I make custom humbucker sized P90s myself. The key to replicate the P90 sound is all about the bobbin height. Anywhere from 1/4" to 3/8" gave me a Strat single coil sound. But since I went thinner to 1/8" to around 1/12" of coil height, I think I nailed it. 6,000 to 8,000 wounds is just about right but any more than that, you'll end up with bassy, woofy pickups. 5,000 has given me clean, clear pickups and really thrashes when connected to an overdrive or fuzz pedal. It really gets musical and not overwhelmingly muddy. Sometimes, I think the Parson St. legend about 10,000 wounds is a myth to keep others from the true formula.
I always wanted the closest pickup that sound as close as possible to the p90 like the bite and clean up and dynamic sound and everything about them but everytime i ask people they tell me to get lollars or other very expensive ones which are out of my budget. I was asking if you can give away one for me Or a budget price would be appreciated. Thanks.
I think this answers the first question I had while watching the video, which was: if the difference between the two is the dimensions and their effect on the number of winds, couldn't the dimensions be altered to accommodate additional winds? If I (having just a basic knowledge of pickup construction) thought of it, I'm sure someone makes them.
Put Bare Knuckle Blue Notes humbucker sized P90s in my SG. I will never. Again. Use. Humbuckers. The Blue Notes are just glorious and I don't give a damn if they're a "real" P90. Low output, excellent clarity and pick response. I found MY sound and am done chasing THAT sound, if that makes sense. Good info on how the pickups are constructed!
I have some of the humbucker size. They were listed as P-94s and I was actually able to look up the difference between a P-90 and a P-94, but I guess P-94 never caught on.
I actually like the idea that it would have less winding and clean up. Neck pickups are hard to find that I like and I bet that humbucker size P90 would make me happy... I like my Full Shred in Parallel everywhere but that Guitar sounds good.
I have Rio Grande Bastard humbucker size P90s in my HH strat. They really growl, I play heavy stuff but I'm a weirdo that puts up with noise because I like super hot single coils with low tunings. I haven't actually played a real P90, but I can confirm that humbucker size P90s are closer to a real P90 than they are to any other pickup. They don't sound like humbuckers or normal single coils, they are super loud and dynamic, with the kind of mids that break up the cleanest amps beautifully. And they retain definition with a boosted high gain amp like nothing else I've played. I mainly use them with a clean boost, as the mids are so extreme that a tube screamer style boost is too much mids.
oh man, that's exactly the way i felt. i have had p90 pickups before and i thought they would be great for the neck pickup in my humbucker-routed semi-hollow (with a vintage-y humbucker bridge pickup). installed a humbucker-sized p90 of my favorite brand. did not like it one bit. i thought it sounded just like a single-coil, wich was not what i needed. so i switched it for a gibson 57 and i am now happy. you got great gritty tones out of it. but it really sounds like a strat. mine kind of did too. will make somebody really happy, i will sell it. cause the tone is nice. just not what i wanted.
I'm working on a Warmoth build Strat routed for humbuckers. Should i be concerned about Gibson 50mm vs Fender 54mm string spacing with your humbucker sized P90s?
Hey Dylan! I'm curious how a noiseless soapbar p90 (eg. Seymour Duncan P90 Stack) would fit in these comparisons. Thanks again for all of your great videos and expertise!
I have a question for these P90s. If I remove 4 poles and replace it with plastic ones, will the pickup just absorb the tone from the strings relative to the remaining 2 poles? Thanks in advance for the answer. :)
Dylan, you’re P-90’s are really That cool? I ask because I have a Gretsch 2622 With two 90’s. I like it a lot, and while I’m not big on changing pups until I’ve exhausted all other avenues, I have considered giving some “high end” pups a try. Love yours vids, dude!
I’ve just measured the resistance of the three sets of P90s I have. Kit 1 a thin line tele, both about 7.1 K / kit 2 Harley Benton Jazzmaster style 9.6K / Gotoh P90 6.1 K yes I know what Dylan says about resistance / impedance / tone.
Do you still make the humbucker size P90? That link above goes to a blank page. I do see on your website The Enduro Humbucker Sized Single Coil. Is that the same thing, just what you’re calling them now?
