I’ll never understand why building high speed rail or even light rail is so political. Not everyone wants to depend on a car and not everyone can afford it.
Car and Oil companies want you to depend on it. That's how they make hand over fist in profits every year by having a monopoly on the US's mode of travel.
Many people are convinced by years of misinformation that the moment you step on a bus youll get stabbed. Though i think thats been turning around in the last decade
"I will continue to fight for Texans." This woman does not in any way shape of form speak for the rest of us. This should have been built DECADES ago. Please bring high speed rail to Texas ASAP.
In hindsight we should have expanded rail as part of the interstate highway projects but it’s a little late for that now. I’ve drive the Houston to Dallas route many times and it SUCKS. I would absolutely take rail but the biggest issue I see is the lack of interconnection at the ends. There needs to be a tie in to Amtrak in Houston, tie in to Ft worth and the other major areas in the DFW area, and a better (not bus) tie in to Houston’s light rail (even though it’s a joke). Side note, Houston’s light rail is a joke and should have been built in decades ago. I’ve lived in Texas and New York and it’s sooooo nice being able to take a train everywhere and not have to worry about traffic, or designated driver, or parking, and so on
We have been waiting for this for more than three decades. Screw the landowners and farmers. They do not care about the rest of us. They are corrupted by airlines and oil companies.
@@cruisinguy6024yes, end point connections are important. At the current state expanding any rail or public transit network is immensely important and will lead to other development in this area. Even if the Texas HDR initially ends at not great locations in Dallas and Houston, in sure the cities would start developing better connections, with light rail or anything, that will make it a complete network.
“It’s gonna cut Madison county and every other county it goes through in half” last time I checked it’s a lot easier to walk across/under a rail line than it is to cross a highway lmao.
LOL for real. When I heard that, I was thinking "the highway already cut it in half, plus it's safer to cross or go under it than crossing the highway where someone can deliberately try to run you over".
Yeah. Most of the opposition I've seen to the project are invalid, based on rumors and lies spread by politicians and lobbyists. "What we need is wider highways." So, you're suggesting we nix a rail project and instead replace it with a project that will take even more land with imminent domain??? Then there's the argument about how people will still have to drive to the station. I don't see how that's an issue, because people still drive to the airport, and it beats driving 4-6 hours between Houston and Dallas. So much misinformation is getting spread.
@@Ncyphen "what we need is wider highways" I thought to myself, " so you can increase more complexity and get more people killed in crashes?" I'd say we need to get rid of some highways and replace it with rails, that would be better than taking up more land imo. It is funny they always use the excuse about still having to drive a car here and there when they already do that going to and from airports, but what they don't want to realize is not everyone does drive at all. Some of us are cyclist and we prefer our bikes as a way to get around, at least I do anyways.
eminent domain on 10 lane highways? - no problem, have a good day! eminent domain on a single high speed rail line? - hell NO, we need to protest this!
I don't understand why the rail viaducts can't just be run down the median of the interstate for most of its length, for this and many other HSR projects. It's already acquired land and most of these highways go where people are wanting to go.
@@Altoclarinets I think one reason is because highways twist and turn, sometimes tightly. Which true high speed rail systems need to run as straight as possible so as to maximize speed.
The thing that gets me is when we built the interstate system most people's land that was taken had no say, it displaced millions and generates lots of noise and air pollution. An electric train is less land over viaducts and generates way less noise and no air pollution. Having some farmers that own huge acres saying its disruptive successfully blocking it is insane.
Right? I remember during the highway craze, they just destroyed neighborhoods without an issue. Now that we have high speed rail which would take up arguably less land to take everyone is against it 🙄
Oh were issues, up to what's been dubbed "freeway riots". Thing is the freeway plans affected primarily poor minority neighborhoods, most successful opposition were rich white communities like Manhattan and Pasadena.
It's not really an issue of farmers not wanting to give up their land. It's an issue of getting enough money out of the transaction. It depends if they make the area under the elevated platform accessible. It also changes how the machinery has to be used. Texas has less strict environmental laws, so at least they don't have to worry about this getting stuck in courts for decades as all the environmental lawyers take their cut.
You can’t speak for other Texans either 😂. She’s a farmer obviously she, along w many other farmers will be impacted by it... we should really invest into our border security.
I've lived in Dallas 27 years and I am totally against it. Im tired of city people only thinking about themselves and their convenience. What gives you the right to divide someones land and deny them access to both sides?
@@Jojoixvi Trains in Texas (referring to high speed rail) is nothing but a limit on Minority lands. Rich people only see their benefit. If people want to travel then they can take a plane or a car to their destination. April 2024.
Lady is like, "I'll fight for mysel-, uh, Texans! I'm fighting for Texans!" A handful of selfish, horrible people like that hold the entire country back. See also: billionaires.
Right? We have to make sacrifices for the greater good and this is a great good. How can people be fine with adding yet another lane to a highway but not a single lane or two for a train?
you obviously didn't understand my point. I'm saying people are fine with using land for highways but seem to vehemently hate any amount of land being used for trains which is silly@@artchick07
@@MilwaukeeF40C . it's hard to simply "adjust" tens of thousands of lives out of the blue, and travel between the 4 major central texas cities is necessary for a LOT of people.
HOWEVER, way more people do not travel in such way, and they have to pay for it with their tax money. I would have supported high speed as long as it had paid for itself by ticket revenue. @@void_skyy
20 years ago, we used to drive 45 min from Live Oak (north of SA) to South of Austin...😂 I remember those days. My cousin used to live near riverside, and we used to drive back and forth.
I'm a farmer who has a proposed highway planned through our rented land. It's weird for me to see other farmers against rail. If you oppose rail, you'll end up losing far more land to new and wider highways in the future. Not to mention that cars are also far more environmentally damaging and costly.
Also thanks to highways, tons of farmland gets redeveloped into suburbs. The sort of zoning code that spreads everything out leads to more highways which leads to more congestion which leads to ever greater sprawl
@Demopans5990 yes exactly, sprawl follows highways. It's an awful cycle. Rail built North America and gave us nice, vibrant walkable, economically productive downtowns. Why can't we have that again?
deanorr5378 All of that existed before the government interfered in transportation and land use. So if you want that to come back, central planning, subsidies, and taxes need to be shtcanned.
@@mediocreman2I can’t imagine many people are actually flying from city to city within Texas for any reason other than a connection, and in that case they wouldn’t be competing with the rail line.
You should see how much Amtrak lobbies to keep DART from building a high speed rail they have been trying to build since the early 2000's. Amtrak is afraid they will loose all of Texas to DART. Kinda embarrassing for a essentially government funded company to loose out to the private sector.
@@mediocreman2 in this situation there would be no competition. The problem is that if they give them ground to make progress and more rails link up, they may start to lose business on longer connections
36 here, South Texas born never experienced a train ride in Texas. Not until I flew to Africa and rode on their trains from Nairobi to Mombasa about 10 years ago. Its shocking that what we consider a third world country they are more ahead of us. Texas sure could benefit a high speed railway system.
Not only is this a positive for climate purposes, but this could also save Americans hundreds to thousands in car maintenance and gas, that’s what makes this appealing to me
High speed rail is more competing against airplanes then cars at least for the 200-400km mark. Regular public transit replaces daily commute e.g. bus, trains or metro.
Texas contains several of the top 10 most populated cities in the U.S. They’re all simultaneously far enough apart that driving between them is a pain, but they’re close enough for high speed rail to be more efficient than flying. It’s a no brainer.
The I35 corridor makes a lot more sense from a deisty stand point it has 3 major meteor areas and 2-3 minor ones. But construction would be more challenging as it's a lot more built up.
@@Patmorgan235Us I-35 is essentially a giant parking lot on weekdays between 7am and 9am and 3pm and 7pm. We have a saying in north Austin. If you want to get to South Austin during South by Southwest, Austin City Limits, or racedays, then it's must faster to drive up to Oklahoma City, across to Denver, down to El Paso, follow the border to Brownsville, then come up through San Antonio than it is to drive I-35 south.
I am a Houston resident, and I've brought this up with so many people around here who have told me that in an ideal world they would absolutely love to see this built. There are genuinely very little downside to it. They'll literally build it on viaduct just so your cattle can go through, and you still block it because you have some bizarre disgust for the outside world and new technologies? You ask any farmer in Japan what they think about the bullet train, I promise you they will give positive reviews. It connects them to every corner of the country where they can go to find new customers for their product, they can easily go visit family at the blink of an eye, and so much more!
Car, Oil, and Airline lobbyists strong arming and using fear tactics over the years are the reason for this. Also, highway surveyors don't get paid by saying "yeah, highspeed rail makes more sense here than a lane widening project". They get paid by building more highway.
@@fauxbro1983 you just don't know how well-built it is in other countries... I can tell you that we are the best in many things but public transport certainly isn't one
@@MilwaukeeF40CPrivate transit has a really hard time making a profit for all sorts of reasons, but it's usually a great public investment for stimulating other economic activity. Roads aren't privatized either for the same reasons.
The United States desperately needs more transit. Faster, cheaper, and environmentally friendly! Texas is the perfect state to adopt a high speed network. Bring it!
The "local" Shinkansen is 3.5 hours from Tokyo to Osaka. The express (the most common service) is just under 2.5 hours and costs about $85. No US visitor could ride a Shinkansen and leave thinking we shouldn't have these in America. The best part about it is how easy it is. You don't really even need to check the timetables. You go to the station when you're ready, buy a ticket for the next one (they run every 8-20 minutes), and then you're on your way. You're not even tired when you arrive.
@@hadriangonzalez607 I mean, I don't know about that, outside the country, sure, but state? I'm sure a large majority has taken family trips to grandma's house or the nearest coast (if not in a coastal state). I think it's more accurate to say that most Americans haven't been on a train, after all, only certain cities have metros, and the rest of the country is barely served.
@@hadriangonzalez607 Ah, I see. Yeah I can see a lot of Texans not leaving the state that often. I live on the east coast (Virginia) and though it takes a few hours, we can cross several states in less than a day, which is useful to see some caverns or historical landmarks in nearby states, hence road trip.
Recently went to Europe and traveled on high speed rail. It was great. Very smooth. At times up to 186 mph. And then you get to a good sized city and you don’t need a car because they have a metro system that takes you everywhere and the trains run very frequently
Probably a fake lobby group (‘astroturfing’ rather than ‘grass-roots’) set up and funded by big oil, auto and airline interests. That’s how they usually oppose HSR in the US.
