Jason’s picking made every riff on that black album heavy as f**k. Hetfield I love you man but Jason was the atomic boom of the rhythm bombs you dropped
There was nothing heavy on the “Black Album “ 🤣 just ballads and hard rock songs . We went from Dyers eve to “enter sandman” ? First four 👍🏻 after that it was a different band with different fans
@@33cattt49weird...cause I like all of their music...probably because I just enjoy music...and I understand that a band will change over time. My favorite album is justice. But nothing makes me want to smash someone's face as much as the sad but true riff. It's heavy, it's beefy, it's thick, and it's aggressive. It doesn't have to be fast to be heavy, sometimes it just needs to be "sludge". And the black album did that perfectly. A real fan will support the first 4 albums, and the black album, along with load, and reload, and st anger. A really real fan listens to lulu......I am not that fan. The balck album is a heavy thick sludgey album because that's what they wanted it to be...and they achieved that. And it does have good songs on it. No matter what the snobs say.
Everything Jason did suited all those songs perfectly. Lets remember no matter how much James wants to rewrite history, Jason wasn't fired from Metallica.
My friend look it like this: O.k. I did my job, I did everything I earned a lot of money right there stays your fake and mediocre hipocrite, pop band I'm a true and honest man.
There may be moments where Rob questions how strong the gig really is , , , , moments where he does an excellent 👌 rendition of one of the "Jason Era" hits perfectly and suddenly gets flak from James over it , , , but Everytime Robert nails a Cliff Burton era song they practically drool over Rob like he is gold or something , , , , now James narcissistic ways aside for the moment , , ,Lars has made it abundantly clear that Rob is to feel welcome in the band at all times , , , , believe it or not Lars truly misses Jason , , and does hold James to blame for that whole scenario , , ,😮😂🎉
James' bottled frustration communicated through subtle comments and uncomfortable chuckles, Kirk looking at James knowing what he really means to say, James playing guitar over Rob when Rob tries to talk into the mic. The little things most of us have probably experienced at some point if you've played in a band.
@@jeffreyjones593some say Metallica truly died when Cliff died. His musicianship would have pushed them stratospheric. Can you imagine how much better Kirks input would have been with Cliff's guiding hand? A massive loss. Not just to Metallica, but to music.
I think he was 95% just talking shit for the cameras. James and the rest of the crew are Lemmy worshipers, so I think it was just a friendly jab. I, too, miss the great Jason. He brought an energy to that band they haven't had since he left.
James only says that you can't play it like Jason because that's disrespectful for Jason, so you have to find another way to do it right but just not like Jason. That's why he suggests Rob tapes a pick under his finger, so it's a compromise to get the same sound but not the exact same way Jason did it. And Rob counters by saying he can use the back of his fingers, the nails, to act like a pick. That's really cool.
Oh, they are still treating Jason like shit oh. I thought you guys were better people now, that you know, you are old.Hey Jason, I am a Metallica fan and I deeply respect your contributions to this band. After Cliff's death I thought this band was doomed but you saved them from themselves.Thank you
Is everyone on here being stupid? James told him to do it, just don't let anyone see it 'Tape it to your finger' because you're 'ripping off Jason' - it's clearly a joke.
I am big fan of Metallica as well. I love Metallica a lot, buddy. And I fully agree with you about that. Jason did a lot. Extra underrated. Seems I am only blame them for how they treated him. Unfair. Jason left them pure and proud. And no negative to his address.
You cut it off right before the best part; when Jason pokes his head in completely out of nowhere and yells "yeah nice riff, but I liked it better when it was called Dawn Patrol." James went full Homer Simpson "why you little...!" Jason's like "AH!"
Yeah that (and the entire thing) irked me. Jason was amazing on Black and that was his baseline. I still think he was better and had a better sound for Metallica than Rob.
Rip off mustaine? Most electric guitar players use picks dumbass and James was using one before he even met Dave and he was writing thrash music before he even met Dave as well. So stop with the dave invented thrash bullshit.
Yeah how dare you play with a pick! The more I see Metallica rehearsing the more I believe that James and Lars are massive narcissists while Kirk just wants to play his guitar and Robs like “it’s cool man, I wanna keep my job”
@@monomate oh matey, wasn’t meaning to shit on anyone. What my stupid ass meant was: the more I watch footage of Metallica interacting, and it isn’t the one videos, is years of observation which increase the more I got into music. I’ve always respected Metallica, one of my first metal paaaions, but I’ve often been interested in the interpersonal dynamics of such a thing: How songs are written by other people, what input each person has etc. it’s fascinating as I write on my own and often miss the band mate input, it’s only poor mental health that limits me in that sense. This is where the interest and fascination comes from.
Totalmente, pero demasiada gente no está lista para esa conversación. Si se te ocurre decir que Jason es mejor bajista que lo que fue Burton hay gente dispuesta a golpearte.
@@mariocarreon3160 la verdad es que Jason no es mejor bajista, incluso es el peor de los 3, pero tenia mas energía y mejor segunda voz, claro esta que en esa epoca no tocaban canciones como orion o call of ktulu
He was the greatest era of Metallica, sure the first 3 albums got them into the world, but with that anger of the death of Cliff and Jason’s brutal bass tone they catapulted to the stratosphere
James and Lars were never known for their ability to work with anything bass related. Best to leave it to guys like Dave Mustaine and Jason Newsted who actually have an ear for these things.