I'm thinking a humbucker sized rail "p90". A thin rail piece could get a couple hundred more windings? One could have a slightly trapezoid rail or other geometry to get more windings? I'm gonna try it. I've got a cheep sewing machine but the foot controller has to hard of a start. I'm going to try a step-down transformer to see if it helps. I hate buying stuff and prefer to find what I need laying around. It is more Zen.
Has anyone ever tried putting two P90 pickups together to make a humbucking p90? Would this even work? It would be an interesting experiment if it does work.
Could you make a P90 type pickup with individual pole piece magnets like a strat single coil? Basically like a fat ass single coil? What would happen? The world needs to know!
No they are not the best ,The humbucker sized single coil or p 94 Has more snap and brighter when used with over drive ,and more clear clean and a little less power wich makes them more tele like .But they got that cool snarl great for rock a billy style ,use 022 cap
If the problem is the size of the bobin, why dont you do diagonal polepieces. I know it would look slanted but the full coil would be there. You can pay me 10 bucks for every slanted p90 you sell. 🤣
It sux this guitar is to be won in America only, ahhh well, I would have won it anyway but it would have been nice to think we had a chance, did you give away the Jackson V yet?
Tonerider has figured it out ,I have two fender telecaster one a humbucker p90 the other a true p90 both in the neck, absolutely no difference in tone what so ever
@@gabewilliams7462 Mad? What am I mad about? I'm certainly not mad something some guy on the internet says or a product someone makes that I have never used. If anything, I appreciate the honesty. I really do. But I'm just being honest in return. If I wanted something to sound like a P90, and the maker says it doesn't sound like that, then I'm certainly not going to go for it. What I get from this video is that it is impossible to get that sound from a humbucker sized P90. Fair enough- so I won't try.
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I make custom humbucker sized P90s myself. The key to replicate the P90 sound is all about the bobbin height. Anywhere from 1/4" to 3/8" gave me a Strat single coil sound. But since I went thinner to 1/8" to around 1/12" of coil height, I think I nailed it.
6,000 to 8,000 wounds is just about right but any more than that, you'll end up with bassy, woofy pickups. 5,000 has given me clean, clear pickups and really thrashes when connected to an overdrive or fuzz pedal. It really gets musical and not overwhelmingly muddy.
Sometimes, I think the Parson St. legend about 10,000 wounds is a myth to keep others from the true formula.
I always wanted the closest pickup that sound as close as possible to the p90 like the bite and clean up and dynamic sound and everything about them but everytime i ask people they tell me to get lollars or other very expensive ones which are out of my budget. I was asking if you can give away one for me Or a budget price would be appreciated.
Thanks.
I think this answers the first question I had while watching the video, which was: if the difference between the two is the dimensions and their effect on the number of winds, couldn't the dimensions be altered to accommodate additional winds? If I (having just a basic knowledge of pickup construction) thought of it, I'm sure someone makes them.
Love humbucker sized p90s! So nice to be able to drop them in a normal pickguard or pickup ring without routing a special cavity.
Put Bare Knuckle Blue Notes humbucker sized P90s in my SG. I will never. Again. Use. Humbuckers. The Blue Notes are just glorious and I don't give a damn if they're a "real" P90. Low output, excellent clarity and pick response. I found MY sound and am done chasing THAT sound, if that makes sense. Good info on how the pickups are constructed!
Dylan is not lying. His soapbar/dog ear P90's are fantastic.
I swapped out my 57 classics from my ES-335 for Lindy Fralin Modern PAF (bridge) and his humbucker sized P90 (neck). Best setup I've had in a guitar.
I have some of the humbucker size. They were listed as P-94s and I was actually able to look up the difference between a P-90 and a P-94, but I guess P-94 never caught on.
ive never heard a p90 that sounds so clean! amazing.
Thanks for the education on P90's. Been looking for a P90 guitar next to add to the library. Thought about converting something too.
The humbucker size p90 has a great sound in its own right, I find your videos really informative, thanks mate!! 👍👍
I've got a Belman guitar that has single coil pickups wound on a P90 bobbin. Beautiful, smooth, rounded tone compared to a regular single coil.