We used the Shinkansen system in Japan for the first time this year. The convenience and how it’s stress-less is amazing. People also need to realize that if you miss your train, you can just get on the next one (you’d lose your reserved seats, but still have the ability to get on the unreserved cars)
fun fact: the Japanese HSR system was controversial during its inception due to it massively over budget and was incredibly delayed. It is now a model for the rest of the world. These things cost money and take forever but in 40 years everyone will love them. Those who like driving will love it because less people will drive!
@roro4787 Ah yes, the country where the government is literally behind everything that is made there. It is easy for them to invest however much money needed to get it going to make it look good. I would say for a private model japanese rails are as good as you will get. Doesn't excuse whatever basically abandoned lines they cut but I suppose if they truly were derogated why keep them?
The shot of her using a tool at 6:29 in the video also looks like she's doing it just for the video. I bet she has just enough growing to classify it as "farm land" for whatever tax breaks you might get in Texas. Those overhead shots showing the land with shrubs and trees (tall ones bigger than the homes, which are not of the fruit variety) and a tiny little portion which I would classify as a "garden plot", just to keep up the illusion that' it's a working farm.
@@SA-nu2so the aerial shots of her land and the like 3 crops she was digging around make her place look like a farm just like i and my 250lb gut make me look like an olympic athlete.
The last mile problem has to be solved. In Houston, this has to connect to the light rail and there has to be a large parking lot at the terminus for those who the light rail is not convenient. This would be an unbelievable development for business. Reducing the commute to an hour between these two cities would open up incredible possibilities. The economic impact would far exceed the dollars spent.
METRO already has a bunch of projects to build a transit center and BRT to the Houston station. A light rail connection is on the road map but not currently funded.
The problem is the Houston light rail is an utter joke, and has been for some time. Like, how does it still not connect to at least IAH??? Texas has a massive transportation infrastructure deficiency.
At 1:33, does she think that she is fighting for Texans by preventing alternative modes of travel. She is actually fighting against that grandmother that can't drive anymore who wants to visit their family or that teen who can't afford an automobile. We need critical voices to prevent things going out of control like costs and environmental concerns but opposing voices like hers hurts everyone. Especially since it seems to come from a lack of understanding of the benefits over the disadvantages.
Exactly, she’s fighting against the worker who can’t afford a car who wants to visit their family, the grandparent who can no longer drive safely, the businessman/woman who can leave for a business trip in the morning and be back the same night to spend time with their family. She’s only fighting for herself and that joke she calls a farm.
@@Perich29 When considering how badly Alstom has performed with building Avelias for NEC, I don't think Amtrak is buying anything from Alstom anytime soon.
🚆I loved it too, my Japanese hosts were so proud of it 30 years ago. You would think the guy that narrates this otherwise insightful mini-doc would spend one minute to learn its proper pronunciation!
I have found that opponents of the system have never ridden a high speed train. I loved riding the AVE in Spain when I studied there in 2007. It took two and a half hours to go from Sevilla to Madrid, and that was with three stops. (There are even non-stop express trains, which expedite travel times even more.) Even with high speed rail, we will still need planes and cars, but at least it will give us a much better option for traveling regional distances.
@14:00 Tokyo to Osaka is 2h 22minutes by train... with a max speed of 285km/h and its fastest route makes 4 stops at Shinagawa, Yokohama, Nagoya, and Kyoto before terminating at Shin-Osaka. These trains run every 6-10 minutes during busy times. The 3.5hour quote is for the all-stops Kodama service... which only runs hourly. Texas HSR will be using a newer trainset on straighter tracks with only one stop at Brazos Valley and will travel up to 350km/h if I'm not mistaken.
@@jonathanpicket124 "People in the US don't seem to understand how to adopt what works well in other countries... it's infuriating." People in other countries don't have the same economic outcomes as we do in the USA. But, we can raise YOUR taxes if you want to pay for HSR.
@@JohnSmith-zi9or You’re absolutely right that “People in other countries don't have the same economic outcomes as we do in the USA.” We have the 7th highest GDP per capita among all countries, yet our social spending isn’t even top 20. So, what good is that high GDP doing the average person? There are far more countries with a lower income disparity, happier, more educated, and a more free populace. We are not the best at anything other than producing a strong military (it’s not even a fair comparison considering how much we spend on our “defense” budget). So, alluding to the idea that we are the best and that it's because of our high GDP is downright idiotic. How about we raise YOUR taxes to pay for the national highway system that’s falling apart? We pay far more just to maintain that oil and gas subsidy than we spend on any rail infrastructure.
@@jonathanpicket124 "So, alluding to the idea that we are the best and that it's because of our high GDP is downright idiotic. " No, you did. We can have all of those things, we just need to raise everyone's taxes to 30-45% like those countries. Nobody has better outcomes than the USA. It is why everyone wants to come here. However, you have the freedom to be an idiot, to be of poor health, to live in poverty. That's the difference.
High speed rail in the US needs to happen. Not only is it another option for travellers, which is always a plus, but other modes must compete for those dollars.
@@308_Negra_Arroyo_Lane I wouldn't put too much stock in how China does things. They construct colossal buildings, rail networks, etc in astounding time frames. But what might have been sacrificed for speed?
@@spyderlogan4992 The county, state, US, and interstate highways we all use were built in someone's backyard. If you live in TX like I do the reservior you fish and boat in flooded someone's backyard.
Andy Byford also saved the MTA while he worked in NYC. NYC loved him so much that he’s well known across the city as Train Daddy and there are murals across the city for him 😂 so glad he’s working at Amtrak now to help push this!
@@NotaPizzaGRL he wasn’t driven out, the governor (Andrew Cuomo) kept meddling with Andy’s plans and didn’t allow Andy to run the MTA independently. Cuomo would apparently start leaving Andy off important meetings at the state level which directly involved the MTA, but would include Andy’s direct reports. Apparently it was this whole mess, Andy didn’t get the support he needed and kept having to fight his way through Cuomo for even basic things at some point, and he eventually left
14:12 Fastest train from Tokyo to Osaka actually takes only 2.5 hours, not 3.5 stated in the video. In reality it's a huge difference. CNBC should supposedly be good at numbers...
I'd argue most Japanese people don't give a sh*t about the environment in terms of travel, taking the Shinkansen is simply the best and logical option for traveling between some cities (e.g. Tokyo to Nagoya, Fukuoka to Kumamoto, etc.)
what sources are you pulling this from? Japanese culture and society has always been very trash aware and waste management minded for the citizens, so this is the first I've heard of such a claim being argued
That's not a bad thing. You want to align people's incentives with the public good. Otherwise you are forcing people to make a hard choice every time they travel.
@@rvw8066 I imagine if you had ever left Texas and visited places like Japan, France, Italy, Switzerland, etc. You would recognize why what you are saying is just stupid. I know it must be hard to understand when you don't travel outside much, but to people who have to commute, we prefer not dealing with extreme congestion.
@@rvw8066 Then dont complain when Texas begins to pile up traffic like whats happening in California. Dont blame it on the californians! Blame it on people like you!
@@here-i-am2316 have you researched how much it cost to make and operate a road. Comparable and a rail is less damaging to the environment. No run off, less noise, less space consumed. There are other forces in play that won’t let this happen.
@@JohnSmith-zi9or the Trump train plan would be coal burning steam engines to help his 1% buddies in the mining industry 🇺🇸 the only infrastructure he cares about is what he can personally profit from
I lived in Japan and travelled many times on the Shinkansen (bullet train in Japanese) from Nagoya downtown to Tokyo downtown in 1.5 hour. It was wonderful, fast and very convenient. No brainer if well done, believe me.
Great to see another CNBC Video about trains, it's been a good minute. No matter how expensive startup construction costs may be for anything rail related, it's always worth building since it takes up less land and will be connecting millions of people on a daily basis. Also, several highway projects have exponentially higher costs, yet are still getting endless funding from the U.S. government, so it's not fair to complain about rail which has more benefits while much more destructive highways are being built with almost no vocal opposition.
@The_king567 It's like driving in NYC traffic, but at 60+. And with more pickups everywhere. At least you can be reasonably sure what the cars around you will be doing as you drive in NYC, that is, staying still
As a Southern Californian, i'm amazed how Texans in these comments see so eager for High Speed rail. Everyone where I live hates the idea, but I do believe connecting cities this way really revolutionizes local economies. Especially with out housing crisis here, I know so many peope would rather live somewhere more affordable but still be able to visit their home cities or just be able to travel freely between major cities without sitting through traffic or needing to buy a plane ticket. Anecdotally, I took the train/bus route from San Diego to San Francisco last year and it took roughly 14 hours, sitting in really dinky buses and trains. I just googled it and a bullet train would only take 3 hours to go from LA to San Fran, thats insane. We need HSR bad
nothing will get done in America because before you get something done you have to ask someone's grandma and then their grandma has to ask somebody elses' grandma and the cycle goes on forever.
That's what happens when you don't live in a communist/socialist country. We actually have the right to say "no" to anyone wanting to use our land. sure it's inconvenient sometimes, but it beats being forced by daddy govt to give up our land.
I like this Andy Byford guy. He seems well-spoken and passionate, knows the key arguments (like the distance sweet spot), and is aware of the state of the issue not just in his own country but internationally (see the comment about highways getting easier subsidies). Dunno his track record but it's a good first impression. Would've liked to see slightly more about the pros/cons of the Dallas terminus versus the Fort Worth extension.
The irony of many American’s sentiment against transit and HSR is that they argue it takes away their freedom. When in actuality, their “freedom” (cars), is forced onto the public, including people who may not want to or can’t afford a car.
As an American, this irony is so frustrating. My own family, “progressive” people I work with, racial justice advocates locally, all act like anything other than driving infrastructure is a waste of taxpayer dollars.
These same people go through invasive and inconvemient airport security lines to squeeze themselves into flying sardine cans. Planes are a net benefit, but if you have no problem with them, spare me the "freedom" line, because air travel is very restrictive.
Texas would benefit greatly with high speed rail, their zoning laws are much lenient, land there is cheap, and it's mostly flat with major cities. But most Americans don't get the value of trains, even though it is a necessary public utility in a country. The United States, despite problems with cost of living and wealth inequality, it is still a first-world country. And the semblance of a first-country is great public transportation, such as, trains. In my opinion, for Americans to be conditioned to supporting high speed rail, which is more expensive than regular rail systems, metro systems should be built in cities first. Because building high speed rail that connect major cities is a good idea, however the benefits don't immediately reach a larger number of people, as people will prefer to drive instead to not be hassled on renting a vehicle once they reach their destination. A robust metro system like Tokyo's system put in place in America cities would immediately sell the future of rail in the country, because the product would be speed and convenience. Once die-hard car people experience that, they might change their views on public transportation into supporting rail. The current narrative of die-hard car loving Americans is that it is political, trains equate Liberals, Socialism, and Leftist, while cars and highways mean freedom, patriotism, and Right-Wing. It is rather strange why it's like that. It should be a point of national pride if the country has a robust transportation system, regardless where you lie on the political spectrum. The United States, as first-world country, is lagging behind on public transportation compared to other countries. And this should be fixed.
