“You can look yourself in the mirror and know that you were, indeed, beat….by a real man.” How to insult the top two faces of the company in one line. Austin is a legend.
I love how the New York crowd booed Shawn Michaels and cheered Sid on this show. They popped when Sid came out. WHO'S THE MAN!!!! Fist bumping every fan on the way down to the ring. Another version of Taker here too! The (Bat) Pirate Taker!!!
Heels had been cheered before and at the Garden, I mean Hulk Hogan was Top babyface and worked Heel most of his WWF run lol. But never was a Heel that over overwhelmingly like SID was on this night. No matter what he did, cheers were louder than ever when Sid fucked Jose Lethario up and hit him & Shawn with the camera.
@@rustykuntz94 I loved every minute of it, especially when he hit Jose with the camera and they popped. I appreciate Shawn Michaels work but I can't stand him lol.
@@codycampbell6257 Same here Cody. Respect the mans work and he’s an all timer for sure but really was a POS as a person. Especially how he was so disrespectful to Vader in Summer Slam 96 showing him up in the ring and calling him names. He’s lucky he was Vince’s golden boy at that time or not only Vader but probably a good amount of that locker room would have kicked his ass for that display. (I’m thinking Taker for sure)
As a native New Yorker, I can say as someone that was at wrestlemania 10 and 20 Michaels was not accepted by that crowd. Against razor and in the triple threat with Benoit and HHH, shawn was not the popular choice in those instances
@@danielescalera6638 I wondered also was it more the NY crowds hate towards Shawn more than a loving of SID? Or in both WWF & WCW by 96 times were changing and fans were getting tired of having the white meat traditional babyfaces pushed as the guys to root for. Especially for someone like Michaels who was such a arrogant and obnoxious Heel for so many years prior to 96.
Conrad missed the point about what upset Vince. It wasnt about ring rust, it was the line JR used that as good as Bret had been, he didnt think that either Shawn or Sid "in this ring, on this night, could have beaten Bret Hart" which prompted Vince to say "I totally disagree with that". Something upset Vince about THAT line. Maybe he didn't the picture painted that a guy just coming back was that much better than the two guys he had going on last. Maybe he didn't want the idea pushed that the WWF champ wasnt clearly the best until he loses it. Or maybe it was just because it was Shawn. Draw your own conclusion.
That vinetteAustin cut on Bret for this match is by far the greatest promo of all time. Shadowed by the "echoed overtone" with the glass breaking at the end. Pure fucking GOLD
Interesting enough. This was the first Wrestling VHS tape I rented from a Video store. It was a few years removed. At this point I had no idea Rocky Mavia was The Rock until I saw this show. As i was still new to watching wrestling.
By literally 0 metrics. Drawing? Not top 20 In-ring? Top 5 Promo? Not top 50 Charisma? Not top 30 Accolades? Not top 10 Kurt Angle is literally just a better Bret, with the amateur pedigree to back it up.
I was a huge fan of Sid !! He was a super sized monster ! He seemed like a natural Heel just the look of his face said “badass” and no “nice guy” look to him. Such a Beast tho I hated to see his career end up shortened by injury.
That Austin/Bret match didn’t have the heat and drama of the Mania match but as a wrestling, JCP-style match, it was flawless - easily as good as Bret/Perfect at Summerslam 91 IMO. This was probably Austin’s last great technical performance before his series with Benoit 5 years later and at this point, he wasn’t covering up that he was an excellent technical wrestler - maybe the best in WWE after Bret and Owen
I didn't even know that match existed until 2017. I have almost all of Austin's DVD collections and found out that year that it's in his "Legacy of Stone Cold Steve Austin" DVD. And I still haven't seen it. Doesn't interest me. No build up, no reason to fight, they just throw Austin at Bret for no reason. Reminds me of AEW. Miracle the fued caught fire.
@@lalomontoyajr.9282 It's two of the best workers in WWE going at it and Bret's big comeback match - he requested to work with Austin. No, there's no real buildup, just a personality clash but sometimes that's all that's needed.
I was only 5 at the time and watched it on ppv here in Ireland... It was my first experience of a heel getting a babyface reaction and it opened my eyes to the fucking aura that madison square garden possessed! You guys were rabid, thank you!
Speak for yourself Conrad, I like the long hall of fame. I like to hear everything the inductees have to say and all the people they want to thank. It’s sad now though how many guys have passed these last 15 years since they started televising it. 2006-2007 were the two best imo.
I wonder how the boys felt about Rocky Maivia and Lafon and Furnas being put over on a major PPV before really doing anything in the company. Anyway I liked this show quite a bit. Got some surprise appearances from Roberts and Snuka and the debut of Flash Funk!
Well they did (sort of) At the April PPV, they had their 3rd one on one PPV match, which was at In Your House: Revenge of The Taker. They would face off one last time at the July PPV, which was a 10 man tag match at In Your House: Canadian Stampede.
