That's what I have heard.. I don't know what better.. seeing if they come loose or being safe.. in guessing you still can see if they're loose on passenger side
@@lx93racer Me too. People are still moving quickly, on the brakes, and looking to make a turn at the end of the ramp, so I'd rather be standing on the ditch side.
In this case , you could be standing on the trailer deck when tightening down, out of the way of traffic, remember PPE , no matter where you are Yellow vest or shirt, !
For coils in a covered wagon, I leave the handle up. That way I can visually check securement without climbing on the deck. If the securement is still tight, the handle will be in the air, if it has loosened up, the handle will be on the deck.
Very good, I always put the ratchet on the other side though because if I have to pull over the idea is I can do most/all of the adjusting out of the roadway. Depending on the load you can usually tell its loose by looking at either side, but its true, not always.
Great video!! Exactly how I would chain that. The only difference is that I would use a rubber tarp strap to secure the excess chain to keep it from bouncing around. Other than that, solid video!!
Just curious, does the top of that binder hook not damage the load during transit? I thought I had seen a load like this with some kind of fabric around the part that touches the load?
I would, but I ‘over-secure’ everything I haul. (As if it’s possible to be too secure) Also, my company requires us to secure to 100% of the cargo weight. So for me, that would mean 4 chains/binders. (Yes, I know DOT only requires securement to half the weight of the load)
Shouldn't you put edge protectors on your load. I just got out of CDL A School. And am considering flat bed. Do you have any suggestions for a starter company at 61. I applied at McElroy. And Costal Carriers. I'm trying.to stay away from the ones they recommended to in school.
I would not have put the chains straight over. With the protruding locating pins on the counterweight It would be better to put an about 15 to 30 degree angle in the chains pulling agains the pin, one pulling forward and one pulling back.That way you not only relying on friction but positive engagement. Would need to make sure the locating pins cone shape provided the required positive lock though.
Yes indeed. I could say a lot about how this video since it’s a teaching video. At least chunk that binder in a teaching of all places to showcase a unsecure load ticket is what you can get with a binder with a bin handle is no good. Also, you could drop down pull it back through and hook the pocket. You should have some angle to the front and some to the back. You never put a chain through anything that goes through special crane parts you missed a plethora of things that should’ve been covered if you talk about chaining in an informational video.
And also, I go on and on and on about things you did not cover a ratchet binder for example, in Texas, they can burn you and give you an unsecure load ticket. If you don’t have at least 1 inch of threads left when it’s tight, you should always hook on side it does not have the weld, not trying to be disrespectful at all just trying to say that there are so many more aspects of it that evidently you do not know and neither does a big percentage of the drivers on the road today. And by the way, I’ve been doing this for 31 years and I do heavy haul many different set ups jeeps stingers hydraulic trailers, manual trailers, anything from transformers to cranes, new cranes and old-school friction cranes not trying to boast. I don’t need recognition just trying to make a point that if you’re gonna make a video to teach people to do something cover all the bases. For example, you cannot have two forms of security that touch you have to put softeners between them in certain states so they were bust you. Anyway, not trying to be an ass just pointing out the lack of information and informational video from somebody that has been around for a long time that still learns every day that’s what wisdom is made of good day, sir.
I recently purchased ratchets with folding handle with a tab & hole for putting a padlock on it. Asswipes have been fucking with securement at the truck stops. In some cases pulling the lockpin on the fith wheel. See youtube videos. Moving the glands hand enough to lose air pressure. You have to check everything, every time you are away, when you return. Putting a tab with a hole on the fifth wheel to lock the lockpin. No one has pulled my lockpin. Seen numerous youtube videos though. Have had my glad hands fucked with, straps cut, chain binder pulled. I have no idea why. Not common, but has happened a few times over the years. Industry has hired way to many ex-cons. People who should not be driving in the first place. Who have seroius behavioral issues. Apparently some of them get shits & giggles. Putting peoples lives in danger. Keep the cameras, front, rear, sides, runing in parking mode. To pickup & record movement near your truck. Always do a walk around before moving. Flatbed & Dropdeck, securement check per regulations first 50 miles, then every 150 miles or three hours. Stay Safe CYA!
a twist in a strap does not lose it's strength unless you're just stupid and have it twisted so much it looks like a rope instead. its been tested and proven.
You know there’s more people that tie down their load wrong then the ones that know and learned properly? I got Guys at work that get those chains when they doing counterweights and rap them around like they trying to tie down their sneakers 👟 lol and you can’t tell them Otherwise cause they have another 20 who do the same….these are the same Dudes that burn 🔥 themselves out with the amount of effort they waste securing a load….simple straight line to the next connection point end of story! Lol
Dont listen to this guy! The load capacity of each binder is different. A 5/16-3/8 binder has a lower Working load limit than a 3/8-1/2. I work in the rigging industry. I sell binders and chains for a living.