In fact, USA is the world leader in train transport. But we transport cargo, not people. Our rail lines span the entire country, east to west, north to south. And it usually travels in the rural areas where you don't see it. Because it's is more cost efficient to fill cars full of goods, then partially full of people. No surprise that Amtrak is wholly owned by the government, and makes the case that rail "isn't a factor" to our society, while the exact opposite is true. More government lies.
If you use train to the city, you arrive with no car. Stuck. Video already showed the tracks stop outside the city. High speed rail is the ultimate public transport. But all the other bits gotta be done first.
@Makko404 _All people want is just a short segment of that cargo rail distance_ That is the biggest problem. This short rail benefits a small segment of the population, and requires actual billions of dollars. The road budget too, is billions of dollars, yet benefits the entire state. This short line, is nothing more than the plaything of rich people to attend football games, and buy trinkets at gift shops hundreds of miles away. Nobody commutes hundreds of miles to work. We can't have "walkable neighborhoods" while simultaneously transporting people hundreds of miles away to attend school. This isn't sustainable.
@Makko404 Because the national road budget is spent on roads that need it. Which includes everything from converting dirt roads into paved, or widening highways. Conversely, the budget for this rail line is only usable to those within the vicinity of 2 stations. _why can't we have walk-able neighborhoods alongside rail?_ That isn't the point I was making. The argument is, very few actually need to go between these two cities, simply because they are both large. The primary reason, was to attend a football game. Billionaire backed stadiums are killing cities. How come there's never any money for quality school lunches, but there's billions available for shopping sprees in Houston? However, to answer your question: Walkable neighborhoods are more expensive to live in. Homebuyers in America's largest metro areas pay 35 percent more for walkable real estate. Renters pay a 41 percent premium. So why would you pay premiums to live somewhere close to everything, when the goal is to travel hundreds of miles away, for what, exactly? Again, the case presented in this video, is to attend football games 10 times a year. _Take a look at Japan's cities._ The reason HSR works in Japan is because it's a long thin island. It funnels the population into the single line that goes in two directions only. That's why all these HSR's don't work the same way in USA. We aren't traveling in two directions. How do you get to Lubbock or San Antonio? _either build a lot more roads or a few rail lines_ Or, walkable cities.
old white men is congress are not going to approve or pass any bill if it doesn't directly line their pockets. Evil & Greedy is their way of life and it's not gonna change anytime soon, my guy
A country the size of the state of California, lol. The US has long had an extensive road network and airline travel, which I'm sure has helped to stave off demand for rail.
I really want to experience this new opportunity to travel around America on this new system, I'm all for it. But, I also understand the land owner concerns. Hopefully they can come to some kind of agreement 😊!! Thank you!! Mic'2024
Start with a simple one, from Fort Worth to Dallas an back alongside I-30, that there would cut DFW's traffic by over 20%, even a monorail would be something
The reason Japan's and Europe's super high speed rail systems are so successful is that they connect major metropolitan centers that are relatively close together. Intercity travel times are competitive with air transport and freeway drive times. The most obvious travel market area to benefit from bullet train rail service would be the American northeastern corridor connecting Washington DC, Philadelphia, New York, and Boston. AMTRAK serves that corridor now with relatively fast "Acela" trains limited mostly to speeds of less than 100 mph. Yet, it is the only AMTRAK segment that is profitable. Even at slower speeds, compared to Japan's Shinkansen trains traveling at over 200 mph, AMTRAK is faster and more convenient than competing airline service when factoring in airport to city center drive or light rail times, and the two hour airport congestion and security wait times at departure airports. On the NE corridor, bullet trains on dedicated trackage would make economic sense, as perhaps also between large metro areas like Houston, San Antonio, and Dallas Fort Worth. I am skeptical though about the wisdom of locating the termini outside city business districts which will force passengers to navigate to city centers through suburban and inner city congestion. That's not faced by travelers on the northeast corridor, since they are deposited in city center terminals. So, super fast trains are not the silver bullet to transform America's intercity transportation system, but between certain high density population city pairs it makes sense. The danger, especially in liberty loving America, is when politics rather than economics dictate routing of the projected system. When that happens you get the mess you see in California with unsustainable cost overruns and trains to nowhere! You can also see similar problems in the cost overrun disaster in Britain's similar attempt to build high speed rail north from London. So beware, Texas!
As a Californian, this seems like an easy way for Texas and Florida politicians to brag about how much better their states are at completing large infrastructure projects.
Yeah and ppl hate California over here so it’s really shocking to me people don’t just want to do it just to stick to yall lmao And like jokes aside high speed rail for the Texas triangle is legitimately the perfect place to put it. Clean air conditioned roomy comfortable cheap transport across the Texas triangle is like what we need
@@MichaelfromtheGraves Merced to Bakersfield .. yeah, bragging points. And you're lucky if it's done by 2033. That's when they're projecting but they're still almost $100 billion short. Good luck.
I guess if you only cover Dallas and Houston and live in one of those two cities. Hope someone isn’t forced to sell their land to make your life easier.
this is absolutely necessary and would be a massive change for the better in not just texas - but also pushing for the expansion of high speed rail across all of the USA
If the project is so great then why can't they buy the needed land or easement voluntarily? Why do they need to use the government to take the land by force?
From San Antonio and high speed rail in Texas is something my friends and I talk about regularly. This should have happened years ago. 35, 45, and 10 + Southwest Airlines can't be the only options for a state with this much growth.
As someone who occasionally has to commute to Dallas from Houston, this has been needed for years. It is way too time-consuming and costly to go back and forth for businesses, and people
No it's because the country is so much bigger and everything is so much more spread out. It's far easier for other countries to invest in their HSR because they are so much smaller and people can actually experience the benefit of new rail lines put in. It's much harder to ask someone in Edmonton to pay more in taxes just so someone in Montreal doesn't have to drive to Toronto
@@loganleroy8622 You're right about the vastness and distances in the USA and Canada, but plan and realize a high-speed line in densely populated Germany or Japan where it feels like there's a town, a low mountain range or a castle in the way every 5 km. It's all relative my friend. 😉
@@gerhardma4297 It's precisely because Germany and Japan are densely populated that HSR makes more sense. In the US and Canada, everything and everyone is spread out. Driving on wide open flat roads is relaxing, driving through a mountain pass is stressful. Much more likely to convince someone to take a train to the other side of a mountain than to drive there.
As a Houstonian and frequent driver to Ft Worth, I’d definitely use the Lone Star Bullet Train. I-45 in desperate need of widening and paving. 2 lanes at the narrowest parts
Houston to Dallas in an hour would be insane - I have a ton of friends in Dallas I never get to see bc I hate I-45 N. It feels ridiculous that it takes 3+ hours to get to Dallas from Houston by car.
I have lived in Texas my whole life and I don’t know of any major city in Texas where people associate public transport with convenience or safety, especially at night. That is a major reason why Texans prefer cars. If the light rail planners want public support they need to go work on the existing public transport systems in Texas and prove to the public they can be made more efficient and more safe. Until then, I don’t see many average people clamoring to use a train that will begin and end in difficult to navigate cities.
Safety is one thing but the infrastructure is so hard to change. If you notice in Houston, Metro doesn’t even cover all quads efficiently. It’s hard to make routes when the streets within the loops barely leave enough space for more bus routes. If only we can replace the land barriers on the roads with a rail, that would be nice
It’s not the public transportation agencies in Texas that is the issue. It’s the local and state politics of Texas and the public transportation agencies that have to fight TXDOT every step of the way, just to provide basic service. The agencies are trying everything they can, TXDOT and local + state govt just makes it incredibly difficult for anything other than automobile infrastructure to be built in Texas
I live in Houston and take the light rail and busses fairly regularly and many times late at night (after a sporting event downtown, for instance). The issue that you're referring to is easily solved by actually employing someone (decent job added to the local economy) to check tickets rather than just having metro officers standing around at some of the platforms. The light rail has basically become free to use because nobody ever checks if you have a ticket. This is such an easy fix. But, as with anything public transit related, TxDOT simply doesn't want to fix it. They want the light rail to look dirty and unsafe so that fewer people will be willing to use it... because that's what the lobbyists want. Despite that, the light rail is completely packed during morning and evening rush hour as well as before and after games (Rockets, Astros, Dynamo, etc.) downtown. Expanding the light rail, especially to the airport and suburbs, would generate a ridiculous amount of use and go a long way toward alleviating the ridiculous traffic congestion we have here. More rail in many US cities, but especially one like Houston is a no-brainer!
This video should have done its due diligence in reporting why Texas Central abruptly stopped this project despite winning the supreme court ruling on imminent domain. It was because the estimated costs ballooned to $30B and the estimated ridership by independent analysts was only 1.4M people per year. They greatly over estimated the expected revenue and profits.
I’m a big fan of rail. I’ve ridden the Amtrak California Zephyr for fun. I have made a point to include rail, especially HSR, when I have visited Europe. This is not an opposition to rail. But if there are so many benefits and demand for intercity trains, where are the private companies looking to develop these lines?
The benefits aren't in ticket sales, they're in the greatly increased quality of life and value of the surrounding areas. When private lines _do_ manage to pop up (Such as Brighline in Florida) they only ever make money by buying up land around the route and selling it once the railroad increases real estate value
@@j-train13 But it's a business and ultimately, ticket sales are the ultimate goal. I don't discount that there are ancillary benefits but those justify billions of taxpayers dollars in a period with we are massively in debt and show little desire to slow that? If we must spend taxpayer dollars for some of these ancillary benefits surely there is a more efficient way of doing so than funding an uneconomic business enterprise. If Brightline can make a business model of private rail, even if part of that is through land purchases and development, then so can others. If that model is viable, there is the path to HSR that is economic and sustainable.
It's borderline impossible for a private company to compete in an industry where their competitors are subsidized at 30 to 70 times the rate they are...
Hope some day this is true. They also don't see the mental health issue that is for drivers to deal with crazy people driving around... Rail is gonna be a game changer for everyone in Texas. Also for the ones who enjoy driving, they will have fewer people on the road.
