Considering this guy made a TH-cam channel just to give an accurate and honest review of a single product is enough for me to go with Diamondback Covers.
it goes without says THANK YOU for this review! You have saved many of us $3k plus lots of aggravation. I really hope Renegade sees this review and realizes the power of social media and the implications of poor communications and poor quality! if not they will not be around long!!!!
Rick - thanks for sharing your review of the Renegade cover. Don't mean to hijack your experience, but wanted to share mine here since you have a good audience. I bought mine in April 2021 after weeks of research and comparisons with the DiamondBack. In fact, I hadn't heard of Renegade until I started researching the DiamondBack! Like you, it took a while to get it; close to 4 months or more at the time. I have noticed an improvement in communications since then, but it wasn't hard to improve from dismal. Like you, I received the wrong hardware (2017+ Ford bracket for a 2013 Super Duty). They were quick to resolve that. Since using the cover for almost a year, I can tell you that it has not held up to half of the marketed use-cases; it often goes out of alignment after running on gravel roads, not to mention "overlanding". Just this weekend, after camping and running it in it's folded state, the middle panel came out of alignment and it no longer will close properly. It has gotten to the point of worrying if the cover is going to fail me out in the field by not opening or closing properly when I need it. To say I've been disappointed is an understatement. So, you're not alone in your assessment and I caution others who might be on the fence to really do the best research they can on the options available to them. I'll be reaching out to Renegade first thing tomorrow, also, and hope to find an alternative rather than sending it to the recyclers.
Please continue to update us. It seems like such a great idea - don’t need any more keys, can be easily be removed, super secure vs breakins… wish the execution bore out without maintenance for those of us who want a set it and forget it solution
Have you found the issues wrong with the diamondbackhd? I don't care about the leaks around the sides weather stripping can fix that and just have more weight on top when you install it.
@@---tx9xx To follow up on this... Renegade returned my calls and gave me some advice on shifting the panels back into place. After describing another issue with the torsion bar (for dual latch operation), they sent out some aluminum shims to help get the rails sitting properly to actually engage the gears. However, I find it much easier to simply pull the handle on both sides rather than deal with a torsion bar that may not work 100% of the time. Fast forward to now... I find myself cursing every time I use the bed of the truck, as more often than not one rail has fallen out of alignment and the pins get stuck, or the rod within the rail that engages the pin (to secure it) is bent in such a way that I can no longer lock that side without bending it back into place. Closing the lids too hard might result in the rails falling out of alignment and creating issues down the road. I'm hesitant to put any sort of load on top (even if it's secured), as the cover could accidentally be disengaged on any one or more corners due to the issues mentioned earlier, which could compromise its ability to stay in place with a load on top. One turn and the laws of physics could cause the cover to come off and the load with it. These are all issues that shouldn't really be issues given the price. To be honest, I think the steel bed (2013 F-350) is problematic given the lack of good mounting points for the rails. The new body style F-150 and Super Duty's are probably better off in that regard. I really dig the looks of the cover and its potential, but I'd be lying if I didn't say I should've gone with the DiamondBack.
This is extremely helpful! Waiting 6 month and paying $3k for a leaking bed cover is nuts. I love the look and everything over Diamondback but it needs to not leak. Thanks for posting.
Rick, thank you so much for your honest review. I too am deciding between the Diamondback and the Renegade. I was leaning toward the Renegade because I really want a tri-fold, but I can't take the chance of having leaks and no customer service to resolve issues. I'm sorry this happened to you. Thanks again.
I don’t own a renegade, but do own a Diamondback. I have owned the DB cover for only 16 months, but the cover is superb. I have not had any leaks and is solidly built. There’s a reason the DB has a good following and many repeat customers. Highly recommend the DB 😉👍
RICK, We all thank you for your refreshing candor. Not the greatest video audio and visual, but honest. I loved it, and you saved me $3000. I thank you for the outstanding information.
Good review. Honest and to the point. I was on the cuff of buying one and will be going with the Diamondback. Sorry you had all the problems, you took one for the team. Thank you.
Thank you for the review Rick! I was contemplating the renegade vs. diamondback (which I own on another vehicle) for my new truck and your review convinced me to go with diamondback. Doesn't look as nice but it's both waterproof and has excellent customer service.
I've been researching this cover for a week now. Awesome cover. But $2800 plus $500 freight total $3300 throw in 25 weeks minimum lead time and it's a deal breaker for me. I wash my hands and seal it's fate with this video. Thanks Rick Dailey. Next stop Diamondback.🤜🤛
Thank you! I really wanted a renegade but was worried about the wait time and lack of info not made by the company! You saved me time and money from buying Renegade junk! Thank you again!
the fact that you havent posted a youtube video before is EXACTLY the reason i trust what ever your about to say. thanks for posting ill watch the video now lol
Wowwwww. !!!!!!!!!!! I love the look of renegade over diamond back,I'm a contractor, and need it for day in day heavy use I'm thourly disappointed, I love the lower profile of renegade, so now I'm not sure what to do, I definitely can't have water get in on valuable tools Thank you very much for your review
this design is so appealing but if it's not watertight, it rains so heavy here and i need watertight i dunno if the new diamondback trifold is like that
Man I can feel your pain brother. I found your video because like you said there is nothing out there that wasn't put out by Renegade. I was thinking this was a better option than a Diamondback, but not anymore. The build/lead time was terrible. The leaking is unacceptable. Baffling. The customer service is terrible. I hate it for you, but thanks for saving some of us some pain.
Finally got a response from Trent at renegade. He admitted they really screwed up with me. He offered to exchange for a new one and would take 4 weeks. They said the only other thing they could do was give me an accessory of my choice, but no discount. I said no thanks, just refund my money. Ordered a diamondback today.
Thank you for the honesty of your highly disappointing experience. I am currently researching what I want for my '19 Duramax and have now ruled out the Renegade. It's truly unfortunate that companies like this have lost their integrity and treat their consumers so poorly. I just want to express my gratitude for you taking the time to help others avoid the frustration you have been through. I tend to loose my bananas when I hear about this kind of stuff and as a woman who LOVES her truck(s), I have an Avalanche as well...which is why I'm looking for a tonneau cover to begin with, it seems like I am at a slight disadvantage when I talk to distributors about what I specifically want. Thank you again and I hope you reported them to the Better Business Bureau.
Thanks for the review! Like most other people here I was trying to decide between Diamondback and Renegade. I had already decided to go with Diamondback before seeing your review because of other reviews I read. Your review just reinforced that fact. I also really wanted to love this cover. I'm only glad that I was able to find out that I wouldn't love it before I dropped $3k+ on it.