Here we go another internet troll idiot who wants to praise Dave and Jason and do anything possible to shit on James and Lars and Metallica just because that's what the cool kids do. So predictable and cringe. Come up with something new at this point its beyond played out. James and Lars ARE Metallica in every way shape or form since 1981. Those 2 guys you mention have 10 contributions total between the 2 of them out of their 100s of songs. They don't have much of anything to do with metallicas overall success or their songwriting. That doesn't fit your overused narrative though that James and Lars are these selfish evil entities while Dave and Jason are the poor pitiful me duo who was DONE SO WRONG by those evil Metallica guys how dare they do that. Like I said man come up with something new a fresh and stop sounding like a blind sheep. Hating on Metallica doesn't make you cool.
Many of the load/reload greatest bass lines were done by James I believe King Nothing and Until it Sleeps were both made by James (and recorded by Jason)
@@joaomaiaesimoes4846 Jason also wrote a couple of good basslines for Reload, but those albums aren't exactly what you reference when talking about Metallica. James and Lars were responsible for turning the bass down on Justice, something that will haunt those two for a very long time.
That's an interesting statement since Metallica has made it very well known how deeply influential Motorhead was, to them. James even adopted Lemmy's mutton chops facial hair style because he wanted to BE Lemmy and yet, after Lemmy passed, James admitted he was never really close with the guy despite their numerous associations. Personally, I think his fascination with Lemmy ended as soon as he found out about Lemmy's love of amphetamines' (James has always been the sole "no-drugs" member of the band, despite being the heaviest alcoholic).
@@nommy210that's an interesting theory... I didn't know James said he was never close to Lemmy ... I thought they were friends back in the 80s and 90s
The way Jason was all but deleted from the mix and overall disrespected was a disgrace. They paid him, but he earned more than pay. He earned respect and the rest of them failed.
@@FacundoSS_Guitarist Jason was my favorite as a kid growing up learning who metallica was. He was basically me, the guy that wanted to be in the band and actually got in the band. Also I was bullied by my older step brothers, so I related to him. Somehow even before he left the band I felt those undertones, and then when I seen the music video I disappear I was sad to see he literally got bullied. I was like damn, he's really a good guy thats being put down. Never did he get to be seen as the true stong man he really is.
James is always jealous of Jason coz jason was able to sign loud and sound crazy on stage. That was the issue. Lars and James wanted someone to shut up and do what they wanted. They’re jealous of him.
Never be the new member to replace a dead member. Sometimes it may work out (Brian Johnson), but the band may hold resentment (this and Ozzy with Jake).
Jason fez o metallica se tornar maior do que poderia ser. Certamente se nao fosse o jason e suas incríveis performances ao vivo, backing-vocal matador, levando o peso do som do grupo para outro nível, fazendo valer o ingresso de cada fã so pela sua dedicação na entraga maxima em cada musica e show. O metallica não seria tao grandioso se o jason não fizesse parte do grupo. James nunca admitira o quão importante o jason foi e a falta que faz. Jason foi de longe o melhor músico que ja tocou no metallica. Os solos do kirk são ruins em sua grande maioria, são como baldes de água em algo que está prestes a entrar em combustão, o lars por outro lado é o pior bateriata de metal de todos os tempos, sua "técnica" só piora com a passar dos anos e só não é demitido do grupo por ser o dono. Ainda bem que existe registro dos shows dos anos 90, assim poderemos ver incansavelmente. Nunca ninguém diria que essa piada ja foi algo foda!!
Man if only Cliff (R.I.P.), would had use a pick once, hypothetically speaking, as any musician would, this guys wouldn't be talking such BS. Seems like they just grow a bit but never actually changed. They couldn't take their own blame for being such assholes to Jason. I'm not talking for kirk though.
He was joking. It's musician humor; he was making a little joke about Rob using a pick when he's known for being a finger-player, and Jason was known for being a pick-player (and, of course, they were playing a Black Album song, too). If you think James is legitimately saying "you're not allowed to use a pick, because Jason used to use one," you don't know the sense of humor of the band. The guys have always joked around and made jokes at each others' expense.
For sure!!! Now I can realize the fights amongst the members. There is something that is called respect and amongst the musicians never musted be forgotten but I see it is only a theory.
@@vovahimself 100% lol. I hate when people do that if i was rob i would have strait out asked immediately oh are you not happy with me playing with a pick then? Skip to the point
I liked Rob in Suicidal and infectious grooves. His playing and style were perfect in those bands. But Jason was a much better fit for Metallica. He gave it 110% every show. A true thrasher. Headbanging like it’s 1985 every night. Still pissed about how he was treated all these years later.
I am personally not a fan of playing bass with a pick, but there are certain situations where a pick, IMO, is the perfect compliment to a song; this being one of those situations. That is how the song was written and Rob's bass tone sounded pretty badas* using a pick!
Jason Newsted's bass technique was a HUGE part of the Black album. If the Black album had never been made, Metallica would has never been huge. It is unquestionably their peek in terms of mass market success.... Because album sales are something you can actually measure, there's a metric there to say Jason helped bring the band their most successful period. They really shouldn't be disrespecting his legacy.
Everyone seems to forget that Jason was the only one that could keep time. That’s why they were so tight and always in pocket. Jason was just too metal for them. And the only member that was never fired. In the S&M doc Michael Kamen said “I had to teach Kirk, Lars, and James what a time signature is.”
Jason is still my favorite. His energy, intelligence and style was perfect. They messed up and he left them. I really hope they'll stop acting like a bitter ex girlfriend.