Right. Texas is very backwards. They lead in renewable energy generation. They **almost** built a HSR network using PRIVATE funds, unlike the financial disaster unfolding with California's HSR. The problem is simple. Tokyo metro has a population of about 38M. Osaka metro about 19M. Houston is 7M and Dallas-Fort Worth are 8M. The population density difference between Japan and Texas is staggering. Texas Central's cost estimate to build originally was $10B but that ballooned to $30B in 2023. Additionally, Texas Central overstated the ridership. They estimated 5.9M people per year, but independent analysis showed a maximum of 1.4M. The project was halted because it simply could not meet the revenue and or profits originally quoted. Now you know, bigot.
One problem which i find in US cities is lack of public transport for commuting within cities . People would find it affordable to drive rather than paying for HS Rail and Uber for reaching final destination. Asian cities provide last almost last mile / neighbourhood connectivity with Buses and Metros but such thing is lacking in Huston and Dallas within city commuting is Car centric . Boston - New York - DC would be a better choice to start High-speed Railway due to their already existing Metros .
proposed sites in Dallas would connect it to DART but proposed sites in Houston would need to expand the METRO to it. Though any Austin and San Antonio would be anyone’s guess with Austin scaling down their LRT plans and San Antonio not even having any.
I wish we had this already. I live in Houston and go to college in Dallas so I have to make the trip between fairly often. Having a train between would be amazing and save me so much time and money
More difficult. Not as many go between the two, there's hills everywhere, has a lot of aquifers and more underneath, would cross multiple major pipelines and the ground is very hard rock and limestone.
The biggest problem with California's HSR is that they only secured about 10% of funding & expected to get funds drip fed to them over time. That stalls production, increases chances of unforeseen delays dragging things out even further, and increased costs through inflation alone. If they secured most of the funding immediately, they wouldn't have this start/stop production & continuously need to lobby for more money. And as time goes on, the more annoyed taxpayers become. Every time they go back to that well, you'll have more & more resistance, spend more & more money on lobbying, and by the time you start construction again, prices will have gone up once more.
Im so glad the comment section is full of fellow texans that are begging for the railways to get built. When I was a kid I took a train ride up to Dallas and even to this day the route still picks you up at 7:00 a.m. from San Antonio and you don't get to Dallas until 3:00 p.m. You're better off driving then taking the train. Getting back home is equally bad as you have to leave Dallas. I think around 4: 00pm and don't get home till like 10:00 pm. There's also only one train per day that goes from San Antonio to Dallas. So if you miss 7:00 a.m. train you have to wait until the next one or just drive /fly
Just build trains in the middle of every highway system like Brightline West. Imagine how many people would stop driving when they see a train go by them at 150+ mph every day on their way to work!
@@greg.anywhere Agreed, no use arguing with the woman who wants to protect her farm. Just take two lanes away from the cars. There's still 10+ left for them!
This is why Japan is so far ahead of us on high speed rail service. The US has too many bureaucrats and one type of transportation company tries to stagnate another type of transportation company and progress of any kind is halted. We are going to be in the year 3000 and still have the same transportation because nobody will allow the other to progress. This is what is broken in America….Advancement. Too many silly lawsuits and propaganda to citizens. Stagnation. It might be faster to progress by simply moving to Japan. 😏 Good lord!
As a native Texan i would love to see a high speed rail between the major cities Armillio el paso Abilene Lubbock fort worth Dallas austin houston san antonio Texarkana middland/Odessa the whole state a web of tracks would make the lone star state much better in my opinion
Would you rather A. Drive 3-4 hours (that’s with no traffic) between these cities B. Arrive 2 hours early for a 1 hour flight, with total travel time (baggage check/pickup, TSA, taxiing, etc.) being around 4-5 hours Or C. Take a 90 minute train between Dallas and Houston that you arrive for 15-20 minutes before departure. Get 2 free checked bags (Amtrak’s standard baggage policy), No TSA lines, no forcing you to buy overpriced food and drinks, etc.
I’ll never understand why building high speed rail or even light rail is so political. Not everyone wants to depend on a car and not everyone can afford it.
Car and Oil companies want you to depend on it. That's how they make hand over fist in profits every year by having a monopoly on the US's mode of travel.
Rich people's way of excluding the poor from the suburbs by requiring a car
It's a zero-sum game. One more person to ride public transit means one less person to drive
NIMBYs
Many people are convinced by years of misinformation that the moment you step on a bus youll get stabbed. Though i think thats been turning around in the last decade
"I will continue to fight for Texans." This woman does not in any way shape of form speak for the rest of us. This should have been built DECADES ago. Please bring high speed rail to Texas ASAP.
In hindsight we should have expanded rail as part of the interstate highway projects but it’s a little late for that now.
I’ve drive the Houston to Dallas route many times and it SUCKS. I would absolutely take rail but the biggest issue I see is the lack of interconnection at the ends. There needs to be a tie in to Amtrak in Houston, tie in to Ft worth and the other major areas in the DFW area, and a better (not bus) tie in to Houston’s light rail (even though it’s a joke). Side note, Houston’s light rail is a joke and should have been built in decades ago.
I’ve lived in Texas and New York and it’s sooooo nice being able to take a train everywhere and not have to worry about traffic, or designated driver, or parking, and so on
@@MilwaukeeF40C u cant either stop inflation without building this;hence, its better to build it.
We have been waiting for this for more than three decades. Screw the landowners and farmers. They do not care about the rest of us. They are corrupted by airlines and oil companies.
@@cruisinguy6024yes, end point connections are important. At the current state expanding any rail or public transit network is immensely important and will lead to other development in this area. Even if the Texas HDR initially ends at not great locations in Dallas and Houston, in sure the cities would start developing better connections, with light rail or anything, that will make it a complete network.
Fight for Texans? What about women in Texas, and their right to make their own choices with their bodies?
“It’s gonna cut Madison county and every other county it goes through in half” last time I checked it’s a lot easier to walk across/under a rail line than it is to cross a highway lmao.
Preach it!
FR
LOL for real. When I heard that, I was thinking "the highway already cut it in half, plus it's safer to cross or go under it than crossing the highway where someone can deliberately try to run you over".
Yeah. Most of the opposition I've seen to the project are invalid, based on rumors and lies spread by politicians and lobbyists.
"What we need is wider highways." So, you're suggesting we nix a rail project and instead replace it with a project that will take even more land with imminent domain???
Then there's the argument about how people will still have to drive to the station. I don't see how that's an issue, because people still drive to the airport, and it beats driving 4-6 hours between Houston and Dallas.
So much misinformation is getting spread.
@@Ncyphen "what we need is wider highways" I thought to myself, " so you can increase more complexity and get more people killed in crashes?" I'd say we need to get rid of some highways and replace it with rails, that would be better than taking up more land imo.
It is funny they always use the excuse about still having to drive a car here and there when they already do that going to and from airports, but what they don't want to realize is not everyone does drive at all. Some of us are cyclist and we prefer our bikes as a way to get around, at least I do anyways.
eminent domain on 10 lane highways? - no problem, have a good day!
eminent domain on a single high speed rail line? - hell NO, we need to protest this!
American airlines hq and southwest airlines..both in dallas. Follow thr money.
@emikomina THAT ☝️
I don't understand why the rail viaducts can't just be run down the median of the interstate for most of its length, for this and many other HSR projects. It's already acquired land and most of these highways go where people are wanting to go.
@@Altoclarinets I think one reason is because highways twist and turn, sometimes tightly. Which true high speed rail systems need to run as straight as possible so as to maximize speed.
bank, pitch, curve requirements for cars vs trains. That's why. Especially for a bullet train.@@Altoclarinets
The thing that gets me is when we built the interstate system most people's land that was taken had no say, it displaced millions and generates lots of noise and air pollution. An electric train is less land over viaducts and generates way less noise and no air pollution. Having some farmers that own huge acres saying its disruptive successfully blocking it is insane.
Right? I remember during the highway craze, they just destroyed neighborhoods without an issue. Now that we have high speed rail which would take up arguably less land to take everyone is against it 🙄
Oh were issues, up to what's been dubbed "freeway riots". Thing is the freeway plans affected primarily poor minority neighborhoods, most successful opposition were rich white communities like Manhattan and Pasadena.
Good it’s the farmers land they shouldn’t sell it
It's not really an issue of farmers not wanting to give up their land. It's an issue of getting enough money out of the transaction. It depends if they make the area under the elevated platform accessible. It also changes how the machinery has to be used. Texas has less strict environmental laws, so at least they don't have to worry about this getting stuck in courts for decades as all the environmental lawyers take their cut.
a train isn't less land and it's way more intrusive.
That woman shouldn’t say she will continue to fight for Texas. I’m a Texan that has lived in Houston my entire life and I’m for high speed rail.
Same here!!
You can’t speak for other Texans either 😂. She’s a farmer obviously she, along w many other farmers will be impacted by it... we should really invest into our border security.
free Texassssss
I've lived in Dallas 27 years and I am totally against it. Im tired of city people only thinking about themselves and their convenience. What gives you the right to divide someones land and deny them access to both sides?
@@Jojoixvi Trains in Texas (referring to high speed rail) is nothing but a limit on Minority lands. Rich people only see their benefit. If people want to travel then they can take a plane or a car to their destination. April 2024.
So it's fine to tear down neighborhoods to build highways. But a high speed railway through a farm is an issue?🤨
Note: over a farm.
Lady is like, "I'll fight for mysel-, uh, Texans! I'm fighting for Texans!" A handful of selfish, horrible people like that hold the entire country back. See also: billionaires.
Right? We have to make sacrifices for the greater good and this is a great good. How can people be fine with adding yet another lane to a highway but not a single lane or two for a train?
@@thndr_5468 Are you aware of how much farm land was lost building highways?! We are running out of useable farmland. We still need to eat.
you obviously didn't understand my point. I'm saying people are fine with using land for highways but seem to vehemently hate any amount of land being used for trains which is silly@@artchick07
as a central texan, this is desperately needed. i HATE driving 4 hours from austin to houston/dallas. high-speed rail would be a GAMECHANGER.
You could also adjust your life to not require so much unnecessary travel.
@@MilwaukeeF40C . it's hard to simply "adjust" tens of thousands of lives out of the blue, and travel between the 4 major central texas cities is necessary for a LOT of people.
HOWEVER, way more people do not travel in such way, and they have to pay for it with their tax money. I would have supported high speed as long as it had paid for itself by ticket revenue. @@void_skyy
Not when you find out the price of the ticket.
I understand your point. I hate paying so much for mortgage. Free housing or highly subsidized housing would be a GAMECHANGER for all of us
Currently sitting in standstill traffic on I-35 from Austin to San Antonio wishing we had high speed rail.
PLEASE BUILD THIS.