Thanks for honest review! Thanks for putting this review out. There were next to nothing reviews out there wheni first looked at this cover. And like you, the cover has some nice features over the daimond back. Can handle more loadss, no exposed hinges or cleats. But they wanted $550 to ship it including 30+ weeks of wait so...I like yeah no thanks. There was a lot of red flags so I just went with the tried and true diamondback. Probably somebody is building this out of their garage.
That’s the problem with some companies who think they have a great product they get an attitude and have poor customer service. Thanks for the review I definitely have change my mind about this cover I don’t need to put weight on top of it that bad
Thank you for taking the time to give a honest review, I want this cover for my truck but have held off because off the price and no reviews outside of the marketing propaganda. Quality defects and stuff happen, especially for small start up companies, but considering the price of this cover, Renegade should be doing about this
I was in a similar situation, debating between renegade and diamondback. After dealing with the poor communication and customer service with renegade, as well as no customer review any where in the internet, I decided to go with Diamond back for my 2022 tundra. I just felt uncomfortable going with renegade, even the company address seemed off, seemed like a mom and pops shop. Diamond back company, service, and product is freaking awesome. I was stuck in a hurricane in Florida. Not one drop of water in my bed, could not believe it. Diamond back product and customer service hands down
I ended up with the diamondback and really like it. Wish things would have went better with renegade, but I have no regrets with diamondback. The company was awesome to deal with and I received the cover in less than 2 weeks.
I just wish the diamondback was a no key needed option like the renegade. I'm not sure why they were being advantage to having a separate like when it could be designed to just like with your tailgate. Also the flat top obviously it's an attractive option.
I waited 8 months for my Renegade cover and finally gave up and asked for a refund. So disappointed, but now I think I may have dodged a bullet. It is a lot of money for a cover that leaks. I'm getting a Diamondback. Thank you for the review and the piece of mind from worrying if I gave up too soon on what looked like the perfect cover.
I REALLY appreciate this video, Rick! I just purchased a 2024 GMC Sierra HD, and have been on the fence with Renegade for months. Their limited online information and questionable customer service response and lead times have given me pause, but your honest and thorough review have convinced me to go with Diamondback. I've previously had two Diamondback SEs on two different trucks that I've owned. The main appeal of the Renegade was the implied ease of complete removal of the cover, versus the headache with the Diamondback SE of having to remove the front and back flip-up sections, then use tools to remove the center section and carefully reinstall it in the same location. Long story short, I decided to order the new Diamondback Switchback, which appears to be their answer to the Renegade. Granted it's a new and unproven design, but at least I know that I have the excellent customer service of Diamondback, should I need it. Thanks again!
Hey there can you please speak to your experience with the switchback/make a review when you get it? No real customer info yet. Specifically the water-tightness of it, in S Florida it's like being underwater half the year. Also how it is to haul on top. I'm still between this, the switchback, or the american work cover. Much appreciate it.
@@---tx9xx Yes I will. It's supposed to be delivered tomorrow and then I'll need some time to get it installed and get acclimated to it. But I'll report back as soon as I can.
@@DAT_GUY303 Yes, I just haven't had time to do a video. I installed it myself with no issues, and have been really happy with it. I really like the fact that I can fold the back most section (and even the back and middle section) and drive without having to worry about removing the rear most section like I did with the SE that I had previously. I haven't removed the entire cover yet, but it will definitely be a two person job. The cover lets a bit of water in when it rains (just like the SE), but not enough to be a major concern. I'm glad that I went for the Switchback versus another SE or the Renegade.
Hi Rick, Thank you for the review. I was about to click the purchase button on this renegade cover for my Tundra until I saw your review. I will go for the DB instead. Thank You for saving me headaches and $3K. More power! - Ron
I hope you send the. A screenshot of this comment, because I’m looking at spending the 3K on a secure and Weather tight cover that sustains a load. Just found the Renegade comparison to Diamondback. TBH…I didn’t know they(Diamondbacks )had a competitor in weight carrier covers. I was excited, and love the non- protruding locks and tie downs on the Renegade…but keeping out water and dust is FUNDAMENTAL when making a purchase of this cost for a bed cover. Appreciate any follow up they have done with you, because if they Have not fixed this issue with you individually, they lost a real time sale. Thanks for being real and posting this, with so little reviews of Renegade available 🇺🇸👊🇺🇸
Thank you for your review. We just bought a 5th wheel, and I sadly have to remove my diamondback (which I love). I was looking into the renegade, but because of your honest review, I won’t be wasting money on a renegade. Good news for people with a 5th wheel. Diamondback told me that they’re coming out with a folding cover that works for 5th wheels. 👍🏼👍🏼
Great feedback and info. I am currently trying to decide between the two. I like the trifold design much better than the Diamondback design, but all the negatives you say here has me leaning towards Diamondback. It is strange that there are no other reviews than yours. Seems a bit fishy.
Was considering this product for new truck because of the flatness of it and have been happy with my DB on another vehicle, but your video just sealed the deal… ordering another DB.
great job on the review. I appreciate your honest feedback and the time you took to explain what you experienced. its not always easy to be the whistle blower. Thank you and keep going. I was also checking to see the difference between the 2 brands (DiamondBack and Renegade). I now know.
Wow, thanks for that review. I too am looking at covers and was pretty excited about the Renegade, but having to wait 6 months for a faulty product would be a deal breaker for sure. Sorry this happened to you, will keep looking myself.
This is interesting. I have also been researching this brand for 3 of our work trucks that carry tools. I couldn't find any reviews as well. Clearly there's a reason why. I will certainly take your advice and look into Diamond Back as well. It's disappointing that this company has failed so badly to back a very expensive product. Good luck.
I am not advertising for diamondback as I know nothing other than “word of mouth” about them. It’s just my frustration and lack of support from Renegade makes me wish I would have went a different direction. No one should base their buying decision off one persons thoughts/views/review. Below is the exact email I just sent last night to the company. I excluded names as I’m not trying to personally attack anyone publicly. I will post a comment after all this is resolved to let everyone know the outcome. Email to Renegade: I am not sure why you guys are not replying to my text messages. I still have a defective cover and your company refuses to make it right. Is this how you stand behind your product? John Doe you told me on 4/15 you made the owner aware and you were sending a kit to repair the issue . John Doe 2, you told me on two separate occasions you shipped me something to make the repair, but when I asked for the tracking numbers I get nothing. Please contact me so we can resolve this issue. I also need the owners name and contact information.