Cliff would have been disappointed of them in many occasions (including bulling and muting Jason on the Justice album)... it was like the worst way to honour a fallen brother
While Kirk, Rob and Jason were afraid of James, I think James is afraid of Lars. (notice I didn't mention Dave, because Dave literally smacked James in the face when he attacked his dog)
They only did it in the first, And Justice for all… Bass is on in subsequent records, including Garage Days. Bass is great on the Black album. Lars wanted him to take a backseat first, to earn his place in the band the hard way. And Jason said recently that despite that, the record without bass became legendary, cemented Metallica as an all-time band, so he can't be mad. His time came right after that and everybody recognizes him for his contribution to the band, Jason absolutely ruled. They're cool now.
Pick or no pick... It all peaked 1993..1993-2000.. Good live.. 2000.-2024.. 24 years and Four albums with songs no one fucking remembers... And jason gave it all and that for me was pure fuckin metal
It's because every time James looked at Jason it was a reminder that Cliff was gone. Cliff was by far closest to James, he was like an older brother and his death damaged James far worse than Lars or Kirk. My reason for thinking this? On the night Cliff died, James walked for miles in freezing temperatures attempting to locate this "black ice" the driver of their van claimed to have hit. It was James calling out Cliff's name in a drunken stupor hours later, trying to find him. Which would have been pretty heartbreaking to hear. James didn't hate Jason for who he was, he hated him for who he wasn't.
@jamesb1988 No, not a good reason. I don't agree with you; I guess James didn't expect Jason to leave the band, and that's why he doesn't like Jason and his fans. after Jason, Metallica was not like before. Robert made Metallica look like nu-metal band.
Maybe this is just some lighthearted riffing but a lot od things I see point to Rob still being treated as a hired gun instead of a full on contributing member. Maybe the Jason thing was a joke but Rob seemed genuinely uncomfortable and James made sure to play over him talking into the mic. Just immature and kind of dick-ish. Rob deserves better than that
@Denmark_1974 I agree. It's a shame. Metallica should be more than the James and Lars Project. Kirk has been in the band essentially as long as it's been around. Rob is the longest running bassist and is a monster of a musician
@@grawman67 Some things never change I guess. It always seems like, Kirk and Rob are walking on glass around James. In the jam room situation, the mood kinda depends on what mood James are in. That must be tough.
@@Denmark_1974 It definitely does seem like that. Maybe I'm wrong but it just seems like they still run the show which is silly. It would definitely be tough if that's the case
The slight pause and the way "Jason" was hissed by Het... not cool. Jason doesn't bag the band out any more, he hardly did anyway (one could understand that would have been out of frustration initially). For the band's talk of personal "growth" that's quite the step backwards. Newsted is awesome, he doesn't need to be treated as a cuss word by his former bandmates.
It's like James forgets that Jason was the right bassist at the right time, and many of us wish he had never left. That's nothing against Rob, as he's a phenomenal bassist, but to me the Newstead era will always be their 2nd best lineup, after the Cliff era. But maybe, in addition to the reasons that we know, he left because he saw the writing on the wall, as Metallica just isn't the same band, creatively speaking, that they were in the 80s and 90s. Their albums since then aren't the masterpieces they were, containing some real duds of songs. Sure, their shows are still amazing and they rock just as well as they did 30 years ago, playing the songs we all know and love, but in their ability to write great songs they lost something. I haven't loved an entire album since Load, and I've liked every album since then a bit less than the one before, with the exception of St. Anger, which to me had only one decent song... the title track. Eh... this is just one man's opinion.
He was just joking these guys take everything too seriously and this kind of video attracts the Jason and Dave loving Metallica haters who see it as a chance to talk shit lol...
Usually Megadeth twerps who have nothing better to do than watch Metallica clips on youtube or other sites and try and be creative with replies to outdo one another.
When you’re dealing with a person who has a very sarcastic sense of humor like James, it can be REALLY hard to tell if they’re joking or being serious. I’ve rewatched this a few times, and I just rant tell how serious or not he really was being here.
It's too bad Rob got stuck with version of Metallica. They were already going to shit by the time he got there. He is a great bass player and seems like a genuinely nice person.
They have done 3 good albums since then some of yall don't pay attention. If you don't like Metallica or only 80s stuff why are yall still on every Metallica video watching away in 2023. If they been so bad for 30 plus years why are you still here? Do you just love to spread hate?
You know I think my problem is that still to this day, at least in every interview I’ve seen, James and Lars still don’t fully own up to the fact of their part and fault in Jason leaving and for muting his bass on Justice. They get close, yet they still don’t fully admit the full circumstances.
Robert Trujillo is the very definition of a "scab worker". For those who don't know, Robert was hired by Ozzy to record over Bob Daisley's immortal bass tracks on the first 2 Ozzy records. Who would dare to do such a thing but a scab? NO integrity whatsoever!
Yeah man well said I feel for him but it obviously pays and gets him recognition. Him and Kirk are the only dudes that seem human in the band for lack of better words
Jason’s picking made every riff on that black album heavy as f**k. Hetfield I love you man but Jason was the atomic boom of the rhythm bombs you dropped
Long live Jason Newsted!
That'd be a badass record label name. "Rhythm Bomb Records".
As an audio engineer, I can assure that the secret behind every great metal guitar tone is a great bass tone.
There was nothing heavy on the “Black Album “ 🤣 just ballads and hard rock songs . We went from Dyers eve to “enter sandman” ? First four 👍🏻 after that it was a different band with different fans
@@33cattt49weird...cause I like all of their music...probably because I just enjoy music...and I understand that a band will change over time.