Update now just moved for 100 yards at 3mph. Now standing still again on the highway…
It’s such a pain to drive between the two cities, and we’re not even that far from each other 😢
20 years ago, we used to drive 45 min from Live Oak (north of SA) to South of Austin...😂 I remember those days. My cousin used to live near riverside, and we used to drive back and forth.
Did you ever make it home?@russ_garcia
Wouldn’t do you any good lol
I'm a farmer who has a proposed highway planned through our rented land. It's weird for me to see other farmers against rail. If you oppose rail, you'll end up losing far more land to new and wider highways in the future. Not to mention that cars are also far more environmentally damaging and costly.
Also thanks to highways, tons of farmland gets redeveloped into suburbs. The sort of zoning code that spreads everything out leads to more highways which leads to more congestion which leads to ever greater sprawl
@Demopans5990 yes exactly, sprawl follows highways. It's an awful cycle. Rail built North America and gave us nice, vibrant walkable, economically productive downtowns. Why can't we have that again?
The population is peaking. What if any new sht is a waste?
deanorr5378 All of that existed before the government interfered in transportation and land use. So if you want that to come back, central planning, subsidies, and taxes need to be shtcanned.
@@MilwaukeeF40CTexas populat:on's boom:ng. lt should exceed 40 M by the early 2040s to become the most populous state.
Amazing how much lobbying holds our country back
The crazy thing is Southwest would have still been successful and would have adapted very quickly.
@@mediocreman2I can’t imagine many people are actually flying from city to city within Texas for any reason other than a connection, and in that case they wouldn’t be competing with the rail line.
You should see how much Amtrak lobbies to keep DART from building a high speed rail they have been trying to build since the early 2000's. Amtrak is afraid they will loose all of Texas to DART. Kinda embarrassing for a essentially government funded company to loose out to the private sector.
It's called corruption and bribery
@@mediocreman2 in this situation there would be no competition. The problem is that if they give them ground to make progress and more rails link up, they may start to lose business on longer connections
17 years old. Born and have lived in Texas my whole life. I’ve never been on a train. Ever. I think I’d be cool.
36 here, South Texas born never experienced a train ride in Texas. Not until I flew to Africa and rode on their trains from Nairobi to Mombasa about 10 years ago. Its shocking that what we consider a third world country they are more ahead of us. Texas sure could benefit a high speed railway system.
Not only is this a positive for climate purposes, but this could also save Americans hundreds to thousands in car maintenance and gas, that’s what makes this appealing to me
High speed rail is more competing against airplanes then cars at least for the 200-400km mark.
Regular public transit replaces daily commute e.g. bus, trains or metro.
Don't forget it also saves people's time, that would otherwise be wasted on congested highways.
Kind of depends on the price of using the rail and how much driving a person may still have to do doesn't it?
Which is exactly why it won’t happen. Lobbyists always get the final say
Not exactly super clean because it’s still gonna use coal and natural gas for the electricity, but yeah still a good improvement for the environment.
Texas contains several of the top 10 most populated cities in the U.S. They’re all simultaneously far enough apart that driving between them is a pain, but they’re close enough for high speed rail to be more efficient than flying. It’s a no brainer.
The I35 corridor makes a lot more sense from a deisty stand point it has 3 major meteor areas and 2-3 minor ones. But construction would be more challenging as it's a lot more built up.
@@Patmorgan235Us I-35 is essentially a giant parking lot on weekdays between 7am and 9am and 3pm and 7pm. We have a saying in north Austin. If you want to get to South Austin during South by Southwest, Austin City Limits, or racedays, then it's must faster to drive up to Oklahoma City, across to Denver, down to El Paso, follow the border to Brownsville, then come up through San Antonio than it is to drive I-35 south.
As in you must not have a brain to support it, sure
I am a Houston resident, and I've brought this up with so many people around here who have told me that in an ideal world they would absolutely love to see this built. There are genuinely very little downside to it. They'll literally build it on viaduct just so your cattle can go through, and you still block it because you have some bizarre disgust for the outside world and new technologies? You ask any farmer in Japan what they think about the bullet train, I promise you they will give positive reviews. It connects them to every corner of the country where they can go to find new customers for their product, they can easily go visit family at the blink of an eye, and so much more!
Never understood why US is 50 years behind other developed nations in public transport. Bring this!
Car, Oil, and Airline lobbyists strong arming and using fear tactics over the years are the reason for this. Also, highway surveyors don't get paid by saying "yeah, highspeed rail makes more sense here than a lane widening project". They get paid by building more highway.
lol were not.
@@fauxbro1983 you just don't know how well-built it is in other countries... I can tell you that we are the best in many things but public transport certainly isn't one
@fauxbro1983, you're showing that you've never been outside the US...
It's easier to get around on public transit in Dubai and Doha than in Dallas, and it's infamously car-centric in the Gulf States.
Everyone complains about traffic, adding lanes isn't the answer. Getting cars off the roads is. But America loves its cars.
Privatize everything.
They don’t love cars, they are held hostage to use their cars
@@MilwaukeeF40CPrivate transit has a really hard time making a profit for all sorts of reasons, but it's usually a great public investment for stimulating other economic activity. Roads aren't privatized either for the same reasons.
You forgot trucks. They live their cars and WORSHIP their trucks. All this while complaining about gas prices.
I love cars and driving but any alternative transport I’ll all for it. Less cars on the road the better.
Everyone who doesn't claim to want this, actually NEEDS this.
The United States desperately needs more transit. Faster, cheaper, and environmentally friendly! Texas is the perfect state to adopt a high speed network. Bring it!
It’s already happening in FL
Hell yea!!! Bring It!!!!
lol imagine thinking this bullet train would be actually cheap.
Prepare to pay $150+ per ticket one way
@@harambe2552 cheaper than air in my experience
No we definitely don’t
The "local" Shinkansen is 3.5 hours from Tokyo to Osaka. The express (the most common service) is just under 2.5 hours and costs about $85. No US visitor could ride a Shinkansen and leave thinking we shouldn't have these in America. The best part about it is how easy it is. You don't really even need to check the timetables. You go to the station when you're ready, buy a ticket for the next one (they run every 8-20 minutes), and then you're on your way. You're not even tired when you arrive.
Even in Germany.. but the problem is.. not many US people travel outside of their states.. especially people from Texas.
@@hadriangonzalez607 I mean, I don't know about that, outside the country, sure, but state? I'm sure a large majority has taken family trips to grandma's house or the nearest coast (if not in a coastal state). I think it's more accurate to say that most Americans haven't been on a train, after all, only certain cities have metros, and the rest of the country is barely served.
It's roughly 15,000Y or $100.
@fleetingimmersion sorry I'm just using my states, Texas, statistics. Not many Texans travel outside of Texas.
@@hadriangonzalez607 Ah, I see. Yeah I can see a lot of Texans not leaving the state that often. I live on the east coast (Virginia) and though it takes a few hours, we can cross several states in less than a day, which is useful to see some caverns or historical landmarks in nearby states, hence road trip.
Recently went to Europe and traveled on high speed rail. It was great. Very smooth. At times up to 186 mph. And then you get to a good sized city and you don’t need a car because they have a metro system that takes you everywhere and the trains run very frequently
ever been on an inner-city bus lately???hahahah
@@markanderson4163American buses are terrible because they’re underfunded. You would not be complaining if you took an “inner-city bus” in Amsterdam
She is really farming all that land with that tool??!! 6:27
No, that was just for the camera. I'm sure she has larger equipment for the farm.
@@Modine. did you see how her farmland did look like? There doesnt seem to be any farming activity going on there at all.
@@alexejvornoskov6580 probably one of the many people who file their taxes claiming their properties are farmland so they can avoid taxes.
Probably a fake lobby group (‘astroturfing’ rather than ‘grass-roots’) set up and funded by big oil, auto and airline interests. That’s how they usually oppose HSR in the US.
@@alexnorth757 i def wanna do that ;D uncle sam is killing me with these taxes
We used the Shinkansen system in Japan for the first time this year. The convenience and how it’s stress-less is amazing. People also need to realize that if you miss your train, you can just get on the next one (you’d lose your reserved seats, but still have the ability to get on the unreserved cars)
I've lived in Texas all my life and wish there was a highspeed rail. That lady doesn't speak for us. WE NEED IT.
fun fact: the Japanese HSR system was controversial during its inception due to it massively over budget and was incredibly delayed. It is now a model for the rest of the world. These things cost money and take forever but in 40 years everyone will love them. Those who like driving will love it because less people will drive!
The rest of the world has also studied the Japanese model of debt spending to GDP for 40 years. The conclusion? Not really recommended.
roro4787 Gold standard of what? What is superior?
And do you want China governance?
And nobody talks about how it went over budget. Just how awesome the trains are.
@roro4787 Ah yes, the country where the government is literally behind everything that is made there. It is easy for them to invest however much money needed to get it going to make it look good.
I would say for a private model japanese rails are as good as you will get. Doesn't excuse whatever basically abandoned lines they cut but I suppose if they truly were derogated why keep them?
@@MilwaukeeF40C Pretty sure there's more to that problem than HSR, lmao.
"Berry's family has farmed this land for generations"
shows land covered in weeds and dry patches with no signs of farming*
She’s just holding out for the right price
@@BaoNguyen-un1kmwell, Texas can just seize it.
That's not very democratic@@TheBooban
The shot of her using a tool at 6:29 in the video also looks like she's doing it just for the video. I bet she has just enough growing to classify it as "farm land" for whatever tax breaks you might get in Texas. Those overhead shots showing the land with shrubs and trees (tall ones bigger than the homes, which are not of the fruit variety) and a tiny little portion which I would classify as a "garden plot", just to keep up the illusion that' it's a working farm.
@@vascobranco5296 eminent domain, as mentioned in the video. Not democratic? Life is full of harsh realities.
Not just Texas, but AMERICA needs this. Break the oil and gas lobby
I guess this is the major problem.
stopping highspeed rail for a ugly patch of dirt is crazy work
Lol as long as it is other's land we can talk s#it...
6:30 She doesn’t even look like she know how to farm 🤣🤣🤣🤣
For a rotten shed that could easily be built better is also insane...
@@SA-nu2so the aerial shots of her land and the like 3 crops she was digging around make her place look like a farm just like i and my 250lb gut make me look like an olympic athlete.
They should ban it
The last mile problem has to be solved. In Houston, this has to connect to the light rail and there has to be a large parking lot at the terminus for those who the light rail is not convenient.
This would be an unbelievable development for business. Reducing the commute to an hour between these two cities would open up incredible possibilities. The economic impact would far exceed the dollars spent.