Sorry you had to go through all that. Super frustrating. Thanks for making time to warn the rest of us. I was really interested in the Renegade, but that delivery time and leaking like that is unacceptable. Plus they’re more expensive. Thanks man
Thank you so much for this review! Like you said, almost impossible to find any reviews that’s not from the company… Very suspicious red flags for me… It’s a real bummer. I like design for all the reasons you mentioned But poor customer service and leaking is a dealbreaker for me
After seeing others with these same issues....I went with Diamondback and it arrived a couple days and glad I went DB. When I contacted Renegade to ask some questions, they never replied and their lead time is ~25 weeks rights now minimum. Diamondback on the other hand responded to my question within 20 minutes and their lead time was 28-30 days and my cover arrived at day 30 so pretty accurate.
Dang! I was looking into them as an option but after seeing this coupled with the ship times and using the Covid excuse I'm going with Diamondback. I wish you the best of luck in getting things squared away if you haven't already.
Man i am so glad i found your review. I was going to order this cover this week but after seeing your review with the water leaking thats a no go. I keep all my work gear in the bed and getting wet is not an option. Like you i like the smooth look over the diamondback have to lock and unlock thing the diamond back had. After your review i guess ill stick with my soft cover.
Great first video! I'm looking and found their channel, liked the idea of nothing mounted on top but your review has made me rethink my future purchase. Look forward to more reviews from you.
Thanks for your review there isn’t many out there for renegade I was considering purchasing this top but if customer service is horrible and after months of waiting they still haven’t sent you something forget it!! I’ll go with Diamond back.
Good review video. In most things a customer will buy, there is always a trade off between price, quality, and service. With most purchases, you can have any two of these. Sounds you got none. 6.2K views = 6.2K new Diamondback customers.
This settles the question for me. I like the look of the Renegade because it’s more sleek but if there’s going to be water in the bed every time it sprinkles then I won’t be getting one. Thanks for the review!
Thank Goodness I found this review and thankyou so much Rick for doing the review. Like so many other commentors I've been looking for reviews to help me decide between this one and the diamondback but I was leaning toward this because of it's appearance and the L track. Sorry this happened to you but thanks again.
Thank you for sharing your honest experience with Renegade. I was on the fence on buying a Renegade cover vs Diamonback. After your horror story with Renegade I am 100% buying Diamondback!
I did and really like it. Was going to do a comparison video, but didn’t want it to look like I was bashing Renegade so left well enough alone. My diamondback experience was flawless. Very good company. Got it very fast as well and compared to renegade very simple to install. Good luck to you!
Any updates? My replacement cover is good to go. I was considering going with the diamond back when they offered a refund bit glad I didnt. Buddy has a diamond back and it useless when trying to secure different things to it. I am loading lumber or completeed cabinets on it weekly if not daily plus 4 wheeler on the weekends. Also you can't use a gooseneck with the diamondback. We tow both gooseneck and bumper pull. Being able to fold it up has been priceless.
Appreciate the review. I was really leaning towards renegade but due to the lack of info went with diamondback. This video validates my decision. Hope renegade does right by you. The diamondback has performed perfect. Only complaint would be the opposite, it’s so weather tight I have a hard time opening it with a slight wet freeze… good luck
Thanks for the review. My $100 vinyl cover doesn’t leak as much as the Renegade. I like the U channel but everything else you said about the Renegade outweighs that. I’m going with Diamond Back.
Thank you, for warning the rest of us. I was thinking about this because I don't like that Diamondback's hinges are on the outside. I'll just go with the Diamondback after seeing that.
Glad I saw this. Thanks. I need a cover and won’t wait for Renegade to get its act together even though I think the design has a couple nice advantages. Some things are not meant to be.
Thanks for the review . Owned a diamond back going on two years, and my only complaint is that I am too rough on the hydraulic strusts, as I have broken the ends of the arms on the hydraulic struts. Diamondback has sent them with a no questions asked warranty and usually receive replacements the same week. Last time they sent me a spare , apparently I am the only one complaining of it and they want to be proactive.. I am currently looking at the renegade because we are planning on purchasing a fifth wheel/gooseneck RV and the diamondback would be more of a pain to remove when need to used 5th wheel. Diamond back is not 100 % water proof, I would say 90%. Leaks a bit on sides as the gaskets hold water depending on parking angle. No water above cargo though.
thanks, hard to tell with these things as some people report the diamondback is 100% waterproof and a variecing of fu or two of the renegade made by them if they say that it's also 100% waterproof which truck models you have? maybe depends on installation?
@@---tx9xx I have a 2018 Titan and a 2015 f150. I would say the diamond is the closest thing to water proof I have seen. I said 90 %, but probably close to 97%. Literally a few drips down the side of the bed ans I should have said this happens when you open it due to the gaskets holding water inside . If the you sealed off the end of the gaskets, it probably would not happen.
Wow, this review saved me a headache. Was back and forth from renegade to diamondback. Hopefully they take care of your covers isues as this video has made my decision to go with Diamondback.
I was going to buy it but the shipping cost and lead time killed it. Imagine you need a part or claim warranty, how long that’s gonna take for you to get a replacement. On the forum I heard one guy waited 8 month for the cover. I went with diamondback HD, no regrets, no leaks, came with extra seals, lifetime warranty, holds 1600lbs, also made in US, free shipping, cheaper, tons of accessories, especially the bins, they are great. It’s been over a year now since I got my cover from diamondback. I’m surprised to see renegade is still in business due to the lack of communication,customer service, lead time and shipping cost.
True but a huge difference between him is the fact that for the diamondback you need cheese whereas the renegade just locks with your tailgate and doesn't require to haul her out yet another extra set of keys also it's flat on top which I think is a big advantage also it appears to remove by just pulling a lever completely rather than disassembling it
By the way, how do you like the bins? I haven't been able to find anyone in real life who has one. They move around? Do you think they could be used also without the diamondback cover?
Appreciate your honest review. We too have been waiting since last year (OCT). Communication not good at all. So sad, we went to love the cover too! Hope ours doesn’t leak and they sent the proper hardware. Ours is here in town waiting delivery….-Sadly, Renegade never notified us that it shipped:( ( even with their supposed improved customer service efforts) ALSO, I think it is terrible business practice that they ask for full payment ahead of shipment when you have customers waiting more than six months for delivery.
Thank you for posting a great video. This is tragic. I was onboard with Renegrade despite the delays because of the L track and full access to my bed for larger items.
I can’t say I blame you. I wish you better luck. I really liked some of the features as well. I was just so fed up with them I had to go a different direction.
