I don't see the actor/actress endings as good or bad, just who you decided to become. How I sort of imagine what happened was Lily died in the fire on the boat, and James tried to bring her back through supernatural means (which they implied it). She did but not exactly how he thought. If you guys have seen the movie The Prodigy, I feel like its something similar. James AND Lily are sharing one body (James') and are sort of flip flopping between the two. So the Director is trying to get them to choose just ONE singular mind (he in particular wants James, maybe because he's easier to control or something?). James always seemed to be a little envious of Lily's courage, so maybe with disobeying the Director he wanted to be her (which results in Lily taking over the body for good). The Rat Queen sending them back to the beginning is because they can't decide who to truly be, the boy or the girl, which mind to truly take over the body. That's just how I interrpreted it, since it seems to really be up to us how to do it. Its not like the first LOF where its easier to understand what the story was.
The director is james consciousness and we have to decide whether to left lily behind and move on or let lily live once again by let her taking control of james body
I honestly don't care which is good or bad, the disobey and obey ending speeches both give me chills no matter how many times I hear them and that violin music at the end ^_^ so pretty
It doesn't help that a lot of the context has been cut out like a clumsy butcher and a bunch of symbolism is lost. The chest is representative of the abuse the siblings suffered at the hands of their father, as we learn in flashbacks. The character you play is an actor/actress. Whether you are the bother or the sister depends on choices you make in play, with a good chance that the sibling you don't end up being died in childhood. The first ending I don't know exactly, but a big theme of the game is an actor building themself into the character they play, so it's probably related to your actions not leaning towards either sibling, an incomplete character, a "thing that shouldn't be."
I saw bizarre references to Eraserhead (1977), The Shining (1980), Twin Peaks (1990), Se7en (1995), etc. I think the best way to describe it as a Surrealistic.
As far as i've understood, the good ending is the one with the female actress, because you need to disobey all the Directors orders in the four possible choices. The bad one is with the male actor, because you need to obey the Director in all four choices, and the true/neutral ending is because you have mixed obeyed and disobeyed in the four choices.
Ryan Pruner in the first choice, the Director tells you to “shoot The right one” As in the woman on the right. So it depends on your obediance of all his instructions
I think you have a worse ending by disobeying. If you disobey you basicly can't move on and portray your dead sister on stage. If you obey you also have a bad ending, because even in moving on, you burn yourself out as stated (but not shown in the ending) multiple times by the director in your playtrough. He wants you to shine for once, brightly, but short. To not be nothing for your whole life (both endings destroy the formless figurine). In both endings the character you play isn't at peace with his decision though, and all his selftorment and indecision opens up again symbolized as the opening box. Above the box is the Shizo filmposter additionally confirming that. In both endings you are the same person shown subtle by the wart "both" persons have on the right side of their lip (left in the mirror). You can actually draw a lot more story from the game, one that i find very interesting and unique. The only problem is that it has to much clutter of effects and stuff thrown around, so even people that could decipher complicated symbolism get thrown off, because some entire scenes arent even important. If you really look for it though there is some genius storytelling to be found.
I think the bit where lily dies was not what actually happened. It was what happened in the script but not in real life. In real life you(the player) choose who died and who survived(if you don't, you just keep doing it) because you can't be both. Whoever you are, you see the events from their point of view. If lily survived and james died, she thinks that if james lived he should die in order for them to be together(not because he's weak but because she always had a dramatic and creative imagination). If james survived he accepts his past although it doesn't make his character any stronger.
Dont follow the clickbaiting title. None of the endings are good, bad or true, the whole point of the game is that you dont know wich one is true, and that none of them are bad.
The neutral ending implies that everything up to this point was real, it wasn't in the player characters head but rather their really insane on board a ghost ship...
Obviously the first is a bad ending there’s no explanation needed the actor simply has lost themself and has not been true to the character themself or the performance
The good ending is the one with the male actor, the bad ending is the one with the one with the evil lady, the true ending is the one with the female actor
@@sydneywaldron3609 Sometimes, the good ending is also the true ending. Like in TellTale's "The Walking Dead" season 2. With all thinga considered, the best and most reasonable choice Clementine could do at the end of season 2 was taking AJ to Wellington. That's the ending that can allow us to skip season 3 all together. The alone ending could help us skip it too, but it's can t be true, because 11 years old girls are not supposed to raise a baby alone. It takes growing up a bit in a settlement before keeping going forward for that.
My poor brain. I don't get it. So confusing. Is it possible that the character james has dissociative personality disorder and the visions along the game were merely his illusion? Childhood traumatic expreriences with his sister caused him to be lunatic? I assume he also suffers schizo like the painter from layers of fear 1. And as an actor he tried his best to hide his mental illness. Please correct me bloober my head is jumbled trying to understand your storyline. Ouch!