My favorite album is justice. But nothing makes me want to smash someone's face as much as the sad but true riff. It's heavy, it's beefy, it's thick, and it's aggressive. It doesn't have to be fast to be heavy, sometimes it just needs to be "sludge". And the black album did that perfectly.
A real fan will support the first 4 albums, and the black album, along with load, and reload, and st anger.
A really real fan listens to lulu......I am not that fan.
The balck album is a heavy thick sludgey album because that's what they wanted it to be...and they achieved that. And it does have good songs on it. No matter what the snobs say.
Everything Jason did suited all those songs perfectly. Lets remember no matter how much James wants to rewrite history, Jason wasn't fired from Metallica.
What are you on about? James has owned up to everything that led to Jason leaving the band
Because he focking left the focking band!
@@carpenoctem775 i believe, the correct phrase was: He fawking left the fawking band 🙂
Word, Jason dodged a bullet leaving that band. He been much happier since
Rob's bass sound is bigger than Jason's and is truer to how they started. He literally made them sound better
Lars: Note To Self, turn down Robert's bass on the next album
It's funny, because it's (sad but) true 😄
They actually turned down the bass on 72 seasons 😂
aaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy@@wamporeycidulgb
😂😂🤣
Done.
Robert: "Oh yeah sorry about that. I'm sorry, I forgot" *probably questioning his entire future with the band in that moment* 😂
My friend look it like this: O.k. I did my job, I did everything I earned a lot of money right there stays your fake and mediocre hipocrite, pop band I'm a true and honest man.
There may be moments where Rob questions how strong the gig really is , , , , moments where he does an excellent 👌 rendition of one of the "Jason Era" hits perfectly and suddenly gets flak from James over it , , , but Everytime Robert nails a Cliff Burton era song they practically drool over Rob like he is gold or something , , , , now James narcissistic ways aside for the moment , , ,Lars has made it abundantly clear that Rob is to feel welcome in the band at all times , , , , believe it or not Lars truly misses Jason , , and does hold James to blame for that whole scenario , , ,😮😂🎉
Meh, the band has been down hill since 1996.
If They remove Robert. That will be the end of Metallica and they will be remember as a disgrace.
I believe it was Lars who dropped Jason's bass out of the mix for justice.... @@wyldelf2685
James' bottled frustration communicated through subtle comments and uncomfortable chuckles, Kirk looking at James knowing what he really means to say, James playing guitar over Rob when Rob tries to talk into the mic. The little things most of us have probably experienced at some point if you've played in a band.
Jup. You see who owns the Band. Its still James and Lars Band. The other 2 are employees. And they know it.
Passive aggressiveness at its finest. He does it quite a lot in these jam room videos
Cliff didn’t put up with that bullshit.
@@jeffreyjones593 because james was not like that before cliff's passing
@@jeffreyjones593some say Metallica truly died when Cliff died. His musicianship would have pushed them stratospheric.
Can you imagine how much better Kirks input would have been with Cliff's guiding hand?
A massive loss. Not just to Metallica, but to music.
Pure class Robert. Respecting Jason’s legacy. Past and present united.
Right???? 🎶🎶🎶🎙️🎙️🎙️🎶🎶🎶❤️
What legacy??? He did nothing special for Metallica but head bang 😂
@@truthhurts79 you're absolutely lost lmao
@@sulkissulking and you're a come lately idolizing a member who contributed very little to the music poser
@@truthhurts79you don't know what you're saying
There is nothing wrong of using the pick, I like Jason he was one of the best what metallica had
I think he was 95% just talking shit for the cameras. James and the rest of the crew are Lemmy worshipers, so I think it was just a friendly jab. I, too, miss the great Jason. He brought an energy to that band they haven't had since he left.
Cliff and Rob played fingers. Better sound
@@Cantstop66 Not really. Different. Pick has more attack
With metal , a pick not only allows you to keep up, it keeps it tighter.
James only says that you can't play it like Jason because that's disrespectful for Jason, so you have to find another way to do it right but just not like Jason. That's why he suggests Rob tapes a pick under his finger, so it's a compromise to get the same sound but not the exact same way Jason did it. And Rob counters by saying he can use the back of his fingers, the nails, to act like a pick. That's really cool.
Oh, they are still treating Jason like shit oh. I thought you guys were better people now, that you know, you are old.Hey Jason, I am a Metallica fan and I deeply respect your contributions to this band. After Cliff's death I thought this band was doomed but you saved them from themselves.Thank you
Is everyone on here being stupid? James told him to do it, just don't let anyone see it 'Tape it to your finger' because you're 'ripping off Jason' - it's clearly a joke.
@@UncleUncleRj
That's not clearly "a joke"
If you want to call people "stupid"
Don't be one.
@@gaagsl - I didn't call anyone stupid, I said 'Is everyone on here being stupid?'
İm glad jason didnt be part of st anger numetallica sht 🤡
I am big fan of Metallica as well. I love Metallica a lot, buddy. And I fully agree with you about that. Jason did a lot. Extra underrated. Seems I am only blame them for how they treated him. Unfair. Jason left them pure and proud. And no negative to his address.
Jason is a true thrash metal bassist.
Period!
But he’s most well known for non Thrash songs. Lol
@@JazzSoulMetal You've gotta listen to the first Flots album. And he totally transformed thrash-era songs like "Creeping Death" live.
@@ktw70 Agreed a whole damn lot here.
@@severed111 Thanks!