He has enough for weight: 19,000 lb load divided in half would be about 10,000 lbs of securement. 2 chain/binders meets the MINIMUM. Pretty sure that counter weight was over 10 feet long though.
The load is located on 4x4’s .Secure chain to driver’s side of trailer and push chain under load to curb side back top of load to driver’s side ,secure with binder . Move to curb side of trailer ,secure chain to trailer push chain under load to driver’s side back over top of load to curb ,secure with binder .This is done 4 times total .You than have 2 chains pulling load to driver’s side and 2 chains pulling load to the curb side .I hope this is clear.. The chaining in the video represents an indirect tie -down .
where are you hooking the end of the binder thats closest to the trailer edge to? are you connecting it to the chain loop or right before the loop. Its hard to tell in video. Thanks
Right to the point and not 20 minutes of needless BS. Good job
Thanks for the tips
I put the binders on the passenger side. That way if I have to pull over and re-tension on the side of the road I’m not standing in traffic.
That's what I have heard.. I don't know what better.. seeing if they come loose or being safe.. in guessing you still can see if they're loose on passenger side
I try to pull off the highway on a exit/entry ramp to snug them when needed
@@lx93racer Me too. People are still moving quickly, on the brakes, and looking to make a turn at the end of the ramp, so I'd rather be standing on the ditch side.
In this case , you could be standing on the trailer deck when tightening down, out of the way of traffic, remember PPE , no matter where you are Yellow vest or shirt, !
Just picked up a load that needed to be chained and I had no idea how to do it. Thank you sir
For coils in a covered wagon, I leave the handle up. That way I can visually check securement without climbing on the deck. If the securement is still tight, the handle will be in the air, if it has loosened up, the handle will be on the deck.
great tip
Solid video man. I apply the same method when chaining. I trust it with my life. Great video man. Driver to driver. Be safe on the roads always man.
That's the proper way to do it.
To use them from the trailer to the load causes the " internal" threads" to get worn out then they are junk
Great video and gives simple instructions not hard to comprehend.
Thank you sir .. The Best Step By Step Video On Here
Thank you sir that's exactly what I'm going to be loading at my job for the crane
Such a great video. Thank you for this. Watching this video has helped me use the chains correctly. It’s my second week and I wasn’t probably trained.
How's week four?
Good luck…… so many coworkers who dont know or wont tell you the tricks cuase they dontknow how to teach
I don't have CDL buy l learned more than watching the other guys . Do one on tarping .
Outstanding video!!!!! Bottom line up front and no BS!!!!!
How about using a bungee on the slack part of the chains so you don't have to worry about them unraveling and flapping around?
Baling wire works good too.
Very good, I always put the ratchet on the other side though because if I have to pull over the idea is I can do most/all of the adjusting out of the roadway.
Depending on the load you can usually tell its loose by looking at either side, but its true, not always.
How do you release the crank after turning it all the way over?
Did you get it?
Couldn't see where exactly you hooked the ratchet binder on the chain on the bottom side of ratchet binder.
Great video!! Exactly how I would chain that. The only difference is that I would use a rubber tarp strap to secure the excess chain to keep it from bouncing around. Other than that, solid video!!
1/2 twist in strap does not make it weak. Proven on Mythe Busters
Thanks I learned something 😌 ☺️ 🙂 😊 😏 🤗
Thanks for the tips amigo
Great job sir
If you put the binder on top of the load so its in the middle of the chain, it will never come loose.
Thanks
Great video thank you so much for this!!!
Thank you
You can use the binder to the trailer eyelid with something that close too
Good vid pall. Cheers, uk
You should of talked about keeping your binders oiled makes a big difference but nice work on the vid
I want to get into trucking. Think it would be a good go.
Good job brother 💪
Just curious, does the top of that binder hook not damage the load during transit? I thought I had seen a load like this with some kind of fabric around the part that touches the load?
Great video
I was told front and rear cross chains should be used on metal slabs?
I would, but I ‘over-secure’ everything I haul. (As if it’s possible to be too secure)
Also, my company requires us to secure to 100% of the cargo weight. So for me, that would mean 4 chains/binders.
(Yes, I know DOT only requires securement to half the weight of the load)
Thanks man
Shouldn't you put edge protectors on your load. I just got out of CDL A School. And am considering flat bed. Do you have any suggestions for a starter company at 61. I applied at McElroy. And Costal Carriers. I'm trying.to stay away from the ones they recommended to in school.
Thanks mate. ✌️
Good video
Thank you 😊 good job 👍🏻
I would not have put the chains straight over.
With the protruding locating pins on the counterweight It would be better to put an about 15 to 30 degree angle in the chains pulling agains the pin, one pulling forward and one pulling back.That way you not only relying on friction but positive engagement.
Would need to make sure the locating pins cone shape provided the required positive lock though.