For me the game just kinda came together in my last hour of playing it and I understood almost all of it. I do feel like it was really confusing at times and the games messages are easy to miss. I think it has to do with your state of mind at the time of playing. Clever game though I enjoyed it and it made me think a lot.
Hi @Shirrako, I'm making a video for LOF2 detail explaining. But I lost the Forever ending after reinstalled window. May I borrow the Forever ending from your video ? That would be really great. Many thanks!
SAME. Just some really deep voice saying stuff like 'Fire is fire, or is it not? Who are we, for we are not? The truth is power, but power is flame ...' etc etc. I was - like - 'Come on man, make some sense'...
ok so i got the rat queen ending and the woman, but one thing that baffles me is why does it cut to the chest at the end and just cut out? anyone have any ideas as to what is supposed to be in there? the mannequin heads was my only guess
So who is this Woldemort lady? I've heard there is a secret Cthulhu plot linked to the first game. I finished both games and I'm so confused. I respect directors vision, but I don't think this should be so deep and complicated. I don't feel connected to this story, like this formless ending character, even though I got the Lilly ending which is super weird, because the game tells you from the very start that you are the guy actor.
Ending Miau Aug gak ada penampakan karakter utama nya . Setelah di usir dengan kepala tengkorak berbaju hitam dan bersuara perempuan setelah itu selesai . Apakah itu Bad Ending kah ??
games like this are not made for me. there so much talking through visual and interpretations of whats shown in such twisted ways, that 75% of that gets lost on me and the need to replay a horror game, that loses so much foundation if you know what will happen and thus has no effect anymore, isnt a good choice in my eyes, the genre doenst lend to that
I've never been more confused by a game before this one. I don't see how it connects to the first game in any way. I hate to say it, but honestly, it's really disappointing.
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I don't see the actor/actress endings as good or bad, just who you decided to become. How I sort of imagine what happened was Lily died in the fire on the boat, and James tried to bring her back through supernatural means (which they implied it). She did but not exactly how he thought. If you guys have seen the movie The Prodigy, I feel like its something similar. James AND Lily are sharing one body (James') and are sort of flip flopping between the two. So the Director is trying to get them to choose just ONE singular mind (he in particular wants James, maybe because he's easier to control or something?). James always seemed to be a little envious of Lily's courage, so maybe with disobeying the Director he wanted to be her (which results in Lily taking over the body for good). The Rat Queen sending them back to the beginning is because they can't decide who to truly be, the boy or the girl, which mind to truly take over the body.
That's just how I interrpreted it, since it seems to really be up to us how to do it. Its not like the first LOF where its easier to understand what the story was.
The director is james consciousness and we have to decide whether to left lily behind and move on or let lily live once again by let her taking control of james body
Nice summary and I agree with you, I also interpreted it that way
I honestly don't care which is good or bad, the disobey and obey ending speeches both give me chills no matter how many times I hear them and that violin music at the end ^_^ so pretty
What ist going on in this game?
Confusion isnt even the Word to discribe this
It doesn't help that a lot of the context has been cut out like a clumsy butcher and a bunch of symbolism is lost. The chest is representative of the abuse the siblings suffered at the hands of their father, as we learn in flashbacks. The character you play is an actor/actress. Whether you are the bother or the sister depends on choices you make in play, with a good chance that the sibling you don't end up being died in childhood. The first ending I don't know exactly, but a big theme of the game is an actor building themself into the character they play, so it's probably related to your actions not leaning towards either sibling, an incomplete character, a "thing that shouldn't be."
I saw bizarre references to Eraserhead (1977), The Shining (1980), Twin Peaks (1990), Se7en (1995), etc. I think the best way to describe it as a Surrealistic.
@@Visigothicwarrior Dont forget the Hitchcock's Psyco as well ! The curtain and the stabbing with violin :)
@@Visigothicwarrior Eraserhead. Man, what a messed up movie. Disturbing. You've inspired me to watch twin peaks as I've never seen it! Thanks.
@@adamm2571 1st season is a must. "Fire Walk with Me" 2nd season of Twin Peaks is alright. I haven´t seen the 3rd season. Might see it as well.
As far as i've understood, the good ending is the one with the female actress, because you need to disobey all the Directors orders in the four possible choices. The bad one is with the male actor, because you need to obey the Director in all four choices, and the true/neutral ending is because you have mixed obeyed and disobeyed in the four choices.
u sure the gender isnt determined by who you shoot in the first choice?
Ryan Pruner in the first choice, the Director tells you to “shoot The right one” As in the woman on the right. So it depends on your obediance of all his instructions
@@Chh166
there is a woman and a man. like choosing your gender
Ryan Pruner i am aware... your point is?