Sounded fine with the pick. They're kinda just being dicks tbh. Rob was just trying to be respectful towards Jason since he knew it was his bass line
Just some light-hearted riffing I think :P it was only a comment or two
James came up with that base line. It didn't belong to Jason (e.g. Blackened), but it's not nearly as thunderous with fingers.
@@MKDumas1981jason created blacked
@@MKDumas1981james didnt create that bass line. everything on black album is jasons bass lines.
@@otimustron2 wtf is blacked
So many years later and their soft egos are still hurt.
They are just havin a little fun, chill out
@@dougmasters4561 No they are being assholes
@@dougmasters4561 This happens a lot in Metallica videos. They’ll be joking around, yet the comments take everything dead serious.
That is silly considering they are playful defending Jason Newsted.. they are just joking.
How, @@Faven2011
You cut it off right before the best part; when Jason pokes his head in completely out of nowhere and yells "yeah nice riff, but I liked it better when it was called Dawn Patrol." James went full Homer Simpson "why you little...!" Jason's like "AH!"
I need that video
@@TheoneandonlyEETFUK Twas dope. James even made that Scooby-Doo running sound effect with his feet. I didn't even know that was physically possible.
Video?
@@Luka2000_ Yeah lemme look for it. I know it's around here somewhere.
@@mattdad8429 please tell me you found it.
Rob starts talking...
James: Starts making loud guitar noises...
no wonder he never felt welcome in that band
he read his mind and started playig with the fingers robert is impressed james can actually do it LMAO
Yeah that (and the entire thing) irked me. Jason was amazing on Black and that was his baseline. I still think he was better and had a better sound for Metallica than Rob.
@@BaronsDuju With Jason they couldn't play orion or call of ktulu live
Rob should have told James, "Well, I hate it when you rip off Mustaine by using that pick too" lol 😂😋
Rip off mustaine? Most electric guitar players use picks dumbass and James was using one before he even met Dave and he was writing thrash music before he even met Dave as well. So stop with the dave invented thrash bullshit.
Is not the same, as James had a past with Jason, almost like an ex-girlfriend.. while Rob doesn't even know Mustaine.
well rob doesnt know jason either-@@mandovid
Rob doesn't "know" Jason and Dave? How you know that?
Get Fired From Metallica speed run
Yeah how dare you play with a pick!
The more I see Metallica rehearsing the more I believe that James and Lars are massive narcissists while Kirk just wants to play his guitar and Robs like “it’s cool man, I wanna keep my job”
chill tf out man, it was a joke
@@monomate ??
True history
@@AVM-Music it just sucks to see people write off james as a "massive narcissist" because of a 1 minute interaction, his tone wasn't even serious
@@monomate oh matey, wasn’t meaning to shit on anyone. What my stupid ass meant was: the more I watch footage of Metallica interacting, and it isn’t the one videos, is years of observation which increase the more I got into music. I’ve always respected Metallica, one of my first metal paaaions, but I’ve often been interested in the interpersonal dynamics of such a thing: How songs are written by other people, what input each person has etc. it’s fascinating as I write on my own and often miss the band mate input, it’s only poor mental health that limits me in that sense. This is where the interest and fascination comes from.
Jason es el bajista más creativo y carismático que ha tenido Metallica. Si, hasta por encima de Burton.
Coincido totalmente
Totalmente, pero demasiada gente no está lista para esa conversación. Si se te ocurre decir que Jason es mejor bajista que lo que fue Burton hay gente dispuesta a golpearte.
@@mariocarreon3160”Fanatismo” creo que le llaman
@@mariocarreon3160 la verdad es que Jason no es mejor bajista, incluso es el peor de los 3, pero tenia mas energía y mejor segunda voz, claro esta que en esa epoca no tocaban canciones como orion o call of ktulu
Touched a nerve..
They treated Jason like shit.
You can sense that Hetfield views Rob as an employee.
Same mistake they made with Jason, but Rob’s been the bassist longer so I guess he can take it. Crazy to even realize that.
Nice to see they are still bullying the bassist.
even after he's gone
The 90's era of MetallicA were the golden years imo❤️🎶
When a bass player of Rob's caliber plays with a pick, you are obligated to bust his balls about it. It's in the Geneva Conventions, haha.
I mean even Kirk was like "yeah shut up Meg".
Jason is part of the greatest era in Metallica. 🤟🤟🤟
Agreed im 43 my first album was ajfa
He was the greatest era of Metallica, sure the first 3 albums got them into the world, but with that anger of the death of Cliff and Jason’s brutal bass tone they catapulted to the stratosphere
Facts!
greatest era was RTL through AJFA. Jason was the best part of the band's twilight transition into mediocrity.
😊@@brianrankin5876
Yeah I’m baffled as to why Jason would ever want to leave such a nurturing environment. Maybe Dave wasn’t so wrong after all.
Cliff was the only one that kept them in check. He would even get on lars case about tempo live.
Its part of what makes that song the heavy picking on bass and definitely one of my favourites off that album.
Today Rob plays with a pick, tomorrow he starts a thousand side projects and fawking leaves the fawking band.
Yes...I read that in his voice. 😂
honestly id love it if rob went back to suicidal tendencies if they would reunite the classic line up.
No matter how many "We were really mean to Jason 🥺" interviews they do nowadays, Hetfield will always be Hetfield
Rob in his mind: "remember, the pay is good"
haha nice one
Jason was and is such a great bass player and metallica really do owe him a massive thanks for all the stuff he done over the years
James and Lars were never known for their ability to work with anything bass related. Best to leave it to guys like Dave Mustaine and Jason Newsted who actually have an ear for these things.