An hour? That would practically join those cities into 1😊
"The last mile problem has to be solved". Exactly. For high speed rail to be successful in Texas, it has to connect downtown business centers, IMHO.
METRO already has a bunch of projects to build a transit center and BRT to the Houston station. A light rail connection is on the road map but not currently funded.
@eddyr1041
In many ways, thanks to Amtrak, the NE Corridor is one massive city.
The problem is the Houston light rail is an utter joke, and has been for some time. Like, how does it still not connect to at least IAH???
Texas has a massive transportation infrastructure deficiency.
As a DFW resident I would absolutely love a high speed rail line here
At 1:33, does she think that she is fighting for Texans by preventing alternative modes of travel.
She is actually fighting against that grandmother that can't drive anymore who wants to visit their family or that teen who can't afford an automobile. We need critical voices to prevent things going out of control like costs and environmental concerns but opposing voices like hers hurts everyone. Especially since it seems to come from a lack of understanding of the benefits over the disadvantages.
Exactly, she’s fighting against the worker who can’t afford a car who wants to visit their family, the grandparent who can no longer drive safely, the businessman/woman who can leave for a business trip in the morning and be back the same night to spend time with their family. She’s only fighting for herself and that joke she calls a farm.
Oh look a non Texan who doesn’t care about anyone but himself. Howdy.
She's fighting for land owners who don't want their land forcefully taken from them for a railroad that won't benefit them.
I was a teen when I first heard about this project now I have a house and a wife. I'll be using this in spirit by the time this finishes
Oh man. 😮💨
Give Texas a High-speed rail. I’m 100% for this.
I love riding the Shinkansen.
more likely be Avelia Liberty if Amtrak takes over.
@@Perich29 When considering how badly Alstom has performed with building Avelias for NEC, I don't think Amtrak is buying anything from Alstom anytime soon.
Add them to the blacklist with Bombardier.
🚆I loved it too, my Japanese hosts were so proud of it 30 years ago.
You would think the guy that narrates this otherwise insightful mini-doc would spend one minute to learn its proper pronunciation!
I have found that opponents of the system have never ridden a high speed train. I loved riding the AVE in Spain when I studied there in 2007. It took two and a half hours to go from Sevilla to Madrid, and that was with three stops. (There are even non-stop express trains, which expedite travel times even more.) Even with high speed rail, we will still need planes and cars, but at least it will give us a much better option for traveling regional distances.
TBF there are down sides to public transportation BUT it almost always offset by the numerous benefits to society
@14:00 Tokyo to Osaka is 2h 22minutes by train... with a max speed of 285km/h and its fastest route makes 4 stops at Shinagawa, Yokohama, Nagoya, and Kyoto before terminating at Shin-Osaka. These trains run every 6-10 minutes during busy times. The 3.5hour quote is for the all-stops Kodama service... which only runs hourly.
Texas HSR will be using a newer trainset on straighter tracks with only one stop at Brazos Valley and will travel up to 350km/h if I'm not mistaken.
Ask the people in Europe or Asia if they regret having High Speed Rail.
Not at all (Whoosh is the name of my country's HSR💀)
People in the US don't seem to understand how to adopt what works well in other countries... it's infuriating.
@@jonathanpicket124 "People in the US don't seem to understand how to adopt what works well in other countries... it's infuriating."
People in other countries don't have the same economic outcomes as we do in the USA. But, we can raise YOUR taxes if you want to pay for HSR.
@@JohnSmith-zi9or You’re absolutely right that “People in other countries don't have the same economic outcomes as we do in the USA.” We have the 7th highest GDP per capita among all countries, yet our social spending isn’t even top 20. So, what good is that high GDP doing the average person? There are far more countries with a lower income disparity, happier, more educated, and a more free populace. We are not the best at anything other than producing a strong military (it’s not even a fair comparison considering how much we spend on our “defense” budget). So, alluding to the idea that we are the best and that it's because of our high GDP is downright idiotic.
How about we raise YOUR taxes to pay for the national highway system that’s falling apart? We pay far more just to maintain that oil and gas subsidy than we spend on any rail infrastructure.
@@jonathanpicket124 "So, alluding to the idea that we are the best and that it's because of our high GDP is downright idiotic. "
No, you did. We can have all of those things, we just need to raise everyone's taxes to 30-45% like those countries.
Nobody has better outcomes than the USA. It is why everyone wants to come here. However, you have the freedom to be an idiot, to be of poor health, to live in poverty. That's the difference.
High speed rail in the US needs to happen. Not only is it another option for travellers, which is always a plus, but other modes must compete for those dollars.
Even if it does happen it will only be 1 or 2 short lines at most. The US will NEVER get a network like China.
@@308_Negra_Arroyo_Lane I wouldn't put too much stock in how China does things. They construct colossal buildings, rail networks, etc in astounding time frames. But what might have been sacrificed for speed?
@@davidpaz9389 China's HSR system is the greatest network of transportation in the history of mankind. nothing compares to its quality and quantity
Good, build it in your backyard then...
@@spyderlogan4992 The county, state, US, and interstate highways we all use were built in someone's backyard. If you live in TX like I do the reservior you fish and boat in flooded someone's backyard.
As someone who has lived in SA, Waco, and Austin.. please include the WHOLE triangle. Not just Dallas & Houston!!!
I imagine they plan to but it’s one step at a time
Good to see Andy Byford working on this. He was great when he was running the TTC in Toronto.
Andy Byford is a god. He's been great running things everywhere he's been!
Andy Byford also saved the MTA while he worked in NYC. NYC loved him so much that he’s well known across the city as Train Daddy and there are murals across the city for him 😂 so glad he’s working at Amtrak now to help push this!
@@KrishnaAdettiwarWasn't Andy Byford driven out of the MTA? He didn't seem to be there very long.
@@NotaPizzaGRL he wasn’t driven out, the governor (Andrew Cuomo) kept meddling with Andy’s plans and didn’t allow Andy to run the MTA independently. Cuomo would apparently start leaving Andy off important meetings at the state level which directly involved the MTA, but would include Andy’s direct reports. Apparently it was this whole mess, Andy didn’t get the support he needed and kept having to fight his way through Cuomo for even basic things at some point, and he eventually left
14:12 Fastest train from Tokyo to Osaka actually takes only 2.5 hours, not 3.5 stated in the video. In reality it's a huge difference. CNBC should supposedly be good at numbers...
I'd argue most Japanese people don't give a sh*t about the environment in terms of travel, taking the Shinkansen is simply the best and logical option for traveling between some cities (e.g. Tokyo to Nagoya, Fukuoka to Kumamoto, etc.)
what sources are you pulling this from? Japanese culture and society has always been very trash aware and waste management minded for the citizens, so this is the first I've heard of such a claim being argued
The Japanese poured tens of thousands of tons of nuclear-contaminated water into the sea. Is this what you call Japanese culture?@@lysandertavish1684
That's not a bad thing. You want to align people's incentives with the public good. Otherwise you are forcing people to make a hard choice every time they travel.
lol agreed, especially if you've been to the local combini and all the produce including apples and bananas are in plastic
@@lysandertavish1684oh really? Google minamata disease then
"I will continue to impede any progress" is what she meant to say.
Nothing about this is progress.
@@rvw8066 I imagine if you had ever left Texas and visited places like Japan, France, Italy, Switzerland, etc. You would recognize why what you are saying is just stupid. I know it must be hard to understand when you don't travel outside much, but to people who have to commute, we prefer not dealing with extreme congestion.
@@rvw8066 I guess it wasn't progress when internet companies got you connected on your little hick farm huh?
@@rvw8066 Then dont complain when Texas begins to pile up traffic like whats happening in California. Dont blame it on the californians! Blame it on people like you!
@@SirSayakaMikiThe3rdstop stealing peoples land
I, a texan, support this
Let's make America the rail world leader again!
Then you have 3+ leaders to surpass before seeing the taillight of China.
Costs too much. Have you seen how much it costs per foot ?
@@here-i-am2316Yeah moron that's how it works. You build expensive rail so the cost per mile of anything running on it is extremely low.
@@here-i-am2316Have you seen how much we give Ukraine?
@@here-i-am2316 have you researched how much it cost to make and operate a road. Comparable and a rail is less damaging to the environment. No run off, less noise, less space consumed. There are other forces in play that won’t let this happen.
This how you make America great ..... Doing something positive and productive
Would you vote for Trump if he announced HSR between city pairs that make sense?
This is actually terrible
@@JohnSmith-zi9or the Trump train plan would be coal burning steam engines to help his 1% buddies in the mining industry 🇺🇸 the only infrastructure he cares about is what he can personally profit from
I lived in Japan and travelled many times on the Shinkansen (bullet train in Japanese) from Nagoya downtown to Tokyo downtown in 1.5 hour. It was wonderful, fast and very convenient. No brainer if well done, believe me.
Great to see another CNBC Video about trains, it's been a good minute. No matter how expensive startup construction costs may be for anything rail related, it's always worth building since it takes up less land and will be connecting millions of people on a daily basis. Also, several highway projects have exponentially higher costs, yet are still getting endless funding from the U.S. government, so it's not fair to complain about rail which has more benefits while much more destructive highways are being built with almost no vocal opposition.
"Exponentially higher" with respect to what variable? Distance? Passenger capacity?
Honestly as a Texan, i hate treaveling on the open road. Nothing but endless concrete. Dangerous as well.
No you don’t
@The_king567
It's like driving in NYC traffic, but at 60+. And with more pickups everywhere. At least you can be reasonably sure what the cars around you will be doing as you drive in NYC, that is, staying still
@@The_king567bros trying to control people💀
@@railfannerryan yes
@@The_king567 based on your response I can assume you’re a spoiled gen alpha brat with unrestricted internet access
As a Southern Californian, i'm amazed how Texans in these comments see so eager for High Speed rail. Everyone where I live hates the idea, but I do believe connecting cities this way really revolutionizes local economies. Especially with out housing crisis here, I know so many peope would rather live somewhere more affordable but still be able to visit their home cities or just be able to travel freely between major cities without sitting through traffic or needing to buy a plane ticket.
Anecdotally, I took the train/bus route from San Diego to San Francisco last year and it took roughly 14 hours, sitting in really dinky buses and trains. I just googled it and a bullet train would only take 3 hours to go from LA to San Fran, thats insane. We need HSR bad
cali has been "building" it for years, don't expect the project to actually be completed
The first bullet train in America will see huge numbers of riders for the sheer novelty effect alone.
But will they then continue riding beyond novelty?
for the first week
No it won’t it will go bankrupt in a year
@@The_king567 If the Shinkansen or TGV taught us anything, it would be a success.