@@michaelgcuk had Bret stayed with the company, they would’ve had more matches. Bret would’ve put the title on Austin as well. I think In an interview, Bret wanted to put the title on Austin instead of Shawn Michael’s at the survivor series. Talk about a “what if”
Candido wasn't over and basically a lower mid carder. Yeah he was a great wrestler, but to the casual or average fan he didn't mean much and he was too small. Back in 95 being that small was a detriment.
@@justinmartin1831 I never watched wrestling and was like aww man this Bret Hart guy, this Shawn Michaels guy, ya they’re doing backflips and throwing themselves out of the ring and selling like Ricky Morton but man if only they were 6’7 with steroid bodies and tripped over their own baby Bambi legs, then and only then would they really be believable. Give me BRAKKUS!!! Now that’s a worker.
There goes Conrad blowing Shawn again. Has 2nd best match on the card, crowd is cheering Sid. There's Conrad "o Shawn best in this era". What a load of nonsense lol. Then he talks about how people are babies about dropping the belt (exact same things Shawn did previously with Shane Douglas).
Save with conrad, can you help me keep my living in her house? She was making payments until she became disabled, my step dad stopped her from making payments on the Reverse mortgage
The crowd interaction when Sid won the title says it all. Look at all of the people Sid interacted with when he won and the crowds reaction in general. MSG on this night belonged to Sid. No question about it.
I'm calling bullshit Prichard. I normally agree with Bruce but saying Vader couldn't get the same pop as Sid is crazy. The fans were more anti Shawn then they were pro Sid. Personally I was so sick of Michaels by that time.
Vader had better reactions in 1997 when he was on a losing streak but they were never as big as Sid's reactions in 1996. Vader's best work was as a monster heel - not as a baby face. Go back to Sid's first WWF run. His crowd reactions there were louder than Vader's babyface reactions in 1997. Sid was over with the WWF crowd. Vader was not. Prichard is correct. Even with the right push, Vader wasn't going to get Sid's reactions in 1996 or 1997.
That Austin promo on Bret is pure classic.
"I dont dance son"
“The boy toy kicked your ass back to Canada”
Which one??? they're all legendary..... My favorite" ever since you got back you ain't done nothing but cry".. ...
“You can look yourself in the mirror and know that you were, indeed, beat….by a real man.”
How to insult the top two faces of the company in one line. Austin is a legend.
I love how the New York crowd booed Shawn Michaels and cheered Sid on this show. They popped when Sid came out. WHO'S THE MAN!!!! Fist bumping every fan on the way down to the ring. Another version of Taker here too! The (Bat) Pirate Taker!!!
Heels had been cheered before and at the Garden, I mean Hulk Hogan was Top babyface and worked Heel most of his WWF run lol.
But never was a Heel that over overwhelmingly like SID was on this night. No matter what he did, cheers were louder than ever when Sid fucked Jose Lethario up and hit him & Shawn with the camera.
@@rustykuntz94 I loved every minute of it, especially when he hit Jose with the camera and they popped. I appreciate Shawn Michaels work but I can't stand him lol.
@@codycampbell6257 Same here Cody. Respect the mans work and he’s an all timer for sure but really was a POS as a person. Especially how he was so disrespectful to Vader in Summer Slam 96 showing him up in the ring and calling him names. He’s lucky he was Vince’s golden boy at that time or not only Vader but probably a good amount of that locker room would have kicked his ass for that display. (I’m thinking Taker for sure)
As a native New Yorker, I can say as someone that was at wrestlemania 10 and 20 Michaels was not accepted by that crowd. Against razor and in the triple threat with Benoit and HHH, shawn was not the popular choice in those instances
@@danielescalera6638 I wondered also was it more the NY crowds hate towards Shawn more than a loving of SID? Or in both WWF & WCW by 96 times were changing and fans were getting tired of having the white meat traditional babyfaces pushed as the guys to root for. Especially for someone like Michaels who was such a arrogant and obnoxious Heel for so many years prior to 96.
I love these older ppvs rather then the newer stuff. Just more entertaining
Sids entrance from this was the best.
Flash Funk was always my favourite member of the legendary Funk family.
Terry
Hoss
Jimmy Jack
And Flash!! 🤘
flash was the one with the Halloween mask right?
Conrad missed the point about what upset Vince. It wasnt about ring rust, it was the line JR used that as good as Bret had been, he didnt think that either Shawn or Sid "in this ring, on this night, could have beaten Bret Hart" which prompted Vince to say "I totally disagree with that". Something upset Vince about THAT line. Maybe he didn't the picture painted that a guy just coming back was that much better than the two guys he had going on last. Maybe he didn't want the idea pushed that the WWF champ wasnt clearly the best until he loses it. Or maybe it was just because it was Shawn. Draw your own conclusion.
