Christman coming out from the bunker like Lenin coming back from Switzerland. I'll be honest, I've found his vlogs hard work - but this is great stuff.
With regards to explaining the concept of police abolition to people who are unfamiliar with it, I usually start by asking what the police actually do, and then showing that all of those functions can be done much better by alternative organisations that don't have the legal power to murder someone
Your fundamental flaw is thinking you can change any of that shit. Okay, two years later: what tangible progress has been made on police abolition? I would argue we're even further away now lmao
We should be demanding that the cops be run more like a fire department. Rather than armed patrols, officers spend most of the day at a "firehouse," training on their down time and only are deployed during an emergency. Most 911 calls should be handled by social workers. These are demands we should be making
I'm not american so I don't really have a horse in this race but I've seen some stuff floating around the internet related to this idea of defunding the Police, and/or limiting what instances they should be called upon, do you really think this is viable? In what situations to which police is now called do you think they'd be unnecessary? I'm European so I'd say that a much bigger problem in the USA is gun control, I'm past my 20s and I have never in my life seen or touched a firearm, so in my eyes gun culture is the bigger problem. I'd understand if you don't have answers to my questions, but watching this whole thing from the sidelines has made me curious. Thanks in advance!
@@berdyderg900 what is and isn't "entertainment" is up for interpretation, but what CTH actually does is not. They discuss news and politics from a certain perspective, so it makes sense to me to post this here; I figured it would resonate with the audience. Why not?
@@WanderingIdiot81 because it's youtube and not a meaningful route for improving society (which doesn't really exist here tbh, hence me saying to just laugh at it)
i may have misunderstood the point, but it seems weird to me that political action is necessarily done out of some degree of self-interest, when at the same time we need to accept that we may never see any real change. are the small, incremental changes what fulfill that self-interest?
Demand better? Well buddy, I can’t think of anything better than getting this DANG CHEETO out of the DANG WHITE HOUSE. I think we can all agree on that one ~ I miss when we had REAL leadership. If only Obama and Bush could team up and show this DANG CHEETO what America is all about am I right??$
Trade unions(which are better paying jobs)did. The labor unions didn't.. Trade unions were from the beginning formed out of the old artisan guilds (which were of course exclusionary and racist), which in turn under Industrial Capital became a Labor Aristocracy. Of course they excluded Blacks and then again they've been excluding just about everyone else for the last 60 plus years. Trade unions under Capitalism are Labor Aristocracy. Labor unions are more democratic, socially conscious, and as a result are more sympathetic to American Black plight. The labor movement in any industrialized country is split into these factions. Don't you know this or are you just a shit eating moron?..
The unorginised nature of these protests speaks to the failure of online left. Sure, we have collected significant funds for groups that actually do stuff like bail funds, and bailproject, but somehow the celebrities the "movement" of online left revolves around manage to be just as qlueless than their followers when it comes to protesting. There are community leaders, who are not male models and bootlickers. Yet information about those does not get effectively spread. That is the one thing what online leftist could actually be useful in - spreading information and marketing movements that actually coordinate in meaningful manner. Yet that is not happening. And it makes sense: you can shittalk on internet for people around a globe, with very little effort. But to actually collect sufficient amounts of information about actual organisers to pass on to that wide followerbase is a huge task. The wider your online community, the wider the gap between internet and reality gets. Yet if someone managed to cross that gap, the effects would be immidiate and huge. It would essentially supercharge the most difficult part of actual political action: getting people together in coordinated manner. Just having people gather in real life with shared agreement that they should listen to some form of leadership, and that they should be open to work towards the shared short term goals set by that leadership, or discuss said goals, face to face, in coordinated manner, under that powerstructure, is the hardest part.