Okay, good for you.
What about painted beams? A chain wouldn't stop them from moving forward and the chains would damage the paint.
Corner protectors for chains, or use something to dampen the chain
I hope this helps
Yes indeed. I could say a lot about how this video since it’s a teaching video. At least chunk that binder in a teaching of all places to showcase a unsecure load ticket is what you can get with a binder with a bin handle is no good. Also, you could drop down pull it back through and hook the pocket. You should have some angle to the front and some to the back. You never put a chain through anything that goes through special crane parts you missed a plethora of things that should’ve been covered if you talk about chaining in an informational video.
And also, I go on and on and on about things you did not cover a ratchet binder for example, in Texas, they can burn you and give you an unsecure load ticket. If you don’t have at least 1 inch of threads left when it’s tight, you should always hook on side it does not have the weld, not trying to be disrespectful at all just trying to say that there are so many more aspects of it that evidently you do not know and neither does a big percentage of the drivers on the road today. And by the way, I’ve been doing this for 31 years and I do heavy haul many different set ups jeeps stingers hydraulic trailers, manual trailers, anything from transformers to cranes, new cranes and old-school friction cranes not trying to boast. I don’t need recognition just trying to make a point that if you’re gonna make a video to teach people to do something cover all the bases. For example, you cannot have two forms of security that touch you have to put softeners between them in certain states so they were bust you. Anyway, not trying to be an ass just pointing out the lack of information and informational video from somebody that has been around for a long time that still learns every day that’s what wisdom is made of good day, sir.
Yesssir
I recently purchased ratchets with folding handle with a tab & hole for putting a padlock on it. Asswipes have been fucking with securement at the truck stops. In some cases pulling the lockpin on the fith wheel. See youtube videos. Moving the glands hand enough to lose air pressure.
You have to check everything, every time you are away, when you return.
Putting a tab with a hole on the fifth wheel to lock the lockpin. No one has pulled my lockpin. Seen numerous youtube videos though.
Have had my glad hands fucked with, straps cut, chain binder pulled. I have no idea why. Not common, but has happened a few times over the years.
Industry has hired way to many ex-cons. People who should not be driving in the first place. Who have seroius behavioral issues. Apparently some of them get shits & giggles. Putting peoples lives in danger.
Keep the cameras, front, rear, sides, runing in parking mode. To pickup & record movement near your truck.
Always do a walk around before moving. Flatbed & Dropdeck, securement check per regulations first 50 miles, then every 150 miles or three hours.
Stay Safe CYA!
Ok
a twist in a strap does not lose it's strength unless you're just stupid and have it twisted so much it looks like a rope instead. its been tested and proven.
You know there’s more people that tie down their load wrong then the ones that know and learned properly? I got
Guys at work that get those chains when they doing counterweights and rap them around like they trying to tie down their sneakers 👟 lol and you can’t tell them
Otherwise cause they have another 20 who do the same….these are the same Dudes that burn 🔥 themselves out with the amount of effort they waste securing a load….simple straight line to the next connection point end of story! Lol
Dont listen to this guy! The load capacity of each binder is different. A 5/16-3/8 binder has a lower Working load limit than a 3/8-1/2. I work in the rigging industry. I sell binders and chains for a living.
A strap with a California twist isnt weaker than a strap without one, so that's a lie.
It needs 3 chains
You need 3 chains for that load to be legal
I guess we are the only ones who caught that
1 st dot check you will be put out of service for lack of secure ent. Read the law
I would have used 4 chains. I believe they are rated at 6k each so yea he's not close to the almost 20k load
@@jesusmartinez4919 who gives a fuck dickhead🤣😂🤪😁
Loads that don’t roll require 50% wll. Go read your safety regs book.
The loads requires three chains. It isn't about the amount of weight, it's the amount of securement.
He has enough for weight: 19,000 lb load divided in half would be about 10,000 lbs of securement. 2 chain/binders meets the MINIMUM. Pretty sure that counter weight was over 10 feet long though.
I’ll never understand how anybody can understand the imperial system. It just doesn’t make any sense at all but good video nonetheless
Direct tie-down better.
How’s he going to use a direct tie down on that?
The load is located on 4x4’s .Secure chain to driver’s side of trailer and push chain under load to curb side back top of load to driver’s side ,secure with binder . Move to curb side of trailer ,secure chain to trailer push chain under load to driver’s side back over top of load to curb ,secure with binder .This is done 4 times total .You than have 2 chains pulling load to driver’s side and 2 chains pulling load to the curb side .I hope this is clear.. The chaining in the video represents an indirect tie -down .
Consider a snap binder for a load like this. You should carry both to be properly prepared.
Thank you
where are you hooking the end of the binder thats closest to the trailer edge to? are you connecting it to the chain loop or right before the loop. Its hard to tell in video. Thanks