I actually like the idea that it would have less winding and clean up. Neck pickups are hard to find that I like and I bet that humbucker size P90 would make me happy... I like my Full Shred in Parallel everywhere but that Guitar sounds good.
I have Rio Grande Bastard humbucker size P90s in my HH strat. They really growl, I play heavy stuff but I'm a weirdo that puts up with noise because I like super hot single coils with low tunings. I haven't actually played a real P90, but I can confirm that humbucker size P90s are closer to a real P90 than they are to any other pickup. They don't sound like humbuckers or normal single coils, they are super loud and dynamic, with the kind of mids that break up the cleanest amps beautifully. And they retain definition with a boosted high gain amp like nothing else I've played. I mainly use them with a clean boost, as the mids are so extreme that a tube screamer style boost is too much mids.
that pick up sounds great.
Had to check from beginning , wasn't notified before hand and only after post had started. Informative!
Wow 39.500! So close to 40k!
oh man, that's exactly the way i felt. i have had p90 pickups before and i thought they would be great for the neck pickup in my humbucker-routed semi-hollow (with a vintage-y humbucker bridge pickup). installed a humbucker-sized p90 of my favorite brand. did not like it one bit. i thought it sounded just like a single-coil, wich was not what i needed. so i switched it for a gibson 57 and i am now happy. you got great gritty tones out of it. but it really sounds like a strat. mine kind of did too. will make somebody really happy, i will sell it. cause the tone is nice. just not what i wanted.
I'm working on a Warmoth build Strat routed for humbuckers. Should i be concerned about Gibson 50mm vs Fender 54mm string spacing with your humbucker sized P90s?
I'm learning a lot on your channel
Hey Dylan! I'm curious how a noiseless soapbar p90 (eg. Seymour Duncan P90 Stack) would fit in these comparisons. Thanks again for all of your great videos and expertise!
Lately I’ve seen them advertising this P 94s
Sounds great to my ears...
Terrific - very impressive.
If you haven't done it already, I'd love to see a comparison of the P90 Humbucker vs the DAF Humbucker.
Those pups sound great
you have 66.6 thousand subs, how rock n roll of you
Thanks for the video!
Love your content! Thanks for making these videos 👍🏼
Some great sounding pickups you wound up there Dylan gonna check out your p90 inspired tele pickup
Great sound from the faux P90.
If I was the winner, I'd pay shipping charges for it to reach me in Australia!
You should put wiring diagrams on the website for the different pickups you sell!!!
we did it after our conversation! Thanks for helping us be better!
Great tone. Thank you.
It's a p94! And they sound great as a bridge pickup.
I have a question for these P90s. If I remove 4 poles and replace it with plastic ones, will the pickup just absorb the tone from the strings relative to the remaining 2 poles? Thanks in advance for the answer. :)
Dylan, you’re P-90’s are really That cool?
I ask because I have a Gretsch 2622 With two 90’s.
I like it a lot, and while I’m not big on changing pups until I’ve exhausted all other avenues, I have considered giving some “high end” pups a try.
Love yours vids, dude!
This is good! I wanted one
So humbucker seizes will be brighter . Can then something like an alnico 2 even that out? Or can a different gauge wire make it sound a smidge darker?
I’ve just measured the resistance of the three sets of P90s I have. Kit 1 a thin line tele, both about 7.1 K / kit 2 Harley Benton Jazzmaster style 9.6K / Gotoh P90 6.1 K yes I know what Dylan says about resistance / impedance / tone.
That sounded great. You need to stop making me want more gear.
Hey Dylan, great video. What size pots do those humbucker size p90s use?
what about those Dimarzios? There are some that are P-90s with a big humbucker cover on top. I'd imagine those sound 100% like a P90.
P90's are still wider in design.
Do you still make the humbucker size P90? That link above goes to a blank page.
I do see on your website The Enduro Humbucker Sized Single Coil.
Is that the same thing, just what you’re calling them now?
Amaizing tone!!!
Great video. I need to get a P90 guitar!