Thank you for posting your review. I was about to purchase this cover today even though it would take till the middle of October at the earliest, that is if their supplier is able to deliver hinges by mid September. Crazy. Great looking bed cover though.
hmmmm I was considering this but I'm not sure now Yeah having a flexible area is what I assumed would fail first down the road not when new. Dang I really liked the low profile and the L-hooks etc....
Rick thank you for your review , i owned a dimonback in my tacoma but i sold the truck and now i was looking for a diferent option than the dimondback beacouse my actual truck is a ford maverick with smal bed so i saw this brand and i really was considering on this renengade cover but thanks to your review im gonna pass i star looikg for somthing else , to expensive for the quality of the cover is licking everywhere and the time to get it no way , and for that is a little with the bad costumer service make it worse , thank you so much for your review and show us with proof all the licking with that cover !!!! good luck renegade hope you guys can improve tour covers soon
Dang, I really like the design and look of the Renegade vs the Diamondback. Did they ever fix your issues? If it didn't leak, would you have a positive opinion of it?
Looked like a great cover, so glad I saw this video before I ordered one. I want a cover that doesn’t leak, and this one leaks BAD apparently. Diamondback it is!
This video helped me decide to go with a DB tri-fold. I mean, who gives thousands to a company to wait nearly a 1/2 a year for a leaky cover? DB now has a tri-fold, which I am ordering. Renegade's website says 90% waterproof. What does that even mean? If it is leaking...it is leaking.
I dislike this video cause the concept of the Renegade is about perfect for a tonneau, and I wanted one. After seeing this and reading a few of the comments, Diamondback it is. Thanks for the video.👍
I bought my renegade before this review was made and i had a very similar experience. Took 4 times longer than was promised. I was also sent the wrong hardware, they did over night me some new brackets, that i still had to modify to make work. The directions were horrible, it took over 2 weeks to get it on and operating correctly. Now i have had it for over 4 years now. Im still not impressed, it leaks water horribly, shifts out of place on gravel roads, and if you secure a load on top of it( 4 wheeler)the upwards pressure of the tie down pops the corners up and unsecured the load as well as bending the slide latch mechanism. Its pretty much worthless. It does look good though 😂 i still get comments on it. BTW i purchased a diamondback for my wifes truck and it has performed flawless. Lesson learned.
Add me to the list of folks researching who are now opting for the Diamondback over the Renegade. Renegade, if you are reading monitoring these comments I see that you have lost out on at least a few hundred thousand dollars in sales all because you failed to provide adequate customer service to a paying customer. A tad more effort, would have made you a lot more money. Damn shame too, because I like the Renegade more, but with an investment at that price point - you can't beat quality and customer service.
Also, would like to know this is now diamondback tried to tri fold and I'm trying to finally decide between whether to take the chance of renegade ago with diamond back, mostly I need something that is theftproof, but watertight
From what I've read through the comments, he finally got a full refund and bought a Diamondback. Rick said he is super happy with it and was going to do another video but decided not to do one. Said Diamondback back customer service is top notch.
I hope you have better luck. One thing I will tell you is that the cover seems a tad small for our truck. You will also have to ditch the fold out handle if yours has the multi pro tailgate. It wasn’t until I talked to diamondback that I learned that renegade makes a handful of sizes that work on several different models. So our 6’ 10” bed may be getting the same cover as let’s say a 6’ 8” bed. It also is not tapered so the reveal will look different from front to back. I did get a diamondback and plan to do a comparison review. There are things with it I’m not crazy about but the company seems top notch. Everything was so easy and I got it in 11 days. Good luck to you!
@@rickdailey9179 I appreciate all the info. I have the multi pro gate but don't use the handle so that's not a big deal. If it doesn't fit correctly though then that will be a problem. One good thing is that I'm only eight hours from Renegade so I am having them install it, which is free if you bring your truck to them. I look forward to your comparison, the diamond back was too attention grabbing for me. I want to attract as little attention as possible but if it's not going to do what intended then diamond back is the only other brand in the game that I know of.
@Justin I can finally reply to this. I had my cover installed on Monday. That's after almost 10 months of waiting. My cover does not leak at all between the sections but seals on the end corners and between the cover and tailgate do leak. The bed rails are different heights and tailgate sits lower than the rails so there is not much Renegade can do for that. I am going to remove the plastic caps and shim under them to seal it up. The build quality is very nice and I'm happy with it overall. Would be nice if they made the seal track bolt in so it could be shimmed. That would surely raise the sale price. I have seen diamond back covers on trucks in my travels and I prefer this cover hands down over the diamondback.
Thanks Man. Helped me decide to not by one of these. Dimaonback is the direction I will go. To bad because at first glance they looked like a better desigened. But Customer service on an item like is not to much to ask. Utha is not China. Do better.
Considering this guy made a TH-cam channel just to give an accurate and honest review of a single product is enough for me to go with Diamondback Covers.
it goes without says THANK YOU for this review! You have saved many of us $3k plus lots of aggravation. I really hope Renegade sees this review and realizes the power of social media and the implications of poor communications and poor quality! if not they will not be around long!!!!
Rick - thanks for sharing your review of the Renegade cover. Don't mean to hijack your experience, but wanted to share mine here since you have a good audience. I bought mine in April 2021 after weeks of research and comparisons with the DiamondBack. In fact, I hadn't heard of Renegade until I started researching the DiamondBack! Like you, it took a while to get it; close to 4 months or more at the time. I have noticed an improvement in communications since then, but it wasn't hard to improve from dismal. Like you, I received the wrong hardware (2017+ Ford bracket for a 2013 Super Duty). They were quick to resolve that. Since using the cover for almost a year, I can tell you that it has not held up to half of the marketed use-cases; it often goes out of alignment after running on gravel roads, not to mention "overlanding". Just this weekend, after camping and running it in it's folded state, the middle panel came out of alignment and it no longer will close properly. It has gotten to the point of worrying if the cover is going to fail me out in the field by not opening or closing properly when I need it. To say I've been disappointed is an understatement. So, you're not alone in your assessment and I caution others who might be on the fence to really do the best research they can on the options available to them. I'll be reaching out to Renegade first thing tomorrow, also, and hope to find an alternative rather than sending it to the recyclers.
Please continue to update us. It seems like such a great idea - don’t need any more keys, can be easily be removed, super secure vs breakins… wish the execution bore out without maintenance for those of us who want a set it and forget it solution
How did it turn out?
Have you found the issues wrong with the diamondbackhd? I don't care about the leaks around the sides weather stripping can fix that and just have more weight on top when you install it.