@@Dorito8052 prove it then
nothing will get done in America because before you get something done you have to ask someone's grandma and then their grandma has to ask somebody elses' grandma and the cycle goes on forever.
and bc you cant grab land whenever u feel like it, when u buy land, landowner who don't wanna sell push prices up and also stupid construction laws
It will eventually
Yes, there's always the Not In My Backyard supporters. I understand their concerns to a certain extent.
Sounds like damn if you do, damn if you don’t.
That's what happens when you don't live in a communist/socialist country. We actually have the right to say "no" to anyone wanting to use our land. sure it's inconvenient sometimes, but it beats being forced by daddy govt to give up our land.
I like this Andy Byford guy. He seems well-spoken and passionate, knows the key arguments (like the distance sweet spot), and is aware of the state of the issue not just in his own country but internationally (see the comment about highways getting easier subsidies). Dunno his track record but it's a good first impression.
Would've liked to see slightly more about the pros/cons of the Dallas terminus versus the Fort Worth extension.
The irony of many American’s sentiment against transit and HSR is that they argue it takes away their freedom. When in actuality, their “freedom” (cars), is forced onto the public, including people who may not want to or can’t afford a car.
As an American, this irony is so frustrating. My own family, “progressive” people I work with, racial justice advocates locally, all act like anything other than driving infrastructure is a waste of taxpayer dollars.
These same people go through invasive and inconvemient airport security lines to squeeze themselves into flying sardine cans. Planes are a net benefit, but if you have no problem with them, spare me the "freedom" line, because air travel is very restrictive.
What if I want freedom from ANYTHING subsidized at my expense, causing inflation?
@@MilwaukeeF40C Have you seen the price of cars lately? Talk about inflation at one’s expense.
@@MilwaukeeF40C Okay. Lets stop subsidizing Energy, and oil companies and enjoy paying for that 12-15 dollar /gal gas. :)
Texas would benefit greatly with high speed rail, their zoning laws are much lenient, land there is cheap, and it's mostly flat with major cities. But most Americans don't get the value of trains, even though it is a necessary public utility in a country. The United States, despite problems with cost of living and wealth inequality, it is still a first-world country. And the semblance of a first-country is great public transportation, such as, trains. In my opinion, for Americans to be conditioned to supporting high speed rail, which is more expensive than regular rail systems, metro systems should be built in cities first. Because building high speed rail that connect major cities is a good idea, however the benefits don't immediately reach a larger number of people, as people will prefer to drive instead to not be hassled on renting a vehicle once they reach their destination. A robust metro system like Tokyo's system put in place in America cities would immediately sell the future of rail in the country, because the product would be speed and convenience. Once die-hard car people experience that, they might change their views on public transportation into supporting rail. The current narrative of die-hard car loving Americans is that it is political, trains equate Liberals, Socialism, and Leftist, while cars and highways mean freedom, patriotism, and Right-Wing. It is rather strange why it's like that. It should be a point of national pride if the country has a robust transportation system, regardless where you lie on the political spectrum.
The United States, as first-world country, is lagging behind on public transportation compared to other countries. And this should be fixed.
In fact, USA is the world leader in train transport. But we transport cargo, not people. Our rail lines span the entire country, east to west, north to south. And it usually travels in the rural areas where you don't see it. Because it's is more cost efficient to fill cars full of goods, then partially full of people. No surprise that Amtrak is wholly owned by the government, and makes the case that rail "isn't a factor" to our society, while the exact opposite is true. More government lies.
If you use train to the city, you arrive with no car. Stuck. Video already showed the tracks stop outside the city. High speed rail is the ultimate public transport. But all the other bits gotta be done first.
@Makko404 _All people want is just a short segment of that cargo rail distance_
That is the biggest problem. This short rail benefits a small segment of the population, and requires actual billions of dollars. The road budget too, is billions of dollars, yet benefits the entire state. This short line, is nothing more than the plaything of rich people to attend football games, and buy trinkets at gift shops hundreds of miles away. Nobody commutes hundreds of miles to work. We can't have "walkable neighborhoods" while simultaneously transporting people hundreds of miles away to attend school. This isn't sustainable.
The U.S is not a first world country.
@Makko404 Because the national road budget is spent on roads that need it. Which includes everything from converting dirt roads into paved, or widening highways. Conversely, the budget for this rail line is only usable to those within the vicinity of 2 stations.
_why can't we have walk-able neighborhoods alongside rail?_
That isn't the point I was making. The argument is, very few actually need to go between these two cities, simply because they are both large. The primary reason, was to attend a football game. Billionaire backed stadiums are killing cities. How come there's never any money for quality school lunches, but there's billions available for shopping sprees in Houston?
However, to answer your question: Walkable neighborhoods are more expensive to live in. Homebuyers in America's largest metro areas pay 35 percent more for walkable real estate. Renters pay a 41 percent premium. So why would you pay premiums to live somewhere close to everything, when the goal is to travel hundreds of miles away, for what, exactly? Again, the case presented in this video, is to attend football games 10 times a year.
_Take a look at Japan's cities._
The reason HSR works in Japan is because it's a long thin island. It funnels the population into the single line that goes in two directions only. That's why all these HSR's don't work the same way in USA. We aren't traveling in two directions. How do you get to Lubbock or San Antonio?
_either build a lot more roads or a few rail lines_
Or, walkable cities.
PLEASE MAKE THIS HAPPEN
Southwest Airlines: "Noooooooo!!!".
@@stevechance150 No body wants to fly on the POS 737 MAX. Ground transportation are lot safer than air travel.
@@Perich29 statistically speaking, air travel is still far safer than nearly all ground travel. THAT BEING SAID: I think trains are way cooler
@@Perich29"Ground transportation are lot safer than air travel." with the possible exception of the MAX, that is completely untrue.
@@evaluateanalysis7974 except the extent of damage with the max was a door falling out.. at least in the US
My third world country of Morocco has high speed rail. I don't see why transportation can be this political in a country.
HSR is too slow for a large country over about 500 miles.
old white men is congress are not going to approve or pass any bill if it doesn't directly line their pockets.
Evil & Greedy is their way of life and it's not gonna change anytime soon, my guy
@@rayb.6537Way to go on taking constructive criticism👍
A country the size of the state of California, lol. The US has long had an extensive road network and airline travel, which I'm sure has helped to stave off demand for rail.
@@chickenfishhybrid44It was more the work of lobbyists but yes 👍
I really want to experience this new opportunity to travel around America on this new system, I'm all for it. But, I also understand the land owner concerns. Hopefully they can come to some kind of agreement 😊!! Thank you!! Mic'2024
Give the landowners part stock investment into the projects for consideration ❤!! Thank you!! Mic'2024 😊!!
Air travel is quickly becoming overwhelmed and unreliable. Time to invest in rail in America!
yep especially with that Southwest fiasco during Christmas, and ongoing horrible incidents in flights
Not to mention the recent Boeing crisis.
Start with a simple one, from Fort Worth to Dallas an back alongside I-30, that there would cut DFW's traffic by over 20%, even a monorail would be something
I’m from Texas and it will be beautiful to have a high speed railway connecting all the big cities.
The reason Japan's and Europe's super high speed rail systems are so successful is that they connect major metropolitan centers that are relatively close together. Intercity travel times are competitive with air transport and freeway drive times. The most obvious travel market area to benefit from bullet train rail service would be the American northeastern corridor connecting Washington DC, Philadelphia, New York, and Boston. AMTRAK serves that corridor now with relatively fast "Acela" trains limited mostly to speeds of less than 100 mph. Yet, it is the only AMTRAK segment that is profitable. Even at slower speeds, compared to Japan's Shinkansen trains traveling at over 200 mph, AMTRAK is faster and more convenient than competing airline service when factoring in airport to city center drive or light rail times, and the two hour airport congestion and security wait times at departure airports. On the NE corridor, bullet trains on dedicated trackage would make economic sense, as perhaps also between large metro areas like Houston, San Antonio, and Dallas Fort Worth. I am skeptical though about the wisdom of locating the termini outside city business districts which will force passengers to navigate to city centers through suburban and inner city congestion. That's not faced by travelers on the northeast corridor, since they are deposited in city center terminals.
So, super fast trains are not the silver bullet to transform America's intercity transportation system, but between certain high density population city pairs it makes sense. The danger, especially in liberty loving America, is when politics rather than economics dictate routing of the projected system. When that happens you get the mess you see in California with unsustainable cost overruns and trains to nowhere! You can also see similar problems in the cost overrun disaster in Britain's similar attempt to build high speed rail north from London. So beware, Texas!
As a Californian, this seems like an easy way for Texas and Florida politicians to brag about how much better their states are at completing large infrastructure projects.
California High Speed Rail will be the state's biggest bragging point in 10 years
Yeah and ppl hate California over here so it’s really shocking to me people don’t just want to do it just to stick to yall lmao
And like jokes aside high speed rail for the Texas triangle is legitimately the perfect place to put it. Clean air conditioned roomy comfortable cheap transport across the Texas triangle is like what we need
Well at least we were the ones to build the train itself right here in california
@@GoAgainstTheOdds You're FAR from being done building.
@@MichaelfromtheGraves Merced to Bakersfield .. yeah, bragging points. And you're lucky if it's done by 2033. That's when they're projecting but they're still almost $100 billion short. Good luck.
As a sales rep that cover the whole state this would make my life so much easier!
I guess if you only cover Dallas and Houston and live in one of those two cities. Hope someone isn’t forced to sell their land to make your life easier.
The global impact on the economy of Texas would be amazing.
We need high speed rail in Texas and throughout the US. Let’s do it better than Japan!!
this is absolutely necessary and would be a massive change for the better in not just texas - but also pushing for the expansion of high speed rail across all of the USA
Wild that one of the most conservative states has a city with a super long light rail network.
Dallas is not a conservative city. Fort Worth is, that's why they don't have a light rail system.
With how many people are flooding to Texas, we need faster travel and high speed trains just make sense
Ya🎉 we need this all over the USA.
Benefiting millions of people, create jobs, reduce emissions and grow the economies even further OR my farm! Tough choice
"Farm" for tax purposes to boot. Not actually producing substantial agriculture.
Nobody is entitled to any economic outcome. Private property is sacred.
@@doujinflip How do you know that?
If the project is so great then why can't they buy the needed land or easement voluntarily? Why do they need to use the government to take the land by force?
@@hans7686 did you see the condition of her property? She grows brown grass and weeds
From San Antonio and high speed rail in Texas is something my friends and I talk about regularly. This should have happened years ago. 35, 45, and 10 + Southwest Airlines can't be the only options for a state with this much growth.