Here we go another internet troll idiot who wants to praise Dave and Jason and do anything possible to shit on James and Lars and Metallica just because that's what the cool kids do. So predictable and cringe. Come up with something new at this point its beyond played out. James and Lars ARE Metallica in every way shape or form since 1981. Those 2 guys you mention have 10 contributions total between the 2 of them out of their 100s of songs. They don't have much of anything to do with metallicas overall success or their songwriting. That doesn't fit your overused narrative though that James and Lars are these selfish evil entities while Dave and Jason are the poor pitiful me duo who was DONE SO WRONG by those evil Metallica guys how dare they do that. Like I said man come up with something new a fresh and stop sounding like a blind sheep. Hating on Metallica doesn't make you cool.
Many of the load/reload greatest bass lines were done by James
I believe King Nothing and Until it Sleeps were both made by James (and recorded by Jason)
@@joaomaiaesimoes4846 Jason also wrote a couple of good basslines for Reload, but those albums aren't exactly what you reference when talking about Metallica. James and Lars were responsible for turning the bass down on Justice, something that will haunt those two for a very long time.
This is when James was drinking again so not surprised lol
the only one that could overshadow james on stage was Jason... and... Jimmy did not like that
James and Lars are giant egomaniacs that's why lol
Yup!
Lots of their songs sound great with a pick
That is because lots of their songs were written being played that way for 14 years while Jason was in the band. Imagine that.
@@midnight347 and all those basslines fit the songs. Not to mention that And Justice For All sounds better with the bass in the mix.
Bass playing in metal sounds better with a pick tho...
Istg james has something against bass players that use picks. It feels like Lemmy is the only exception
That's an interesting statement since Metallica has made it very well known how deeply influential Motorhead was, to them. James even adopted Lemmy's mutton chops facial hair style because he wanted to BE Lemmy and yet, after Lemmy passed, James admitted he was never really close with the guy despite their numerous associations. Personally, I think his fascination with Lemmy ended as soon as he found out about Lemmy's love of amphetamines' (James has always been the sole "no-drugs" member of the band, despite being the heaviest alcoholic).
@@nommy210 James did drugs a couple of times .
@@nommy210that's an interesting theory... I didn't know James said he was never close to Lemmy ... I thought they were friends back in the 80s and 90s
Lemmy played bass like a guitar. I was fortunate to have seen him play before he died!
James making a disgusted face and saying "Jason" ...
I prefer Rob when he plays for Suicidal and Infectious Grooves
best era of ST was with Rob on bass for sure.
The way Jason was all but deleted from the mix and overall disrespected was a disgrace. They paid him, but he earned more than pay. He earned respect and the rest of them failed.
Wow that was really uncomfortable to watch. James still needs a therapist.
People love Metallica with Jason in it. Don’t deny him
Jason was the GOAT. They never made another good record without him. He wasn’t a main writer but him being in the band gave them a different spirit.
So true man, so true.
ehhh
Hardwired to self destruct is the real "Metallica-sounding" album post Jason Newsted (with some Death Magnetic songs that are good)
Jason quería componer pero nunca lo permitieron.
I mean, Load and Reload aren't as good as DM. You have to give Rob that much credit.
I bet working with Hetfield and Ulrich is backbreaking.
Metallica without Jason has been almost irrelevant. High respect to Rob who is an incredible musician.
Just say it James, he's never gonna replace Jason. Jason was like a brother to you.
And a TRUE Metallica fan, 100% competent musician & compositor
@@FacundoSS_Guitarist Jason was my favorite as a kid growing up learning who metallica was. He was basically me, the guy that wanted to be in the band and actually got in the band. Also I was bullied by my older step brothers, so I related to him. Somehow even before he left the band I felt those undertones, and then when I seen the music video I disappear I was sad to see he literally got bullied. I was like damn, he's really a good guy thats being put down. Never did he get to be seen as the true stong man he really is.
Jason was the man, Jason is the MAN. Respect.
All these years later and he still has to be an asshole towards Jason?
Jason is and will always be my favorite member..
Metallica at its prime especially in live performances has jason as the bassist and vocals.
James is always jealous of Jason coz jason was able to sign loud and sound crazy on stage. That was the issue. Lars and James wanted someone to shut up and do what they wanted. They’re jealous of him.
Never be the new member to replace a dead member. Sometimes it may work out (Brian Johnson), but the band may hold resentment (this and Ozzy with Jake).
❤❤ Jason is the King for me....i like his style...the way he play and the way in sing....
Fit better then Robert in Metallica
Jason and Blacky from VoiVod where the reason i started to play bass.
Jason fez o metallica se tornar maior do que poderia ser. Certamente se nao fosse o jason e suas incríveis performances ao vivo, backing-vocal matador, levando o peso do som do grupo para outro nível, fazendo valer o ingresso de cada fã so pela sua dedicação na entraga maxima em cada musica e show. O metallica não seria tao grandioso se o jason não fizesse parte do grupo.
James nunca admitira o quão importante o jason foi e a falta que faz. Jason foi de longe o melhor músico que ja tocou no metallica. Os solos do kirk são ruins em sua grande maioria, são como baldes de água em algo que está prestes a entrar em combustão, o lars por outro lado é o pior bateriata de metal de todos os tempos, sua "técnica" só piora com a passar dos anos e só não é demitido do grupo por ser o dono.