I guess it was a one and done comment folks...LOL This helps no one
@@---tx9xx To follow up on this...
Renegade returned my calls and gave me some advice on shifting the panels back into place. After describing another issue with the torsion bar (for dual latch operation), they sent out some aluminum shims to help get the rails sitting properly to actually engage the gears. However, I find it much easier to simply pull the handle on both sides rather than deal with a torsion bar that may not work 100% of the time.
Fast forward to now... I find myself cursing every time I use the bed of the truck, as more often than not one rail has fallen out of alignment and the pins get stuck, or the rod within the rail that engages the pin (to secure it) is bent in such a way that I can no longer lock that side without bending it back into place. Closing the lids too hard might result in the rails falling out of alignment and creating issues down the road.
I'm hesitant to put any sort of load on top (even if it's secured), as the cover could accidentally be disengaged on any one or more corners due to the issues mentioned earlier, which could compromise its ability to stay in place with a load on top. One turn and the laws of physics could cause the cover to come off and the load with it.
These are all issues that shouldn't really be issues given the price. To be honest, I think the steel bed (2013 F-350) is problematic given the lack of good mounting points for the rails. The new body style F-150 and Super Duty's are probably better off in that regard. I really dig the looks of the cover and its potential, but I'd be lying if I didn't say I should've gone with the DiamondBack.
This is extremely helpful! Waiting 6 month and paying $3k for a leaking bed cover is nuts. I love the look and everything over Diamondback but it needs to not leak. Thanks for posting.
Rick, thank you so much for your honest review. I too am deciding between the Diamondback and the Renegade. I was leaning toward the Renegade because I really want a tri-fold, but I can't take the chance of having leaks and no customer service to resolve issues. I'm sorry this happened to you. Thanks again.
Your video sold me on a DiamondBack over a Renegade. Thank you for posting.
I don’t own a renegade, but do own a Diamondback. I have owned the DB cover for only 16 months, but the cover is superb. I have not had any leaks and is solidly built. There’s a reason the DB has a good following and many repeat customers. Highly recommend the DB 😉👍
RICK, We all thank you for your refreshing candor. Not the greatest video audio and visual, but honest. I loved it, and you saved me $3000. I thank you for the outstanding information.
Thank you for making this video. I was going back and forth from Diamondback to this and you helped me with the decision.
Good review. Honest and to the point. I was on the cuff of buying one and will be going with the Diamondback. Sorry you had all the problems, you took one for the team. Thank you.
Thank you for the review Rick! I was contemplating the renegade vs. diamondback (which I own on another vehicle) for my new truck and your review convinced me to go with diamondback. Doesn't look as nice but it's both waterproof and has excellent customer service.
I've been researching this cover for a week now. Awesome cover. But $2800 plus $500 freight total $3300 throw in 25 weeks minimum lead time and it's a deal breaker for me. I wash my hands and seal it's fate with this video. Thanks Rick Dailey. Next stop Diamondback.🤜🤛
Thank you! I really wanted a renegade but was worried about the wait time and lack of info not made by the company! You saved me time and money from buying Renegade junk! Thank you again!
the fact that you havent posted a youtube video before is EXACTLY the reason i trust what ever your about to say. thanks for posting ill watch the video now lol
Diamondback for the win!!! Thanks Rick for the honesty!
I’ll go with the Diamondback cover now. Thanks for your honest review.
Hey Did you get the Diamondback . Gave Renegade a lot of thought but lead time and possible leaks it’s out of question.
Wowwwww. !!!!!!!!!!!
I love the look of renegade over diamond back,I'm a contractor, and need it for day in day heavy use I'm thourly disappointed, I love the lower profile of renegade, so now I'm not sure what to do, I definitely can't have water get in on valuable tools
Thank you very much for your review
this design is so appealing but if it's not watertight, it rains so heavy here and i need watertight i dunno if the new diamondback trifold is like that
Man I can feel your pain brother. I found your video because like you said there is nothing out there that wasn't put out by Renegade. I was thinking this was a better option than a Diamondback, but not anymore. The build/lead time was terrible. The leaking is unacceptable. Baffling. The customer service is terrible. I hate it for you, but thanks for saving some of us some pain.
Finally got a response from Trent at renegade. He admitted they really screwed up with me. He offered to exchange for a new one and would take 4 weeks. They said the only other thing they could do was give me an accessory of my choice, but no discount. I said no thanks, just refund my money. Ordered a diamondback today.
How long did it take for you to get a refund?
Thank you for the honesty of your highly disappointing experience. I am currently researching what I want for my '19 Duramax and have now ruled out the Renegade. It's truly unfortunate that companies like this have lost their integrity and treat their consumers so poorly. I just want to express my gratitude for you taking the time to help others avoid the frustration you have been through. I tend to loose my bananas when I hear about this kind of stuff and as a woman who LOVES her truck(s), I have an Avalanche as well...which is why I'm looking for a tonneau cover to begin with, it seems like I am at a slight disadvantage when I talk to distributors about what I specifically want. Thank you again and I hope you reported them to the Better Business Bureau.
Thanks for the review! Like most other people here I was trying to decide between Diamondback and Renegade. I had already decided to go with Diamondback before seeing your review because of other reviews I read. Your review just reinforced that fact. I also really wanted to love this cover. I'm only glad that I was able to find out that I wouldn't love it before I dropped $3k+ on it.
Your video is iconic and will be a great warning to anyone looking at this cover.
I’m piling on. Was close to buying a Renegade over Diamondback but no longer. Thanks Rick.
Thanks for honest review!
Thanks for putting this review out. There were next to nothing reviews out there wheni first looked at this cover. And like you, the cover has some nice features over the daimond back. Can handle more loadss, no exposed hinges or cleats. But they wanted $550 to ship it including 30+ weeks of wait so...I like yeah no thanks.
There was a lot of red flags so I just went with the tried and true diamondback. Probably somebody is building this out of their garage.
That’s the problem with some companies who think they have a great product they get an attitude and have poor customer service. Thanks for the review I definitely have change my mind about this cover I don’t need to put weight on top of it that bad
Thank you for taking the time to give a honest review, I want this cover for my truck but have held off because off the price and no reviews outside of the marketing propaganda.
Quality defects and stuff happen, especially for small start up companies, but considering the price of this cover, Renegade should be doing about this
Your review just helped me decided between this cover and diamond back. going diamond back.