I think you have a worse ending by disobeying. If you disobey you basicly can't move on and portray your dead sister on stage. If you obey you also have a bad ending, because even in moving on, you burn yourself out as stated (but not shown in the ending) multiple times by the director in your playtrough. He wants you to shine for once, brightly, but short. To not be nothing for your whole life (both endings destroy the formless figurine). In both endings the character you play isn't at peace with his decision though, and all his selftorment and indecision opens up again symbolized as the opening box. Above the box is the Shizo filmposter additionally confirming that. In both endings you are the same person shown subtle by the wart "both" persons have on the right side of their lip (left in the mirror).
You can actually draw a lot more story from the game, one that i find very interesting and unique. The only problem is that it has to much clutter of effects and stuff thrown around, so even people that could decipher complicated symbolism get thrown off, because some entire scenes arent even important. If you really look for it though there is some genius storytelling to be found.
When male version looks at movie posters and that music reminds me of rapture
I think the bit where lily dies was not what actually happened. It was what happened in the script but not in real life. In real life you(the player) choose who died and who survived(if you don't, you just keep doing it) because you can't be both. Whoever you are, you see the events from their point of view. If lily survived and james died, she thinks that if james lived he should die in order for them to be together(not because he's weak but because she always had a dramatic and creative imagination). If james survived he accepts his past although it doesn't make his character any stronger.
Dont follow the clickbaiting title. None of the endings are good, bad or true, the whole point of the game is that you dont know wich one is true, and that none of them are bad.
shut the fuck up weeb
Shut the fuck up weeb
@@r.wijaya2907 no you
Agree with you. Making us confusing.
THE NO U'S HAVE POWWER
4:18 i love the soundtrack on this one 🆘
nice sound
What thats music name ?
@@masbansuban5441 ting ting ting tinh
@@masbansuban5441 Light is calling
Light is calling
The neutral ending implies that everything up to this point was real, it wasn't in the player characters head but rather their really insane on board a ghost ship...
James is trapped in a cycle by a demon. He made a bargain to bring back his sister, and got snared.
I think that "neutral ending" is just that the "character" is not finish yet. Maybe?
Obviously the first is a bad ending there’s no explanation needed the actor simply has lost themself and has not been true to the character themself or the performance
Which is good, bad, and true?
None of them is good ,bad or true, you are just playing 3 different roles. And all applause at the end.
The good ending is the one with the male actor, the bad ending is the one with the one with the evil lady, the true ending is the one with the female actor
@@sydneywaldron3609 Sometimes, the good ending is also the true ending. Like in TellTale's "The Walking Dead" season 2. With all thinga considered, the best and most reasonable choice Clementine could do at the end of season 2 was taking AJ to Wellington. That's the ending that can allow us to skip season 3 all together. The alone ending could help us skip it too, but it's can t be true, because 11 years old girls are not supposed to raise a baby alone. It takes growing up a bit in a settlement before keeping going forward for that.
@@dordonake You do got a good point, I just had a theory that the main character was the female character
Bad ending looks like Volfermort or whatever.. And Who else is watching this after owning it on Epic Games cos it's free
got it on epic for free lol but i bought the first and still prefer the first
I had a different ending! I had to choose which one to shoot, I choose the man and thats it! Credits!
That's actually what follows the first one here, she sends you back to when you had to shoot a mannequin. It's just cut out in this video
My poor brain. I don't get it. So confusing. Is it possible that the character james has dissociative personality disorder and the visions along the game were merely his illusion? Childhood traumatic expreriences with his sister caused him to be lunatic? I assume he also suffers schizo like the painter from layers of fear 1. And as an actor he tried his best to hide his mental illness. Please correct me bloober my head is jumbled trying to understand your storyline. Ouch!
Yes mental disorders make people retarded lunatics, scum of the earth school shooting child raping serial killers
@@momijithelesbianleftie6578 Oh fuck off, it's quite clear they didn't mean anything like that.
Yg kesini karna miawaug main game ini like dibawah
#GAKNGEMISLIKE
Miawaug dpt bad ending ya?
Wkwk ketahuan karna miawaug tapi kykny iy miawaug dpt bad ending @muhamad faisal
#Milovers
Kalo minta like itu namanya NGEMIS LIKE haduh , tolong otaknya dipakai -_-
@@pocopopocoro9576 itu maksudny like tapi ga bermaksud ngemis..
@@urusaidesu6173 Iya tuh bener
Look. Cut the bs. I got voldermort. Can I expect a lightening bolt scare on my forehead or was it a horrible ending?! Thanks in advance lol.
This is the same guy who enjoys killing and torturing ppl in red dead redemption😂
Its pattern is as similar as previous series. I guess that the unknown bold man is loop ending , while Lily is true ending.
