain doing nothing.
I agree completely with what you say. But, I am one of those people who just want to learn a little of it, as a hobby, using my retirement time, and to do something that is good for people who are getting old.
Master it in five years? More like 20+ years.
As someone who just turned 30 and basically did nothing with my 20s other than lose a substantial amount of weight I wanted to climb the highest mountain I could possibly climb. So I asked myself but what? In order to change your life you have to change yourself. I looked around my room at the games, posters, references and in every corner there it was. Japanese writing I can't read. I have always had a problem with attention deficit, (I very rarely finish anything I start) and always wanted to pour my heart into something and come out the other side years later and say. "Fuck yeah man, look what you did" and so I decided no matter what it took. I would use one of the most difficult challenges I could find to change my bad habits into good ones, install an insane amount of discipline and learn how to learn something. I am only one year in but what I can tell you is that this is one of the most valuable things I have ever done to my brain. Japanese knowledge is secondary to the exponential gains I have received from pursuing something I have always wanted. No matter how difficult it is, it has given me so much confidence in myself and makes me excited for all the other ways it will alter the shape of my future.
As a guy with adhd who just recently got diagnosed in my mid twenties, I wanted to say your comment resonated a lot with me. I'm only 2 months in, but the changes I've made already towards fixing my bad habits and being a more productive person have been enormous. I feel like I've wasted my whole life up until now, and I've just woken up. Hopefully I can transfer this motivation and discipline that I'm getting from Japanese to other aspects of my life too. By the way how are you doing these days? Did you keep up with Japanese?
learning japanese is a cope to deal with loneliness and inkweldom
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I'm not learning Japanese, but this video lines up well with what my goals are for 2022. I'm hitting an intermediate level in my target language and I've just realized that I've lost sight of the original purpose. For a while making progress fulfilled me enough. Even though I still made progress in 2021, it just wasn't satisfying. I don't really have too much trouble getting motivated, but I do think I need to make things more meaningful again.
This video pretty much summarizes what I said to you about a month ago when I was chatting with you on discord. I really had no reason except I liked the culture, thought it looked like a really cool place, and wanted to visit there sometime. Which isn't really a good reason since I don't want to work there or any of that. Living there sounds fun but its very far away and I have no family/relatives who live there. I'll do what you said which is like wait some months or even a year and maybe I'll want to do it then. Don't get me wrong, I really want to learn Japanese now but I enjoy none of the content I watch. #1 reason why is because I can't understand any of it which is expected and #2 all of its boring, because the content I watch in English, I can completely understand all of it and its enjoyable to watch because I could listen to the youtuber talk about their day or what they are going to do in the game. With Japanese its a completely different story, I can't understand any of it and only watching gameplay or someone talk is boring as fuck in my opinion. Besides that, like I said I might come back to it later, but for now I'll stick with other hobbies, like working out and such, but thanks for making this video! Now that I think of it, if I finally got fluent, it would be lame because like you said, I would be like oh cool I can learn Japanese, but weeks or months later I have no fucking reason to learn it. Like there are like no Japanese speakers in America, like you can't just go to your local McDonalds and ask for someone to speak Japanese for you, since there is little to no one that does. So that would be kinda sad knowing that I wasted years of my life just for another language. But yeah like I said thanks for making this and I'm sorry if you had to read this absolute essay of a comment
I'm learning it in the hopes that The JET program comes back to my country end of year. And I'm enjoying it so much I actively study 8 to 13 hours a week (with a full time job)
I dont think JET or other ALT comapnies want people whos Japanese is too good actually.
@@baki9191 I have actually heard that but I am still learning in the hopes that my interest in the country boosts my points and if by some 1% chance I get to go I can get around comfortably there. (But where I am it's still a small chance that they even come here for people)
My cousin had a master degree from a university in the US and up until now when she's already more than 30 years old, She still haven't worked for any company yet. When she was in a top class (and expensive) university in our country Vietnam, she also tried to learn Chinese the traditional way but eventually she quit. Then 3 years ago she married to a Chinese and regretted not learning it properly.
The stuff about DJT is pretty true lmao. But honestly, competition is pretty fun. Learning Japanese is fun as well. Who cares if it’s “useless”, most of the things we do are. As long as you don’t let it consume you, then it’s fine IMO.