56:35 when ppv rundown begins
That vinetteAustin cut on Bret for this match is by far the greatest promo of all time. Shadowed by the "echoed overtone" with the glass breaking at the end. Pure fucking GOLD
96-98 was Austin’s best mic work
Psycho Sid was f'n awesome
WHOS THE MAN?!
Boiler room brawl, buried alive & hell in a cell...Taker & Foley were each other's greatest rivals imo
The start of the actual show review 56:34
Thank you!
Thanks, I'm glad I didnt sit through 56 for nothing, lol.
Interesting enough. This was the first Wrestling VHS tape I rented from a Video store. It was a few years removed. At this point I had no idea Rocky Mavia was The Rock until I saw this show. As i was still new to watching wrestling.
That vhs tape is worth more than gold now.
@@Rschr101 I remember the original cover picture of Steve Austin. Was his Ringmaster gimmick. Totally unrecognizable with hair & no goatee.
Bret is simply the WWF/E's GOAT.
Eh I would still say HBK was the better performer despite being a dick back then
@@joetamburello6292 I mean it's 1A and 1B when discussing those two. But I prefer Bret's work. More realistic.
Agree to disagree
Bret is one of the best when it comes to the actual wrestling side of things I like the fact that he was a technical wrestler before an entertainer
By literally 0 metrics.
Drawing? Not top 20
In-ring? Top 5
Promo? Not top 50
Charisma? Not top 30
Accolades? Not top 10
Kurt Angle is literally just a better Bret, with the amateur pedigree to back it up.
I was a huge fan of Sid !! He was a super sized monster ! He seemed like a natural Heel just the look of his face said “badass” and no “nice guy” look to him. Such a Beast tho I hated to see his career end up shortened by injury.
I remember watching this show on scramble vision I just came home from a Seattle supersonics game that night
"I don't dance son"....Talk about killing two birds with one stone 😂😂😂
That Austin/Bret match didn’t have the heat and drama of the Mania match but as a wrestling, JCP-style match, it was flawless - easily as good as Bret/Perfect at Summerslam 91 IMO. This was probably Austin’s last great technical performance before his series with Benoit 5 years later and at this point, he wasn’t covering up that he was an excellent technical wrestler - maybe the best in WWE after Bret and Owen
I didn't even know that match existed until 2017. I have almost all of Austin's DVD collections and found out that year that it's in his "Legacy of Stone Cold Steve Austin" DVD. And I still haven't seen it. Doesn't interest me. No build up, no reason to fight, they just throw Austin at Bret for no reason. Reminds me of AEW. Miracle the fued caught fire.
@@lalomontoyajr.9282 It's two of the best workers in WWE going at it and Bret's big comeback match - he requested to work with Austin. No, there's no real buildup, just a personality clash but sometimes that's all that's needed.
@@nbaldwin45 the build up was Austin challenging Bret to come out of retirement late summer and talking trash in the fall.
Honestly I agree with the guy below me. I watch all the old PPVs the presentation is legendary
Yeeees great pay per view!
Would you ever take an in-depth look into SummerSlam 90. That was my first supercard and will always have a special place in my heart.
Episode #229 - Your welcome 🍻
I was there! 'twas an epic show! The crowd was so wild I could barely see the finish of the mainy but I sure felt the moment!
I was only 5 at the time and watched it on ppv here in Ireland... It was my first experience of a heel getting a babyface reaction and it opened my eyes to the fucking aura that madison square garden possessed! You guys were rabid, thank you!
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Speak for yourself Conrad, I like the long hall of fame. I like to hear everything the inductees have to say and all the people they want to thank. It’s sad now though how many guys have passed these last 15 years since they started televising it. 2006-2007 were the two best imo.
I agree I liked when the Hall of Fame was like that, hearing all the stories was great. The Hall of Fame has really fell off these past few years.
I second the both of your comments
Longer the better, they all deserve time to tell their story.
Jon moxley claimed squashing cm punk was rocky 3 but in realty it wasn't even close now sid vs HBK was freaking rocky 3 great stuff pal
Sid… man what a monster… “I cannot be held responsible for what I am about to do!!!”
I enjoyed the VhS as a kid for sure
Your so old 🧓 now
Glad Conrad is giving Cornette his due
This show is good shit pal.
An older friend mentioned hogan era being the beginning of "entertainment" side of wrestling.
I wonder how the boys felt about Rocky Maivia and Lafon and Furnas being put over on a major PPV before really doing anything in the company. Anyway I liked this show quite a bit. Got some surprise appearances from Roberts and Snuka and the debut of Flash Funk!
Austin and Bret should've wrestled at 2 ppvs after WrestleMania 13.