For me the game just kinda came together in my last hour of playing it and I understood almost all of it. I do feel like it was really confusing at times and the games messages are easy to miss. I think it has to do with your state of mind at the time of playing. Clever game though I enjoyed it and it made me think a lot.
not just state of mind, but how you as a person interpret things and if you get the visual language, that the game tries to speak in.
Can someone explain to me why I didn’t get the trophy “Witness all three endings” even though I saw all of them
I'm going to guess that they may come out with a dlc like the last layers of fear.
I want to know who that bald lady is. didn't she also appeared in a picture in the very first game?
Hi @Shirrako,
I'm making a video for LOF2 detail explaining. But I lost the Forever ending after reinstalled window.
May I borrow the Forever ending from your video ? That would be really great.
Many thanks!
Làm đi anh! Em ủng hộ!
@ mình làm xong lâu roài bạn ^^
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Nà
Anyone know the name of the violin song playing at 4:00 ?
I want to know too.
Yess, light is calling
the most complex character creator i iever played, i think the rest of the game didn't download tho
The ending music is so good... whats is name ?
Light is calling
Dark impetus 🙂
Nice gameplay
walking sim
Is there a reason why subtitles aren't enabled?
Because they are annoying?
Cane you tell me where good, bad, and true ending?
Bad is the first ending
Good is James as actor
True is Lily
I got the first ending. I didn't know what the fuck was going on throughout the entire game!
SAME. Just some really deep voice saying stuff like 'Fire is fire, or is it not? Who are we, for we are not? The truth is power, but power is flame ...' etc etc. I was - like - 'Come on man, make some sense'...
yes wtf it was so hard to follow
That was lightning speed u got this out jeez lol nice one though
subtitle : just as iPhone
SO this lady is from 1st games painting as well. This game was pretty confusing but I loved it. Anyone figured out what was the shooting about?
the mysterious woman ending sucks. I got that one, no audiences, no claps
That is the rarest ending to get!
This is the purgatory ending.
The actor needs to relive he's/her's trauma and past until they learn to get over it.
How to end the game on the brother
4:15
7:34
You can see an orange skull in the mirror
Damn ure fast man
ok so i got the rat queen ending and the woman, but one thing that baffles me is why does it cut to the chest at the end and just cut out? anyone have any ideas as to what is supposed to be in there? the mannequin heads was my only guess
No idea. From what I heard some think its symbolism. Part of your past will always stay within you and never leave no matter how hard you try
@@ZyroShadowPony that makes sense, thanks
Is aqua the va for the female?
So who is this Woldemort lady? I've heard there is a secret Cthulhu plot linked to the first game. I finished both games and I'm so confused. I respect directors vision, but I don't think this should be so deep and complicated. I don't feel connected to this story, like this formless ending character, even though I got the Lilly ending which is super weird, because the game tells you from the very start that you are the guy actor.
Ending Miau Aug gak ada penampakan karakter utama nya . Setelah di usir dengan kepala tengkorak berbaju hitam dan bersuara perempuan setelah itu selesai . Apakah itu Bad Ending kah ??
Mungkin yg neutral ending? Soalnya g tau itu cowo atau cewe :v
Iya bad ending kyknya soalny kak regi ga ada ending karakter dan inti game ini "buat karakter" dan kak regi ga dapat, sayang sekali..
Secret keknya
Bukan itu true endingnya
@@glessyacladora1452 tau dari mana true ending?
Which is good and which is bad ending?
Ok but which is which? And is there a ‘true ending’?
Which one is which?
games like this are not made for me. there so much talking through visual and interpretations of whats shown in such twisted ways, that 75% of that gets lost on me and the need to replay a horror game, that loses so much foundation if you know what will happen and thus has no effect anymore, isnt a good choice in my eyes, the genre doenst lend to that
what's in the case?
why do i have feelng this game is similar to agony ?
What's in the box? What's in the boooox??? WHAT'S IN THE BOOOOX????
The box represents their past, memories and trauma.
wtf i didn't have any of these endings xddd
Have you actually finished the game?
Yes but I don't remeber what ending I had
How do I watch all the ends please
The most incoherent game I played so far.
It may seem that way when it tries to be so ambiguous until the end.
What’s inside the chest though?
Memories, and a stolen flame
WoAh Is ThIs WhAt It'S lIkE tO bE fIrSt?????
I've never been more confused by a game before this one. I don't see how it connects to the first game in any way. I hate to say it, but honestly, it's really disappointing.
oo jadi kak regi miawaug dapetnya bad end
Bukan bad ending tapi truth
Adanya obey disobey sama netral
@Ethan Johnson sory, i dont speak to you.
Don't click read more
You fall for it
this game horse peenis
@miawaug
wat
Have you played the game or read about it?
bro
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Bro
A very poor game i must say i was very disappointed
You just don't understood the story^^
@@sukai7 the story was fine the actual game play was kinda boring tho
I have a question though.
I think there's no good ending in this game