I was in a similar situation, debating between renegade and diamondback. After dealing with the poor communication and customer service with renegade, as well as no customer review any where in the internet, I decided to go with Diamond back for my 2022 tundra. I just felt uncomfortable going with renegade, even the company address seemed off, seemed like a mom and pops shop. Diamond back company, service, and product is freaking awesome. I was stuck in a hurricane in Florida. Not one drop of water in my bed, could not believe it. Diamond back product and customer service hands down
I ended up with the diamondback and really like it. Wish things would have went better with renegade, but I have no regrets with diamondback. The company was awesome to deal with and I received the cover in less than 2 weeks.
I just wish the diamondback was a no key needed option like the renegade. I'm not sure why they were being advantage to having a separate like when it could be designed to just like with your tailgate. Also the flat top obviously it's an attractive option.
Also apparently the renegade can be removed completely just by pulling a lever where is the diamondback obviously Hass to be disassembled
@@---tx9xxprobably why it leaks.
I waited 8 months for my Renegade cover and finally gave up and asked for a refund. So disappointed, but now I think I may have dodged a bullet. It is a lot of money for a cover that leaks. I'm getting a Diamondback. Thank you for the review and the piece of mind from worrying if I gave up too soon on what looked like the perfect cover.
I REALLY appreciate this video, Rick! I just purchased a 2024 GMC Sierra HD, and have been on the fence with Renegade for months. Their limited online information and questionable customer service response and lead times have given me pause, but your honest and thorough review have convinced me to go with Diamondback. I've previously had two Diamondback SEs on two different trucks that I've owned. The main appeal of the Renegade was the implied ease of complete removal of the cover, versus the headache with the Diamondback SE of having to remove the front and back flip-up sections, then use tools to remove the center section and carefully reinstall it in the same location. Long story short, I decided to order the new Diamondback Switchback, which appears to be their answer to the Renegade. Granted it's a new and unproven design, but at least I know that I have the excellent customer service of Diamondback, should I need it. Thanks again!
Please keep us updated on how the switchback workds for you, if you can give a brief review.
Hey there can you please speak to your experience with the switchback/make a review when you get it? No real customer info yet. Specifically the water-tightness of it, in S Florida it's like being underwater half the year. Also how it is to haul on top. I'm still between this, the switchback, or the american work cover. Much appreciate it.
@@---tx9xx Yes I will. It's supposed to be delivered tomorrow and then I'll need some time to get it installed and get acclimated to it. But I'll report back as soon as I can.
@@chrisbusnutupdates on the switchback?
@@DAT_GUY303 Yes, I just haven't had time to do a video. I installed it myself with no issues, and have been really happy with it. I really like the fact that I can fold the back most section (and even the back and middle section) and drive without having to worry about removing the rear most section like I did with the SE that I had previously. I haven't removed the entire cover yet, but it will definitely be a two person job. The cover lets a bit of water in when it rains (just like the SE), but not enough to be a major concern. I'm glad that I went for the Switchback versus another SE or the Renegade.
Hi Rick, Thank you for the review. I was about to click the purchase button on this renegade cover for my Tundra until I saw your review. I will go for the DB instead. Thank You for saving me headaches and $3K. More power! - Ron
I hope you send the. A screenshot of this comment, because I’m looking at spending the 3K on a secure and Weather tight cover that sustains a load. Just found the Renegade comparison to Diamondback. TBH…I didn’t know they(Diamondbacks )had a competitor in weight carrier covers. I was excited, and love the non- protruding locks and tie downs on the Renegade…but keeping out water and dust is FUNDAMENTAL when making a purchase of this cost for a bed cover. Appreciate any follow up they have done with you, because if they Have not fixed this issue with you individually, they lost a real time sale. Thanks for being real and posting this, with so little reviews of Renegade available
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Wow, definitely passing on the Renedage. Thx man.
This helped big time. I was almost ready to pull the trigger. Diamondback it is
This video was my deciding factor, I'm going with diamondback!
Thank you for your review. We just bought a 5th wheel, and I sadly have to remove my diamondback (which I love). I was looking into the renegade, but because of your honest review, I won’t be wasting money on a renegade.
Good news for people with a 5th wheel. Diamondback told me that they’re coming out with a folding cover that works for 5th wheels. 👍🏼👍🏼
Hi there, could you give her a bit more insight into the details that diamondback told you about the upcoming folding cover?
Great feedback and info. I am currently trying to decide between the two. I like the trifold design much better than the Diamondback design, but all the negatives you say here has me leaning towards Diamondback. It is strange that there are no other reviews than yours. Seems a bit fishy.
Was considering this product for
new truck because of the flatness of it and have been happy with my DB on another vehicle, but your video just sealed the deal… ordering another DB.
great job on the review. I appreciate your honest feedback and the time you took to explain what you experienced. its not always easy to be the whistle blower. Thank you and keep going. I was also checking to see the difference between the 2 brands (DiamondBack and Renegade). I now know.
Wow, thanks for that review. I too am looking at covers and was pretty excited about the Renegade, but having to wait 6 months for a faulty product would be a deal breaker for sure. Sorry this happened to you, will keep looking myself.
This is interesting. I have also been researching this brand for 3 of our work trucks that carry tools. I couldn't find any reviews as well. Clearly there's a reason why. I will certainly take your advice and look into Diamond Back as well. It's disappointing that this company has failed so badly to back a very expensive product. Good luck.
I am not advertising for diamondback as I know nothing other than “word of mouth” about them. It’s just my frustration and lack of support from Renegade makes me wish I would have went a different direction. No one should base their buying decision off one persons thoughts/views/review. Below is the exact email I just sent last night to the company. I excluded names as I’m not trying to personally attack anyone publicly. I will post a comment after all this is resolved to let everyone know the outcome.
Email to Renegade:
I am not sure why you guys are not replying to my text messages. I still have a defective cover and your company refuses to make it right. Is this how you stand behind your product? John Doe you told me on 4/15 you made the owner aware and you were sending a kit to repair the issue . John Doe 2, you told me on two separate occasions you shipped me something to make the repair, but when I asked for the tracking numbers I get nothing. Please contact me so we can resolve this issue. I also need the owners name and contact information.
Sorry you had to go through all that. Super frustrating. Thanks for making time to warn the rest of us.
I was really interested in the Renegade, but that delivery time and leaking like that is unacceptable. Plus they’re more expensive. Thanks man
Thanks for the video and saving me from buying one. I'll just order the DB Switchback.
So happy I found this video! I was going to order the Renegade tomorrow but not now! I will order the DB instead. Thanks!
Thank you so much for this review! Like you said, almost impossible to find any reviews that’s not from the company… Very suspicious red flags for me… It’s a real bummer. I like design for all the reasons you mentioned But poor customer service and leaking is a dealbreaker for me
Thank you so much for an honest review. I was close to ordering one, but now am reconsidering.