Well they did (sort of) At the April PPV, they had their 3rd one on one PPV match, which was at In Your House: Revenge of The Taker. They would face off one last time at the July PPV, which was a 10 man tag match at In Your House: Canadian Stampede.
@@michaelgcuk had Bret stayed with the company, they would’ve had more matches. Bret would’ve put the title on Austin as well. I think In an interview, Bret wanted to put the title on Austin instead of Shawn Michael’s at the survivor series. Talk about a “what if”
Its always fun to hear "the audience didn't care" while currently roman reigns has been champion for 3 years
Tribal has fallen
Excellent ppv.
95 thru 2000 was the heyday of ppvs
I was there!
So whatever happened to ricky mivia is he still a wrestler??
Bret and Austin 1&2 1st and 2nd best matches ever in my book
I met Mark Henry with his broken foot . At Ossining New York cable vision. He out of Survivor series 96 . The Monday before this event
"But no milk' shake should be a t shirt
It be cool to hear about Hulk Hogan's last run in wwe beating Triple H for the world title
Can nobody else hear that weird tapping / popping on the audio? It’s making it impossible for me to listen ffs
I hear it mainly in the car but I can hear it alot on my stereo system at home.
I checked other source for the podcast. Somehow its youtube messing it up. Try it on spotify or whatever.
Yeah! It's terrible and it's all over the STW podcasts on TH-cam.
@@DoktahDoktah yep fine on Spotify thanks mate
Flash funk is terry’s stepbrother from the southside of funkville
Midnight Special
Chris Candido with Sunny as a heat magnet would of been a great IC Champ in 96
Vs. Wild Man with Sable would of been a good feud in 96.
@@Sluggen7n7 sunny would’ve turned that into a shoot.
Candido wasn't over and basically a lower mid carder. Yeah he was a great wrestler, but to the casual or average fan he didn't mean much and he was too small. Back in 95 being that small was a detriment.
@@justinmartin1831 I never watched wrestling and was like aww man this Bret Hart guy, this Shawn Michaels guy, ya they’re doing backflips and throwing themselves out of the ring and selling like Ricky Morton but man if only they were 6’7 with steroid bodies and tripped over their own baby Bambi legs, then and only then would they really be believable. Give me BRAKKUS!!! Now that’s a worker.
If they had a cruiserweight division in that era he would've been a solid part of it IMO
The amount of audio popping is ridiculous without how easy it is to fix. It makes this unlistenable.
I bet Bruce studies McMahon family history like scholars study the Bible and other religious text
Lol omg I thought the same exact thing, bruce talks of McMahon family tidbits like great tales from ancient antiquity lol
2 Cold Scorpio becoming a Funk brother wouldve been AWESOME
I was there Shawn Michaels had to leave MSG we made him leave
Man, I miss when Conrad had balls
Bruce dont miss nxt wk u must explain lita treatment
Awesome I won't have to sit through an hour of Conrad tossing Tony Khans salad
Lmao
Good lord the audio is terrible in this episode, constantly popping and cracking.
How long until we rip apart Mega Mark Meltzer????
People fist pumped Did because nobody wanted Sean as a face. Vince didn't get it.
There goes Conrad blowing Shawn again. Has 2nd best match on the card, crowd is cheering Sid. There's Conrad "o Shawn best in this era". What a load of nonsense lol. Then he talks about how people are babies about dropping the belt (exact same things Shawn did previously with Shane Douglas).
1:20:00 Best promo
Save with conrad, can you help me keep my living in her house?
She was making payments until she became disabled, my step dad stopped her from making payments on the Reverse mortgage
Shawn Michaels kicked Ur ass back to Canada 🤣🤣🤣by a boy toy a sexy boy so fucking funny
Love u Bret but that was so funny
#brethartforlife
They turned on Sid? Nobody cared about Michaels/Lothario Angle ...It was a total Sid night...
The crowd interaction when Sid won the title says it all. Look at all of the people Sid interacted with when he won and the crowds reaction in general. MSG on this night belonged to Sid. No question about it.
Austin man.... sorry Rock fans, but Austin is different gravy
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I'm calling bullshit Prichard. I normally agree with Bruce but saying Vader couldn't get the same pop as Sid is crazy. The fans were more anti Shawn then they were pro Sid. Personally I was so sick of Michaels by that time.
Vader had better reactions in 1997 when he was on a losing streak but they were never as big as Sid's reactions in 1996. Vader's best work was as a monster heel - not as a baby face. Go back to Sid's first WWF run. His crowd reactions there were louder than Vader's babyface reactions in 1997. Sid was over with the WWF crowd. Vader was not. Prichard is correct. Even with the right push, Vader wasn't going to get Sid's reactions in 1996 or 1997.
Thank you for your opinion Mrs Vaders mom
Is this comment section a rib?
McMahon released Conrad so he can do that
New York crowds are lame bro.
How dare you