The online left echoes the issues with the left in most modern democracies. The issue is that America has never really addressed its underlying grievances with each other. Liberals and leftists have become uncomfortable bedfellows against conservatives and fascists, but leftists priorities are too left wing for other parties to even consider. Realistically social democracy is the best we can do but it will always be undone by Democratic and Republican Party machines within a few electoral cycles. We need ranked choice voting and an end to the electoral college for real reform. We need to see where the American people stand on parties and political agendas without coercion from undemocratic voting processes. I realize this is all a pipe dream, but so is the concept of a United American government through this century.
blm just led protests in 50 states at once for weeks. and burned down 2 police precincts. whats more organized than that? im not sure what youre using as a model of an organized movement. SNCC? NAACP?
I think Matt preaches a real concrete form of Materialism and emphasizing the important on material conditions and further the conditions of the minds of the american people
How so? I forgot which points I’ve heard from this compared to his vlogs, but he’s been advocating for a sort of “ego death” in order to be more mentally fit for revolutionary action. As in, understanding that it may never be utopia for us in the present, but the work still needs to be done for the sake of creating the metaphorical cathedral that would eventually take shape over multiple lifetimes. To push the boulder up the hill without expecting the reward of reaching the top and calling it a day. Which makes sense, because if we really want the world to have a utopian leftist society, it would have to take years, and nobody alive today is guaranteed to see it. And if we all throw up our hands at the notion of all this work only being done for the people in our place decades from now, then everyone would stop and it would delay the result for another hundred years and another generation would have to have the same conversation. Thus, we have to imagine Sisyphus happy, understand that there’s a worthwhile life to live in pushing this boulder of leftism up the hill of capitalism, so that people/we are still willing to do the work.
@@DownUFO Yes, but that is all just a refined and palatable version of the old "Are gays/blacks being too PUSHY demanding rights? Most Americans think so, so they aught to settle down and wait for their time, lest they spoil it for everyone." Leave fussing over optics to stuffy politicians, reject the assumption that any good thing must inherently take multiple lifetimes when everything awful might crash down tomorrow. State our end goals, aiming for half way up the hill gets us quarter of the way.
if matt could summon the energy to even read even a _synopsis_ of "white fragility" i think he'd find himself a likeminded ally in the fight against white guilt and counterproductive attention hogging in DiAngelo. it's a shame he concluded what this literature says based on what sounds like a simple misreading of the title. i cannot quite figure out what point he was trying to make when he outed the author as "italian". if this is as much sense as he makes when talking about a topic I have even a passing familiarity with, does this mean I've been wrong to assume he knows anything when he's riffing authoritatively about topics I'm ignorant of?
i know that i have been branded with the red letter T for troll. i swear this comment is not a lure. it is a personal comment (that doesn't matter here) but also i think it is interesting to what's happening. don't think of me or any other humans. just think about the word..... Pity.....what are the feelings around pity? what does pity imply? what does pity mean?
Fourth Turning view of American History says the 2020s are a turning point. Institutions turn over about every 80 years. Last Fourth Turning was 1930 to WWII era.
@@larllarfleton That's was the 2nd turning or the "awakening" in which the people who were born after the crisis start to rebel against the institutions that were setup during and directly after the crisis. People start becoming more individualistic and start rebelling against social norms.
dont they have to be? like saying that its ok for black folks to die is not a consensus position is nutz. yt folks want them centered in this movement and they arent
Empty liberal virtue signaling has nothing to do with material support. In fact, those corps use identity politics to distract from the fact that they are ravaging the natural environment, exploiting their workers and looting the treasury.
and has chapo even said george floyds name? or breanna taylors? theres zero remorse or empathy. these yucks keep playing jealous girlfriend and dont seem to express that black lives actually matter.
they certainly have. what are you even saying. they’re getting into some specifics of class warfare strategy. please address your anger towards something appropriate.
@@00mongoose that the riots arent some political movement or an opportunity for. Some socialist labor uprising...its just a cathartic chaotic scream of people who frustrated and tired black and white. Only people so morally and emotionally removed are trying to figure out how to capitalize. If that isnt fucked up i dont know what is.
@@ladedade23Blunticus He spends like 5 minutes talking about how the protests are a spontaneous uprising that are unlikely to achieve any real material change. How do you coomerbrains constantly interpret the exact opposite of the point these guys make?
the only politically serious chapo - jesus christman. (oh and normal voice guy too)
Chris really is the chapo with the only normal, boring voice.