Ainda bem que existe registro dos shows dos anos 90, assim poderemos ver incansavelmente. Nunca ninguém diria que essa piada ja foi algo foda!!
His playing fockin join the band!!!
Man if only Cliff (R.I.P.), would had use a pick once, hypothetically speaking, as any musician would, this guys wouldn't be talking such BS. Seems like they just grow a bit but never actually changed. They couldn't take their own blame for being such assholes to Jason.
I'm not talking for kirk though.
I think bass guitar sounds better with a pick especially for metal.
He is so much more talented than the rest of them!
Rob or Jason?
Rob is a class act and the most versatile musician in that band by lightyears.
He still plays it with the pick live
Robert is a good guy, no doubt, but man, I really do miss Jason!
He was joking. It's musician humor; he was making a little joke about Rob using a pick when he's known for being a finger-player, and Jason was known for being a pick-player (and, of course, they were playing a Black Album song, too).
If you think James is legitimately saying "you're not allowed to use a pick, because Jason used to use one," you don't know the sense of humor of the band. The guys have always joked around and made jokes at each others' expense.
Right! Rob has played a few songs with a pick!
It was a passive aggressive joke though
For sure!!! Now I can realize the fights amongst the members. There is something that is called respect and amongst the musicians never musted be forgotten but I see it is only a theory.
It was a joke and a shot at Jason. They are mutually exclusive things.
@@vovahimself 100% lol. I hate when people do that if i was rob i would have strait out asked immediately oh are you not happy with me playing with a pick then? Skip to the point
And this is just before james going to rehab again , thinking of jason and his pick that saved the band ❤
I liked Rob in Suicidal and infectious grooves. His playing and style were perfect in those bands. But Jason was a much better fit for Metallica. He gave it 110% every show. A true thrasher. Headbanging like it’s 1985 every night. Still pissed about how he was treated all these years later.
I am personally not a fan of playing bass with a pick, but there are certain situations where a pick, IMO, is the perfect compliment to a song; this being one of those situations. That is how the song was written and Rob's bass tone sounded pretty badas* using a pick!
I swear Kirk and Robert are the only ones who still have souls in the band, these videos are hard to watch. Lars and James are strange dudes
I think Papa Het is criminally underrated. I give props to anyone that can play a guitar like he does and sings. Sick talent
Jason Newsted's bass technique was a HUGE part of the Black album. If the Black album had never been made, Metallica would has never been huge. It is unquestionably their peek in terms of mass market success.... Because album sales are something you can actually measure, there's a metric there to say Jason helped bring the band their most successful period. They really shouldn't be disrespecting his legacy.
When james was back on the sauce too
Yeah. He was rocking a nice beer gut there.
Everyone seems to forget that Jason was the only one that could keep time. That’s why they were so tight and always in pocket. Jason was just too metal for them. And the only member that was never fired. In the S&M doc Michael Kamen said “I had to teach Kirk, Lars, and James what a time signature is.”
Jason was the heart and soul of Metallica
Jason is the reason why Metallica exist, with no Jason in Metallica, the band is split up
JASON RULES
Jason is still my favorite. His energy, intelligence and style was perfect. They messed up and he left them. I really hope they'll stop acting like a bitter ex girlfriend.
I lost all respect for this band after seeing the "Some Kind of Monster"-DVD and till today I didn't find any reason to change my mind.
Metallica became everything you could ever want to hate about the music industry. Cliff would be very disappointed in them.
Cliff would have been disappointed of them in many occasions (including bulling and muting Jason on the Justice album)... it was like the worst way to honour a fallen brother
Why doesn't anyone want to stand up to Hetfield? I guess the fear of losing the paycheck.
While Kirk, Rob and Jason were afraid of James, I think James is afraid of Lars. (notice I didn't mention Dave, because Dave literally smacked James in the face when he attacked his dog)
I would rather have Jason back in the band no question!
What they did to Jason is unforgiveable.. such wasted talent with how they almost CUT the bass off in recordings
They only did it in the first, And Justice for all… Bass is on in subsequent records, including Garage Days. Bass is great on the Black album. Lars wanted him to take a backseat first, to earn his place in the band the hard way. And Jason said recently that despite that, the record without bass became legendary, cemented Metallica as an all-time band, so he can't be mad. His time came right after that and everybody recognizes him for his contribution to the band, Jason absolutely ruled. They're cool now.
It’s like getting told off by your boss at work and him reminding you why they sacked the last guy 😲😳😂
Except they didn't sack him. He left cuz he got tired of playing with pussies.
Except the last guy wasn't fired. They lost Jason because of their egos.
They hate Jason because he’s a window into everything wrong with this band, and it wasn’t him.
Pick or no pick... It all peaked 1993..1993-2000.. Good live..
2000.-2024.. 24 years and Four albums with songs no one fucking remembers...
And jason gave it all and that for me was pure fuckin metal
James blocked me from Instagram when I said "I miss Jason" , but Jason is one part of Metallica legacy Why he hates Jason like that ?!!
It's because every time James looked at Jason it was a reminder that Cliff was gone.
Cliff was by far closest to James, he was like an older brother and his death damaged James far worse than Lars or Kirk.
My reason for thinking this? On the night Cliff died, James walked for miles in freezing temperatures attempting to locate this "black ice" the driver of their van claimed to have hit.
It was James calling out Cliff's name in a drunken stupor hours later, trying to find him. Which would have been pretty heartbreaking to hear.
James didn't hate Jason for who he was, he hated him for who he wasn't.