Its fine just as like you said you dont let it consume you. But when you storm into peoples discords and try to challenge their kanji knowledge to make yourself feel like a legend cos you know more abstract kanji than everyone thats when its a problem lmao
I think there's no objective "good" or "bad" reason. Some people got fluent for the sake of anime, other people never got past the beginner stage even though they plan to live in Japan. The question is just how motivated they are by their goal, no matter what it is. I'm personally on my way to hitting 1000 hours for the "mere" sake of 乙女ゲーム but it fulfills me and I've never felt like I'm wasting time. (I agree that people who constantly complain should probably re-examine their reasons tho)
As always, interesting video, keep it up👍
@ラフダイヤモンド Absolutely agree!
For me, it took discovering a passion for translation as a hobby and career choice, and working in a shit work environment to kick my ass into gear. My biggest issue when I first started was that my intentions and my goals weren't clear, I didn't understand how to go about the process and put all the expectations I had for language learning onto my teachers instead of setting clear goals and expectations for myself. With flimsy motivations you'll never get anything done. If you want to learn Japanese to consume native content, like anime novels etc, that's an okay motivation but it needs to be a strong enough desire and clear enough for that to be of any use. Part of what keeps me motivated and excited to learn Japanese is that its like a window into a world that not everyone has access to, and having access to it means that I can learn something and share it with others. For me, that's exciting and pushes me to keep going even on the tough days. It's not as simple as "I just want to be able to watch anime without subs". I don't wanna go back to a shit job either.
If you wanna learn Japanese to watch anime, find a way to make that goal more clear and concise, what about anime makes you want to learn Japanese specifically? Why would understanding anime in its native language be a good thing? Break it down
Thank you for sharing!!!
Your contents are so good !!!
looking jacked in the thumbnail dude! definitely needed a little kick in the ass to get my priorities straight! gonna need an honest sit down with myself!
lol bro DJT crowd in 3...2...1....
The funny thing is some djt guys actually did jump in the server and try to argue lmao
Harsh but true. This applied to a lot of things in life not just Japaanes.
I wasnt good at japanese and I want to try again because i was hurt
I wish this mindset would be shared among different communities. In this age, a lot of people feel a sense of "insignificance" so they'll try to thrive in things just for the sole purpose of being admired, even if the goal itself is absolutely dumb, like those who throw cards at a cd port from a distance and they'll spend hours to get in, yeah, I get the you're feeling satisfied, but how could you be so irresponsible of the most valuable asset you have right now; your time.
This video should be a wake-up call for everyone, but I fear it's phrased in a way that it leaves a crack for those who'll try to rationalize their irrationalities, I bet there are some people who currently enjoy learning Japanese for the sole reason of enjoyment so they'll brush the idea presented in this video off and they'll set a rational goal for themselves to justify continuing their learning.
I was one of them, I enjoyed learning Japanese, but in the middle my enjoyment began to fade and my only motivation was that it feels like a far more waste not to finish what I started in the first place.
I genuinely wish people think in this mindset in everything they do, what a great video, thanks.
Harsh perspective, but it rings true! Language is a long-term commitment which requires serious effort. One needs to assess goals and evaluate what the true priorities are for one's future.
Oh, on the note of DJT, they certainly are toxic and can be braggarts, I cannot disagree there. XD I briefly spent time there after I encountered them last year, and I will be forever thankful that they urged me to get into reading, but had no desire to be 'corrupted' by their ways of thinking. They hammer on reading, but then backpeddle and say things such as "Manga is not reading" when it's literally reading material made for natives. Anyone who's been dedicated in the immersion journey and spent time watching Japanese TH-camrs, anime, listening to podcasts, watching Jdrama, reading manga and light novels, and 'playing' visual novels has ended up succeeding.
I believe listening, speaking, and reading are all the most crucial aspects in overall language learning and they all need to be developed and refined. Not disregarding writing, but it's pretty niche imo. For instance, when would you need to write in Japanese if you don't live there? If you had a penpal there, just desire to keep a journal, or want to go into calligraphy, sure. Otherwise, not worth it.
PS. Mentioned this before, I think, but fuck ADHD which makes immersion x10 harder than it should be. XD Don't struggle with motivation, but to keep attention in even native material, never mind Japanese, makes this a greater challenge, haha. But will reach those goals!
haha i love the honesty we need more people like this
🔥🔥this was needed
Thank you, i needed this video.
I always go to discord servers and envy others persons japanese, that's just pathetic, don't be like me.
New year new me
you look like you just got drafted
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