Christman coming out from the bunker like Lenin coming back from Switzerland.
I'll be honest, I've found his vlogs hard work - but this is great stuff.
Another grueling shift done in the vlogging mines
@@berdyderg900 eh, it's a living.
Matt's vlog have been some of the most rewarding content i've ever experienced on this stupid fucking internet, but yes also sometimes challenging
Do not forget... biden is not a sign of strength, but desperation.
I love their cynicism because it absolves me of my inaction.
The reality that you have no control over any of this is what absolves you, not your parasocial friends
With regards to explaining the concept of police abolition to people who are unfamiliar with it, I usually start by asking what the police actually do, and then showing that all of those functions can be done much better by alternative organisations that don't have the legal power to murder someone
Your fundamental flaw is thinking you can change any of that shit. Okay, two years later: what tangible progress has been made on police abolition?
I would argue we're even further away now lmao
Favorite episode name so far.
What exactly do Will, Felix, and Amber have going on that they can't take an hour out of their day to shit on Biden and talk about the protests?
Spending all that Patreon loot. Lesson: looting isn't just for kids.
Has virgil returned? He's been on hiatus this whole quar.
@@AdamHammel he hasn't been around since Bernie dropped. I don't think even once
I greatly prefer any episode where someone is not trying to talk over everyone else
@@missyrogers7098 But that's the whole point of the dirtbag left.
Matt content is best content.
I WANT VIRGILLLL, ITS BEEN 3 MONTHS, WHAT COULD HAVE HAPPENED, Y IS THERE LESS OF THEM NOW, I WANT MY BEAUTIFUL POOPY BOY
We will surrender our laifu for best Chapo waifu.
he's gone kid
All in all youre just a nother cheeto in the wall.
it was the best of chapo, it was the worst of chapo, it was the episode of wisdom, it was the episode of foolishness
The subreddit snots are seething, keep it up
Seeing a lot of moping in this comment section. Fuck that!
We should be demanding that the cops be run more like a fire department. Rather than armed patrols, officers spend most of the day at a "firehouse," training on their down time and only are deployed during an emergency. Most 911 calls should be handled by social workers. These are demands we should be making
I'm not american so I don't really have a horse in this race but I've seen some stuff floating around the internet related to this idea of defunding the Police, and/or limiting what instances they should be called upon, do you really think this is viable? In what situations to which police is now called do you think they'd be unnecessary? I'm European so I'd say that a much bigger problem in the USA is gun control, I'm past my 20s and I have never in my life seen or touched a firearm, so in my eyes gun culture is the bigger problem. I'd understand if you don't have answers to my questions, but watching this whole thing from the sidelines has made me curious.
Thanks in advance!
You need to realize that this is entertainment. People used to understand the concept of bread and circus before social media.
@@berdyderg900 what is and isn't "entertainment" is up for interpretation, but what CTH actually does is not. They discuss news and politics from a certain perspective, so it makes sense to me to post this here; I figured it would resonate with the audience. Why not?
@@WanderingIdiot81 because it's youtube and not a meaningful route for improving society (which doesn't really exist here tbh, hence me saying to just laugh at it)
This is absolutely the worst Chapo episode by far.
This is absolutely the best Chapo episode by far.
Yeah, yeah, we've all read A Tale Of Two Cities
I love this.
Where's Virgil?
the EARTH is still CRYING...
He died in a gaming accident.
i may have misunderstood the point, but it seems weird to me that political action is necessarily done out of some degree of self-interest, when at the same time we need to accept that we may never see any real change. are the small, incremental changes what fulfill that self-interest?
Damn, it's almost like there is an inherent and irreconcilable contradictin
Christmas forever!!!
I call him Matt Christmas now
Maybe I'm out of my depth and have more to learn but honestly this episode made me wanna just give up.
Hey. Hope you didn’t.
pity does not exist. pity is dead. there is only spite and fear.
I pity da fool...