I have an ES195 with HB shaped P90s and I concur that they sound more “strat” than “LP Junior”.
I'm thinking a humbucker sized rail "p90". A thin rail piece could get a couple hundred more windings? One could have a slightly trapezoid rail or other geometry to get more windings? I'm gonna try it. I've got a cheep sewing machine but the foot controller has to hard of a start. I'm going to try a step-down transformer to see if it helps. I hate buying stuff and prefer to find what I need laying around. It is more Zen.
Cool video Dylan! What do you think about the noiseless Railhammer P90s. Their also humbucker sized but with a different type of construction
How about angling the pole peices diagonally like a tele? Might give a little more room for the coil and might be more P90 like.
Is it possible to get a set of Humbucker p90’s wound more like a Jazzmaster pickup?
great info
How do you enter the one to Guitar?
Has anyone ever tried putting two P90 pickups together to make a humbucking p90? Would this even work? It would be an interesting experiment if it does work.
It would be massive and very very dark.
Now, I'm wondering if I should put a P90 on my Firefly FFTH Tele copy.
Did u say Stratsize P90? I need THAT in my bridge. When’s the P90 comparison vid of soapbar vs teleP90 vs stratP90?
Does the telecaster P-90 have the same metal baseplate as a regular telecaster bridge? That’s looks cool as hell!
No it does not
@@DylanTalksTone Roger that. Hope to see a video on that pickup in the future!
Do you make pickups? I’m trying to figure out what your focus is besides making the great videos and playing some good guitar
Yes, Dylan makes pickups
So the tele/strat «p90’s» are literally just gonna be a brighter sounding p90? I wouldnt say thats necesarily bad, but rather cool
So, basically HB sized P-90 is under-wound regular P-90?
Isn't there also a P100 that is a "humbucker" P90? I don't remember where I saw those...
Could you make a P90 type pickup with individual pole piece magnets like a strat single coil? Basically like a fat ass single coil? What would happen? The world needs to know!
Then Make the coil taller. It still won't be identical but closer.
Then it wouldn’t be a P90… the sound would TOTALLY change. It would sound more strat
@@DylanTalksTone How about 43 coil wire?
So very glad you've decided to do this comparison.
Thank You.
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I like the fact that it's not exactly a p90. If you want a p90 you get a p90.
That would be the perfect guitar for my jazz rendition of "Du Hast".
Is there such a thing as an Alnico VIII P90?
I want to win that guitar!
No they are not the best ,The humbucker sized single coil or p 94 Has more snap and brighter when used with over drive ,and more clear clean and a little less power wich makes them more tele like .But they got that cool snarl great for rock a billy style ,use 022 cap
is there such a thing as a p90 humbucker?
Woah cant waig
Make a video about p90 sized humbuckers please
Wouldn't the humbucker-sized pickup be called a P94?
The difference is negligible. Watch Phil McKnights video.
If the problem is the size of the bobin, why dont you do diagonal polepieces. I know it would look slanted but the full coil would be there. You can pay me 10 bucks for every slanted p90 you sell. 🤣
Just make them taller
It sux this guitar is to be won in America only, ahhh well, I would have won it anyway but it would have been nice to think we had a chance, did you give away the Jackson V yet?
Tonerider has figured it out ,I have two fender telecaster one a humbucker p90 the other a true p90 both in the neck, absolutely no difference in tone what so ever
Lol. Maybe. 8.4 k on a humbucker sized p90 means 43 or 44 gauge wire. I’m not a fan.
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“It doesn’t sound anything like a P90.” Your own quote, so therefore, I wouldn’t buy this from you.
Your comment tells me that you didn't understand anything about the video, and you just want something to be mad about lmao
@@gabewilliams7462 Mad? What am I mad about? I'm certainly not mad something some guy on the internet says or a product someone makes that I have never used. If anything, I appreciate the honesty. I really do. But I'm just being honest in return. If I wanted something to sound like a P90, and the maker says it doesn't sound like that, then I'm certainly not going to go for it. What I get from this video is that it is impossible to get that sound from a humbucker sized P90. Fair enough- so I won't try.