After seeing others with these same issues....I went with Diamondback and it arrived a couple days and glad I went DB. When I contacted Renegade to ask some questions, they never replied and their lead time is ~25 weeks rights now minimum. Diamondback on the other hand responded to my question within 20 minutes and their lead time was 28-30 days and my cover arrived at day 30 so pretty accurate.
Thanks for the review. I was about to pull the trigger but after this and other comments im going with a DB.
Dang! I was looking into them as an option but after seeing this coupled with the ship times and using the Covid excuse I'm going with Diamondback. I wish you the best of luck in getting things squared away if you haven't already.
Man i am so glad i found your review. I was going to order this cover this week but after seeing your review with the water leaking thats a no go. I keep all my work gear in the bed and getting wet is not an option. Like you i like the smooth look over the diamondback have to lock and unlock thing the diamond back had. After your review i guess ill stick with my soft cover.
Great first video!
I'm looking and found their channel, liked the idea of nothing mounted on top but your review has made me rethink my future purchase.
Look forward to more reviews from you.
Thanks for your review there isn’t many out there for renegade I was considering purchasing this top but if customer service is horrible and after months of waiting they still haven’t sent you something forget it!! I’ll go with Diamond back.
Thanks a lot for your video sorry you had to experience this but you are saving anyone who watches from reliving your experience. Diamondback for me
Tnks for the review. Now I know what not to get. Where was it made ?
Good review video. In most things a customer will buy, there is always a trade off between price, quality, and service. With most purchases, you can have any two of these. Sounds you got none. 6.2K views = 6.2K new Diamondback customers.
This settles the question for me. I like the look of the Renegade because it’s more sleek but if there’s going to be water in the bed every time it sprinkles then I won’t be getting one. Thanks for the review!
Thanks man, sorry for your troubles. Really appreciate telling us about them for obvious reasons.
Thank Goodness I found this review and thankyou so much Rick for doing the review. Like so many other commentors I've been looking for reviews to help me decide between this one and the diamondback but I was leaning toward this because of it's appearance and the L track. Sorry this happened to you but thanks again.
Thanks for the review it made my decision. I'm buying a Diamondback.
Thank you for sharing your honest experience with Renegade. I was on the fence on buying a Renegade cover vs Diamonback. After your horror story with Renegade I am 100% buying Diamondback!
I did and really like it. Was going to do a comparison video, but didn’t want it to look like I was bashing Renegade so left well enough alone. My diamondback experience was flawless. Very good company. Got it very fast as well and compared to renegade very simple to install. Good luck to you!
Any updates? My replacement cover is good to go. I was considering going with the diamond back when they offered a refund bit glad I didnt. Buddy has a diamond back and it useless when trying to secure different things to it. I am loading lumber or completeed cabinets on it weekly if not daily plus 4 wheeler on the weekends. Also you can't use a gooseneck with the diamondback. We tow both gooseneck and bumper pull. Being able to fold it up has been priceless.
Appreciate the review. I was really leaning towards renegade but due to the lack of info went with diamondback. This video validates my decision. Hope renegade does right by you. The diamondback has performed perfect. Only complaint would be the opposite, it’s so weather tight I have a hard time opening it with a slight wet freeze… good luck
Silicone spray the weatherstripping at beginning of winter and halfway through
Thanks for the review. My $100 vinyl cover doesn’t leak as much as the Renegade. I like the U channel but everything else you said about the Renegade outweighs that. I’m going with Diamond Back.
Thank you, for warning the rest of us. I was thinking about this because I don't like that Diamondback's hinges are on the outside. I'll just go with the Diamondback after seeing that.
Glad I saw this. Thanks. I need a cover and won’t wait for Renegade to get its act together even though I think the design has a couple nice advantages. Some things are not meant to be.
Thanks for the review . Owned a diamond back going on two years, and my only complaint is that I am too rough on the hydraulic strusts, as I have broken the ends of the arms on the hydraulic struts. Diamondback has sent them with a no questions asked warranty and usually receive replacements the same week. Last time they sent me a spare , apparently I am the only one complaining of it and they want to be proactive.. I am currently looking at the renegade because we are planning on purchasing a fifth wheel/gooseneck RV and the diamondback would be more of a pain to remove when need to used 5th wheel. Diamond back is not 100 % water proof, I would say 90%. Leaks a bit on sides as the gaskets hold water depending on parking angle. No water above cargo though.
thanks, hard to tell with these things as some people report the diamondback is 100% waterproof and a variecing of fu or two of the renegade made by them if they say that it's also 100% waterproof which truck models you have? maybe depends on installation?
@@---tx9xx I have a 2018 Titan and a 2015 f150. I would say the diamond is the closest thing to water proof I have seen. I said 90 %, but probably close to 97%. Literally a few drips down the side of the bed ans I should have said this happens when you open it due to the gaskets holding water inside . If the you sealed off the end of the gaskets, it probably would not happen.
Wow, this review saved me a headache. Was back and forth from renegade to diamondback. Hopefully they take care of your covers isues as this video has made my decision to go with Diamondback.
I was going to buy it but the shipping cost and lead time killed it. Imagine you need a part or claim warranty, how long that’s gonna take for you to get a replacement. On the forum I heard one guy waited 8 month for the cover. I went with diamondback HD, no regrets, no leaks, came with extra seals, lifetime warranty, holds 1600lbs, also made in US, free shipping, cheaper, tons of accessories, especially the bins, they are great. It’s been over a year now since I got my cover from diamondback. I’m surprised to see renegade is still in business due to the lack of communication,customer service, lead time and shipping cost.
True but a huge difference between him is the fact that for the diamondback you need cheese whereas the renegade just locks with your tailgate and doesn't require to haul her out yet another extra set of keys also it's flat on top which I think is a big advantage also it appears to remove by just pulling a lever completely rather than disassembling it
By the way, how do you like the bins? I haven't been able to find anyone in real life who has one. They move around? Do you think they could be used also without the diamondback cover?
Do you think they could be mounted the bin at a position other than all the way forward also?
Thanks for this real review. Renegade Covers has too many shill reviews that I don't trust. I'm in my second Diamondback Cover and love them.
Appreciate your honest review. We too have been waiting since last year (OCT). Communication not good at all. So sad, we went to love the cover too! Hope ours doesn’t leak and they sent the proper hardware. Ours is here in town waiting delivery….-Sadly, Renegade never notified us that it shipped:( ( even with their supposed improved customer service efforts) ALSO, I think it is terrible business practice that they ask for full payment ahead of shipment when you have customers waiting more than six months for delivery.
how did it go?