But remember, what’s really important is that we all go out and VOTE BLUE to get this DANG CHEETO out of the WHITE HOUSE - good vibes all around : )~
Sounds like you need to sit down and have a serious talk about Biden's record. Demand better or get a tyrant.
Demand better? Well buddy, I can’t think of anything better than getting this DANG CHEETO out of the DANG WHITE HOUSE. I think we can all agree on that one ~ I miss when we had REAL leadership. If only Obama and Bush could team up and show this DANG CHEETO what America is all about am I right??$
There’s nothing funny about this dang Cheeto. That’s why we gotta vote 👏 blue 👏💯
Matt just black pilled me. Guess I should retire to a cave and be an ascetic.
Love this.
This was great. Is that other guy always there but not talking? wtf
He's the producer/editor, it's normal
Matt is the best at breaking down the psychological obstacles in TRUE altruism and lazy social justice via one's keyboard.
defund twitter!
Trappo's Chop House
Labor movement consciously left black workers behind.
Trade unions(which are better paying jobs)did. The labor unions didn't.. Trade unions were from the beginning formed out of the old artisan guilds (which were of course exclusionary and racist), which in turn under Industrial Capital became a Labor Aristocracy. Of course they excluded Blacks and then again they've been excluding just about everyone else for the last 60 plus years. Trade unions under Capitalism are Labor Aristocracy. Labor unions are more democratic, socially conscious, and as a result are more sympathetic to American Black plight. The labor movement in any industrialized country is split into these factions. Don't you know this or are you just a shit eating moron?..
The unorginised nature of these protests speaks to the failure of online left. Sure, we have collected significant funds for groups that actually do stuff like bail funds, and bailproject, but somehow the celebrities the "movement" of online left revolves around manage to be just as qlueless than their followers when it comes to protesting.
There are community leaders, who are not male models and bootlickers. Yet information about those does not get effectively spread. That is the one thing what online leftist could actually be useful in - spreading information and marketing movements that actually coordinate in meaningful manner. Yet that is not happening.
And it makes sense: you can shittalk on internet for people around a globe, with very little effort. But to actually collect sufficient amounts of information about actual organisers to pass on to that wide followerbase is a huge task. The wider your online community, the wider the gap between internet and reality gets.
Yet if someone managed to cross that gap, the effects would be immidiate and huge. It would essentially supercharge the most difficult part of actual political action: getting people together in coordinated manner. Just having people gather in real life with shared agreement that they should listen to some form of leadership, and that they should be open to work towards the shared short term goals set by that leadership, or discuss said goals, face to face, in coordinated manner, under that powerstructure, is the hardest part.
The online left echoes the issues with the left in most modern democracies. The issue is that America has never really addressed its underlying grievances with each other. Liberals and leftists have become uncomfortable bedfellows against conservatives and fascists, but leftists priorities are too left wing for other parties to even consider. Realistically social democracy is the best we can do but it will always be undone by Democratic and Republican Party machines within a few electoral cycles.
We need ranked choice voting and an end to the electoral college for real reform. We need to see where the American people stand on parties and political agendas without coercion from undemocratic voting processes. I realize this is all a pipe dream, but so is the concept of a United American government through this century.
blm just led protests in 50 states at once for weeks. and burned down 2 police precincts.
whats more organized than that?
im not sure what youre using as a model of an organized movement. SNCC? NAACP?
Chapo Gentrification House
a home for yt
Reparations
Never can be reparations only retribution
Kinda weird hearing this perspective from Matt, to me it just hits like centrism with extra steps.
I think Matt preaches a real concrete form of Materialism and emphasizing the important on material conditions and further the conditions of the minds of the american people
How so? I forgot which points I’ve heard from this compared to his vlogs, but he’s been advocating for a sort of “ego death” in order to be more mentally fit for revolutionary action. As in, understanding that it may never be utopia for us in the present, but the work still needs to be done for the sake of creating the metaphorical cathedral that would eventually take shape over multiple lifetimes. To push the boulder up the hill without expecting the reward of reaching the top and calling it a day. Which makes sense, because if we really want the world to have a utopian leftist society, it would have to take years, and nobody alive today is guaranteed to see it. And if we all throw up our hands at the notion of all this work only being done for the people in our place decades from now, then everyone would stop and it would delay the result for another hundred years and another generation would have to have the same conversation. Thus, we have to imagine Sisyphus happy, understand that there’s a worthwhile life to live in pushing this boulder of leftism up the hill of capitalism, so that people/we are still willing to do the work.