The plane ✈️ tickets are hella expensive too!
As someone who occasionally has to commute to Dallas from Houston, this has been needed for years. It is way too time-consuming and costly to go back and forth for businesses, and people
Please make this happen for all major cities in America🙏🏼
No let’s never make this happen
This is a great way to truly connect the Texas Triangle
As a Canadian, North America is so behind with transportation due to our complete ignorance of high speed rail over the past few decades.
No it's because the country is so much bigger and everything is so much more spread out. It's far easier for other countries to invest in their HSR because they are so much smaller and people can actually experience the benefit of new rail lines put in. It's much harder to ask someone in Edmonton to pay more in taxes just so someone in Montreal doesn't have to drive to Toronto
@@loganleroy8622 You're right about the vastness and distances in the USA and Canada, but plan and realize a high-speed line in densely populated Germany or Japan where it feels like there's a town, a low mountain range or a castle in the way every 5 km. It's all relative my friend. 😉
@@gerhardma4297 It's precisely because Germany and Japan are densely populated that HSR makes more sense. In the US and Canada, everything and everyone is spread out. Driving on wide open flat roads is relaxing, driving through a mountain pass is stressful. Much more likely to convince someone to take a train to the other side of a mountain than to drive there.
@@loganleroy8622 How in the world do the many towns benefit the HSL which passes through them with no station whatsoever?
@@MarioFanGamer659 They don’t.
They can
As a Houstonian and frequent driver to Ft Worth, I’d definitely use the Lone Star Bullet Train. I-45 in desperate need of widening and paving. 2 lanes at the narrowest parts
Time to modernize Texas!
Houston to Dallas in an hour would be insane - I have a ton of friends in Dallas I never get to see bc I hate I-45 N. It feels ridiculous that it takes 3+ hours to get to Dallas from Houston by car.
High-speed rail baby Build the High Speed Rail in TEXAS!
I have lived in Texas my whole life and I don’t know of any major city in Texas where people associate public transport with convenience or safety, especially at night. That is a major reason why Texans prefer cars. If the light rail planners want public support they need to go work on the existing public transport systems in Texas and prove to the public they can be made more efficient and more safe. Until then, I don’t see many average people clamoring to use a train that will begin and end in difficult to navigate cities.
Safety is one thing but the infrastructure is so hard to change. If you notice in Houston, Metro doesn’t even cover all quads efficiently. It’s hard to make routes when the streets within the loops barely leave enough space for more bus routes. If only we can replace the land barriers on the roads with a rail, that would be nice
It’s not the public transportation agencies in Texas that is the issue. It’s the local and state politics of Texas and the public transportation agencies that have to fight TXDOT every step of the way, just to provide basic service. The agencies are trying everything they can, TXDOT and local + state govt just makes it incredibly difficult for anything other than automobile infrastructure to be built in Texas
I live in Houston and take the light rail and busses fairly regularly and many times late at night (after a sporting event downtown, for instance).
The issue that you're referring to is easily solved by actually employing someone (decent job added to the local economy) to check tickets rather than just having metro officers standing around at some of the platforms. The light rail has basically become free to use because nobody ever checks if you have a ticket. This is such an easy fix. But, as with anything public transit related, TxDOT simply doesn't want to fix it. They want the light rail to look dirty and unsafe so that fewer people will be willing to use it... because that's what the lobbyists want.
Despite that, the light rail is completely packed during morning and evening rush hour as well as before and after games (Rockets, Astros, Dynamo, etc.) downtown. Expanding the light rail, especially to the airport and suburbs, would generate a ridiculous amount of use and go a long way toward alleviating the ridiculous traffic congestion we have here. More rail in many US cities, but especially one like Houston is a no-brainer!
True
@@KrishnaAdettiwar no its the agencies.
This video should have done its due diligence in reporting why Texas Central abruptly stopped this project despite winning the supreme court ruling on imminent domain. It was because the estimated costs ballooned to $30B and the estimated ridership by independent analysts was only 1.4M people per year. They greatly over estimated the expected revenue and profits.
Thank you for commenting this
Yes idk why we Texans are mad about this it will be amazing going from dallas to the ocean just for a day trip would be amazing.
I’m a big fan of rail. I’ve ridden the Amtrak California Zephyr for fun. I have made a point to include rail, especially HSR, when I have visited Europe. This is not an opposition to rail.
But if there are so many benefits and demand for intercity trains, where are the private companies looking to develop these lines?
The benefits aren't in ticket sales, they're in the greatly increased quality of life and value of the surrounding areas. When private lines _do_ manage to pop up (Such as Brighline in Florida) they only ever make money by buying up land around the route and selling it once the railroad increases real estate value
@@j-train13 But it's a business and ultimately, ticket sales are the ultimate goal. I don't discount that there are ancillary benefits but those justify billions of taxpayers dollars in a period with we are massively in debt and show little desire to slow that? If we must spend taxpayer dollars for some of these ancillary benefits surely there is a more efficient way of doing so than funding an uneconomic business enterprise. If Brightline can make a business model of private rail, even if part of that is through land purchases and development, then so can others. If that model is viable, there is the path to HSR that is economic and sustainable.
It's borderline impossible for a private company to compete in an industry where their competitors are subsidized at 30 to 70 times the rate they are...
@@chasemartin4450 Then end Amtrak subsidies as well. I was for that long ago.
@@FoCoBuzz As long as we end all subsidy of cars and the oil industry (yes that includes "subsidy" through foreign wars), I'm all for it!
Hope some day this is true. They also don't see the mental health issue that is for drivers to deal with crazy people driving around... Rail is gonna be a game changer for everyone in Texas. Also for the ones who enjoy driving, they will have fewer people on the road.
HSR system is super cool. That’s why us needs it
Too bad Texas is so in love with their freeways and pickups! Backward place… hope they do it!
Like California.
Right. Texas is very backwards. They lead in renewable energy generation. They **almost** built a HSR network using PRIVATE funds, unlike the financial disaster unfolding with California's HSR. The problem is simple. Tokyo metro has a population of about 38M. Osaka metro about 19M. Houston is 7M and Dallas-Fort Worth are 8M. The population density difference between Japan and Texas is staggering. Texas Central's cost estimate to build originally was $10B but that ballooned to $30B in 2023. Additionally, Texas Central overstated the ridership. They estimated 5.9M people per year, but independent analysis showed a maximum of 1.4M. The project was halted because it simply could not meet the revenue and or profits originally quoted. Now you know, bigot.
Typ blind lib
One problem which i find in US cities is lack of public transport for commuting within cities . People would find it affordable to drive rather than paying for HS Rail and Uber for reaching final destination. Asian cities provide last almost last mile / neighbourhood connectivity with Buses and Metros but such thing is lacking in Huston and Dallas within city commuting is Car centric . Boston - New York - DC would be a better choice to start High-speed Railway due to their already existing Metros .
proposed sites in Dallas would connect it to DART but proposed sites in Houston would need to expand the METRO to it. Though any Austin and San Antonio would be anyone’s guess with Austin scaling down their LRT plans and San Antonio not even having any.
I wish we had this already. I live in Houston and go to college in Dallas so I have to make the trip between fairly often. Having a train between would be amazing and save me so much time and money
I wish they would start between San Antonio and Austin. Start small has always been my philosophy.
Starting with the most commuted line is likely the best.
More difficult. Not as many go between the two, there's hills everywhere, has a lot of aquifers and more underneath, would cross multiple major pipelines and the ground is very hard rock and limestone.
The biggest problem with California's HSR is that they only secured about 10% of funding & expected to get funds drip fed to them over time.
That stalls production, increases chances of unforeseen delays dragging things out even further, and increased costs through inflation alone. If they secured most of the funding immediately, they wouldn't have this start/stop production & continuously need to lobby for more money.
And as time goes on, the more annoyed taxpayers become. Every time they go back to that well, you'll have more & more resistance, spend more & more money on lobbying, and by the time you start construction again, prices will have gone up once more.
Did you saw Alan fisher’s video?
@@DanielCoin88 No, does he discuss HSR stuff? If so, I'll check him out
@@corey2232 Yes!
Im so glad the comment section is full of fellow texans that are begging for the railways to get built. When I was a kid I took a train ride up to Dallas and even to this day the route still picks you up at 7:00 a.m. from San Antonio and you don't get to Dallas until 3:00 p.m. You're better off driving then taking the train. Getting back home is equally bad as you have to leave Dallas. I think around 4: 00pm and don't get home till like 10:00 pm. There's also only one train per day that goes from San Antonio to Dallas. So if you miss 7:00 a.m. train you have to wait until the next one or just drive /fly
This is why I didn't take a train a couple of years ago. Was at least six hours to get somewhere.
Just build trains in the middle of every highway system like Brightline West. Imagine how many people would stop driving when they see a train go by them at 150+ mph every day on their way to work!
Not only would it be a top-tier advertisement, but it would also help avoid expensive right-of-way purchases from private landowners.
@@greg.anywhere Agreed, no use arguing with the woman who wants to protect her farm. Just take two lanes away from the cars. There's still 10+ left for them!
But how are we going to build the station?
Do we just put platforms and stairs?
@@SalmanMentosexactly
No elevate the tracks.
This is why Japan is so far ahead of us on high speed rail service. The US has too many bureaucrats and one type of transportation company tries to stagnate another type of transportation company and progress of any kind is halted. We are going to be in the year 3000 and still have the same transportation because nobody will allow the other to progress. This is what is broken in America….Advancement. Too many silly lawsuits and propaganda to citizens. Stagnation.
It might be faster to progress by simply moving to Japan. 😏
Good lord!
There’s a lot of positive things that will come from this type of travel solution.
Hope you succeed! Cheers from Norway!
As someone who lives and commutes in Texas we DESPERATELY NEED RAIL here 😭
A real High-Speed train (not like the one in India) is genuinely convenient! Heard of the Indonesian High-Speed train?
As a native Texan i would love to see a high speed rail between the major cities
Armillio el paso Abilene Lubbock fort worth Dallas austin houston san antonio Texarkana middland/Odessa the whole state a web of tracks would make the lone star state much better in my opinion
Would you rather
A. Drive 3-4 hours (that’s with no traffic) between these cities
B. Arrive 2 hours early for a 1 hour flight, with total travel time (baggage check/pickup, TSA, taxiing, etc.) being around 4-5 hours
Or
C. Take a 90 minute train between Dallas and Houston that you arrive for 15-20 minutes before departure. Get 2 free checked bags (Amtrak’s standard baggage policy), No TSA lines, no forcing you to buy overpriced food and drinks, etc.