I appreciate you doin this. I’m going with the diamondback now.
Looking at one for my Raptor but the lead time was a huge turnoff. And now this. Nah, diamondback it is.
Hope you figured this out.
Thank you for posting a great video. This is tragic. I was onboard with Renegrade despite the delays because of the L track and full access to my bed for larger items.
I can’t say I blame you. I wish you better luck. I really liked some of the features as well. I was just so fed up with them I had to go a different direction.
Thank you for posting your review. I was about to purchase this cover today even though it would take till the middle of October at the earliest, that is if their supplier is able to deliver hinges by mid September. Crazy. Great looking bed cover though.
Thanks for sharing, great info to have as a potential customer!
hmmmm I was considering this but I'm not sure now Yeah having a flexible area is what I assumed would fail first down the road not when new. Dang I really liked the low profile and the L-hooks etc....
Rick thank you for your review , i owned a dimonback in my tacoma but i sold the truck and now i was looking for a diferent option than the dimondback beacouse my actual truck is a ford maverick with smal bed so i saw this brand and i really was considering on this renengade cover but thanks to your review im gonna pass i star looikg for somthing else , to expensive for the quality of the cover is licking everywhere and the time to get it no way , and for that is a little with the bad costumer service make it worse , thank you so much for your review and show us with proof all the licking with that cover !!!! good luck renegade hope you guys can improve tour covers soon
DB this video made my mind up. Can’t be bothered with horrible customer service
Dang, I really like the design and look of the Renegade vs the Diamondback. Did they ever fix your issues? If it didn't leak, would you have a positive opinion of it?
Looked like a great cover, so glad I saw this video before I ordered one. I want a cover that doesn’t leak, and this one leaks BAD apparently. Diamondback it is!
This video helped me decide to go with a DB tri-fold. I mean, who gives thousands to a company to wait nearly a 1/2 a year for a leaky cover? DB now has a tri-fold, which I am ordering.
Renegade's website says 90% waterproof. What does that even mean? If it is leaking...it is leaking.
I ordered my cover for a F 150 on 11/26/21and am still waiting over 9 months now. They say they don't have the hardware to put it together.
Thanks for the honest review, as such I will be buying from diamondback
Thanks for the info. Now im going to order a diamondback.
Thank you for posting this. Hopefully this video can help other people make the right decision. I'm sorry you had to take the hit.
You just saved me from buying this, thank you!
Thanks for reviewing. I know it's a head ache but I would send it back. That's terrible shame
Really appreciate the video. Thanks
Thank you for the review. It helped me make my mind up.
I dislike this video cause the concept of the Renegade is about perfect for a tonneau, and I wanted one. After seeing this and reading a few of the comments, Diamondback it is.
Thanks for the video.👍
So what happened?? Did they fix it? Refund it?
I bought my renegade before this review was made and i had a very similar experience. Took 4 times longer than was promised. I was also sent the wrong hardware, they did over night me some new brackets, that i still had to modify to make work. The directions were horrible, it took over 2 weeks to get it on and operating correctly. Now i have had it for over 4 years now. Im still not impressed, it leaks water horribly, shifts out of place on gravel roads, and if you secure a load on top of it( 4 wheeler)the upwards pressure of the tie down pops the corners up and unsecured the load as well as bending the slide latch mechanism. Its pretty much worthless. It does look good though 😂 i still get comments on it. BTW i purchased a diamondback for my wifes truck and it has performed flawless. Lesson learned.
We are all waiting for the outcome. I feel your pain.
Thank u for getting to points unlike these "reviwers".
Add me to the list of folks researching who are now opting for the Diamondback over the Renegade. Renegade, if you are reading monitoring these comments I see that you have lost out on at least a few hundred thousand dollars in sales all because you failed to provide adequate customer service to a paying customer. A tad more effort, would have made you a lot more money. Damn shame too, because I like the Renegade more, but with an investment at that price point - you can't beat quality and customer service.
Hey Thought about getting one but long wait and possibly leaks I changed my mind. Good video
Rick can we get an update a year later on how its going with the cover? Really appreciate that you did this!
Also, would like to know this is now diamondback tried to tri fold and I'm trying to finally decide between whether to take the chance of renegade ago with diamond back, mostly I need something that is theftproof, but watertight
Be nice if you did an update review or what occurred.
From what I've read through the comments, he finally got a full refund and bought a Diamondback. Rick said he is super happy with it and was going to do another video but decided not to do one. Said Diamondback back customer service is top notch.
I appreciate the video. Mine is for the same truck and still a couple months out but I will be sure to check it for leaks.
I hope you have better luck. One thing I will tell you is that the cover seems a tad small for our truck. You will also have to ditch the fold out handle if yours has the multi pro tailgate. It wasn’t until I talked to diamondback that I learned that renegade makes a handful of sizes that work on several different models. So our 6’ 10” bed may be getting the same cover as let’s say a 6’ 8” bed. It also is not tapered so the reveal will look different from front to back. I did get a diamondback and plan to do a comparison review. There are things with it I’m not crazy about but the company seems top notch. Everything was so easy and I got it in 11 days. Good luck to you!
@@rickdailey9179 I appreciate all the info. I have the multi pro gate but don't use the handle so that's not a big deal. If it doesn't fit correctly though then that will be a problem. One good thing is that I'm only eight hours from Renegade so I am having them install it, which is free if you bring your truck to them. I look forward to your comparison, the diamond back was too attention grabbing for me. I want to attract as little attention as possible but if it's not going to do what intended then diamond back is the only other brand in the game that I know of.
@@ryancrookham2788 any updates?
@Justin I can finally reply to this. I had my cover installed on Monday. That's after almost 10 months of waiting. My cover does not leak at all between the sections but seals on the end corners and between the cover and tailgate do leak. The bed rails are different heights and tailgate sits lower than the rails so there is not much Renegade can do for that. I am going to remove the plastic caps and shim under them to seal it up. The build quality is very nice and I'm happy with it overall. Would be nice if they made the seal track bolt in so it could be shimmed. That would surely raise the sale price. I have seen diamond back covers on trucks in my travels and I prefer this cover hands down over the diamondback.
How's your experience with it now after a few more months with it?
Good video... guess I'll stick with diamond back they have never let me down
Thanks Man. Helped me decide to not by one of these. Dimaonback is the direction I will go. To bad because at first glance they looked like a better desigened. But Customer service on an item like is not to much to ask. Utha is not China. Do better.