@@DownUFO Yes, but that is all just a refined and palatable version of the old "Are gays/blacks being too PUSHY demanding rights? Most Americans think so, so they aught to settle down and wait for their time, lest they spoil it for everyone." Leave fussing over optics to stuffy politicians, reject the assumption that any good thing must inherently take multiple lifetimes when everything awful might crash down tomorrow. State our end goals, aiming for half way up the hill gets us quarter of the way.
Low tier bait or low tier brain
Elon musk's 209 comment? What is this in reference to?
Ed 209, the failed “urban pacification” robot from Robocop.
@@0ptimuscrime danke
玛窦基督人思想
I went to college and don’t accept the underlying premises.
You have very bad posts, please improve or stop
if matt could summon the energy to even read even a _synopsis_ of "white fragility" i think he'd find himself a likeminded ally in the fight against white guilt and counterproductive attention hogging in DiAngelo. it's a shame he concluded what this literature says based on what sounds like a simple misreading of the title. i cannot quite figure out what point he was trying to make when he outed the author as "italian". if this is as much sense as he makes when talking about a topic I have even a passing familiarity with, does this mean I've been wrong to assume he knows anything when he's riffing authoritatively about topics I'm ignorant of?
His thoughts on video games are pretty boomer too
i know that i have been branded with the red letter T for troll. i swear this comment is not a lure. it is a personal comment (that doesn't matter here) but also i think it is interesting to what's happening. don't think of me or any other humans. just think about the word.....
Pity.....what are the feelings around pity? what does pity imply? what does pity mean?
Fourth Turning view of American History says the 2020s are a turning point.
Institutions turn over about every 80 years.
Last Fourth Turning was 1930 to WWII era.
Wouldn't you say the 70s and neoliberalism was a bit of a turning point though?
Wouldn't you say the 70s and neoliberalism was a bit of a turning point though?
@@larllarfleton That's was the 2nd turning or the "awakening" in which the people who were born after the crisis start to rebel against the institutions that were setup during and directly after the crisis.
People start becoming more individualistic and start rebelling against social norms.
I view the protests as being mostly supported by the authority.
Corporate America is totally on their side.
Because it can be easily co opted due to low organization and the lack of institutional power, i.e. They're not a true threat to power at this point.
dont they have to be?
like saying that its ok for black folks to die is not a consensus position is nutz.
yt folks want them centered in this movement and they arent
You got a pithy alternative
Empty liberal virtue signaling has nothing to do with material support. In fact, those corps use identity politics to distract from the fact that they are ravaging the natural environment, exploiting their workers and looting the treasury.
@@mausklick1635 Can agree with that
and has chapo even said george floyds name? or breanna taylors? theres zero remorse or empathy.
these yucks keep playing jealous girlfriend and dont seem to express that black lives actually matter.
they certainly have. what are you even saying. they’re getting into some specifics of class warfare strategy. please address your anger towards something appropriate.
Saying their names isn't how you prove Black Lives Matter. Affecting genuine change in the material conditions of the people is.
Still dont get it. matt just refuses to get the point.
Which is?
@@00mongoose that the riots arent some political movement or an opportunity for. Some socialist labor uprising...its just a cathartic chaotic scream of people who frustrated and tired black and white. Only people so morally and emotionally removed are trying to figure out how to capitalize. If that isnt fucked up i dont know what is.
@@ladedade23Blunticus He spends like 5 minutes talking about how the protests are a spontaneous uprising that are unlikely to achieve any real material change.
How do you coomerbrains constantly interpret the exact opposite of the point these guys make?