@jamesb1988 No, not a good reason. I don't agree with you; I guess James didn't expect Jason to leave the band, and that's why he doesn't like Jason and his fans. after Jason, Metallica was not like before. Robert made Metallica look like nu-metal band.
Maybe this is just some lighthearted riffing but a lot od things I see point to Rob still being treated as a hired gun instead of a full on contributing member.
Maybe the Jason thing was a joke but Rob seemed genuinely uncomfortable and James made sure to play over him talking into the mic. Just immature and kind of dick-ish. Rob deserves better than that
James often sounds a bit passive/aggressive to Kirk and Rob. Like they annoy him or something.
@Denmark_1974 I agree. It's a shame. Metallica should be more than the James and Lars Project. Kirk has been in the band essentially as long as it's been around. Rob is the longest running bassist and is a monster of a musician
@@grawman67 Some things never change I guess. It always seems like, Kirk and Rob are walking on glass around James. In the jam room situation, the mood kinda depends on what mood James are in. That must be tough.
@@Denmark_1974 It definitely does seem like that. Maybe I'm wrong but it just seems like they still run the show which is silly. It would definitely be tough if that's the case
@@grawman67 yep👍
Jason, a true man.
To give credit! He is filling some big, heavy shoes! Jason was Metallica in my book! 💯. Made me start playing bass! 👍
He should play the way he wants!
The slight pause and the way "Jason" was hissed by Het... not cool. Jason doesn't bag the band out any more, he hardly did anyway (one could understand that would have been out of frustration initially). For the band's talk of personal "growth" that's quite the step backwards. Newsted is awesome, he doesn't need to be treated as a cuss word by his former bandmates.
Rob: Oh sorry, I forgot that he f***ing left the band👍
Jason was the shit. His heavy picking gave a lot of BOOM to The Black Album. I miss that dude and his energy
I love how ttheir band manages to capture and convey such a high level of energy.
Oh James, them memories so sweet :)
■□James no suelta el Mate ni para Ensayar, Esta Zarpado en Argentino!□■
It's like James forgets that Jason was the right bassist at the right time, and many of us wish he had never left. That's nothing against Rob, as he's a phenomenal bassist, but to me the Newstead era will always be their 2nd best lineup, after the Cliff era. But maybe, in addition to the reasons that we know, he left because he saw the writing on the wall, as Metallica just isn't the same band, creatively speaking, that they were in the 80s and 90s. Their albums since then aren't the masterpieces they were, containing some real duds of songs. Sure, their shows are still amazing and they rock just as well as they did 30 years ago, playing the songs we all know and love, but in their ability to write great songs they lost something. I haven't loved an entire album since Load, and I've liked every album since then a bit less than the one before, with the exception of St. Anger, which to me had only one decent song... the title track. Eh... this is just one man's opinion.
Can people seriously not tell that James was just goofing around? It sounded like he was just trying to be funny.
no. he is a peace of sh*t and he will never change.
He was just joking these guys take everything too seriously and this kind of video attracts the Jason and Dave loving Metallica haters who see it as a chance to talk shit lol...
Usually Megadeth twerps who have nothing better to do than watch Metallica clips on youtube or other sites and try and be creative with replies to outdo one another.
It'd help if it were funny...
its called clickbait
When you’re dealing with a person who has a very sarcastic sense of humor like James, it can be REALLY hard to tell if they’re joking or being serious.
I’ve rewatched this a few times, and I just rant tell how serious or not he really was being here.
It's too bad Rob got stuck with version of Metallica. They were already going to shit by the time he got there. He is a great bass player and seems like a genuinely nice person.
Erase "going to."
Got stuck? Dude has been riding the gravy train for 20 years. He shows up , reads the instructions, follows the orders, and makes millions of dollars
@@tzon6802 literally!!
They have done 3 good albums since then some of yall don't pay attention. If you don't like Metallica or only 80s stuff why are yall still on every Metallica video watching away in 2023. If they been so bad for 30 plus years why are you still here? Do you just love to spread hate?
@@tzon6802 I do think that funk is Trujillo's true musical love is funk. He's very good at it.
Jason was the best thing that happened to them after Cliffs death. Metallica hasn’t been the same since Jason walked away.
Robert is a great bass player but Jason will always be my favorite Metallica member.
Trujillo siempre será el reemplazo de Jason,y le ha costado mucho cubrir el espacio de Jason..
Sounds better with a pick
You know I think my problem is that still to this day, at least in every interview I’ve seen, James and Lars still don’t fully own up to the fact of their part and fault in Jason leaving and for muting his bass on Justice. They get close, yet they still don’t fully admit the full circumstances.
@@gmgmg14 Spot on👍
the pick is METALLICA!
Perfect sound for that song !!!
Rest in live Jay Newstead 🙏 still the new kid even 30 years later and you not even in the band anymore WOWWEE 😮💨 😌🙏
Robert Trujillo is the very definition of a "scab worker". For those who don't know, Robert was hired by Ozzy to record over Bob Daisley's immortal bass tracks on the first 2 Ozzy records. Who would dare to do such a thing but a scab? NO integrity whatsoever!
Yeah man well said I feel for him but it obviously pays and gets him recognition. Him and Kirk are the only dudes that seem human in the band for lack of better words
Jason foi o melhor baixista do Metallica.
Rob é melhor tecnicamente,mas jason tem heavy metal na veia
Cliff was, get your shit straight
na real foi o cliff, mas o Jason era brabo tb, principalmente nos vocais